The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/13/2018

Episode Date: November 13, 2018

Colin thinks that if anyone is going to leave the Warriors it will be Draymond because he is not the equal of KD, Steph or Klay. He reveals his new Herd Hierarchy where he explains why the Rams aren't even the best team in LA anymore. Plus, Titans CB Logan Ryan talks with Colin about dismantling the Patriots on Sunday and what he learned playing for New England that he now brings to a good Titans team. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is The Herd, wherever you may be. And however, you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, it is great to have you in today. Joy Taylor is joining me one hour from now. We have our herd hierarchy one hour from now, where I list the top 10 teams in the NFL, which is increasingly very difficult. Joy, how are you?

I'm doing great. Good morning. I want to start with the Warriors. Warriors played last night and lost. It's a regular season game. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that much. But for the last year now,

the NBA media keeps telling me, fans don't, but the media keeps telling me, Clay Thompson's out of here. He's going to the Lakers. And I keep here, and you know, Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant is out of here, man. Steph Curry, he may go back to Charlotte, and I keep saying to myself, they ain't going anywhere. It's a three-man band. The first guy off the island is going to be Draymond Green.

Draymond Green doesn't fit this team. He's the bully at the nightclub. He's the bouncer. He's the class clown. He fits this band, but the band doesn't need him. He's Ringo Star. They don't need him. I mean, last night's a classic example.

Close game with the Clippers. Draymond Green gets the rebound, gets the ball up the court. Durant's open. Kevin Durant, you know, pretty good. And Draymond Green doesn't find him, was going somewhere else, falls over himself. And then you saw Durant and Kevin, Durant and Draymond Green barking at each other in the huddle. Clay Thompson's not going anywhere, man. Kevin Durant's not going anywhere.

Steph's not going anywhere. Draymond Green's the odd man out here. He will not be here in three years. First of all, there's a lot of guys that can do what he does. He does it really, really well. He's the bouncer at the nightclub. There's a lot of bouncers in every city that can fill that role at the nightclub. And he's really, really good at it.

He's Kenneth Farid. He's muscle. He's muscle. All right. A lot of guys at a gym with muscle. Secondly, his personality rubs people that, you know, it's different. Draymond tends to be a little class clown, a little pokey in the ribs. But here's the other thing.

that goes unsaid. Do you really think Clay Thompson, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant see Draymond Green as an equal? Really? When you go play basketball at the YMCA, when you play basketball against the fellas, you can size guys up

real quick. You're talking Clay Thompson's the best shooting guard to guard in the league. Steph Curry is the greatest shooter ever. And Kevin Durant's arguably the best player in the league outside of LeBron. Some say with LeBron. They don't see Draymond Green as an equal.

They let him travel with the band. They let him travel with the band. He's not an equal. His skills are totally replaceable. Whenever there's a nightclub, the owner of the nightclub will give a percentage to the general manager, maybe the food and beverage guy. They never give a percentage to the bouncer. They don't give a percentage to the muscle at the front door.

Now, you're part of the group. You know, when you guys get to eat dinner before you'd open the doors, you get some of it too. But I always laugh when everybody tells me like Kevin Durant's leaving. Kevin Durant is Silicon Valley. Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, these guys fit the Warriors. They fit their identity. What is Silicon Valley? What is San Francisco?

It's the future. It's the greatest. It's the richest. The most skilled. Those guys fit that. I'm watching Draymond Green last night butcher the end of that game. And I'm like, you keep telling me who's leaving. Only one guy's going to leave this island.

It's going to be Draymond Green. So, you know, I've never bought into this. I think, you know what it is? It's hopeful Laker fans. It's people around the NBA. And we're all hoping, right? Everybody wants to see this incredible dynasty broken up. But when bands break up, there are people in every band, you know, that are less valuable to the band.

And it goes without saying who's less skilled and who's less talented. You lose a front man. You got a different band. You lose a drummer. Bands can mostly replace drummers. You change the front man. You got a different band. So I'm watching this last night,

and I just keep going back to, you really think Clay, Steph, and Kevin Durant consider Draymon an equal? No. Maybe if they got into a fight with the Sixers or a fight with the Cavs or a fight with the Celtics or a fight with OKC, they'd want Draymond Green there.

But the rest of these guys aren't leaving. You're just going to have to deal with this dynasty. And I know they're obnoxious. And I know they think they're smarter than everybody. And I know they're the greatest shooter of all time. I understand nobody likes the Warriors. But don't start making stuff up about people leaving. I don't buy it for one second.

