The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/05/2019

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

Colin doesn't know what people need to see from the Cowboys in order to believe in them because they seem to do everything well. He loves that Aaron Rodgers is calling out teammates for going out and partying in Los Angeles over the weekend. He reveals his top ten NFL teams in the Herd Hierarchy. Plus, Super Bowl Champion and 5x Pro Bowl DB Aqib Talib comes in studio and talks about being traded by the Rams and the similarities between Sean McVay and Bill Belichick. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Excellent teams. Not even in the top 10. Joy's joining me. Joy, how are you? I'm great. Good morning. Good morning. You know, I think we are, what do people expect from the Dallas Cowboys? Let me ask you this.

They just won 37 to 18 on the road, and Dak Prescott got through for three touchdowns. And I'm watching Cowboy fans complain last night, and I'm watching Twitter and people are all worked up. Okay, they're not San Francisco. All right. Who is, except the 49ers? They didn't surrender a touchdown to the Saints. I think the Saints are probably the second best team in the league. Never lost with Teddy Bridgewater.

May not lose again with Drew Breeze. what do you want? I don't understand it. This weekend, I watched New England get rolled and Green Bay get smoked. This year I've seen Philly, a team I like a lot, get destroyed two or three times. Baltimore got ambushed at home by Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland. A Kansas City was mauled at home with Patrick Mahomes against the Colts. Carolina, not competitive.

on the road against San Francisco. Rams, a couple of ugly losses. These are teams I like. What do you want from Dallas? What do you want? This reminds me of air travel in America. I never understand why we treat airline employees so bad. I can get on a flight in Los Angeles.

I can fly to New York in five hours. I can text Wi-Fi. I get free movies that have to pay and go to a theater. I get cocktails. The Delta employees are not. We've never bumped into another plane in the sky or hit a mountain. I don't understand why everybody's complaining. How long would it take in a train?

How many days would it take in a car? Five hours. I can wake up in L.A. and be staring at a beautiful Empire State building in New York. Five hours later. All people do is complain about air travel. I get free movie. What do you want, a five-star meal?

We're 33,000 feet in the air. You're right up there with a moon. I get everything I want. It's the same with the Cowboys. Dak Prescott. What do you want? They've had one ugly loss, Jets. And then they rebounded by destroying Philadelphia the next week.

Once again, they're good. They're very good football team. Excellent football team. 37-18 on the road. I'm looking at these stats. They're first and total offense. They're second in third down defense and first and third down offense. What do you want?

We've got a salary cap and free agency. who's great in this league? San Francisco struggled against Arizona, struggled against Mason Rudolph, they struggled against Washington, they struggled against Tampa, and that's the dominant team. And I don't know what you want with that Prescott,

but who would the Cowboys be a big underdog today in the NFL at San Francisco and at New England? Probably a touchdown underdog. Really? That's not good enough for it. you. I mean, let's go to my trusted Super Bowl bubble. And every time, there's always in my mind, there's always eight teams that I think can win the Super Bowl. Right now, it's New England, Baltimore, San Francisco, Kansas City when they get my home, Saints, Dallas, Green Bay, and Houston.

And then I think, Minnesota, Seattle, Philly, Rams, Carolina, they're dangerous. Dallas is in my Super Bowl bubble. Once again, they're winning a lot. They're five and three in the excellent NFC. This is not the AFC where there's like gimmee wins over Miami and gimmee wins over the Jets. And there's a lot of gimmee wins in the AFC. You know, Miami's tanking. Cincinnati's tanking. This is the NFC. I mean, we think Tampa's bad. Go ask Seattle how bad they are. Go ask Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson how lousy Tampa is. They all sorts of pro bowlers on offense. Dax's 5 and 3.

