The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/11/2019

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

Colin says the issue with the Cowboys is not Dak Prescott, its Jason Garrett. He thinks the Chiefs are built to win Patrick Mahomes MVP trophies but not Championships. He admits where he was right and wrong over the weekend including a big whiff on LSU/Alabama. Plus, Super Bowl Champion Trent Dilfer talks about Dak Prescott's progression, the NFL moving towards mobile QBs and he calls one QB draft prospect the best he's ever seen. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go. Veterans Day live in L.A. This is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1, one hour from now on a Monday, where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,

plenty of both on a Monday, packed today. It's to be the show of the week. Joy Taylor is joining me. Joy, how are you? I'm great. Good morning. Happy Veterans Day. Happy Veterans Day. Thanks so much for everybody. Guys at Fox had a great job yesterday. Terry, Kurt, Howie, Jay, shray-handed. It was just an amazing show. Jimmy Johnson was great yesterday up at West Point. I want to start with this. Not all losses are bad losses. That was a great loss for the Cowboys last night. And I'll explain why. There's this sense with the Dallas Cowboys. You know, we're pretty good. We can win a division here. But there's this ceiling thing. And, okay, we, you know, we can win a division. Maybe we can win a home playoff game, but we just can't win

multiple. We can't get to Super Bowls. We can't get into championship. What in the world is our ceiling? And last night, in front of the owner, in front of you and me in America on Sunday night football. It was established what the ceiling is. The ceiling is the coach, Jason Garrett. Paydack, he is not the problem. He was excellent last night. Darts, athletic, cool, calm, nerves of steel. When you face excellence in life, in any business, it doesn't matter if it's law or landscaping, when you face excellence, it creates clarity. Because average people, get exposed. Average lawyers, average educators,

average coaches, average quarterbacks, average salespeople get exposed against great. And Minnesota is, that's the best roster in the NFL. I mean, seriously, two tight ends, two receivers, Delvin Cook, defensive front. Dak didn't get exposed. Dak was great.

Dak is getting better. If you wake up this morning, you're a cowboy fan, you're like, totally controlled the line of scrimmage. spotting guys, changing plays, poised, athletic, accurate, moving, with no running game. But Jason Garrett against excellence. Last year against the Rams and the playoffs, never adjusted. Last night, cruddy play calling late. The Vikings, they're running screens.

You may want to work on it. Minnesota came in with a game plan. Did the same game plan for three and a half hours. Didn't change anything. They never put any heat on Kirk Cousins. They literally controlled Kirk Cousins. The Minnesota staff's like, we got a lead, we come out. Once again, Dallas has a bad game plan, falls behind, DAC with no running game.

You wake up this morning. Think about this. You wake up this morning as a cowboy fan. And weren't you watching that game last night? And when Dallas was coming back and they handed the ball to Zeke at the end of the game, you were thinking this. The hell are you doing? Dax on fire.

What are you taking the ball to Dax's hands for? You have never felt that before. You've been convincing yourself for the last three years. This is Zeeks' team. And I've never bought into that. I said it when Zique was holding out. This is Dax team. Dack isn't as refined early in his career as Zique.

Zik walks into this league and was great day one. It happens. Dack wasn't. Dack needed the line. Dack needed to grow. Frankly, it's harder to play quarterback in this league than running back. Dak needed time. Now he's been given time.

You watched that game last night. As a cowboy fan, you were furious when they took the ball to Dax's hands. You were not two years ago. I'm not sure you were last year. This is Dax's team. And last night, we established. Dax's not the problem. That's a franchise quarterback.

Directing traffic, calling plays, nerves of steel, no running game from behind against an excellent coach. an excellent defensive coach, Mike Zimmer. So that's as good as you can feel off a loss. And oh, by the way, the other thing that is, you know, Tom Brady has spent 19 years deflecting problems. It's a gift, by the way. It is a gift if you run a company or run a football team to go to the podium after tough Sundays and always say the right thing. The best I've ever seen at it is Tom Brady.

