The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/04/2019
Episode Date: November 4, 2019Colin is not worried about the Patriots despite the 17 point loss to the Ravens and explains why. He says the Packers got punched in the mouth and didn't respond with any kind of toughness. He apolo...gizes for a strong opinion he had last week about the Browns that was totally wrong. He also admits where else he was wrong over the weekend in the NFL. PLus, former NFL QB Michael Vick comes in studio to talk about what Lamar Jackson is doing and what is wrong with Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What a crazy, crazy Sunday.
There's a million storylines today.
There are, and I'm very hurt, because every time, you know, I've known this my whole life
that I should not put anything, any faith in the Browns.
And every time I do it, I am reminded of my roots.
Thank you, Pittsburgh, for that.
And your dolphins can't even tank right.
Oh, no.
I mean, I called that on Friday.
I told you and Jason McIntyre when you're walking out.
Like, hands down, Dolphins are going to win this game, for sure.
They did.
They look great.
Let me start with this.
Wow, Baltimore crushed New England.
If not for a couple of fumbles, would have been far worse.
But let me say this about New England.
I didn't understand how New England won the Super Bowl last year.
I kept saying all last year, they have no vertical passing threat,
Gronks old and injured, Brady's just old,
they were 21st in total defense,
they didn't have an elite pass rusher,
they were completely dependent on third down on Julian Edelman,
and oh, by the way, they didn't even have home field advantage last year.
They had to go to Kansas City.
I kept saying all year last year,
they don't look like a super,
Super Bowl team.
And then they got to the Super Bowl against the Young Rams team and I said, okay, they'll win.
This year, they look even less like a Super Bowl team.
Gronks retired.
Now Brady's older.
They still have no vertical passing threat.
They still don't have an elite pass rusher.
They barely even acknowledge the tight end position.
Their first round draft pick hasn't played a lick.
And they lost their left tackle and their center, the two most important positions on the
offensive line. Oh, my bad, that I say they're also on their third kicker of the year.
They were always good at that. Now you can't rely on that. But come January in Foxborough,
Baltimore in New England, who you got? I'll probably take New England. Listen, they have one loss
by the by week. Last year, they had three. And Lamar Jackson has only beaten one time that's
gotten a second look at him. Cruddy Cincinnati.
99% of the time, here's how I look at New England, my eyes validate a dynasty.
Serena Williams or Tiger Woods in their prime, they just look stronger and more powerful.
The 70s, the 80s, 90s, 49ers, the Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan, the Shaq and Kobe
Lakers, Alabama football, the Miami Hurricanes for 15 years. My eyes told me,
They're bigger, stronger, faster, more powerful.
But with New England, that's never the case.
It's like they're really good on a bunch of stuff I can't see,
like offensive line coaching and situational football and trapping blocks
and shifting from too deep to a zero blitz.
And they've been fooling me for years.
They don't look like a dynasty should look.
look like. That's why I don't take much from last night. Yes, nobody on this show thought New England
was going to go undefeated. We all knew that their defensive stats were better than their defense,
although I do think they're secondary is phenomenal. They played a bunch of crappy quarterbacks.
Here's what I took from last night. A lot of stuff from Baltimore. Last night wasn't about New
England. We know what New England is. Last night was about Baltimore. It was about John Harbaugh being
disrespected for years. It was about the fact that Mark Ingram and Lamar Jackson are a pain to prepare
for. In the new NFL world where practice, you use pads one day a week, good luck, preparing for the best
rushing offense by a mile in the league that's super physical. John Harbaugh, oh, by the way,
he's now 10 and 2 off buys. And because they're so structurally excellent, some of their
defensive issues and offensive issues early have been solved because that's what good teams do.
Last night was about Baltimore.
It wasn't about New England.
It was about Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh and Mark Ingram saying, hey, we deserve to be in the Super Bowl conversation too.
Not just in it.
We can win it.
We went to Kansas City and beat Mahomes.
We dominated New England.
Nobody's done that in 10 games.
last night was about Baltimore saying our coach is a top three coach.
Our quarterbacks harder now to prepare for than an old Brady.
Our organization solved our cornerback issue and our offensive line sluggishness early.
It wasn't about New England.
Last night was all about Baltimore.
And there were two stats that jumped out.
New England's defense is good.
Their secondary is great.
But these two are Super Bowl winning stats.
Four for four in the red zone.
against New England. Four appearances, four touchdowns.
Couldn't say the last time that happened. And 37 minutes time of possession.
