The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 10/28/2019

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

Even after a big win over the Chiefs, Colin is concerned about the Packers moving forward and explains why. He thinks Browns fans are about to get really loud and wants them to remember how bad they are at the halfway point of the season. He admits where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Plus, Super Bowl Champion QB Trent Dilfer talks about the Bears needing to trade for a QB right now and why one NFL team has the next Tony Romo. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Halloween is one of it might be my it's inappropriate to say Halloween is my favorite holiday but it kind of is my favorite holiday Fourth of July is mine. You can blow stuff up and drink beer. I love Fourth of July. That's great. It's a party.

Yep. And so is where I live. Very little responsibility. It is great to have you in again. One hour from now, Colin right, calling wrong. Let me start with this. Aaron Rogers was great last night. Okay, I know that.

Yeah, yippee. I drive into work this morning. Oh, Aaron Rogers, you see that play. I've seen it. He's great. I'm not disputing that. And I do like what Green Bay is doing with running backs. The story last night is Matt Moore.

Why couldn't Green Bay stop him? This was not supposed to be a shootout. This was going to be Mahalms-Aren Rogers game of the year. Matt Moore, who hadn't started in two years, was playing high school football last year. After kind of a rocky start, he got in a groove. Matt Moore High School football coach a year ago. He had three practices with the Chief's first team offense. he was over 50% on third down.

He threw for as many yards as Aaron Rogers, 6.6 yards a pass. This was not supposed to happen. I've seen San Francisco New Orleans in New England against quarterbacks without experience. I saw San Francisco this weekend against a young quarterback. It was a horror movie fitting on Halloween week. I've seen New England against young or quarterbacks who aren't very good. Orleans. Kyler Murray couldn't move the chains.

Matt Moore should not have been able to do that. New Orleans, New England, and San Francisco have defenses that constantly make quarterbacks uncomfortable. Matt Moore was completely comfortable. Green Bay does not have a great defense. They have a couple of really, really good defensive playmakers. The Smith brothers at linebacker are playmakers. And deserve all the credit in the world, and I love the acquisitions.

but we got a gap here between the Niners, the Patriots, the Saints. Then there's the Packers. Let's just know, Matt Moore against San Francisco off three practices would have been, you know, suffocated. Against New England, multiple picks. Against the Saints, couldn't move the chains. He moved the ball up and down the field. After a little bit of a rocky start, you know, you'd think that having coach high school football last year, you'd have a little rocky start. So now I've seen with Green Bay, I've seen Philadelphia in Lambo,

run it down their throat. Oakland get 430 yards against him. Dallas and Dak, mostly second half, but over 500 yards. And I watched Matt Moore up and down the field. So, yes, Aaron's great, but that's not moving the conversation. We know Aaron's great. We know he can make great throws. That doesn't win you Super Bowls.

You know, the great throw in the NFL is like the hole and one in a golf tournament. If you don't enter putts, keep the ball in the fairway, you lose the tournament. But everybody shows the hole in one on Friday. Okay. We know Aaron's ridiculous. We know Aaron's talented. And it does appear that Matt LaFleur, at least emotionally, schematically, is right on point with Aaron. They finally use the running backs.

Like, it's a real offense now. It's multiple. It's fast. It's clever. It's quick. You have to defend the perimeter. And they're doing that. Devante Adams.

I'm in no way knocking Aaron Rogers for that. But when I watched Green Bay last night, that defense, Oakland up and down the field, Matt Moore up and down the field, Philadelphia, takes over. That's my takeaway on that thing. And by the way, the other teams, this is a defense that's become turnover dependent. They didn't get turnovers against Philadelphia in that second half. They couldn't get the ball back for Aaron Rogers. Detroit, they didn't get turnovers. Should have lost that football game. And the teams above you in the Annabelle Green Bay, San Francisco, great coach, great defense. New England, great coach, great quarterback, great defense. Saints, great coach, great defense, great quarterback. So the three teams in the league that have separated to me,

really separated from everybody else. Green Bay, I can't put in that group. You can't have Matt Moore out of high school doing that stuff. Can't have it. Over 50% on third down? And that's not a great Kansas City O-line. That's not. That's not the Colts Young O-line.