DAC, maybe second best. Here's what he said about the play calling, which was terrible. Second and third down calls. You went two straight runs, and you guys had to go in to the last game. They kind of take the ball out of your hands there? I mean, you've got to go back and look at the situation, right? You don't want to leave too much time on the clock for them. So I'm not going to question the play calling.

There were opportunities. We've just got to do better and execute those plays. Simple as that. And every guy in that locker room would say that. That's as good as you can do the microphone. That's as good as you can do. That's what Tom Brady. That's what Tom Brady's been doing for 18 years.

And in Dallas, is there a bigger position in American sports than Dallas Cowboy quarterback? Let's start with no one work from there. I thought last night I left that game and I was like, you know. And you know, it's funny about that. I said on Friday, I said he's better than Kirk Cousins. The gap is much bigger, much, much bigger. And I'll get to that.

about 10 minutes than I even thought. Let's shift to this. Patrick Mahomes is remarkable. That's been established. Some things in life have been established. Cigarettes are bad for you, Rushland and Boz conservative. We have established these things. Years ago, we established Aaron Rogers was amazing.

But we also, as we established Patrick Mahomes is amazing, can we now acknowledge the Kansas City Chiefs with Mahomes are becoming Aaron Rogers Packers or LeBron James Cavaliers the first time? Okay, Patrick, you go be amazing. If you're not, we're going to lose. And even if you are, we'll mostly win, but we can't guarantee you'll be able to beat Ryan Tannahill and the Titans. Kansas City's reality is they can't stop the run, and they don't run enough.

They're 31st in stopping the run, and their bottom five in run attempts. That's their reality. And Patrick Mahomes has lost three of his last four starts. That's their reality. Okay, it's been established. He's absurdly filthy talented. I get it.

And I kept saying that about Aaron Rogers. Okay, I get it. But you want a special quarterback. Nobody would dispute that. You want special. But it can't be your only identity. That was the Packers problem from like 2011 and 2018. Is that Aaron's great.

That mostly wins. If he's not, we're doomed. And if he is, hopefully as the ball late and the defense is, isn't giving a, you know, less-tounded quarterback the win. Ryan Tannehill just beat Patrick Mahomes. It felt like some of those Green Bay losses. You'll say, well, Aaron Rogers won a Super Bowl. Yeah, but didn't we always say the same thing about that?

They left a lot of meat on that bone. Shouldn't they have like two Super Bowls, three? How come Aaron's only got one? And maybe Kansas City and Mahomes sneak and get one. And we're going to be like 10 years in. That's it. I mean, this is the thing. again, you want special at quarterback,

but it can't be your only identity. Lamar Jackson special. Great coach, great running game, improving defense. Tom Brady has never, ever, ever been the sole identity of Tampa, of New England. Brady's never been the sole identity. In fact, the first five years, first couple of Super Bowls, he was a system quarterback.

By the way, Russell Wilson is unbelievable. But in those Super Bowl years, he was just trying to be, be a tiny part of Seattle's identity. It was Marshawn Lynch. It was the Legion of Doom. It was Pete Carroll. He's like, hey, what about me? Mahomes is Kansas City's identity.

You can't do that in this league. I don't care how great you are. We watched it with Aaron Rogers. They couldn't run with Aaron. They couldn't make stops with Aaron Rogers. Lamar Jackson, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson. I mean, by the way, Jimmy Garoppolo, you're going to watch him tonight. It's terrific.

But the identity is the defensive line. and then Kyle Shanahan, and then their fullback-led running game, and they got a lot of identities. And about three times a year, San Francisco is going to ask Jimmy Garoppolo, bruh, defense is, we got injuries over here and we can't run the football. Win it for us. Like Kansas City, you can just sense what's happening. It's the 2011 Packers to the 2018 Packers.

It's too Mahom-centric. He's losing starts now to inferior quarterbacks. And it never forget this. When Brady, and remember with the Randy Moss, Wes Welker Brady teams, they were setting all the records. Those teams never won Super Bowls. Kansas City right now is set up to win Mahomes MVP awards. They're not set up to win Super Bowl.

So what do you want? And I think the answer is obvious. It's been established. Mahomes is absurd. He's going to make $40 million, which he deserves it, But if you think he's carrying the team now, what happens when you've got to get rid of Tyreek Hill or a right tackle or your second best corner?