And the NFL has always been about one thing. And this is something we talk about on this show a lot,
but I don't hear it talked about on other shows. What's your identity?
This matters for Fox Sports. It matters for IBM. It matters for Apple. It matters for Starbucks.
What's your identity? Is there any...
team in the NFL that has a stronger identity this morning than Baltimore's offense.
We run a lot well and score a bunch of points.
I mean, half the teams in this league, Cleveland's got the talent.
They don't know what the hell they are.
Baltimore, and they did this very early with Lamar Jackson.
You can argue they did it the day of the draft.
They said, we're going to get big, we're going to get powerful, we're going to support this kid,
and we're not going to force him to be what he's not.
We're going to use what he's great at
and develop what he can get better at.
And once again, when it was all set and done,
I don't get a loud, cocky, brash quarterback from Ohio.
I get a kid that says, we're just starting here.
I feel like our team already knew what we was capable of love, you know.
We just had to show it, and we did that tonight.
We just have to build off that.
You know, we can't just get on our hard horse feel like,
you know, we just won the Super Bowl because we just won the football.
did it. That's just one regular season game. We got to continue to build.
Just a win, just a W over the world's greatest football team.
And his answer is, good game next week.
I got to get back in the wait room, make my traps bigger, did that in the offseason.
My kind of quarterback. My kind of quarterback.
All right, so let's talk now about Green Bay.
So New England lost ugly. This is not college football. It happens.
Green Bay lost ugly.
Here's the difference, though.
I have seen Green Bay lose twice this year.
It's not that they lost.
It's how they lost.
Philadelphia and the Chargers lined up and said,
no, we're going to push you all over the field.
And Green Bay had no answer.
Okay, now maybe it's their young coach.
Young coaches tend to not be the great adjustment coaches like veteran coaches.
Sean McBey in the Super Bowl.
Excellent coach.
Didn't adjust very well.
65-year-old Bill Belichick's a great adjuster.
So is Pete Carroll.
So's Andy Reed.
So's John Harbaugh.
But I don't think it's that.
I think it's the fact that,
and I grew up watching Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard as fighters.
They were both pretty and they were both dancers and they were both fun.
But they could knock you out.
They could knock you out.
Green Bay is fun and they're flashy and they're cool and their quarterback.
in commercials.
They don't want anything to do
with tough guys. You ever watch one of those
UFC fights? One guy's like,
he doesn't look like he wants to be in the
octagon. You ever watch a high school fight?
The bully picks on the little kid and a little
kid. He's just looking for a teacher to come through the
door and save him. Green Bay
is not beating the Saints
and they're not beating San Francisco.
Forget about the other conference.
Forget about if they had to match up with Baltimore.
Green Bay against Philadelphia and the
Chargers yesterday, they, they're a finesse football team.
And by the way, this is my argument against Kansas City.
I love watching the Chiefs.
I love watching the Packers.
But at some point, you have got to impose your will on people in this sport.
It's getting cold and windy.
And yesterday, the Packers looked like they just flew out to Hollywood, had a good time,
ate it no boo on Saturday night, and then no showed on Sunday afternoon.
Now, Aaron Rogers said this actually was the problem.
This is a good slice of humble pie for us.
You know, we're kind of rolling at 7 of 1 and starting to, you know,
listen to the chatter, maybe a little too much.
So I think this would be a good thing for us.
We're a group, go back home and play another good team before the back.
This wasn't about being cocky.
This was about you got punched in the mouth and you wanted no part of being in the octagon.
You had no interest being in that fight.
And I get it.
Some guys are bigger and stronger.
But the Saints and the 49ers, well, they can be fun and flashy too.
Elle, run you over.
Green Bay's offensive line mauled.
Defensive line, non-factor.
Once again, their defense, opportunistic, not intimidating, didn't create a turnover
with an old, unathletic quarterback and a below-average offensive line.
It's not that you lose in the NFL.
Well, everybody does except the 72 dolphins.
It's how you lose.
No adjustments from the young coach and no interest being in that football game.
No boo on Saturday night and no show on Sunday afternoon.
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Here's the thing. I love football. We both love football.
Your brother's a Hall of Famer. You love it. I love it.
I sit around on the weekends in the offseason looking at Mawks.
drafts. Yes, you do. You do actually do that. I have no life. I love football. And Friday, I forgot
about everything I've ever preached about. I care about coaching and in situational excellence
and history and structure. My tiny little brain loves structure and dependability. That's what I
need. And I threw all of that out Friday because I started staring at NFL schedules.
and I went, the Browns have an easier schedule, and Baltimore's gets hard.