That's not Dallas's O-line. All right, let's shift to this. America, get ready. Get ready. It's going to be deja vu all over again. Cleveland is 2 and 5 and is about to get really obnoxious. So I want to remind everybody that we predicted they would struggle early

and then as their schedule loosened up, because Cleveland's got talent, they would beat a bunch of terrible teams. It just so happens the team Cincinnati, Miami are more terrible than I thought, and the Steelers who they play twice over the next two months have a backup quarterback. But I want to remind you, they lost badly to Kyle Shanahan, badly to Bill Balliach, butchered it against Pete Carroll and Sean McVey. And off a by, judge a coach off a buy.

Off a by, Freddie Kitchens, 13 penalties, first three snaps, three turnovers, three for 12 on third down, not even sure what they were doing on fourth and 11 when they took a penalty against the really well-coached teams. They embarrass themselves. Dumb penalties, dumb mistakes. Don't ask me what Baker Mayfield's butt fumble play. was, I can't figure it out. But starting next Sunday, it's a bunch of nonsense. It's a Denver team that lost again and is selling parts. Steelers twice, backup quarterback, Miami tanking,

Cincinnati borderline tanking twice, Arizona. And by the way, I predicted. I predicted this. I said Cleveland is going to lose early and look bad, reel off a bunch of against crappy teams with average coaches and weak quarterbacks. Well, the quarterbacks now are backups. And I said they're going to get a little comeuppance. They're going to play Baltimore near the end of the year. And they're going to get crushed at home. And it's working out perfectly.

But what's going to happen in Cleveland, this is what happened last year. They were terrible. The schedule weekend, Baker comes in and Baker goes at the end of the year, against, you know, bad, bad defenses. Atlanta, Cam was hurt, Carolina, Cincinnati. atty twice, seven touchdowns, no picks. Cleveland last year comes out. They're awful. Then the schedule

lightens up. Baker throws a bunch of touchdowns against bad teams. And all of a sudden all we heard all offseason. Super Bowl. It's deja vu all over again. This is a poorly coached team that's not very smart when they faced McVeigh, when they faced

Vrable, who I think can coach, when they face Belich. yesterday. When you start looking at the team, when they face Kyle Shanahan, they were out-coached, out-played, out-smarted, out-everything. But it's going to get really soft and really weak. And like last year, they're going to finish with some Ws. And they're going to be outraged at all of us, media and you, that we don't get it.

No, we do get it. We got it last year we didn't buy into it. We got it in the last off-season. We knew they would be overhyped. and we knew they were going to struggle this year. I'll stand by my prediction. Cleveland will not make the playoffs, but they'll be in the 8-8-9-7 bubble.

They will, I mean, they're going to basically have three games against tanking teams, Cincinnati and Miami, and the Steelers on a backup quarterback, and then Kyler Murray and a Buffalo team that's well-coached but can't throw. Get ready, America. Baker Mayfield, too, his credit, admitted, we're an undisciplined mess.

I like that part. Non-discipline, guys not being focused on doing their job. It starts first and foremost with me. It's a leader. Every single down, get our guys lined up, make sure that we're set, we're paying attention. Because if we can't use Cadence, you know, we're hurting ourselves. I appreciate that.

He made a good point on Cadence. Anytime they're using Cadence, guys are jumping off sides. They're not accountable. They're sloppy. I judge coaches off a by. Lou Holtz is one of the great coaches in college football. He was great off a buy. Urban Meyer off a buy.

Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin off a buy. Andy Reid off a buy. Sean Payton off a buy. Bill Belichick off a buy. I watch Cleveland off a buy. New England short week. And don't tell me the talent was that much different. Cleveland was a mess.

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Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.

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And let me explain. Belichick loses his defensive coordinator to Miami, Brian Flores. Belichick takes over the defense, and it's statistically the greatest of all time. Sean Payton loses first ballot Hall of Famer Drew Brees. Teddy Bridgewater goes 5 and 0. Mike McCarthy leaves. Oh, oh, Matt Lefleur. What do we know?

He's been terrific with Aaron Rogers. John Harbaugh takes Lamar Jackson, fully supports him, the kid who I thought was a project over a prospect, and they're going to win this division going away. And now about Cliff Kingsbury. He got fired by his alma mater. He's done a terrific job in Arizona. Every game they should have won, they've won.