Dax on pace to go 10 and 6 in the NFC. Win their division. Air travel and the Cowboys. I can't figure out what you want. Dallas is 37 and 19 with DAC. Two division titles and a playoff win. That's in the same division with Russell Wilson. Same division with Pete Carroll and Aaron Rogers.

and Carson wins and all these Pro Bowl quarterback, Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, all these genius coaches. I think Dallas is a good football team. I think they won big last night. I think they'll win a lot of games. I think they'll finish. I predicted nine and seven. That's what it feels like to me. Week 17, they'll be vying for a playoff spot in a loaded NFC.

And I'm watching last night. Well, now I have one major concern with Dallas. and I'll address that after the break. But let me go to something else. You know through the years, despite what you read on Twitter, I do like Aaron Rogers. I think he can be condescending. I've seen family members and teammates multiple call him out.

So I'm not the only person that thinks that. He's got brothers, family, teammates. He can rub the wrong way. He can be a little arrogant. He can be a little condescending. But I think he's great. and right now I'd probably put him second, third in the MVP race. First ballot Hall of Famer.

I've always said I like Aaron more than Brett Farr. I think he's more of a thinking man's quarterback, a little less risky. I like Aaron over Fav, and I think that's probably a minority opinion in America. So for all those who think I don't like Aaron Rogers, it's true. I think he can be a little passive aggressive for my taste. I think he's thin-skinned like Kevin Durant, and he just doesn't like being criticized. And for 10 years, nobody criticized him except me. and now there's been other people to jump on board.

But I'll tell you the, I tell you the Aaron Rogers I like, not just that he throws great and he's a wizard and all stuff. When he's honest, and he's honest tactfully. I mean, there's ways to be honest with your wife or your husband, but you have to be tactful. And he was very tactful and brutally honest. He didn't name names. He didn't get personal.

Talking about the Packers' atrocious performance in Los Angeles, against the Chargers on Sunday. We've got to be honest with our routine and decisions we made the last 48 hours and make sure that our heads in the right place the next time we come on a big road trip. You don't have to squint to see what he's saying. The Packers have young receivers,

young running backs, and a young defense. And they came out early Friday and they partied too much. Now, Aaron Rogers has a house in Los Angeles. It's no big deal. But for a lot of those Packers, 85%, they've never been to L.A. And there's two cities in America that are a major distraction for pro athletes. Miami and L.A.

Remember a couple years ago? The Steelers went to Miami, a very good Steelers team. Went down, lost 30 to 15 to an average Miami team, and Steelers players were barfing on the field. They had too much rum the night before. There are betters in Major League Baseball. that bet baseball games. It's called the Miami Advantage. You look at teams, young teams, third game in a three-game series in Miami,

after they win the second game, party, third game, nobody shows up. Everybody's got a hangover. Listen, the Green Bay Packers, a very young team with a young coach and young receivers and young backs and young defensive players, came to Los Angeles and partied hard. And Aaron Rogers called him out. He basically said, don't have to squint to see it. We've run the bite again. He's basically telling you the two days we were in Los Angeles,

we got to do a better job being grownups. We've got to be, you know, honest with our, you know, our routine and decisions we made the last 48 hours and make sure that our head's in the right place the next time we come on a big road trip. That is as honest and as forthright. you can be. He didn't name names, never got personal. He just said 48 hours, we screwed off. We didn't take it seriously. The more you examine those quotes, the more I appreciate Aaron Rogers. I saw Pittsburgh do it in Miami. I've seen baseball teams. The Houston Rockets went to Miami this weekend,

and they trailed the Miami heat 54 to 17. Too much vodka, too much rum. South Beach flu. South Beach flu. And this was the L.A. flu. And Aaron called him out. And he called him. out the right way. Big broad message for the coach to hear, the players to hear, the GM to hear, the city to hear, the media to hear, but he did it with class. Didn't point any fingers, just a big

broad message. Time to grow up. If we want to beat the Saints, we want to beat the Ravens, we want to beat the Patriots. Because I saw Baltimore, last year with Lamar Jackson come out to L.A., and it was a business trip. They crushed the Chargers. I was there. That was a