I don't buy KD's leaving. I don't buy Clay's leaving. I don't get steps leaving. They're moving into a new arena. They're going to be the most high-tech organization in the world. And that doesn't sound as much like Draymond as it does Clay, KD, and stuff. Here's the second thing. I want to shift to the NFL. Years ago, I was talking to an NFL player. And he goes, got you, players hate New England. And I'm like, well, well, players, you know,

players just hate who's winning. And the player said to me, no, no, no, we don't hate everybody that's winning. We hate New England. Now, fans will say it's because they cheat. That's not why they keep winning. That's not why they keep winning. I know you want to say SpyGate, but Tom Brady has been better since Deflate Gate. Tom Brady's been better since SpyGate. So the little problems they got into and were stopped, they're better since then. Again, that's confirmation bias. That makes you feel good. Doesn't make it right. But I noticed something this weekend. Remember when Richard Sherman came out and you mad bro at Tom Brady? How do you mad bro at Tom Brady? how did that turn out for Richard Sherman

and how did that turn out for Tom Brady? That was 2012 after beating the Patriots mid-season. And by the way, Lane Johnson, he talked a lot of trash too. Remember Lane Johnson? I'd rather win one Super Bowl and have fun than five Super Bowls. That was Lane Johnson.

Came on the show recently, laughed about it. Dionne Lewis, after he beat the Patriots this weekend, oh, Dionne Lewis was talking trash. He goes, hey, you go cheap, you don't want to pay me. That's how you get your ass kicked. Remember Jalen Ramsey talking trash right before the AFC title game? How did that work out? Remember Jalen Ramsey?

We're going to the Super Bowl and we're going to win that. Oh, brother. Richard Sherman, how to work out for you? Lane Johnson, you guys are four and five going to New Orleans. How did that work out for you? Dionne Lewis really think you'll be playing football, not watching it in January? Jags are Jalen Ramsey are 3 and 6.

Tom Brady talked about Dionne Lewis's trash talk yesterday on WEEI Radio in Boston. I give them credit. They beat us. And when you win, you know, you could say a lot. Like our lumps here and... They didn't want to pay Dionne Lewis $12 million guaranteed in $20 million.

It was just business. The reason NFL players are rooting for the Steelers to win the AFC are rooting. are rooting for the Chargers to win the AFC, are rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs, the Houston Texans. It regards what the Patriots do is what is also not so slowly happening to society. It's called automation.

The rich in America, the wealthy are concerned about a future in America with only rich and robots making money, the middle class replaced. You go online, you see those videos. The New England Patriots are to a large degree NFL Automation, information. Belichick and Brady are the rich and the robots. Players don't matter after that. And they don't like it. And I understand not liking it. You guys watching me when you go home, enter the house after work, don't you want to matter? You people watching me at work,

don't you want to feel important at work? Like players don't like the Patriots because players don't really outside of Tom Brady really matter in New England. NBA players, don't root against the warriors. It is a player-driven system. Players, did you notice this? They loved the Seahawks. Wasn't about the system. It was about the player.

Players, outside of Lavian Bell, love the Steelers. Go online. They love the Chiefs. Players don't like New England. For the same reason, we're all a little afraid about robots and automation. It makes us unimportant.

and everybody wants to matter. Husbands, wives, employees, even rich pro athletes feel like New England squeezes them. What's ironic about that is that as much as players are fearful of New England, the next great teams like the L.A. Rams, aren't they about McVeigh's system? Watch the 49ers last night? Nate Mullins, Jimmy Garoppolo. don't look like they're that important. It's sort of Kyle Shanahan's system.

Matt Nagy makes Mitch Trubisky look like he matters in this league. The system. Football is the opposite of the NBA. The NBA is about telling players how important they are. And the reason there's so much resentment, Dionne Lewis, Richard Sherman, Jalen Ramsey, this is the way it is. New England is automation.

outside of Tom, it's rich in the robots and nobody else really matters. But by January, Belichick and Brady will be playing again. And my guess is Dionne Lewis and Malcolm Butler and Danny Amandola and Nate Soder will be watching football. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Okay, I'm going to show you a video. It's painful. It's not funny. I feel bad for the kid. I've seen this in golf. I've seen this with kickers in pro football. I've seen it with baseball players like Chuck Knoblock, Rick Ankeel, Steve Sacks.