And I said on the air, seriously, in a month, Cleveland will be in first place and Baltimore will be in second place.
I'm embarrassing.
I apologize.
I have told my staff to take it off the archive.
It is my worst football take ever.
Everything that matters to me, I bailed on because I couldn't get over the schedules.
And it's embarrassing.
And as I'm sitting there last night watching Baltimore win in Cleveland implode, I'm thinking, timeout.
I forgot some very obvious things.
John Harbaugh is excellent.
And Cleveland coach Freddie Kitchens is a bus boy at Applebee's.
I forgot that Lamar Jackson is coachable and hardworking and quiet and getting better.
He's even changed his body.
And Cleveland's quarterback is loud and cocky and thinks that.
That's leadership.
I forgot that Baltimore historically is a step-up organization.
Two Super Bowls, two for two.
They just win big games.
They've never been intimidated by New England.
In Foxborough and Baltimore.
Cleveland's history, Chapter 1, were imploding.
Chapters 2 through 19, read Chapter 1.
And I forgot all of it.
Everything that matters to me, I've talked about the big four in the NFL.
Who's your owner?
Who's your GM?
Who's your coach?
and who's your quarterback?
It is a clean sweep for Baltimore.
They've got a great owner and a smart GM.
And then he retired and they got another smart GM.
And they got a great coach who's 10 and 2 off-bys.
And they found this quarterback and made an immediate pivot into,
we're going to change the way we play football,
a clean sweep.
And once again, Cleveland is loud, cocky, young, and not very smart.
Totally on me.
If I was a stockbroker, I would have told you Friday to buy Bitcoin over Starbucks, to buy Blockbuster over Apple, to buy Enron over IBM.
It's my worst football take ever.
I'm watching Cleveland come out in the biggest game of the year.
They're completely flat, which is hard to explain.
OBJ and Jarvis Landry are more consumed with their shoes, according to stories, than the game.
And Baker Mayfield shaved three times inside the stadium.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
And again, I know this is what I care about.
To a fault ad nauseum.
I can be repetitive and boring.
Who's your owner?
Who's your coach?
Who's your front office?
Who's your quarterback?
I want eight grownups.
That's why I refused to bail on Philadelphia.
Why everybody bailed on the Eagles after the cowboy loss, I'm said,
no, no, no, no, they're structurally too good.
Let him get healthy.
I'm not bail on Philadelphia.
Yet I was willing to bail on Baltimore.
My bad.
Burn the tape.
Erase it.
Archive it.
Do whatever you got to do, Goulet.
My worst football take ever.
Agreedously bad.
I'm going to apologize to joy personally having to sit through that nonsense.
Now again, I am usually brilliant.
But for two minutes, I was a dope.
And I apologize.
It's okay.
You went a little far with predicting that the Broncos would end up first over the Ravens.
But there's no reason why the Browns shouldn't have won that game.
So that game prediction wasn't off.
How can you come out flat?
Brandon Allen had never taken the NFL snap.
Move the ball down the field, the running game.
They did anything they wanted to in the first half.
What's happening?
I don't think anyone knows the answer to my question.
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13 years in the NFL, a remarkable career, a four-time Pro Bowl,
and now Lamar Jackson is embarking on breaking Mike Vicks
records. What do we make of that? Mike Vick, as he moves like Lamar Jackson to the set,
John. By the way, it is, there are, I remember when you came into the league, and I remember saying
this, it's not that Michael Vick is a running quarterback. Outside of Alan Rossum, I think he's the
fastest Falcon. Yeah, I was. Yeah, and so. Potentially with DeAngelo Hall in the mix, too.
So with Lamar, there's difference between, you know, he's a mobile quarterback and, oh, hell,
he may be the fastest player. Do you see a little? Do you see a little? You see a little?
little of yourself in Lamar.
Yeah, I do.
Lamar's acceleration is amazing.
When he takes off, when he puts his foot in the ground,
and when he wants to make a guy miss and turn it up,
he's the best in the league,
the best I've ever seen since myself.
Yeah.
And doing that.
And that's a special talent to have.
And it's something that he'll be able to do for a long,
long time, man.
It's amazing what he's going to be able to do.
And just the circumstances,
the tough situations you're going to put opposing defenses in moving forward.
Let's talk about this.