I just think they can't stop the run. They don't run enough. And they feel very much like LeBron in Cleveland first time. And even the second time where you're like one title, that's all I get. I just get more. Kyrie and LeBron and Kevin Love and I get one title and that's it. They won two in Miami and almost three. I like Kansas City, fun to watch, but it feels like to me they're set up to get the quarterback MVP's and not rings.

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Dak is several steps ahead. My bad. I thought they were like right next to each other. And I'll give me an example. If you look at the stats last night, you're like, oh, man, look at Kirk Cousins. There was never a moment in that football game. No reasonable person watched that football game. And as you're watching Minnesota's offense, you're thinking, man, Kirk Cousins is controlling the cowboys.

You are saying, Delvin Cook is a beast. Kyle Rudolph, guy, forget how good he is. Stefan Diggs, man, they got a lot of talent. Okay, 23 of 32, 111 passer rating, no picks, two touchdowns. You're looking at him and you're like, oh, man, what a night. But after a very good game plan gets him a 14-0 lead, Kirk Cousins made a series of throws on play action because the running game was so good and had been established

and he's leading in the game. So he was never uncomfortable. They rolled him out, a lot of screen stuff, play action throws, very comfortable. Everybody in this league looks good like that. Dak trailed 14-0. Minnesota's pass rushers pin their ears back. He had no run support. He was making incredible throws.

I think half his throws to Amari Cooper are out of bounds. They're so perfectly timed. They were asking Dak to throw trailing, throw against a better defense, throw with no running game, control a defense that could pin its ears back, DAC's stats. He didn't get a throw-on play action because it had been established early.

Dallas couldn't run the ball. So as a linebacker, I don't have to drop, I don't have to come up and cheat. You're not running the football. Dallas linebackers had to cheat all night because Delvin Cook is so great. So, you know, again, once again, DAC has to overcome what I view

as a subpar opening game plan, no running game, not as many play action throws, much more difficult throws, having to run a little bit more out of necessity, not game planning. I think the gap between Dak and Kirk Cousins. Now, I'm not saying Kirk Cousins doesn't deserve respect for following through with a conservative game plan once he gets elite. I'm not saying that. Kirk was not poor. But don't just look at numbers on this. Go look at what the quarterbacks were asked to do. leads one trails. One has a great running game. One doesn't. One's running for his life out of necessity.

One is rolling out because it's game planned. I thought DAC was spectacular. I thought Kirk Cousins managed the game really well with a couple of nice throws. Never really pushed, never uncomfortable. I mean, you know, it's quarterback in the NFL. It's uncomfortable for everybody at some point, except I guess Lamar Jackson, who's a magician. But, you know, it's a hard position to play. But if you look at Dack's numbers, 2846, 400 yards, three touchdowns. Two receivers had over 100 yards. Here's something to remember. DAC completed 21 balls to wide receivers.

Kirk Cousins, six. I don't want to hear about the stats, and I don't want to hear about who won the game. Dak, Kirk Cousins, and it's not as close as I said it was Friday. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays and noon Easter. 9 a.m. Pacific. Sometimes in your life, there are just simply new realities. I live in California. Our gas is $4.5 a gallon. I can complain about it. That's my new reality. If I don't want to spend a lot of money on gas, I got to drive, I got a hitchhike, I got to walk, but that's my new reality.

You know, going to an airport now, lines are longer, economies good, more people are flying, security measures have been heightened over the last 10 years. The new reality, you can complain about it all you want, but the new reality is get to an airport earlier. So I'm watching Tua and Joe Burroughs on Saturday, but specifically Tua. I'm watching Sam Darnold yesterday. I'm watching Kyler Murray. I'm watching Lamar Jackson. And I'm watching DAC last night.

The new reality is we've got to stop treating quarterback like an either or. Either you've got a pocket guy or I've got a mobile athlete. I want both. I'm not interested in statues. We have a new reality in this league and you're really seeing it this weekend. outside of the Dallas Cowboys, there are very few elite offensive lines. And the Cowboys drafted their offensive line from places like LSU, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, power running teams. And a lot of those offensive linemen have been in the league seven years.