It has been the year of the coach in the NFL. But Kyle Shanahan is at the time. top of that list, not Belichick. They destroyed a completely legitimate Carolina team yesterday. They do everything well. And they're not doing it with great talent. Jimmy Garoppolo, second round, running back Matt Breda, undrafted, George Kittle, fifth round, Tevin Coleman, third round. They're missing both tackles, the Pro Bowl left tackle and the exceptional right tackle. They've had multiple injuries to their wide receivers. They had to go get Emmanuel Sanders, even he worked yesterday.

You know, I said this, and Joy was here. I said, we've all fallen in love with Sean McVey. And I said this after last year. My prediction was, before the season started, that we would go, oh, that that best coach in the NFL is in the NFC West. It just happens to be Kyle Shanahan. Whereas McVe, smart, talented, successful, like Sean McVey a lot, his offense clearly, is very dependent on a workhorse running back as far as I can tell. San Francisco is not dependent on anybody.

He moved the ball with Nate Mullins' tight end, receivers. They've lost their top running back the last two years. They lead the NFL in running percentage almost 60% of the time, even more than Baltimore. They're unbelievable. They're clever, they're slick. When George Kittle is not only open, but when a player is that open as a pro bowler, that is schematics.

I'm looking at these numbers yesterday against Carolina. This was the shock of the day for me. Third down efficiency, 50%, 6.5 yards a pass. Six and a half yards of play. Four out of five in the red zone. Total domination. This is a Carolina defense that's exceptional. This is an exceptional defensive coaching staff.

There are good receivers, dominant running back. I mean, everything. Caroline's got everything. They have a backup quarterback who looked fine the entire season. So we believe every week Belichick gives you a schematic advantage. We all believe that, right? I do. So is Kyle Shanahan. Kyle, you're watching these games yesterday. I'm five minutes in. Everything's working against Ron Rivera, a very good defensive coach. Everything is working. It is exceptional. And here's the scary thing about San Francisco. They are young. So it reminds me that Seattle team right before they won the Super Bowl. They're not just good. They're young. And like a young fighter, they get better fast.

Here's their coach. The more games you win, the more confidence guys get. Just like the more games you lose in a row, the less confidence you get. Both can be a little bit contagious to the team. And I think our guys, you know, we've won a lot of different ways, been in a lot of different types of games. And I think our guys, the more you do that, the more you can reassure yourself that you can pull out certain types of wins, the more you can have a team that does that stuff is something you can always go back on. And no matter what the circumstances are, you can find a way to get a win in.

51.7 and 0, young teams, I always call it the Mike Tyson quality. It's that pit bull quality. A young basketball team will have these unbelievable nights. But young teams tend to be uneven. what I like about San Francisco, they have all the upside of a young team. They play with a ton of emotion. When they get rolling and their confidence is going, you know, it's like, whoa, whoa, watch out. They don't even know what they don't know.

But they've also won several different ways. Last week in Washington, they won with defense. They've trailed in games. They've had to come behind. Pittsburgh. Yesterday, it was steamroll, come out of the gates, and then hold on to the lead and not get too conservative. So right now in the NFL, my eyes tell me, San Francisco.

go, maybe I'm nuts, best team in the NFL. That's what my eyes tell me. Beating different ways, winning different ways, beating different teams, and what they did against Carolina's defense, that's jaw dropping. That's like, okay, we got a new team that should be favored to get

to Miami in the Super Bowl. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. I thought this was interesting yesterday. So Bill Belichick won his 300th game. You know, baseball, I grew up baseball was like the sport, right? It was the national pastime and the numbers are massive.

You think Bill Belichick all these years, I'm shocked that's not more than 300 games. It feels like he's been winning for 20 years every year, right? But he won after the game and Tom Brady came up and said something pretty funny. 300 wins is pretty spectacular. He's, you know, best coach of all time and it's a privilege to play for him. For as many years as I have, he's taught me so much,

you know, on and off the field. It's just been a great mentor for me. me. You know, amazing to think that he coached for another place and they didn't think he was good enough. You know, and then he comes here and does a great job. Certainly hard-earned, well-deserved, and only better than 300 is 301. So we'll be back at it this week. You know, it's really interesting. When I hear everybody's excuses why they're losing, Philadelphia, we need Deshaun Jackson. We don't have a speed-wide receiver. We've got to get another cornerback here. That's your chargers. You know, our offensive lines

beat up, you know, Rams. Our offensive lines getting old. We don't have the depth at running back. I just go, stop it. Just think about New England. Just their offense. Just think about their offense. They lose their left tackle.