It's called the Yips. It's mental. Markell Fultz was the number one pick a couple years ago. They literally traded up to get Markele Fultz. The Celtics ended up getting Jason Tatum a much better player. We know how that worked out by now. Markele Folt is shot. It's over.

It's all above the head. I talked to a scout two nights ago. It's like, it's over. And they know it's over. And they're benching him now. The story out in Philadelphia, they're going to benchmark L. Fultz, their number one pick. It's over. He needs to be traded.

If anybody wants him, JJ Reddick's a veteran. They don't have a bunch of shooters. They have Jimmy Butler now who I like a lot. But last night he shot a free throw, and it looked like Charles Barkley's golf swing. Watch this thing. Watch it. It's sad, actually. Oh, wow.

Herky jerky from a fat line. You know, the free throw line is the one time where everything's slow and you really got to think about your shot. It clearly looks uncomfortable there. Like it's over. It's over. Okay, this is, David Duval was the number one golfer in the world, got the yips, and disappeared. And it's really sad. And the Sixers moved up for this.

But here's the one thing that I am happy about. This officially ends that stupid thing called the process, which doesn't mean anything. The Celtics had a rebuild. It's going great. it doesn't have a nickname. The Lakers rebuild. It's going very well. They haven't whiffed on anybody.

It doesn't have a nickname. The Milwaukee Bucks Rebuild only has one name. It's called Janus. And it's not catchy. It's just a really dominant player. Well, he has a nickname. Mostly because his name is really long and that's smoother and easier to say, right? A freak freak.

Yeah. But let's be honest about this. The process was always a gimmick. Nirlens, Noel, bust, Jalelel. Olkofor, bust. Markell Fultz, bust. Michael Carter Williams, mostly a bust.

Their number one pick this year is out for the year with a peanut allergy. I'm not joking. Zaire Smith. Can we stop with this Philadelphia thing? Listen, this is why I loved the Sixers acquiring Jimmy Butler. He's a real player.

He's a real asset. Do you understand in the NBA. It took Anthony Davis, what, five years to win a playoff series or six? Anthony Davis. Janus took four years to kind of like round his game off. There's 370 Division I basketball programs. On average, go look in the last 15 years.

Two players come out of college and can play first year. Last year, Donovan Mitchell, Utah, Jason Tatum, Boston as rookies. You're like, oh, those dudes can play. Right now, the rest of them aren't emotionally ready, aren't physically ready, are never physically good, and are busts and get hurt or emotionally, like Markell Fultz, not big enough for the room. Can we stop with these doofy nicknames? The process.

You know what it was? There was this kind of analytic guy, and the media loves stories, and they love analytics, because most media members are nerds and they weren't athletes. And so they like the slide ruler of sports. It makes them feel I kind of belong. I'm smarter than all these guys. Charles Barkley doesn't like, he doesn't like analytics, but Charles Barkley, you know, is one of the greatest players of all time

could actually play the game. And so the media loves analytics, and I like man analytics. A little bit of analytics. Mostly I like watching men play at the high level, NFL, baseball, MLS, NFL, whatever it is. I'm not anti-analytics, but I'm pro-Manalic. Jimmy Butler is a man. He's a man.

Joe L&B's a man. He's a grown man. And Ben Simmons is young. six, ten guards, man. Stop with all this process stuff. Stop all these goofy nickname. The process was just a contrived, corny media invention. Bust, bust, bust, bust.

The next guy's out with a peanut allergy for the year. Mark L. Foltz can't play. Bottom line is, even Embed missed two years with injuries. There is no science or analytics that nails drafts. Even Belichick struggles. I am for NFL NBA baseball teams going out and getting a Justin Verlander, or even if you don't like a Mani Machado, or an Indomacan Sioux, or a Jimmy Butler, or a Kib Taleb, veterans.

Go look at who's winning in the NBA. Let me tell you something. Everybody loves Jason Tatum of the Celtics. If the Boston Celtics win the East this year, it won't be because of Jason Tatum. if the Boston Celtics are holding up the Eastern Conference banner or trophy or whatever you get, Al Horford will have scored 18 points a game in the series, Gordon Hayward 20, and Kyrie Irving 26. If Jason Tatum's dropping 30, you're not winning the east.