College football is no longer a power running. LSU throws the ball of the field. Alabama throws the ball of the field. Clemson, these are traditional power running. They're throwing the ball of the field. because of that, the offensive linemen in college football now are all in these spread offenses. They're not road graders. So offensive line play is deteriorating badly in this league.

We thought the Rams had a good old line two years ago. It's a mess. I mean, there's Dallas and there's everybody else. And I'm watching old Philip Rivers Thursday night. I'm watching Jared Gough. I'm watching Breeze. And those guys, I mean, if they don't have an offensive line, they're not the same player. being elusive now.

I'm watching Sam Darnold yesterday. The Jets offensive line is a tragedy. He is just making stuff happen out of nothing. Now, Lamar Jackson played against Cincinnati, but I mean, Donald was spectacular. Kyler Murray yesterday, running for his life, that game is a blowout without Kyler Murray. I am blown away by him.

And Donald and Kyler Murray, Donald's numbers, if you didn't watch that game, you have no understanding of it. Even his best plays running for his life. Kyler Murray got jobbed at the end of that game. There was a pass interference they didn't call. Arizona should have had a chance to win that game late. I'm not even looking for either or anymore.

If my pocket guy can't move, I'm out. And, I mean, you watch the Chargers and you're like, that doesn't work anymore. And it's easy to say you're overreacting. I don't think I am. Now, I still like Jared Goff. But because they spent so much money on Todd Gurley early and Goff and Brandon Cooks and Jalen Ramsey, very much. soon, they're not going to be able to have an elite offensive line.

And so I'm watching that Saturday LSU Bama game, and I'm like, Joe Burroughs, yeah, the throwing part's great. But the fact that he's an all-state basketball player and he can move around, I'm like, Washington's got a great quarterback. You've got to be able to move now. We have a new reality in the NFL. Offensive line play stinks. And the Cowboys is the exception.

And they got their guys mostly from power running football teams that don't mostly, don't don't mostly exist in college football. When LSU Bama get into a shootout, college football is officially changed. Nick Saban can't stop anybody now with a good quarterback. He can't stop anybody. So that's one thing. And by the way, ask yourself this. What's easier to do?

Fix your offensive line with five guys or just draft a kid that can move around a little bit and teach him like Lamar and Dak. Okay, I need you to be a little more of a pocket guy because I saw Dak in college. I thought he was Tebow with a better arm. Dax getting better. We're going to give you the weapons. We're going to run the football a little bit. It's like social media. Stay current or you disappear. You've got to stay current. And I'm seeing an NFL league right now. Donald and Kyler Murray yesterday, we're sensational. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. So we do it on Monday. I have strong opinions. That's what I do. But I think I have to hold myself accountable.

So we call it Colin Wright, Colin wrong over the last week or two. Here we go. Where Colin was right. Ian Rappaport reports Cam Newton is likely to be traded from Carolina and we call this one. They've got a new owner. They want a new direction. Cam had lost eight, nine straight starts. He feels distracted. Injuries have piled up. I don't think Kyle Allen's a special quarterback town. I think he's a very good transitional quarterback. You could possibly win a division if you're not paying Kyle Allen anything and can surround him with the right pieces. But as the injuries have piled up and he is not a precision thrower and the league often demands

it, now I will say the good news for Cam is if Patrick Mahomes makes 40, he's going to make about 25. There's a bargain value here for some lousy teams. But this feels like the new owner sort of doesn't care about the past. Too inconsistent, too hurt. They're moving off Cam. Where Colin was wrong. Mike Tomlin, if they make the playoffs, does he get coach of the year?

No A-B, no Lavian Bell, no Big Ben. I bailed on him. I said season's over, not interested. They have done an unbelievable job. They have an identity. And their front seven defensively, this organization can flat-out draft people. Mason Rudolph, not my cup of tea. But I thought yesterday on third down and situationally, he was very good.

Mike Tomlin deserves, and I've been critical of him, that he's too emotional. his teams can be, you know, dumb penalties and not buttoned up. This may be his best coaching job. How many people can he lose? I mean, by the way, even the best part of his team defense, it's a bunch of kids. I mean, the front seven is just a bunch of kids. And right now they'd be the second wild card team in the AFC. Good for Mike Tomlin.