Mike, it's so important for young players, the two quarterbacks that are kicking butt that are young,
Jimmy Garoppolo and Lamar Jackson.
Yeah.
They got great coaches.
Great coaches.
Let's go back to your career.
I think, and this is not a shot at Jimmy G.
Yeah.
And it's not a shot at Lamar.
But Joy and I were talking about this this morning.
If you had taken Joy and I in our first career broadcasting jobs and we had bad bosses,
I can remember my first job.
I was very lucky.
I've had great bosses.
Makes a difference.
You went to Atlanta.
That team was not actually built for you.
Right.
Go back and tell people.
That's why you initially, it was kind of a past happy team.
Yeah, it was past happy.
It was West Coast.
Once Dan Reeves got fired, who I thought Dan was great for my career early.
He was very innovative, and he took advantage of my skill set,
similar to what you see with Lamar.
And then, you know, three years later, I get Jim Moore and Greg Knapp,
West Coast system.
I had to learn, you know, the ends and outs and how to, how to, you know, go out and
and win a game running that system with all the rules and.
And that was a lot of short passes.
And decision making, yeah, it was short passes.
And it wasn't run oriented at all.
If I had to take off and run, it was because the play broke down or, you know, somebody
with them protection.
And, you know, at the time, I wasn't thinking I need an offense centered around me to help
me, you know, showcase all my talents.
It was just about doing what the coaches asked me to do, trying to do it well and trying to be the best at the position.
Yeah.
Are you, when you look at New England, I don't want to, you know, listen, New England's defense will be fine.
When you face Baltimore, did you look at New England and say, if they face Lamar again, they can't solve this?
Like, what did you see that New England could get better at, improve at, and one of it's just problematic?
Honestly, when I watched the game yesterday, I look at what New England did defensively,
and I looked at the Baltimore Ravers' offense and the identity, which is, you know,
they got their own set of rules, their own concepts, you know, their own identity.
You know, this is an offense that's being built around Lamar,
and it's going to be the called whatever type of offense you want to call it in the future.
But nobody's running it.
Nobody's running it.
You know, like I said, own identity, own set of rules.
you know, it's one package that fits Lamar's skill set
and the rest of the guys, you know, Ingram and John Brown,
they all are sprinkled into the mix.
But I'm watching it saying, okay, I see this game
and it was different, you know, as far as what New England did
than what I thought they would do.
Mixed in a lot of zone.
I thought they would play more man and I'm like, look,
this is a team that know they're going to face deep.
Both of these teams know they'll face each other down the road.
Right.
Do you show your cards right now?
Is it...
Now, that's interesting.
of a necessity to win this game.
What does it do for both teams?
I hate to give away anybody's game plan,
but they'll see each other down the road.
It's very interesting because Baltimore's going to win their division.
So is New England.
Now, fans will say this.
Patriot fans this morning are like,
we didn't want to show our hand.
Listen, Belichick wants to win the game.
But that's an interesting concept
that do you think New England potentially went in and said,
we're going to try some things?
We're not going to try everything.
Is there, does that exist in the NFL?
I think it has to a certain degree because when you're facing a guy like Lamar,
you can't go in with one game plan and say this is what we're going to do all game.
You know, I think you've got to have to go in with a couple different coverages
and a couple different looks and kind of toy around,
even though this is not the league to be touring around.
When you 8, no, you know, you can be, you know, a little lenient, you know,
as far as your game plan.
And I think, you know, they know they're going to have to deal with Lamar for years on then, you know,
at the end of the year at some point.
So why not try certain things, see what works.
And, you know, you keep the things in the game plan at work
and you try to build upon, you know, some foundation
that can contain the quarterback like Lamar because right now it's almost impossible to do.
Yeah.
All right, let's punch on three things here.
All right, let's start with Cleveland.
You know, I don't want to pick on Freddie Kitchens,
but, you know, he'd never been a coordinator.
They hired him within his staff.
I saw a stat this morning, the seven coaches in the NFL that were hired from within the staff,
meaning the organization just said, let's elevate a guy on the staff.
All of them are struggling.
What do you see with Freddie Kitchens?
You know, honestly, I thought Kitchens was qualified.
I looked at his background.
A couple years where he was a quarterback coach for certain teams, I think, in Arizona.
And then he was a running backs coach.
And I'm thinking, like, to what benefit does that have for a guy like Baker Mayfield or a quarterback in any sense?
You know, where's the experience?