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I just saw Green Bay and New England get rolled this weekend. Baltimore get rolled at home against Cleveland. You just don't know. that's why betting is hard. I can pick winners all weekend, but against the spread, good Lord. It's tough. And so there is one thing about Dallas that concerns me. If you and I were lawyers and I had twice as much time to prepare for the case as you,

I'm not a very good lawyer if I can't beat you. If you and I are college students and you have twice as much time to prepare for the midterm as I do, you better get a better grade than me or I'm a lot smarter than you. The Dallas Cowboys once again off a buy came out completely flat against a bad team. That's what worries me about Dallas. Jason Gerridoff buys is five and five. Last year off a buy, they got drilled by Tennessee, a pretty average team. This year off a buy, man, that was a bad first quarter.

I watched Freddie Kitchens off a buy this year. 13 penalties. Two coaches this weekend came off a buy. John Harbaugh, who is 10 and 2 all time, came out firing, 17-0 lead over New England, only four penalties. Dallas came out of a buy sluggish, 10 penalties, bad start, kind of not quite sure what their identity was. when I looked at Harbaugh schematically confused with a young quarterback Bill Belichick and I watch Jason Garrett with Dak who's now not really that young of a quarterback I think it's not a DAC issue because Dak was fine in the second half that's what worries me

about Dallas he's the lawyer that gets extra prep time still doesn't make a difference He's the kids studying twice as long for a midterm, and he still gets a C plus to a B minus. That's what worries me. I always look at college football coaches' bowl records. What are you when I give you a month to prepare? Lou Holtz, Barry Alvarez, Urban Meyer, Dabo Sweeney. The great coaches have great records off a buy. Extra time.

I mean, go look at Andy Reid's record off a buy. Belichick, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, all the coaches. coaches in the NFL, Pete Carroll, that you think are excellent schematic guys. I saw Kyle Shanahan off a by this year. He won 31 to 3. I saw Harbaugh off a buy. And by the way, Kyle Shanahan off a buy against the Cleveland team, that game was over four minutes in. And you felt like New England, Baltimore was over six minutes in, eight minutes in.

They'd taken total control. So that is what worries me about the Cowboys. Frank Reich this year. Would Jacoby Versette off a bye beat Deshaun Watson in Houston and really outploid? played him. So if you're going to complain about something, Dax, DAC is what he is. He's a good B quarterback. Jason Garrett, is it going to matter if he plays a wins the division, gets a buy, playoff game at home?

I don't feel like it helps him. He's a 500 coach off a bye. That worries me, and it's not going away. Now, Jerry talked this morning, Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys, talked this morning about what he thinks Dallas has to work on. I'll assure you that every individual out there, certainly as a position group, every position group, they're going to be working on focus, focus, focus, because everybody on this team knows that we've got a good team. And we've got a chance to really be right there competing with the very best as we get down the end of this thing. And a real good chance.

But we won't have a chance if we continue to make these mistakes. Yeah. Jason Gary worries me. I don't think he's bad. I mean, he's solid. And if you look at the last four coaches left in football last year, it was Belichick, Belichick, Sean Payton, Andy Reed and Sean McVeigh. Those were the four coaches left last year in football. The four last coaches. All A-Coches. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the I-Hard Radio app. Search Hurd. to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Heard hierarchy. Time is now, let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college. Number 10. Seattle, for the first time ever, this Pete Carroll team's about offense, not defense.

Russell Wilson has been my MVP. They lead the NFL in two-minute offense. Last 16 games, they're 13 and 3 without a great defense. I like that they added Jadavian Cloudy. I like that they added Josh Gordon. It gives them juice on both sides of the football. Pete Carroll, in the draft, is going to go out and have to improve the back end of this defense. I think that's what gets them eliminated, and they do get into a lot of close games.