They lose their center. Now, those are the two most vital positions on the offensive line. Center calls audibles. Left tackle protects Tom. Lose them both. They lose a fullback. In New England's one of two teams in the league, San Francisco the other. A lot of their offense is engineered through the fullback. They lose him. Been using a linebacker at fullback recently. They lose a pro bowl kicker.

Sort of matters in a sport where every Super Bowl, you know, New England wins is decided by a field goal. They have a superstar wide receiver coming. A, B. Last an hour, get rid of him. Could have been massive conflict. They lose Josh Gordon. Another one gets hurt. They have a first round draft picket receiver. Can't get on the field. Oh, yeah, they lost Gronk, Hall of Famer. And they're 8-0, and their point differential is 60 points better than everybody. Belichick loses his defensive coordinator, has to get on the headset now and call the plays. Distraction, right?

It's the best defense they've ever had. I mean, they've had a dozen injuries, a first-round pick that's not playing, a center, a left tackle, a key fullback, a kicker, two wide receivers, and their point differential, it's not even close. Yesterday you watched them on a short week, a short week against the team in a buy and who looked disorganized. It wasn't the Brown's first three snaps of the game, but for three straight snaps, they had a turnover.

On a rainy wet day, they never do. They never have the bid mistake. I think this is as good a job as he's ever done. I think he's the smartest coach in my life, and I include Jimmy Johnson in that, the Andy reads, you know, all the great coaches. There is, everybody in this league has an excuse why they're not winning. New England's got one, two, three, four, five, six. Six excuses on offense.

Six reasons they should be a train wreck. And they are efficient on a short week yesterday. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. We do this every Monday. And I do it all year. used to do it for football season, that people liked it, where, you know, I have big, strong opinions,

but sometimes I whiff, and I have to be called out when I whiff. So Colin Wright, Colin wrong on a Monday. Here we go. Where Colin was right. I said Friday. I know this ex-girlfriend ruined my credit. My friends hated her, and she poured bleach in my plants. But I'm giving my ex-girlfriend to Philadelphia Eagles one more chance.

I know they've burned me a million times. I like this organization too much to bail. And I said on Friday, They're going to go to Buffalo, and they're going to win convincingly. Joy was here as proof, and Buffalo was on fire, and Philadelphia knocked them over. I doubted her, but you're right. Owner, GM, quarterback, coach, I give all of them an A. This team's not built to ask Carson Wentz to throw 40 times.

They're built up front. They're emotional. They're physical. When a team organizationally gets an A in the four things I care about, owner, GM coach, quarterback, I can't bail on them, and I wouldn't bail on them, and they delivered for me. Eagles, thank you for my Friday prediction. Where Colin was wrong. My Blazing Five was trash.

I was one and four, and I was lucky to be one and four. I got a backdoor cover with the Giants. I am now 59% for the year, which is about where I've been. I went with dogs, and they were all dogs with fleas. My dogs were dogs. And it was one of those Sundays where I knew 45 minutes in, I'm like, my team stink. Why do I take the Jets? That's on me.

That's not on America. I'm at 59%, which is kind of where I generally land, 58, 59% on Blazing 5. Where Colin was right? Michigan beat Notre Dame. I predicted that on Thursday. I said Harbaugh can coach. He got to a Super Bowl. I'm tired of hearing how he can't coach.

Jim Harbaugh and Michigan, yes, they can't beat Ohio State. Who's beating Ohio State except Clemson? Who's beating Ohio State? Michigan football, even with Bo Schembeckler and Lloyd Carr, won nine to nine and a half games, and we're sub-500 in bowl games. That's what Michigan is. They get one or two big wins a year like this one. They lose to your Ohio State.

They'll lose another game, and they finish nine wins, and right now, guess what? Michigan after this has six wins. They also play Maryland, Michigan State, and Indiana. And they're going to win those three games, and then lose to Ohio State, and they'll finish with nine wins. and if they win a bowl game, which I think Michigan should every other year, they'll finish with 10. Harbaugh took over a program with six wins a year. He's got him up to nine, and they're going to win nine this year. Now, I don't think they've been as good at quarterback as they should be.