You know, I think you have to draw from your personal experience, not just from what you learn, you know, when you're coaching running backs or, you know, short tenure as a quarterback's coach.
You have to be able to give a quarterback everything and not because you played the position and you learn from experience.
you know, you have to give them a little more
than what, you know, the average coach can give.
And I think Baker needs to be paired with a guy
and not taking any credit away from kitchens.
I'm only talking about the experience factor.
He needs to be paired with a guy who has years and years of, you know,
quarterback experience, you know, working with different quarterbacks
or, you know, a guy who knows the quarterback position and played it
and been through, you know, the fire out there on the field.
I think that's the best thing for him.
And I thought, you know, Greg Williams was a qualified guy because he's been around a bunch of experience coaches.
And even though he's a defensive guy, he could have helped out on the office.
He's been around the league for 25.
Just based on, you know, yeah, his experience and what he knows and the people he's been around.
I thought they got it backwards and I thought it would work, but it's just not good for Baker.
Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers.
Now, you do go into games and clearly the Chargers game plan was very,
successful early against Green Bay. My concern was Green Bay never really adjusted. I mean, Bosa
just ate him alive. He's a great player. But when you watch Green Bay, it's not that they lost.
Is it troubling to you how they lost lack of adjustments? It was the same game for three and a half
hours. It was troubling to watch. But what I do know is that sometimes you run into teams
that, you know,
that desperate for a win, you're playing on the road,
you come in thinking that you're going to
pretty much wax them and beat them convincingly,
and then those guys come to play.
And then you get stymied and you can't move the ball
and things are kind of haywire for a while.
By the time you try to get,
you start getting yourself together, it's too late.
I've been a part of a, not a bunch of games,
but enough to know what that game yesterday was all about.
It was about momentum for,
the charges. It was about the Packers being a little flat. And like Aaron said, this is something
that we needed to humble us a little bit so that we know that we're not, you know, we're not
where we need to be as of yet. A game like that will make you be better in your next five or six
games hands down. You think so, really? Absolutely. Yes. That game was, like he said, was very
humbling. It was humbling for me to watch, you know, because I just knew that Green Bay would
win that game. Convincingly, I know it would be tough and I know how competitive the charges are.
But eight minutes in.
The best team is going to win on that day, on that given day. The best team will come out with a victory.
Yeah, don't forget last year, New England lost five games on the road to teams that didn't
make the playoffs. This is the difference between the NFL and college.
Absolutely. You don't bring it. Cleveland didn't bring it. You get down fast.
Yes. Let's go to a team. I was very critical of John Grubb.
He'd been out of the sport for a decade.
And I said, listen, there are just certain businesses.
I always compare it to Silicon Valley.
I mean, every year, it feels like a different industry.
And I'm like, football's the same thing.
It doesn't even look the same on TV year to year.
I got to tell you something.
That's a real football team, man.
Derek Carr looks comfortable.
Derek Carr's getting better.
Josh Jacobs is a star.
And there's something about Gruden.
He's old school, but he's clever.
How about that fake puny?
yesterday. What do you make of the Raiders?
You take John Gruton
and Mayotte and you put them together
and Gruton from his past experience
and being able to work with
quarterbacks, that's what he's pretty much made a living
off of. You know, outside of being a great
personality and the hard-nosed coach,
he knows
quarterbacks and I thought he would
be a guy who needed some time to adjust
to the game, being away for 10 years.
And I knew last year would be a trial and error
period for him, so I didn't judge him on that.
But this year, this team looks
totally different. They look confident. They look like
they're starting to understand
what the offense is about. By the way,
tied in. Multiple weapons.
Oh, yeah. Renfro, you know,
you got Jacobs. I mean, you got
guys that we don't really know
or not marquee players, but
you know, I'm making, you know,
making, hey, every time they step out on the field
and that's a credit to, you know,
Mayak and what, you know, he knows
and his
his eye for talent and, you know, John Gruden putting these guys in positions.
And I just think that Derek Carr's, he's always been efficient and one of the best to me.
Yeah, he's always a high completion.
Yeah, I mean, he gets it done.
You put players around him, you build a game plan, you know, around him that he can understand and go out of executing.
He'll do it.
You know, I like his game.
By the way, I thought of you yesterday.
So I asked you before the best coach you ever had, and you said Andy Reid.
Yes.
So it's amazing.
So they don't have Patrick Mahomes.
They don't have their left tackle.