Where Colin was right. But I did love when the Steelers went and got Minka Fitzpatrick for her first rounder, and they got a lot of heat. People said, well, Big Ben's hurt. You need that first round pick to get a quarterback. And I said, no, no, no, no, no. A, Minka Fitzpatrick is great. B, he plays a position they've been trying to fill for years.

And C, this franchise has always been about playmaking defensive guys. And Mika Fitzpatrick has more touchdowns than Odell Beckham this year. And you have no guarantees in the first round what you're going to get. I mean, a third of the first round, either busts or underachieves. He's a remarkable player. He fits their culture. he's going to get paid and should get paid. And by the way, you're not paying any of the other young defensive players

because you've drafted so well. The rest of them are on the cheap. So you've got to pay somebody. And I would pay Big Ben and pay my offensive line and I'd pay Minka Fitzpatrick. We love the deal. I have no problem giving up a first round pick. If I get a guy that fits my culture, makes plays,

and is unbelievable, and he's all of them. Where Colin was wrong. Wow, did I miss on LSU Bama? Nick Saving against Ed Ors-Rs-Rond off a buy. first of all, LSU was better early, better middle, and better late. And LSU now is not only throwing the ball, but they're a hyper-aggressive passing offense. Saban off a by was completely overwhelmed, and this is becoming a trend for Nick Saban. Six weeks to prepare for Clemson, doesn't matter.

Off a buy against LSU, when he faces a Trevor Lawrence or to Sean Watson or a Joe Burrow, who's a first round quarterback, the game has changed. Alabama can't stop him. Joe Burrow got himself a Heisman and got himself a top 10 pick. And Ed Orgeron, let me tell you something. There is not a college coach in America that feels more like his school than Ed Orgeron feels with Louisiana and LSU. He will never leave LSU, ever, at least on his accord.

I was totally wrong on that game. LSU used to be great but boring. They're a blast to watch now. Where Colin was right? Told you three weeks ago, I said that Eagle Cowboy game, it's not the end of the world. Philadelphia is going to be fine with a loss, and Dallas hasn't secured anything with a win.

Here we are three weeks later, and they're tied at the top of the NFC East. Listen, Dallas isn't great enough to pull away, and Philadelphia is too good to be blown away. I think Dallas is, to be honest with it, Deshawn Jackson's done for the year, so I'm more on the Dallas. side now that I'm on the Philadelphia side. But neither team is great enough to pull away from the

other. I don't think either is San Francisco. I don't think either is really New Orleans, despite what you saw yesterday. So we said this. Philadelphia and Dallas are going to week 16 and week 17. If you look at their schedule, Philadelphia has now got New England. They'll probably lose that. Dallas has Detroit. So Dallas will probably pull ahead by a game. But if you look at the schedule, this thing was never over when they met three weeks ago, and it's not going to be over after this weekend. Where Colin was wrong. Listen, I like Jared Gough, but he and McVeigh,

we've got to put it on pause here. Because of what they've paid in Los Angeles and what they're going to pay for Jalen Ramsey, they got offensive line issues. Goff is not athletic enough to overcome a bad interior offensive line and no running game. He looks vulnerable.

At times he looks overwhelmed. He made several horrible throws yesterday, and they're locked in on him. Now, I do believe if you give him protection, his prototype is Matt Ryan. I think he actually throws a better deep ball than Matt Ryan. I think he's talented. I don't think suddenly he's terrible. But I've been high on Jared Goff, and he's been exposed as their offensive line issues have come to the forefront. Where Colin was right?

The Titans are now 3 in 1 after moving off Marcus Marietta, who to me was hurt too much had an incredibly low ceiling and is a nonverbal guy at a verbal position. Listen, Ryan Tannahill is just better than we all think. You know, Ryan Tannahill's career record in the league is 45 and 47, and that's with a lot of chaos in Miami. This franchise kept trying to convince itself. They could just squeeze a little more offense at a Marcus Mario, and it's like, no, Ryan Tannyhill's better.