You're not beating Milwaukee and Toronto. You're not beating Philadelphia with Jason Tatum. You're going to need Al Horford, your star Kyrie Irving, you're going to need Gordon Hayward to be front and center. This is why I'm pro-Jimmy Butler and anti the process. Get me men who can play. By the way, Tyson Chandler and LeBron, veterans can play. I'm still waiting for Brandon Ingram. I'm still waiting.

I'm still waiting for Andrew Wiggins in Minnesota. Get me dudes. Enough with the process. It's over. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the I-Heart Radio app. Search heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

Last night, the Giants beat San Francisco. And my takeaway on that game, because I watched that I didn't think it was that fascinating. But the thing that jumps out to me, let me talk about the losing team, San Francisco and the coach Kyle Shanahan. It used to be in the NFL. The number one thing was to find a quarterback. But let me tell you what 1A is now. Get the right coach. San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan is 18th in the NFL.

NFL in points. They're on their third quarterback. Their offense is better, scores more points than Philadelphia, Dallas, and Washington with an undrafted off-the-street practice squad guy. Does everybody get how good and how much offensive coaches matter? He's on his third quarterback. Garoppolo averaged 24 and a half. C.J. Beatherd averaged over 20, and now Nick Mullins is averaging 28. He's off the street. He was a practice squad guy, meaning anybody in the league could have had him. Anywhere, anywhere on the roster, everybody passed except the Niners. And San Francisco doesn't have their best running back, hurt before the season started, and they don't have a number one receiver, and they led most of the game. I mean, it's amazing. If you go look, Chicago Bears,

the offense stayed the same. They added Matt Nagy. They average 13 and a half points more a game. the Rams went and got Sean McVey average 16 more points a game Kyle Shanahan left Matt Ryan in Atlanta same players average 13 points less a game it's always been important to have the coach but one a or to have the quarterback you got to have the quarterback but I'm telling you Chicago right now that's not a Mitch Trubisky story that's a Matt Nagy story that that is not a Mitch Trubisky story and by the way I like Jared Goff a lot but that's a Sean McVeigh story and there's nothing against Matt Ryan,

but that MVP year, that was a Kyle Shanahan story. What he is doing in San Francisco right now, think about this. The Giants' offensive talent last night. Eli Manning, first rounder. Sequin Barclay, first rounder. Left tackle, Nate Solder, first rounder.

Evan Ingram, tight end first rounder. OBJ, first rounder. He was working with Nate Mullins, undrafted. Matt Breda, running back, undrafted. George Kittles, tight-end fifth round. Mark East Grissom. third round. You're talking about a mismatch in talent.

So he covers up. Matt Nagy, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey, they cover up a lot of warts. The losing team blows me away. They don't have any running backs. Undrafted. Quarterback undrafted. They're star offensive guys a fifth rounder.

Good Lord. Are they going to be good? with one more draft, a couple of free agents, and Jimmy Garoppolo. That game on paper shouldn't be close. Who's got all the first rounders? I'm telling you, these young coaches are getting a lot of guys fired. Mike McCarthy, we never talked about his job. Now all of a sudden Matt Nagy's in his division.

We're talking about his job. We never said Pete Carroll was in trouble. All of a sudden you bring Sean McVeyan. He looks kind of old. I mean, Kyle Shanahan, McVey, and Matt Nagy, going to get a lot of dudes fired. All right, here we go. We do it every Tuesday.

Monday night football's over. it is our top 10, our herd hierarchy. I'm going to go with Carolina. Now hold on, slow down number 10. Carolina over Tennessee. To me, it's a coin flip. I'll just take Cam over Marcus Mariotta. Here's what concerns me with both.

They have to play a certain way to win. Carolina's 24th in pass offense. They're one and three on the road. Carolina doesn't play well from behind, either it is Tennessee. So I have a coin flip. I think these are really good teams, but the game for Tennessee and Carolina has to go a certain way. Get in the lead, run the ball, play action.

I'll take Carolina at 10 slightly over Tennessee. Number nine. The Chicago Bears. Listen, when the offense clicks with this defense, I mean, they got the best turnover differential plus 13 in the NFL. They're running about 70% college. offense, 30% NFL offense. They're not turning it over.

Trubisky, very smartly, is playing the game Matt Nagy wants, and they have a terrific front seven. They rested Khalil Mack for several weeks for the home stretch, and this week they play Minnesota, so we'll know if they're for real. It's their best start through nine

games since 2012 Bears at 9. Number eight. I think Minnesota's going to beat him this weekend, barely, and I think it's close. Listen, the Viking are tied for number one in sacks. They're a tremendous rush defense. They'll force Trubisky to throw.