And they face a Minnesota defense, which has pass rushers, all pro-linebackers, great corners, pro-bowl safety.
Yes.
And they take Matt Moore, who was coaching high school.
And they take Damien Williams, who, you know, we don't know much about.
He ends up rushing for 100-some yards.
How do you take Matt Moore, a high school football coach, and immediately, simple
a game plan. Matt Moore looked totally comfortable
against, now you, again, you were with Andy Reed.
How does Andy get you to consume a playbook
and so quickly own it?
Andy draws from his experiences with quarterbacks.
He coached quarterbacks for a long time, and that's what I was talking about
in regards to the Freddie Kitchen situation.
You know, Andy, he worked with Gruten years ago.
I mean, up 10 years ago, but
they had rapport with, you know, Brent Fav and, you know, with Bruton of Cunningham.
And, you know, that whole era was just, you know, it was quarterback-based and it was
quarterback-driven.
So Andy knows quarterbacks, you know, you can give him a guy like Matt Moore or you can
give him a guy like Aaron Rogers.
You can even give him Lamar Jackson, and Lamar Jackson will flourish in the Andy
Reese's offense because Andy is going to do what makes him this guy better,
than what he is.
Now, you told me once,
Andy doesn't try to make you fit into him.
No, he's going to do what you like.
He's going to ask you what you're comfortable with.
He's going to give you a presentation on a Tuesday night.
And then on Wednesday, you know, it's dissertation.
You talk about it.
You talk about it.
Yes, this is what I love this coach.
This right here.
I don't know if we can, I'm not comfortable.
He'll say, well, try it out and see what you feel.
Tell me what you feel at the end of the week.
you know, it's always open-ended.
And, you know, his concepts and the things that he see when watching film,
he gets a kick out of. He loves it.
And you best to believe, a guy like Matt Moore,
who hasn't had an Andy Reid in his career,
loves everything that he sees in the game playing Wednesday morning.
I guarantee you.
And that's why he's able to go out and be efficient.
Let's go back to Lamar Jackson.
So we're going to show some Lamar Jackson video.
Yeah.
When he made a run yesterday, made a bunch of guys miss,
take me, I want you to just go back in your mind
when you were like Lamar and you're running.
Russell Wilson once told me, he goes,
when I run I feel like a kid at a shopping mall.
I'm just dodging shoppers.
Are you thinking about it?
Is it instinct?
What takes over?
You know, I can understand why Russell said that
because, you know, you actually making grown men miss.
And the fact that I was doing it,
in the National Football League,
college was one thing.
When I was doing it in the NFL,
I was like, look at me in the NFL
making grown men miss.
And I'm watching Lamar, and I'm like,
he's making grown men miss.
I watch Russell.
He made grown men miss.
And these guys are professionals.
They are the best tacklers in the world.
It must give you confidence.
It just gives you a kick,
and it's almost funny,
and you go back and watch film,
and now you got the whole world laughing
and the whole world watching
and tuned in to,
what you're doing. So now you become just this big show off.
And that's what Lamar is coming.
It's a show off. That's what it turns into.
Mike, it's great seeing you again. Four Pro Bowls,
13 NFL seasons. I love having you on our show, buddy.
I mean, I love being up here.
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What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.
And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show,
I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff,
like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This line.
You know these kids.
This linebacker walks up to me.
He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Quarterback on office blue with 42.
Hey, ref.
My mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Hey, Ms. Parker.
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What's up, fam, Ms. Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds.
Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves,
I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us every.
everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nash would get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.
Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah,
you figure it out real quick.
Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app,
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All right, here we go.
We do it.
I make a lot of mistakes.
Sometimes I'm right.
Sometimes I'm wrong.
And on Mondays, I like to go back and say, all right, this is something I've been saying recently,
and I either nailed it or I whiffed.
It's called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, here we go.
Where Colin was right?
Everybody bailed on the Philadelphia Eagles when they lost to the Cowboys.
And I said, hold on, hold on, hold on.
This GMA, head coach, A, quarterback A, they got to get healthy.
They're too good structurally not to win.
Well, guess what?
They got Tim Jernigan back on the defensive line.
D-line is better.
They got Darby back at corner, secondary is better.
Their offensive line is getting healthier.
They're very good situationally.
Red zone offense, third down offense, top 10 in the NFL.
And again, leadership matters.
I like their leaders.
And here's the other thing.
They found their identity.
It took them a while.
This is a team that needs to run the football and then on play action,
throw to their excellent tight ends.