But if you give me an A-plus at coach and an A-plus-at quarterback the way Russell Wilson, my MVP is playing, they make the list. They're 10. Number nine. Green Bay. There is now a way to beat Green Bay. That's why I'm dropping them to number nine. It's not about losing to the Chargers. Well, it kind of is.

It's about losing to Philly and the Chargers the same way. Pound them. Go right after them. Don't run away with them. Run away from them. Run at them. They're 26 in total defense. They're one in two when they don't force a turnover.

And it's not an intimidating defense. It's not a suffocating defense. It's opportunistic. It appears to be well-coached, but there is now a script on Green Bay. Run it, pound them, be aggressive, and they don't want to be in the octagon, Green Bay at 9. Number 8. Houston Texans, hate their secondary, but they're very good against the run. The problem is they force you to pass, and you can pass on them.

But let's be honest, they got up to a bad start last year. They were 0 and 3. But do you know what they are since then? They're 17 and 5, and they generally under Deshaun 1. and have been very good in November and December. Their third and total offense, many of you did not see the game in London this week. That was a go-either-way game that they absolutely dominated.

You know, listen, they don't have a GM. Their coach situationally can drive me nuts. But if you stop the run, they've done a nice job organizationally, two now legitimate running backs, nice perimeter weapons. I've got Houston at eight. Number seven.

Carolina. I really like them. I really do. I think they've got. great personnel. This is a team that leads the NFL in sacks and yet has one of the lowest blitz percentages. They got good personnel. Once again, Ron Rivera loses a star quarterback and they're well-coached enough like the Saints to go, okay, we got a backup. Let's just make it happen. This is not a cam issue. This is really fundamentally what I've always believed

about Carolina, that they're not beholding to Cam Newton. There are times he holds them back. I like the receivers. McCaffrey's a monster. Greg Olson's having a good. year. Their offensive line is average to above average and defensively once again. They get to the quarterback without blitzing. I've got Carolina at seven. Number six. Kansas City. Folks, they've played a tough schedule. They've played Minnesota's defense. They played Green Bay, Indianapolis, Baltimore. Some of these games are the backup quarterback. And they're in first place. And they're getting Patrick Mahomes back. And they just got Chris Jones back. And they just see how well he played. Okay, now they're getting healthy. Now Patrick's coming back. Now Chris Jones is back.

He's their best defensive player and their best offensive player. I think when you start looking at their schedule, they've lost a left tackle, their best defensive lineman and a quarterback. And this team, in every game, that Minnesota went on Sunday. That was impressive with a guy that was coach in high school football last year, Matt Moore. I like Kansas City and they're about to go on a roll. Number five. New England. They're really good. But here's the issue, and it's not going away. They're not dynamic enough on offense. Tom Brady's last six games. Think about this. Seven touchdowns, five picks, an 83 quarterback rating. There's nobody out there. They are totally dependent on Edelman and now Mohamed Sunu on third down. They have no over-the-top game.

They're on a third string left tackle and a backup center. They don't now have a dependable kicker. Their defense is really, really good. But at some point, you got to be able to get some cheap points. Does everything have to be at 11-play drive? They have to play perfect offensively. I mean, they really do. They just don't get any cheapies like Kansas City does.

They don't get any freebie where Lamar Jackson's spinning out of a tackle and running for 50 yards. I have New England five. Number four. Dallas Cowboys. Again, I don't know what you want. I don't love their coach, and I think that limits them in the playoffs. But they're number one in offense, number one in third down offense. They're four-and-o against the NFC East.

Michael Bennett, I thought last night, had four quarterback hits. That was a nice pickup. I like these teams that are willing to roll the dice and go out, and Michael Bennett may not be your favorite player. But again, last night, first game, exactly what I want from him. Am I worried that they came out flat off a by? Yes, I'm always worried about them. Jason Garrett's 5 and 5 off buys, but I have Dallas at 4.