So I'll take Minnesota to win that game. But my issue with Minnesota is I don't trust Kurt Cousins in big games, and they really can't run the football. They're tremendous. They're kind of like the opposite of Carolina. I get all the sizzle. I'd like a little more steak in the running game. I'll put Minnesota at eight.

Number seven. Houston Texans. I still think their defense is better than it's played. playing. I like their personnel on defense better than the result so far. But this story is about Deshawn Watson. If you can give him protection, the kid's magic. I mean, it comes down to that. They're not going to win on their defensive front. J.J. Watts not went in playoff games. Deshawn Watson's last three games, 8 TDs, no picks, 132 quarterback rating. Like Andrew Luck, comes off an injury,

kind of a bumpy September, but they're going to go as far. far as Deshawn allows them, I have the Texans at 7. Number 6. New England. Again, I think at home, I think when they can, you know, get the ball rolling, I think it's a very good football team with the best coach in the NFL and an elite quarterback. Their pass rush is hit and miss. Gronk physically, week to week, is hit and miss. And by the way, Tom this year is 18th in completion percentage. Passer rating is 16th. I do believe this is one of those years they could really use home field in January. I don't think they can go on the road and be to Kansas City or Pittsburgh or a Houston this year. I just don't. Number five. I cooled on the Rams about three weeks ago.

Listen, their defense has cracks. Dante Fowler had a nice weekend, and so again, it looks like a smart acquisition. But they've allowed 30 plus points in back-to-back games. Russell Wilson, gave them fits. Seattle ran the ball right at them. Now, the good news is they've scored 30 plus points in 8 of 10 games, but I think they're going to be unveiled a little bit this weekend. I think the Chiefs are going to beat the Rams. I like them a lot. But defensively, you can take the ball away from them, run the ball, and eat the clock, and I think it's their liability. Number four. Chargers. I think the Chargers may not be as talked about, as disgust. They're not the media darling. I think the Chargers have better players than the Rams. I think they've had the best receiving core in the NFL. They're doing this without Joey Bosa. I don't trust their field goal situation, but they've won six straight. The only player in the league with multiple touchdown passes in every game is Phillip Rivers. They've held five straights opponents under 20 points. This roster, outside of field goal, they don't really have a flaw. They really don't.

Last year you could run on them. This year, not so much. This receiving core is a three-headed monster. Cooper Cups out for the year for the Rams. All the Chargers receivers are healthy. Number three. Steelers. About a month ago, they played Atlanta, and whatever happened, it clicked.

Because since that game against Atlanta, their pass rush is nasty. They are first in the NFL. I never worry about their offense. Nobody drafts receivers and develops young receivers like the Steelers. I never worry about that. Tight ends, backs, O-linement. Pittsburgh's fine in the offensive side. And again, this year, they didn't even need Levian Bell.

That pass rush now, they have buttoned up the defense. They've won five straight. Lead the league in Sacks, Pittsburgh at three. Number two. Kansas City. Haven't given them a ton of love so far. I do think they beat the Rams. Justin Houston's back.

Eric Barry. I don't think they're going to be a great defensive team. But I don't think anybody's a great. defensive team. Pittsburgh's the most dominating defense I've seen was Chicago. You know, Chicago gives up big points. Pittsburgh's been to run around a couple of times. I just think when it comes to Kansas

City, what I like this weekend, they scored the fewest points. They've scored all year, 26. I think they're looking ahead of the Rams. They still won, convincingly. I'll take Kansas City number two. Number one. I don't think anybody can deny this Saints team is good. Secondary is a little iffy. Run defense, excellent. Offensive line.

It doesn't get a lot of love, but it reminds me a little bit of the Cowboys O'Line about three years ago. It just feels a notch better than even good offensive lines. They've scored 96 points in the last two games. And by the way, they've had tough games. You know, they play the Vikings emotional. And they have to play the Rams. And then after the Rams, they have to go to Cold Cincinnati. And it's just win after win after win.