You can't rely on to show.
John Jackson's health.
I'm not saying this team should go to the Super Bowl and win, but they are way better than
everybody who bailed.
They were unhealthy.
They got healthy.
I like where they're at.
Where Colin was wrong.
Blazing 5 is officially in a mid-season three-week slump.
I am now 24-20 on the year, which is 54%.
I got the Raiders right.
I took favorites this weekend playing on the road, and I almost never do it.
And I got burned.
I was one and four.
I like the Packers. They mailed it in. I like New England. They got blown out, and I liked Indianapolis a lot.
And Jacoby Brissette got hurt in the first half and down went the Colts.
It's a crazy, bizarre old world season, and I'm in a slump.
Where Colin was right?
I like Derek Carr. I've always liked Derek Carr. I didn't get the rumors a year ago.
John Gruden doesn't like Derek Carr. Get a franchise quarterback. He's always reminded me a Tony Romo without the risk he throws.
He's got good feet. He's accurate. He's got a good, not great arm.
He's athletic, and he's a high completion guy.
This last year, even with Gruden last year, he was 71%.
And this year, he's like 73%.
I don't get the criticism.
He's a grown-up.
He can be a little sensitive on social media, but he reminds me a Romo.
I get the Romo accuracy, feet, he'll throw the ball.
He'll squeeze it into a window, but he didn't have a big arm.
And again, I'll say this again.
the idea that you can just go find Derek Carr's you guys watching football I mean every year it's like we think we have all the quarterbacks we need and we're eight teams every year like we got to get a different quarterback Derek Carr is a franchise quarterback get over it and the Raiders are good where Colin was wrong
Adam Gase is a disaster the Jets do nothing well you know what yesterday Sam Darnald had a terrible throw and went 27 for 39 that's not terrible considering that offensive line
They had 10 penalties through three quarters.
He instills no confidence.
They don't do anything well.
Their special teams are a mess.
Their defense gets gashed offensively.
The optics, the penalties.
You can bang on Darnold.
He had a terrible interception.
Darnold wasn't terrible.
He's a quirky coordinator with a weird, odd, rigid personality.
He doesn't work.
And I've lifted on this.
I watched him in New England beat Belichick twice.
I watched him in New England.
have a winning record with Ryan Tannahill.
Maybe Ryan Tannahill is better than I thought.
But they don't do anything well.
I don't believe in firing somebody mid-season.
This is not a darnal issue.
This is a coach, strategy, offensive lines, a disaster.
And I don't think those leaks last week in the press, that was going on.
How do you have nine different players on the trading block?
You can't keep any of that quiet?
Where Colin was right?
I'm a big Andy Reid fan.
have been for years. I think he's the great play designer, kind of of my last 10, 15 year,
this generation. He takes, you know, a high school football coach. They have a backup left tackle.
Those positions are sort of important. And they go up against the Minnesota defense,
which is stacked. Minnesota may have the best roster in the NFL, and they go toe-to-to-to
with Green Bay, and then they beat Minnesota. I mean, they really know what they're doing.
This is a really, really good football man. And again, Damien Williams,
He gets 12 carries 112 yards.
Minnesota doesn't allow running yards to the great backs.
Damian Williams gets 112.
And football has always been the coaching sport.
And Andy Reid doesn't have a Super Bowl.
But does anybody gets quarterbacks ramped up to play at a high level faster than Andy Reed ever?
It's amazing what they're doing right now.
Where Colin was wrong.
I have picked against the Oregon Ducks all year.
I picked against them to start the year.
I said they're flaky and they can't went on the road.
I picked against them in Seattle and they dominated the fourth quarter from the Huskies.
I picked against them this weekend.
Listen, I had questions about their coaching staff.
I said it's a great recruiting staff.
But every time they play outside of Austin Stadium, they're a mess.
They made great adjustments against Washington and USC.
Justin Herbert should be the first quarterback taken, including to a big, tall, arm leadership.
Again, if they're opportunistic, they're fast, they make adjustments, they have a great quarterback, they can play with power, their only loss is to Auburn, a game in which I felt they were the better team for most of it.
I was wrong, the ducks are for real, and right now, I think their loss is better than like Oklahoma's.
I'd put him into the final four.
Where Colin was right?
GM John Dorsey traded his best offensive lineman to get a personality-wide receiver.
It's not working.
I'm not saying OBJ is not talented, but he's a distraction.
He's had a watch issue.
He's had a visor issue.