Number 3. Baltimore. I think Baltimore's a lot like Dallas. They're not perfect, but I get a better coach. I really do. I think Baltimore reminds me a lot of Dallas. I get some really good individual players, but I just like them, winning a division, getting a home playoff game off a buy.

Their defense now is coming together. Now, we're paying a lot of attention to Lamar Jackson, and we should, but their defense now is coming together. It's seventh and total defense, ninth in scoring since week five. They go get Marcus Peters. And again, when you're a well-coached team, you get better over the season. Young defensive players are getting better. And they also have an identity.

Half this league doesn't have an identity. They are, we run the ball well, a lot right at you, Baltimore at three. Number two. New Orleans Saints. Only lost this year is the game Drew Breeze got hurt in. They're one of the, they're such a smart team. only six turnovers all year. They don't get penalized much.

They're excellent on third down. They're excellent situationally. I like their personnel. Now, there's the hole in their game. I wish they would have gone after Josh Gordon. They do not have much of a vertical passing game. They rely on Michael Thomas, and they cross their fingers for one big play of game from Teddy Ginn.

But I have them at two because I like so much about their structure and roster. number one. San Francisco and now they're about to have three straight home games. So with some of these ugly road games at Washington, at Pittsburgh, at Arizona, now they get Seattle, Arizona, Green Bay at home. They run the NFL ball 56% of the time, which is even greater than Baltimore. And what I loved about San Francisco, we all know their D-line's great. But this was the first week that their D-line wasn't dominant and their running game no-showed.

And they said, Jimmy G, we need you this week, bro. step up, win the game, and he was great. That gives them another layer. I have them, San Francisco at number one. By the way, I like Indy, I like Philly, and I like the Rams, and none of them made the list. So we got a pretty deep NFL. Those are three teams I like. I like Philly a lot.

I like the Rams. I like Indianapolis, but I can't put them in. So we have a Seattle, Green Bay, Houston, Carolina, Kansas City, New England, Dallas, Baltimore, New Orleans, San Francisco. I don't have Minnesota, but I don't like them. I think they're total fools' goal. What's up, everybody, John Middlecock, three-and-out podcast. Go subscribe. If you like football, that's all I talk.

Used to scout in the league. Now I talk about it for a living. The Dallas Cowboys Monday Night Football. Is this team real? The AFC North, the big boys and the little boys have started to separate themselves. The Eagles, the Chiefs, get a win. Jets and Shambles. We speak at all.

Even John Gruden. Again, three-and-out podcast with me, John Middlewood. I've been waiting for this all day. Akeb to leave. I remember watching him at Kansas. Then he went to Tampa, New England, Denver, Rams. First of all, it's an absolute pleasure to meet you. It's great to have you on.

You've got a million stories. You've been around a long time. Now, the first thing is you get traded from the Rams. You've been traded a couple of times. I've said this to Joy before. If I was traded for a sportscaster and a future sportscaster pick, I would be offended. It's the one thing that I, the idea that my value is you're less than this guy, you're more than that guy. When the Rams traded you, are you angry? Are you mad? Are you disappointed?

Our first look, Colin, look, when you get traded, someone don't want you. But at the same time, if you're a glass half full guy like me, someone do want you. At the very same time, someone don't want you, someone do want you. So I just, you don't want me who, he want me? That's who I want to go play for. I feel like I'll be very productive if I'm somewhere where I'm wanted, you know. So if you didn't want me, I don't want to be there. But I look at it like, it's part of our business. So I've been in the NFL 12 years and guys get traded.

I've seen hundreds of guys get traded. Great players. Great players get traded. So I feel like it was more. Calil Matt got traded. So I feel like if it was more in your business and it was like Colin, going to ESPN for, and you've seen. Stuart Scott's been traded in his life,

and you've seen all these guys who's been traded before. It'd be part of your business. It'd be more natural to you. I don't think you would be as offended. All right. That's fair enough. I get that. I want to talk about you had Belichick,

and then you had McVeigh. So you had thought of as sort of the NFL's greatest coach, and then the next great coach. Where were they the same? Let's start with that. Where are Sean and Bill the same? Where are Sean and Bill the same? I say what jumps off the first thing I think about is their leadership, man.