Ryan Tanyhill's a better player than, and yesterday you saw it. By the way, three of the four games, he's led them, Tannihill has on a game-winning drive. He was a, by the way, you're not getting. less athleticism. Tanniel's a very good athlete. He was a receiver in college. So he's a real big-time athlete. He gives you mobility. He doesn't get, he's got one big injury. He doesn't get hurt a lot. He's a very good player and the Titan should have moved off this. I mean, to me, I think I said this on the show. If I'd have had Tanyhill and Mariotta in camp, I'd have just gone with Tannahill.

I mean, you'd given Mariota all the time you had to, what did he have to show you? Tanniel's a better player, and we've seen it. Where Colin was wrong. I was like the rest of the media dummies, where when John Gruden traded Khalil Mack, I said, that's a terrible move. Because my theory is, you're in a division with Patrick Mahomes. You can't get rid of your only pass rusher. But you know what?

I got to give Gruden credit. He had a plan. He's hit on his draft picks. You know, Khalil Mack, I don't think, was in love with the Gruden situation. And Gruden probably thought, all right, I got to get guys who buy into my thing. And he's done a very good job.

Offensively, they've hit on their running back. They hit on their tight end. almost all their offensive pieces. Richie Incognito, their free agents, their draft picks. And in the end, they don't have a pass rush. And we don't think they're a Super Bowl team. But they wouldn't have been a Super Bowl team with Khalil Mack and without Josh Jacobs, the running back,

who they got because of the trade. So, you know, at the end of the day, Chicago got a great player. But Oakland got great players who are young and cheap. And I think the Gruden thing's working. I was a little too hyperbolic and I was wrong. Where Colin was right? And I said this a couple weeks ago, you can be winless and well-coached.

If you are tanking, Miami Dolphins were winless, and I said, no, no, no, don't tell me they're not well-coached. They're just winless. There's a difference. Does any team in the league, I mean, how many games have they led in? Their game plans are great. They don't, you know, they have a roster mostly of backups and average guys. But this is a well-coached team that plays its butt off,

that takes leads in a lot of games that goes on the road. Miami teams you never trust on the road in November. They totally brian to Brian Flores. I think we found the Belichick guy who's going to work. They play hard. They have absolute limitations offensively. But this idea that you can have a team that's losing, but they're not well coached,

listen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, we got a ceiling here. That offensive line, we got a ceiling here defensively. They need more players. But we said it a few weeks ago, when they were winless. That team has a direction. They're playing with a porpoise. I know a bad joke, but it's ours. And frankly, they're in all these games. They took a lead on Dallas. I mean, they're in games. They just run out of gas. Where Colin was wrong. Lamar Jackson. You know, listen, I said he was draftable. I just said the passing thing is going to be more,

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That is fantastic. A decade and a half in the NFL, my friend, Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, Trent Dillfer, via the Coward Global Satellite Network at Lipscom Academy head football coach now. You've got one. You're not Belichick yet. Don't go crazy. You've got a playoff win. Don't go crazy yet.

So let's start with this. There are, I think average people get overwhelmed against excellent people. And I think Minnesota is excellent. And DAC against an excellent. defense I thought was sensational last night with no running game, not a lot of play action stuff. He had to save their bacon. Jason Garrett, I didn't like to play calling. I don't want to beat up on that.

Didn't make adjustments. I thought Minnesota kind of did what they did and they did it for three and a half hours, the screen game. I think there was clarity last night for Dallas. If we're going to bark about the ceiling, I worry more about the coach than the quarterback. That's my takeaway from last night. Any of that you buy? I completely buy the quarterback stuff.

I too thought Dak was phenomenal. I thought he showed the fullness of who he can be as an NFL quarterback. He showed all the talent stuff, the arm strength, the accuracy. He showed the creativeness. He showed the ability to extend plays, show toughness, and go on and on and on. I'll push back on the Jason Garrett stuff. I think it's more a defensive staff thing. I think defensively, they haven't made adjustments since the playoffs last year where they got ran over.