He's had a socks issue.
He's had a cleat issue this weekend.
He's had a I'm not getting the ball enough issue.
The bottom line is, if you look, this year he's got one touchdown pass, a couple of
100-yard games, but I've always believed you pay people.
Like Lamar Jackson played great, they won.
That's the way football should work.
If Stefan Gilmore had two picks for the Patriots, you'd be like, oh, they won.
His production never equals wins.
It didn't in Cleveland.
It didn't in New York.
Right now, he's catching more flack than balls.
He is in the red zone.
Their fourth leading target.
In fact, I think now he's just a huge distractions.
Quarterbacks need help.
Not big personalities on the perimeter.
I hated this move initially.
I hate it more now.
I would trade OBJ in the offseason and get an interior.
offensive lineman and a draft pick.
Where Colin was wrong.
When Joey Bosa came out of Ohio State, I said,
I think he has a chance to be a bust.
In college, he was hot and cold, took plays off.
A lot of ego, too inconsistent.
Yeah, I was wrong on that.
I mean, yesterday he went up against Brian Beluga,
who's a Pro Bowl tackle, and it was embarrassing.
God, it was awful.
He leads the NFL in 11 tackles for a loss.
Yesterday, he had a sack and a half,
and four quarterback hits.
He's just been great.
That's why when his brother came out to the Niners,
I'm like, yeah, he'll be fine.
You know, he's just, he's a monster.
He's just incredibly, the Bosa brothers are, you know,
there's the word relentless.
They're just built to go 100 miles an hour.
Their dad was a football player.
They're both great football players.
I thought he was a hit and miss guy that took plays off at Ohio State.
He was unblockable yesterday.
Where Colin was right,
Three years ago, I kept saying, there's this kid in New England named Jimmy Garoppolo.
Eight teams need a quarterback.
Could somebody go and trade for him?
I didn't understand it.
He was good when he played for New England.
He couldn't get on the field because they have a guy named Brady.
And through 18 games now, he's got the second best record with Dan Marino and Roger Staubach to ever play.
He's good.
He's got the it, the look, the feel, the mobility, the size, the arm.
I just didn't get this.
I remember being, I had just gotten to this network and I kept saying, okay, I looked at all these college quarterbacks and I was like, Jimmy Garoppolo has Belichick.
Every time I've watched him play for New England.
In fact, I like Jacoby Brousset, the third guy, and I didn't think Brousette was nearly as good as Jimmy Garapolo.
We kept screaming.
It's the it factor.
The look, the confidence, the arm, the mobility.
You're watching them, folks.
Thursday night was the first time.
First time.
The Niners said, defense didn't show up.
We can't run the ball.
Take it over, Jimmy.
He was spectacular.
Where Colin was right.
One week into Kyrie Irving and Brooklyn, they're already saying he's different.
Listen, defensively, he's abysmal.
Offensively, he doesn't really share the ball with others.
Again, he is an artist.
He's a talent.
He's spectacular.
But this is my issue.
Small athlete, hard to get along with.
LeBron's pretty easy to deal with.
frankly, most guys, I mean, LeBron
doesn't have a lot of enemies in the league. Brad
Stevens gets along with every player except
Kyrie Irving. I'm not saying Brad Stevens
is Popovich or Kerr, but he's not
that difficult to get along with. Every other player
seems to be fine with him. Horford liked him.
Tatum likes him. Jalen Brown likes
him. Gordon Award likes him.
Remember this. Brooklyn made the playoffs
without Kyrie Irving, and he's a
free agent so they didn't have to get anything,
didn't have to give up anything to get him.
And now they're worse this year. They're
worse defensively. They're not sharing the ball.
he's a lot of work.
This was a playoff team last year.
Now they're worse with him
and didn't give up a bunch of stuff.
Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind,
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That's where Sports Slice comes in.
I'm Timbo, and every episode,
we're cutting through the noise,
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And we're going straight to the source,
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not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day
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help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
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What's up, guys?
This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.
And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show,
I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.
He goes, hey, ref.
My mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Come on.
Quarterback on office blue of 42.
Hey, right.
My mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Hey, Ms. Parker.
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So I'm Leanne.
Yeah.
This is my best friend, Janet.
Hey.
And we have been joined at the hips since high school.
Absolutely.
A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip.
Just a little bit bigger hips.
This is a podcast.
We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
With all the snacks and drinks.
Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
Oh, they hit a bogo.
Well, then you got them.
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