They're great leaders. When those guys get in the front of a room, no one to be texting, no one to be doing this and talking and, hey, Joy. Nah, but I've been around here, coaches where guys, we've got a team meeting and they're laughing and guys like this and texting. Guys can't hold the attention of 60 grown. men. That's what you have to be able to do. You have to be able to stand in front of the room and have the attention of 60 grown men and make those guys buy into what you're trying to make

them buy into. Okay, now where are they different? Where was that? And it's not a bad thing, but where are the differences? It's not a lot of differences, Colin. I think they very similar as leaders, as head coaches. The difference is little things like Sean is super offensive-minded. You know what I'm saying? He knows the defense, but when we're going to going there in the morning, he's, he's focused on getting the offense right for the week. Whereas in Bill, Bill, Bill is defensive-minded. He's focused on getting the defense right for the week. So, you know, you'll see Bill in a lot more defensive meetings, talking to a lot more

defensive guys, and Sean to be just the opposite. He's more on the offensive side of football. By the way, Bill Bark, or was Bill a teacher ever bark at you? Or did he stick you down and go, Keith? This is what I want you to do. The most I heard Bill Yale is, like, on the sideline at a game. The stuff that you see on TV, like, man, they're doing this and we have to say. at the edges.

And, you know, just, that's the most he yell. I don't really see them yell at guys in practice. If you screwing up in practice, he'll simply tell you, get them out of there, take off. Go get you a lap or something, get your mind right. Bill don't do too much hollering, man. He don't do too much yelling at guys. You've played against great quarterbacks. You've played with great quarterbacks.

So let's talk about, let's go back to you come into the league. You're an All-American at Kansas. Now, that happens in basketball all the time. It doesn't happen in football much. I felt like a basketball. player at Kansas. I got a lot of love, Colin. So you come to Tampa. So now you got Drew Breeze. Drew Breeze. So you were a guy in college. People didn't want any part of you. They didn't even throw to your side. Tell me how great Drew Breeze is. Drew Breeze, college. All right, so like

you said, I come from high school, no touchdowns. College, I made a couple, few touchdowns scored on me, barely deep balls. So I'm playing a nickel, starting a nickel, coming in the game, playing outside, Rondei Barber moves to the inside and play the nickel. So it's our first game. I think maybe first game or a second game or something. NFL career. NFL career. Maybe our second game.

Maybe I don't know, Colin. I'm in the league 12 years. Yeah, I know. So I think we're in covered three or something like that. And Drew Brees, boom, he lets a seven route go. And I'm looking at it like, I just know Drew Brees didn't throw me this. And it just stayed in the air and it stayed in the air and barely missed my fingers. I jump in.

Woo. Money balls. So I think Devery Henderson, I want to say. Touchdown? Touchdown. The dome went crazy. It was my welcome to the NFL moment. Welcome to one of the most accurate passes in NFL history.

He definitely welcomed me to the NFL with that seven-round touchdown. Now, most quarterbacks you have faced are not Drew Brees. Let's talk about the quarterbacks you've faced this year. All right. A guy I've been critical of, Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield. I think he's growing. He's growing in the league.

I think my honest opinion, I think the game is moving fast to him. You know, it's, you young. I was a young cornerback in the league before. The game moves fast all the way until year six or seven. Really? That's when you really could take a breath and be like, okay, this is really, really slowing down to me now. So I can't imagine playing quarterback. He looked overwhelmed when you played him.