They've gone to cold areas, Baltimore, cold area at Cincinnati. They've come home. Big game. Saints number one. What's up, John Middlecom from the three and out podcast. If you like Colin's show, you will like mine. I talk a ton of football. Coming up on today's show, we dive into Kyle Shanahan,

what makes him a quarterback whisper, the Dallas Cowboys. They're not done yet in Grinkowski, why Belichick should have got rid of him last year. Again, the three and out podcast, wherever you listen to your podcast, with me, John Middlecoff. blow a gasket here. Give me three minutes, four minutes on this. Tomorrow, I want to get ahead of this. Tomorrow we're going to be arguing about something, and I think it's a stupid argument, but I do have a strong opinion on this. Okay, tonight's the college football playoff stuff,

and it's going to be Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame. Those are the three best teams I've seen. And, you know, fourth, we're all going to argue about fourth. We always do this. Jay Billis, Dickie Vital, go crazy, get Monmouth in. We always argue about the garnish instead of the steak. The steak is Alabama. I don't give a rip about generally. of the last team is in that's going to get their arts kick by Alabama. But I will say this. There's a word in college sports I'm tired of when it comes to tournaments. And that word is deserving.

Stick it. I'm tired of deserving. What I want is disruptive. I don't care what lousy conference you want. College football is better when multiple teams can win a national championship. So if I'm on that committee, I don't give a rip about some central Florida football team. that's deserving. I don't care about Memphis Tech and Monmouth and, you know, Dickie Vell spent hours,

and I love the guy, but he'll spend hours arguing about somebody that's got no chance to win three games. Is Duke in? Is Kansas in his Kentucky in? You know, check please. Here's what to look at for number four. Number four is Alabama first. There are two teams in that four spot that could be disruptive to Alabama. One of them is Georgia.

They recruit the same players and they beat Alabama all the time on athletes. Now, I don't think Georgia is going to beat Alabama, but Nick Saven would look at that tape and go, we better play clean. We better play clean. Now, George is going to play Alabama in the SEC championship game and get their crack at him. So erase them for the sports spot. I'm not giving them two shots to beat Alabama. That's totally unfair to Alabama.

Alabama shouldn't have to have to beat you twice in a row. That's totally unfair. If Bama beats Georgia, that's your shot, step up, big boys, play football. You beat Bama? Then we got a different argument. But the team that deserves to be disruptive, who is Nick Saban going to look at and go, oh boy, it's Oklahoma. Oklahoma has all the ingredients that give Nick Saban little worst night's sleep. They got a mobile quarterback.

Nick Sabin struggle with mobile quarterbacks. They got NFL receivers, backs, and offensive linemen. Nick Saven would put in that table, Oklahoma. And first couple of nights, Nick Savin would go, we got to play clean. I don't care about your deserving. Michigan may be more deserving. Michigan has no chance to beat Alabama. The only teams in that four spot that are disruptive to Alabama, because Clemson's proven

they're disruptive. But Clemson's going to beat whoever they play at two, they'll beat Notre Dame, they'll end up. playing Alabama last. But the question is at number four. If you want to go deserving, somebody's going to get beat by 40. Georgia, Oklahoma, are the only teams that could get into that four spot that can make Bama work for it. They'd be disruptive. And Georgia's getting their shot in the SEC championship. So cross them out. You get one. You don't get two shots. Oklahoma has to be in there. They have all the ingredients, big boy offensive linemen, big boy receivers, mobile quarterback, and a brilliant head coach.

Nick Saban's never faced Lincoln Riley. Lincoln Riley is a world-class. Dallas Cowboys want Lincoln Riley. NFL teams want Lincoln Riley. I guarantee you if you ask Nick Sabin outside of Georgia who he doesn't want to play in that first game, it's Oklahoma. He'd love to face Washington State. He looks at how small they are.

He'd love to face Michigan. That offensive line for Michigan is mediocre. Who would Nick Sabin, not want to play in that first playoff game. Georgia for a second time, and that's unfair, so cross them off in Oklahoma. I don't care about your deserving.

I don't care about deserving. I care about disruptive. All right, I'm done. I didn't think that was too aggressive. There we go. The deserving teams aren't going to like it. But Monmouth. Monmouth doesn't get into March Madness, and

Memphis Tech and Panera Brad and the Gah, it's like, is Dukin, is Kansas and is Kentucky and is Syracuse in? Good. We referenced this. Panera Brad University alive.