He deserves heat for really, really not delivering at quarterback. But can we stop it? They're not Alabama. They're not Ohio State. They're not Oklahoma. They're not LSU. They're not USC historically. They're a very good A-minus program, and if he wins the favorite games going out, and we predicted they would beat Notre Dame, he'll finish with nine wins.

Where Colin was wrong. Remember that quarterback class in 2018 where I said, Baker, Darnold, and Rosen are ready to play now. They're 16 and 37. And I said, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are projects more than prospects. Those two are 21 and 11. What does it prove? Coaching matters in the NFL. Buffalo and Baltimore have very good coaches.

But I was thinking about it this weekend. The higher you get drafted, the worst team you get drafted too. And the real winner in this is Lamar Jackson, who went to a good owner, a good GM, a good O-line, a good coach. Now, Lamar's also very coachable. And Lamar's also, listen to his critics, develop more of a passing game. But I will say this.

The guys I thought were projects are winning football games, and the guys I thought were immediate players and prospects are all a mess. Where Colin was right? Mitch Trubisky. Let's move on. This year, six games, five TDs, three picks. I got 32 starts with Mitch Trubisky. 32 NFL starts.

All you need to do is watch how the Chicago Bears offensive staff treats him. That third in goal earlier in the game, late in the game, not willing. they just kneeled at the end of the game. They wouldn't even let him throw a roll. He's a very good athlete. They wouldn't let him roll out, throw a six-yard-out pattern to increase the kick percentage-wise to about 85-90%. They're petrified for him to do anything in a crucial spot.

And listen, they've got wide receiver talent. They've got running back talent. Don't tell me the bears don't have offensive talent. They've got players. In fact, at wide receiver, they got a little depth. And trading deadlines today. make the move. From day one, tomorrow, by the way, I said day one, I didn't like him in college, I didn't like him as a draft pick.

I thought they made a big mistake on drafting him, and it's a mess in Chicago. Where Colin was wrong. Speaking of a mess, Adam Gase had a winning record with Tannahill in Miami and beat Belichick twice. The jets are a disaster. Now, I think a lot of this is ownership and the previous GM, but I watched yesterday, penalties 10, Darnold, is running for his life. Sacked eight times, should have been 12, but he's still making decisions and throws.

He should be coached out of. They have no running game. I mean, Levy and Bell's averaging slightly over two yards of carry. They don't have a single unit on the team except the interior of the defensive line that I like. I like their safeties and the defensive interior. They're a mess.

He's awful optically at the press conference. He instills no confidence. They're not getting better. PAT's missed. tackles missed. I mean, they had a really good opening drive, and that was it. Now, again, the offensive line's injured, and we know when the offensive line goes south outside of New England, teams go south. But they do not look well coached, and I thought Adam Gates was the perfect elixir for Sam Darnold's rookie mistakes and rookie year.

Where Colin was right. Deshaun Watson, in terms of playmaker, he's a top three quarterback of my life. Russell Wilson's also in there. He's absolutely remarkable. And here's what I love about Deshawn Watson, is that he's doing this the last two years. Yesterday, the Texans offensive line once again was all beat up. He is doing this with either bad offensive lines or injury plague offensive lines.

Remember when Dabo Sweeney said he's Michael Jordan? I don't know what the critics don't see. He's completing 69% of his throws. Don't tell me he's just an athlete. He's completing higher than like Tom. He's in a Tom Brady category. His pass for ratings 105. What is it that people don't see?

Gruden finally echoed the sentiment of his college coach, Davo Sweeney. You see Michael Jordan. You see, you know, some of the great athletic plays in any sport. You've got to tip your hat to the guy. I mean, we had him three times. Then he makes an unbelievable throw, and the kid makes a great catch. We're not the first team he's gotten. I mean, this guy's a spectacular player.

He wills it out of his team. and he makes something out of nothing. And I didn't love him as a thrower out of college. He's gotten better at that. I mean, man, there are, you know Cleveland could have him right now? Not a shot at Baker. They had the number one pick they took Miles Garrett, good player, then they took Baker. They take Deshaun Watson.

The Bears have him to? Oh, yeah, the Bears did. There's a lot of coaches. Mahomes and Watson, there's a lot of GMs in this league. Yeah. Here we go. where Colin was wrong. You know, I defended Mike McCarthy for years with Aaron Rogers.