He got Aaron Donald. We got a pretty good defense. I ain't going to lie. We got a pretty good defense, a great pass rush. So he had guys in his face. And I just think as he mature in the NFL, he'll be able to go through his reads more. He's more of a one-reed guy. He's going to read right now and start scrambling.

And he could work on the scrambling. The scrambling is always to the right. We had it in our game plan. He's going to scramble to the right. He's going to look at a receiver and he's going to scramble to the right. So our rush plan was gage for somebody to scramble to the right. So when we're looping guys, we looping guys to our left so they can meet him when he scrambles to the right. type thing. So we said, by the way, we said that on this show. We kept saying,

if you ever noticed he scrambles to one side. He scrambled straight to the right. You look at our game, it had to be at least about 20 times, scrambled to the right. Yeah. Okay. Now let's talk about quarterbacks you've played with. Brady's not the biggest, the strongest, but you faced him in practice, you saw his leadership. What jumped off the page? Obviously, you know, he's got a great coach, but there are things that you were like watching him and just thinking he's different. Right. I could just remember my routines being in New England and, and, and, and, you know, And just walking in the building, Tom is always there.

I mean, you don't want to come in, he's the first guy in, first guy out. That's, everyone says that, but it's honestly true with Tom. And I just think his, his flow of the day never changed. It was, it was always positive. You always seem positive. He'd come over there, says a little joke. It was the same time in the building every day. And his routine was just as a, just like a coach's routine.

It never changed. It never stopped. He always went into the same warm-up. It was that routine, man, that just breathes confidence. So when you just do that routine, that routine, that routine, you get in the game. And it's like you did it already, you know. That's a great point. It's like you did.

It's like you already played this game. You said something very interesting Sunday on our show. I really liked it. You said, we got to give these young quarterbacks time. Right. You said the fans don't get continuity. Go into that. They don't, I mean, it's continuity.

it's like, it's like being a tech, a tech worker. And your job is to explain. If somebody got a problem with the software, I'm the guy who they come to and I correct them, right? So boom, I come to this job. And now this, my teacher is teaching me how to work this software, how to work this software, how to work this software. All right, so I'm learning.

Boom, they send me over to the next tech company. So now I'm learning how to work a new software. And God's come to me, Joy, you come to me. I'm like, okay, I kind of know. but I kind of just start learning this software. So then they fire everybody else, and then a new guy comes into my building, and he got a new software.

So now I'm learning the new software that I got to put out and teach everybody. Whereas in, if I come to this job, my one teacher is teaching me this software. Four years, five years, six years. By year six, they're going to be ready to fire this guy, they're going to be ready for me to be the teacher. You know, I just got more repetitions

in the same, same software, and I'm going to be better as natural. I'm going to be better at it. I'll be better at sitting here talking in his mic if I did it every day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's just those repetitions and those repetitions doing the same thing over and over and over again. You're going to be more comfortable in it.

You're going to be better at it. It's a fact. Akeb Taleb joining us. A lot of people have been critical of Jared Goff. Again, be as honest as you can. You liked him. I love Jared Goff, honestly. What do you see at practice?

Money bars. Overrides. It's like John Elway highlights in practice. It's like deep balls, money balls, double moves. Ah, whew, money ball. It's like he got one of the best deep balls. Oh, he throws up. Most accurate, best deep balls that I've seen in a long time.

And then he's smart. He's one of those guys who's in one of those unique situations where he got his tech teacher is the owner of the company. And he's not going nowhere, right? So, you know what I'm saying? He's going to be able to learn that system and learn that system and master that system. So I remember in practice one time. I had a nice vet day.

I don't have to practice today. Nice vet day. So Sean wanted to put me to work. He said, we're doing two minutes today, and you call in the two minute. All right. I said, all right, I got it. And Jared, you calling it for the offense. So it was me versus Jared.