But UCF, UCF is undefeated and I don't care. I don't care. Get into a regular conference. I don't care. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Let's bring on a former Patriots, got some rings. Now he's at Titan. Logan Ryan, be the coward Global Satellite Network. First of all, I'm excited to talk to you because you're a really a

thinking man's football player. They nabbed you out of Rutgers. I'm surprised they let you go because you are right up New England's alley. You're an analytic guy. You do all the little things well. Were you surprised? Are you surprised today? You're still not a

patriot. You feel like a patriot. Well, I appreciate those those compliments right there. I wish you can, we got to save that for Brable to, so you can talk to me like that a little more. No, you know, it is what it is. I love being a patriot. I felt like I really was great in the system, being versatile, being willing to play wherever it took to win games. But I also understand from a financial standpoint that I might have got a little too rich for them. Yeah. And that's okay because John Robinson is a guy who liked me out of college and I really feel like I can grow here and be a number one corner here and really

develop guys like a Dooy Jackson and really be a leader on a defense and do something special here in Nashville. And that's what I'm doing on and off the field. I'm having a great time doing it and having a great time, you know, playing my former team too. So it's good all around and, you know, things work out as they may. And I mean, that's life. And I'm happy with, you know, everything has gone in my career so far. Well, Nashville is an amazing place to live. It's one of the really cool cities in America. My wife and I have been there. We're always like, Man, Nashville is a hidden gem, and they love their Titans. You had a quote after the game.

You said, quote, I've played a lot of games, and I haven't seen the Patriots look like that at the end of the game. Logan, what did you mean by that? Explain that. Well, we had so many keys to that game, and really it was to make them earn every yard. And we know with New England, they're going to, they did it to us in a playoffs last year.

They're going to spread you out, go empty, go no huddle. and try to dink and dunk. And we wanted to make every yard, give them nothing for free. We wanted to line up. We wanted to make them earn it. And we wanted to press the receivers and, you know, rush Brady. We weren't going to sit back and play zone and let them have all day. So we were going to go after it and really go for the win.

And we were so locked in on doing that every drive. And I remember we got up right away and we're up 14-0 or 14-3. And I'm like, stay on it. Stay on it. Because I've been on the other side. I've been with Brady coming back 23 in the Super Bowl. I've been in the first Super Bowl of Malcolm Butler and Brady and coming back down 14 to fourth quarter.

So I've been on that other side with him. He's relentless. And that's how we had to be on defense. So to see him out of the game with seven minutes left, that's something I haven't seen where they said, you know what, let's just kind of getting a bi-week healthy because I think we were beating him up a little bit. It was a really physical game on both sides.

A lot of guys got banged up. A lot of guys giving a lot of effort. And, I mean, that's the effort that we need to play with every week. And I just think to see New England at the end, kind of pull Brady out and kind of say, you know, let's put Hoyer in and kind of run the ball. And, you know, I haven't seen that. Yeah, well, no, there's no question. It was beyond disruptive. He was never comfortable in the pocket.

You spent four years going against him at practice. And we all know Tom's great. That goes without saying. Are there tricks that you have learned from Tom? Like if I said to you, if I said to you, Logan, give me one or two things that you're a better place. having faced Brady? What would those be? Well, it's really a one-play mindset because Brady can have a bad play or I can have a bad play and their team's going to need you in the end. And I think I gave up a catch to Edelman early in the game and I had a fourth down stop on the

same play later. So I mean, to kind of just stay in at each and every play, it's a long game. It's something I learned from Brady. But really, you know, our key was to rush to, you know, get him out get him off the spot he's the best pocket passer of all time he's the greatest quarterback of all time i believe that from seeing that seeing his work ethic playing with him and everybody's key is to get him off the spot that that's obviously easy said than done and their offensive line um they're taught to block inside out and and create a nice pocket and brady's going to move up in the pocket so we want to disrupt that like everyone tries to do i think we did a good job of executing it uh with dean peas who's been in Baltimore for years and had some good game plans against Brady.

We did some new defense that he hasn't seen. We also did a mixture of what we do, what's making us the number one defense right now in football. So I think we had a good mix of doing what we do, but giving them something new. And I don't think it tricked them. And I don't think we're trying to trick them. I just think that we were just playing aggressively

and mixing in new defense and old defense and trying to line up in it almost. Because if you try to disguise him, he's seen it all. and then you don't execute the play. For example, I remember the first play of the game, Kenny Bekara has a big hit defensively, and it's second and 12. And then they run the ball or whatever,

and it's third and 12. And Kevin Byard gets caught trying to Skies cover two, and he throws a 40-yard bomb to Josh Gordon down the middle. And KB said, man, I got caught trying to show too low. And I said, look, he's seen it. He knows you're not going to be there. Just line up where we got line up and just play. And I think it's what we started to do.