I said he's not a bad coach. Stop telling me that Mike McCarthy is a failure. But I have to be honest, Green Bay is fast, multiple, clever. Aaron Rogers is happiest I've ever seen him. They're really doing a nice job with using the running backs. Running backs yesterday Aaron Jones had seven catches. The running backs had four touchdowns. Listen, I said Mike McCarthy were blaming him for everything.

Aaron can be condescending and difficult, and I still think Aaron can be difficult. But the bottom line, you got to make Aaron Rogers happy. And I can sit here on my pedestal and say it's on Aaron, but Aaron's a great talent. And you've got to find a coach who works with him. And I didn't know if Matt Lafleur had it. He'd been a coordinator for one year, and Tennessee's offense regressed with him. But this has worked. Aaron's happy.

Lafleur's been very clever. And what I like about Lafleur and Aaron has how they communicate. communicate in the sidelines. Face to face, mono-a-mono. They come over, they talk, they work things out. They clearly are at least generationally, kind of the same guy, young, handsome, kind of glib, funny, smart guys. It works.

And McCarthy does look when you watch this. He looks old. Where Colin was right? When the Rams drafted Cooper Cup, I said, watch out. He is going to be one of these players. You look back years later and go, who's Cooper Cup? Well, I went to the same school, Eastern Washington. He's second in the NFL in wide receiver yards,

leads the NFL in third down catches and third down yards. When Todd Gurley got hurt last year, I said, okay, that's fine, but they're still running the ball with C.J. Anderson. I said, if you go back and look at Jared Goff when Cooper Cup got hurt, that's when Jared Goff was not the same quarterback. Now, I'm not saying Todd Gurley's not great, but C.J. Anderson came in and they ran the ball fine, last year. They got to a Super Bowl, you know, with Todd Gordy not playing. But golf has never been

the same when he lost Cooper Cup. He came in yesterday and was just insane against Cincinnati. He is, to me, not only the most underrated wide receiver in the league, but is it crazy to say? He's a top five wide receiver. When guys are open, significantly open on third down, some of its scheme, some of it for a wide receiver is you can't hide him and he's still open. Where Colin was wrong. I said Golden State would be fine. They'd be a fifth seed. They'd win a playoff series.

They're officially the worst defense in league history. Listen, once Clay Thompson announced, I'm out, it's like the air was let out of the balloon. They've got five G-leaguers in the back end of that bench. I mean, it's just they lost too much human capital. They lost Kevin Nourant. They lost Clay Thompson. They lost the leadership and smarts of Iggy. They lost Sean Livingston.

Alfonso McKinney, they moved off. DeMarcus cousins. They're bad. It's a, you know, sometimes in countries you have a lost year with the economy. This is a lost year. They're atrocious. They're not going to be a playoff team. It's not close.

People can blame Steph all they want. This is a bad, bad roster outside of the top three players. Where Colin was right. Tyree Irvington. three games, lost two of them, the bad teams, Memphis and Minnesota. So I say about Kyrie, he went there to be the man. This is what the man looks like. This is what?

He leads the NBA in points, shots, field goal attempts, this is what you want. And I said, be very careful about bailing on a great coach in sports. Be very careful about bailing on great coaches. Be very careful about bailing on LeBron in his prime. He's had two game winning shots, one missed, one blocked. because now when you prepare for him, you can double him. You put your best defender on him because there's nobody else on the floor. This is exactly what I said was going to happen.

He's going to get his shots. He's going to be the man. They're going to clear it out. And the culture last year, which was about team, is now about the man. And by the way, he's small, injury prone. And I guarantee you, when you rely on him this many minutes, this many shots, watch Kyrie Irving's health deteriorate over the next two months. Being with LeBron, he's like your bodyguard.

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knows quarterbacks in football as well as anybody and now is coaching it in Nashville, rebuilding a program there, the Lipscomb Academy head football coach and beautiful Nashville Tennessee via the Coward Global Satellite Network, my friend Trent Dope for the Monday. All right, I didn't say this lightly. I gave this thought, and I said, listen, 32 starts in the NFL, about double what Sam Donald has, I do think you can make judgments. And I think, you know, Mitch Trubisky didn't love him coming into the pros, don't love him. And I think I look at the NFC in the next nine weeks, Trent, they will be at a quarterback deficit in eight of the nine weeks.