We was the coordinators. I won. Just get that out the way. They didn't score. They didn't score. My defense won. But Jared just looked so comfortable. It was like, I didn't know if Sean was called in the plays or if Jared was

called in the players because it was the same. routine in the same reps that shine to do. You know what I'm saying? Right. So that just goes to show me that he's growing super, super comfortable in this offense. And criticize him all you want, man. Jared's going to be one of the elite guys for a long time in this league. Akeeb to leave.

All right, a couple of quick questions. Toughest receiver. It's funny, I was asking Charles Woodson about this one time. I said, who's the toughest receiver that I would never guess? He goes, I hated guarding Ed McCaffrey. He said he's angles. He had long speed and just his body. Has there ever been a receiver in this league that gives you trouble?

Just did I hate guarding? Julian Edelman, he cuts off his inside foot. He'll go this way. And he's supposed to be like a left foot stick and go this way. But he a right foot stick. It's crazy. His feet is so weird. He changed directions.

And then what's put the ice in the way. on the cake, he got Tom Brady and they, like, joined at the hip or something, joined at the head. They're like, he knows when they're throwing the ball. He knows when they wait a little bit longer and let him get to the second window. And it's just weird.

It's weird. He's run his rocks. He's not the fastest guy. No. He's not the quickest guy. But he's super strong. You won't have to tackle him once he catch it and just knowing which way he's going to break

is super weird. Okay, is there a great receiver that you felt you matched up well with, the Julio Jones type that you really felt, listen, I can shut him down as well as anybody. Well, I say the toughest cover, the toughest cover who I probably was super successful against was probably Calvin Johnson. I followed Calvin Johnson two games, and he probably was the best receiver that I guarded. I mean, I spent numerous hours trying to watch him and get prepared for those games. But I think I was pretty successful, probably 70 yards.

Big, big receiver. You get under him a little bit? I just, he more jump balls. I never worried about jump balls. I'm 6'1. I never worried about the jump deep balls way. He did jump over me one time and scored a touchdown for like a quick four-yard touchdown. That's fine.

I jumped my highest, Colin, and I couldn't do nothing with him. That's okay. He's 6'7. He's got a little edge. But I think, but I think just his quickness, his speed and his ball skills, put him over everybody. Akeeb Taleb. It's been an absolute pleasure.

I was waiting for this all day. Okay, finally. So Packers come in to Los Angeles, and Aaron Rogers says, we got here on Friday, we got to be in a little better mindset. What he's insinuating is, La Land got him. A lot young guys went out, went to Nobu, and whatever they did. And you know the NFL circuit. Have you ever been in a team or faced a team that you thought L.A. ate them up or Miami ate them up?

Or, by the way, Tampa's a party city. Do you ever, you ever on one of those teams? I've definitely been part of a team where we land in Miami and we go. So you know, your resort on Sunday, you know, I think about your resort on Sunday when you land in Miami at 2.30 p.m. Friday? Friday, 2.30 p.m. You're in Miami. So you're like, if I was in my plan city, I might go out and have dinner and have a drink or two. So why not in Miami? So, you know, one drink's trying to six and you're a little tired on Saturday and that kind of carry over to Sunday.

So I've definitely been a part of those teams. And I've seen teams come to places like even Denver. You know what I'm saying? Recreational stuff in Denver, guys come and they'd be a little bit tired. You know, they'd be a little bit tired in the game. I don't know if it's the altitude or it's the recreational. But, you know, it's some cities when you go, you just got to experience what they're known for. New Orleans.

New Orleans. You just got to experience what they're known for. You're going to go out and eat. You may eat. It might not even be alcohol. You can go out and eat a greasy bowl of. gumbo and just don't feel right on Sunday because you don't usually do that. You know what I'm saying?

I totally know. So it's real part of our league and, you know, coaches even do it. Sometimes coaches like we play in Miami, we play in L.A. We're traveling on Saturday. We get the early Saturday morning and try to get into them. Some coaches don't travel two days to the old states just for that reason. Good stuff. Good stories, man.

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