And it's the same schemes that keep beating them. It's the outside zone. It's a physical downhill ISO play off the outside zone. It's movement passed by the quarterback and it screams. And it's the same stuff over and over and over again that is getting this defense torch. They're a talented defense, but they're kind of a one-trick pony. They got to get up field. They got to hit the quarterback.

They got to create back fuel pressure. But if you neutralize that, then they don't get a lot of stops. And I know Rod Marinelli really well. And I think he probably understands the same thing. And he's back on the drawing board today saying, until we can do that, until we can play the knockback game, not just the speed game, it's going to be a long season for that defense. I want to talk about, so I don't want to overreact to this, but we have a new reality in our life where college football is doing a lot of spread

and the offensive linemen come into this league and they're not the bulldozers, they were even seven, eight years ago. Even LSU and Bama now is a shootout. I mean, that's when college football has changed. And I'm watching Darnold yesterday make plays and Kyler Murray and Lamar and Dak and Mahomes. And I think I used to be an either-or guy.

You're a pocket guy or you're a move guy. And I'm like, no, you've got to be elusive now. Like I can't have one of the other, or I think less of you. Am I overreacting to a crazy day of mobile quarterbacks yesterday? No, I don't think so. We've been talking about this for four, five, six years now. A couple of things happened.

And I'll just say 10 years ago. When I jumped into Elite 11 in the kind of high school camp series, we saw two things that were starting to happen. Number one, offensive linemen were losing knockback. So because of spread, because of two-point stances, because tight ends not being attached next to the tackle, because more of a lateral run game, offensive linemen started losing that ability to knock you back.

So we just call it knockback football. Low hat football has kind of disappeared from the offensive line play nationwide. Along on that time, we also saw a bunch of quarterbacks to be at these camps. Say from six years ago, 10 years ago, you'd show up there'd be 50 quarterbacks at a camp. You know what they'd be? They'd be six, three. They'd be lanky, a little uncoordinated, not the best athlete at the school, but they want to be a quarterback.

usually a rich dad, usually a good high school football coach, and that was kind of who your camp series was. Well, about six, five, four years ago, we start going to these camps. You know what you found? The best athlete at the school is playing quarterback. The best athlete, he's big, he's physical, he's fast, he's twitchy, he can throw, he's been trained well, he is the dude.

He's the dude of dudes. And I think now what you're seeing in the NFL is an offensive line generation that isn't as physical. And you have the best athlete who's been trained to play quarterback all these years and he's the guy with the football. And what you're going to get out of that

is a more mobile athletic guy, just a better athlete. But you're also going to get a really good quarterback because he's had thousands of reps of playing quarterback from high school to college to now the NFL. And it's not going to change because guess what? We'll go back on the road this offseason.

We'll see 750 quarterbacks and 300 of them are going to be the best athlete at the time. their school. You know, tonight it's San Francisco and Seattle and that feels like the future of the NFC West, not the Rams. And I think McVe can coach and I think golf can throw. But this organization, it feels like when LeBron came into town, they said, you know what, from a business perspective, we've got to pay some stars here. Their offensive line is, I'm sorry, Trent, it is a major, major problem. Does that, and not golf and not McVeigh, is that explaining L.A.'s

problem now. Yeah, not having Brandon Cooks to kind of go beat, beep, create some space, not having the physical run game. It's really all built off that and then be able to action pass off of it. So really what they've built this thing around is having a dude at receiver that has unique, Twitch, unique speed that can kind of create some fear. He's banged up. You have your back who's not the same. You have your offensive lineman that aren't executing kind of the foundation of what they want to do offensively in the run game. And then your quarterback is his DNA is really kind of like Derek Carr. He'd rather stick it in the belly and put his back to the defense, turn around and pierce the

defense. And now you have them dropping back 30 plus times a game and true drop back pass with an offensive line. And they can't mask their flaws with play action. And it's a recipe for disaster. It's not what they want to be. It's not what Sean is at his best at coaching. It's not how they had their success.

So they got to refine themselves. And it really has to be with great and more physicality on the offensive line, running the ball better, higher run volume numbers in the course of a game so that you can get the most out of your quarterback. Do you worry that Kansas City, I said this to start my show today, Kansas City is starting to feel like the 2011 to 2018 Green Bay Packers. Aaron had to be great to win. If he wasn't, they lost.