I think Chicago's coach is good and their roster is excellent. I would make a move for Teddy Bridgewater. His work is done. He's leaving New Orleans at the end of the year. You can't pay him and Drew over $15, $18 million. Am I not saying trading deadlines tomorrow, Chicago, go out and get Teddy Bridgewater and don't take no for an answer? I don't think you're nuts at all, Colin. I like that move.

I totally agree with the Teddy Bridgewater play. I would also put in the Eli Manning play. I think Eli Manning, if you look at the two Super Bowls that he won with the Giants, those teams were built very similar to the Bears. I agree with you. This roster's too good. This team's too good. How they play football fits a Teddy Bridgewater and Eli Manning.

Mitch Trubisky holds this team back. And it goes back to a conversation we had a couple weeks ago. It's the love button syndrome that that GM fell in love with Mitch Trubisky through the draft process and overvalued him. Now he's holding on too long because Mitch is his love button and he's forever connected to him. This happens a lot in the NFL. It's happening to the Bears and it's holding the Bears back. Let's talk about their rival, the Green Bay Packers. I look at the top three teams in the league.

Saints, Niners, Patriots. I get great defenses, great coaches, and very good quarterback play. Green Bay's defense, I've watched Matt Moore last night be very comfortable. And I'm 500 yards to Dallas, 440 to Oakland, Philadelphia, control the clock. There's a difference between a great defense to me, Trent, and some great defensive playmakers. I think Green Bay, I came away from that game last night saying if I'm Green Bay, I'm a little worried about the defensive side of the football. Am I hyperbolic here?

Not at all. I don't think Green Bay is the best team in their division. I think Minnesota Vikings are because of defense. I think the Vikings defense is sound, solid, tested. I think the Packers' defense is Feaster Famin. It's always been that way with Petton. You go back and look at Petton's DNA as a play caller. He'll win 8 to 15 plays a game because of scheme,

but he's going to give up 6 to 10. The difference is when he gives up 6 to 10, that turns into points. As a quarterback, is a really good offense, you're looking for a Feaster Famine Defense. You know there's going to be difficulties at time, but you know you're going to expose where they're unsound, and this is unsound defense at times,

and the really good players are going to take advantage of it. Very much like Greg Williams. I think if you're looking for a comparable, it's a Greg Williams comparable, how he coaches defense. Yeah, they're going to blitz you, and they're going to show bravado, and they're going to, you know, want to do it. all these really cool, manly things on defense, and then they're going to give up 28 because

they're going to face a really good quarterback that says, okay, keep doing this stuff, keep being unsound, and eventually I'm going to catch you where you're unsound. And I think that's exactly what the Green Bayeat Packers are on defense. I think that's why they're the second best team in their division right now. Wow. I judge teams off a buy. When you give a good coach extra time, not all coaches take advantage of it. We know who does, Sabin, Barry Alvarez. had a great record. Urban Meyer, Belichick, Reed, but we know who they are. To come off a buy and Freddie Kitchens and the Browns offensively, you know, Nick Chubbs a good kid fumbled, but 13 penalties. I just looked at Cleveland and I thought,

this does not look like a team off a buy, right? I'm not being too critical. You're not. I wish we could disagree more. This segment is so much better when we disagree, but we're like minded on this. It looked like spitball offense to me. It looked like. like they spent all week saying, oh, that's a cool play. That's a cool play. Oh, we can trick them here. Oh, we can do that. And they just threw spitballs against the wall and said, okay, let's pull that one off and try it. What's the identity of the Cleveland Browns? You know, we talked about it a couple weeks ago and they started right in the ship a little bit. They should be a run, run action team. Run the rock with Nick Chubb and then play action pass off of it.

Let Baker Mayfield split the field in half, get it out of his hand to talent playmakers quick. We know a couple things. We know the longer Baker holds the ball, the worse he gets. When he's on time, when he's on rhythm, he can be deadly accurate. We know they have speed guys. We know they have Twitch guys at the skill position. Let them win early. They don't need to win late. Let them win early.

Puncture the inside of the defense with the running back. You don't have a great pass protecting offensive lines. Let them come downhill. Let them play aggressively. I don't know why they're not doing this stuff. This is remedial type stuff in the NFL. and I think it goes back to a conversation we had a long time ago. I think Freddie Kitchen is a good guy.

He's a good coach. He's out over his skis. And it's obvious right now watching the Cleveland Browns offensively and just how much they struggle. All right. Now let's get to the disagree stuff. Philadelphia, I know she ruined my credit, but I love her and I gave her another chance. Come on, they went to Philly, baby.

They're for real, Trenddilfer. They're almost. they're almost. Like they're almost good. And almost the NFL is 500. And you're overreacting. Yeah, they played well. It was a big win for Carson Wentz. They rallied. They also had the young quarterback fumble it three times. I mean, they were given the game in a sense as well. So I think you're going to be, you're going to grow increasingly more frustrated if you hold on to this one too long.

They're going to make you feel really good. And then they're going to break your heart because I've been on almost teams where you're almost there, but you're not there. And I think that's the Philadelphia Eagles. All right. Here's another, I don't know if we'll have a disagreement, but I tease this. And I think I know where you're going. You said there's a quarterback out there that is the next Tony Romo, which is we don't watch a ton of his college. You know, you don't talk about him on draft weekend. And you wake up and you're like, oh, Lord, he's a plane. So Gardner Minchews your guy. He is, man.

And I spotted this last year early in the season while I was Washington State. I wrote an article for Athletic where I talked about it, studying all these quarterbacks coming out last year and the ones coming out this year, the Herberts and the Tuas and the frams last year, the guys that came out. And of everybody I studied, the purest passer, the guy with the greatest instincts, the guy that could wiggle and shake and move just enough in the pocket to create time and space, the guy that threw guys open the most often, the guy that had gun barrel toughness, all those things, is true passing instincts, passing pedigree, Gardner Menshoe. I mean,

he is awesome. In fact, Drew Bletsow and I know another buddy of yours were texting last week and Drew said we were not wrong. This kid is a franchise quarterback. He's not just a starter. He's the guy you can build long-term around if you're the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's Tony Romo. Tony Romo was a sneaky late-round pick. Nobody was sure. Only Peyton and Parcells really believed in them. They knew it was going to take time.

Gardner's come on even quicker than Tony Romo. Look at Tony Romo's career. A great, great franchise career for the Dallas Cowboys. I think the Jacksonville Jaguars have the same thing, Gardner Minshu. By the way, Nick Foles, Chicago Bears, Nick Foles, make a call. That's another one. Yeah. I mean, Chicago right now.

It looks like Gardner Minshue was the guy. He was better than Donald yesterday. No question. Okay, now let's get back to something I think we'll agree on. Take our audience back to Deshawn Watson. I mean, Trent, it's absurd. I mean, he's doing this. He's completing 70% of his throws, 105 passer rating with a bad O line or a beat-up O line.

And you saw him. When did you see him when he was 16 or 17? 16 years old. And like we said on the show a couple weeks ago, you can't truly appreciate him until you spend a lot of time around him. And that's why Davo said what he said about him being Michael Jordan when he left Clemson. And here's the scary thing, Colin, he's only going to get better because they're only going to get better at the offensive line.

Bill O'Brien's only going to grow the offense out a little bit more. They're only going to evolve as a football team. And Deshaun's just beginning to tap into how good he can be. He's just now on the last call at 16 starts really getting, comfortable with a full field throw catalog. You know, the second layer two balls, the throwing guys open on the boundary, the little flick of the wrist underneath stuff. I mean, he never really developed that at Clemson.

And now he's starting to develop that entire throw catalog. I think you got to start making the Aaron Rogers comparison to Sean Watson. Aaron had three years to sit there and watch Brett. He came on early on. I remember you not being a buyer early on with Aaron. Yeah. I had to convince you in Bristol, give him a couple years, and then he becomes one of the elite players in the NFL. I think Deshawn's in that period right now where you can see it coming, but it's going to be a Patrick Mahomes, Deshawn Watson discussion for the premier player in the NFL for maybe the next, I don't know, five, seven, ten years.

Good stuff. Trent Dilfer, love him, Lipscomb Academy head football coach, a Super Bowl, a pro bowl, 15 years, knows that. stuff straightens me out when I get wrong. How about that? We got another Tony Romo. He's down in North Florida and Jacksonville. How about that? Trent, great seeing you. Thanks, buddy. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where sports slice comes in. I'm Timbo. In every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headlines. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear.

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