And even when he was great, they would often get beat by inferior quarterbacks. Kansas City now doesn't run the ball. They can't stop it and they don't run it. This thing feels a little derailed to me, or is it just that Patrick's not 100%. Oh, Patrick's fine. I mean, not even 100%. He was brilliant yesterday.

I mean, he carried that team. I think you just want to make it very simple. Their defense isn't physical enough. You can't let any team get back in a game running the football. I mean, if you think now, Tannenhole was great in the second half, but they really got back to that game. running the football down your throats. And you got to be able to run the football.

You can't make the quarterback's job that hard every single week, even when he's a generational talent. And we talked about this with Aaron. Aaron and Green Bay are better this year because Aaron's job is in his heart. He didn't play that well yesterday, and Green Bay wins. I think Kansas City needs to take that approach with Patrick, where, yeah, when you need him to be Superman, unlock Superman, let him put on the cape and go.

But he doesn't, he shouldn't have to do it every single. single week. You should build to win games on teams. You should build to win games on defense. You should win games running the football. It shouldn't be on the quarterback shoulders every single week to be brilliant. You know, it's interesting. At the end of that game with Green Bay, they got a break from the official. They came down and they went for it and ran the football. You would think Aaron Rogers would always want to go for it. But I was sitting there thinking, is it possible that when you were a quarterback that you're thinking, you know, we got a break from the officials. The snow's getting bad. I'll just take the field goal because it's. It's

looks like Winters officially arrived in Lambo and Carolina's got a good defense. What did you make of those situational calls with Green Bay going for it at the end of the half? Well, I'll put it in context. I was never as good as Aaron, so you probably think differently than I do. But yeah, there's times that I would assume Aaron and Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes feel this way sometimes that it's just better to take the points. It's just better to do the safe thing. And now I'm a conservative guy by nature. So I always felt that way as the quarterback was what's best for the football team. It doesn't have to be a macho thing.

You know, it doesn't have to be put the ball in my hands all the time. I want the ball in my hands when it matters the most. But there's times when you just do the smart thing. Now, there's also that situation where you kind of smell blood in the water. You think you have your best play. You think you have the opportunity to strike and you take that. So that's why I never get too caught up in those situations when coaches make decisions like that because I see both sides of them, especially now as a high.

school football coach. I can feel what the fans want. I can feel what my other coaches want, but sometimes just go with your gut, which what you think is best for your football team in that moment. A lead 11 guy forever played in the NFL Super Bowl, Pro Bowl. Let me ask a Tua question, a Joe Burrow question. They're both going to get drafted very high. Burroughs a better athlete than people think, and Tua is a great thrower of the football. If I said to you today, you get one of them. Which one do you pick? Oh, I don't even think it's a conversation. I don't even think it's a conversation. I think too is the single best prospect I have ever studied in my years of doing it. He is so uniquely gifted in so many ways that I think he is head and shoulders better than Burrow and Herbert.

Now, saying that, I think both Burrow and Herbert are very, very, very good and will be very good pros. I think this is going to go down as one of the better drafts in a long time for quarterbacks. But I think as you start talking to your people that are in the know, We're talking quarterback type gurus, talking general managers that have been around a long time. You're talking about people that aren't just trying to create narratives for their own personal gain, which we know happens in draft season.

Most people will kind of giggle at that question. Joe Bro is a very good quarterback. Herbert is a very talented player, both first-round picks, really good careers. To a Tagovoa has a chance to be a generational-type talent in the NFL and go down as one of the better quarterbacks that's ever played in the NFL. So funny to watch LSU be this progressive, aggressive,

offensive passing attack because my entire life, they've just run downhill. And Ed Orgeron evolved and said, I got to get current and I got to pass and they won a game and they dominated for most of it. Trent Dilfer, congrats. Now, you know, you've got a playoff win. Don't go crazy.

I want you to keep watching film. No mailing days, okay? Grind it away. trying to win the day and go want to know this week, baby. All right. We've got a next Belichick here. Congratulations, Trent Dilfer. Makes me very, very happy.

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