We stopped trying to trick them. and just played, and like I said, made them receivers aren't every yard. You know, a couple of things. You face Andrew Luck this week, and I know you've seen film on Andrew. I love Andrew Luck. I think life a lot of times is do you get support? Nobody can do it alone in life. Nobody.

No player. Michael Jordan. Not in football. Yeah, not in football. By the way, Michael Jordan needed Scotty Pippin and Phil Jackson, too. And I look at Andrew Luck, in those first few years, man, he didn't have an old line. He didn't have a running game. now he has both.

Logan Ryan, when you look at the film of Andrew Luck, what do you see? What jumps out to you? Because this is the biggest Titans game in the regular season, Logan. I can remember in years. What do you see? I see that he's healthy. I mean, he's throwing the ball like Andrew Luck does.

And early in his career when he was healthy and has some protection, he was MVP candidate. So that's what it is. The last three games, he hasn't got sacked. I mean, that's the key. If you give any quarterback, or especially a good one, some time in this lead, they can pick you apart. I mean, I tip my hat.

I think that we have the best cover guys in the NFL. I think we're the best secondary. I think we can match up with anybody man to man with our three corners and our two safeties. But if you give anybody time, you can't cover them forever. So we have to find a way to disrupt his timing, get in that offensive line, make them uncomfortable, similar to what we did last week. We just have to really make them uncomfortable back there and allow our coverage and our rush to Matt to Mary.

up. And I think that's the key. You know, it's interesting. The AFC this year, it feels like, you know, it's early, but I feel like New England will win their division, Pittsburgh will win theirs, Kansas City, Chargers will win theirs. And then I feel like the wild cards, your division's the last one that's open.

And it's interesting. When you are in New England, you never had a Super Bowl hangover. They've avoided it. Philadelphia this year has a Super Bowl hangover. There is something to be said about living in the moment. How do I know that young Tennessee, after beating the Patriots, you guys aren't out partying all night and you're going to show up flat against the Colts? How do I know that's not going to happen? Yeah, we tried that. They called us being the Eagles earlier than the year our Super Bowl. And we upset Philly when they got Carson Wentz back and

Philly was supposed to be riding high. And we beat them in overtime and it was great. And then we out and lost to the bills and lost three straight. Yep. And then we did a lot of evaluation over the by week. It came at a good time for us to figure out what we do well, commit ourselves. And we said it's November. That's something that Rabel is bringing from New England. It's true.

It's November. It's decision time. It's time to decide who the reels and the fakes are. It's time to decide who's going to win a division. It's time to decide what type of team you're going to be. I think these last two weeks, we had two games in six days after playing a game in line and having a long bye week. we had two games in six days to really show what's that ball offense.

We've got to come in that. And trust me, we had that taste in our mouth after the Eagles game. And I'm trying my best not to let that happen again. And I don't think it will. I think that the coach is going to get our best shot. By the way, you're wearing a sweater, Logan Ryan, former Patriot, and it's MMNB. It's my man, catch no ball slogan for the Titans.

You also have a charity campaign per tackle. you raise money for your foundation, which is Animal Rescue, a family foundation. You're a really good dude. You're a tremendous young man. And by the way, give your Animal Rescue Foundation some love here. Tell me about it. Yeah, so the story starts in New England. It starts at Rutgers, the Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation.

My wife, who was my then girlfriend at Rutgers, I got dragged to New England. She moved up with me. And a little bit about her is I was playing for Super Bowl. and she didn't want any of my money. And she wanted to work. And she started working at a dog shelter. She was sweeping up kennels and cleaning up after dogs and walking them in the winter. And I would volunteer in my off days and go hang out with her and go walk some dogs with

her. And we rescued three dogs on our own throughout those years. But I really got to see the people who working at shelter, some of these dogs, the amount of help they need. And I really wanted to get some of these dogs adopted because you get some friendships and relationships with these dogs have been there over a year. So I started taking pictures with dogs and trying to get them adopted and started doing it 26 of every month for my jersey number. It kind of gained wind and I kind of built that.

Me and my wife built that into a 5.1c3 nonprofit. We raised a ton of money for animals, dogs, cats, shelters, animals all over to really help them find forever home through behavior, through blankets in the winter, toys, whatever we can raise money for to help those animals. I have a huge heart for them. A lot of people do. It's bigger than football.

And that's what my pledge of campaign is. I'm pledging $126 per tackle that I make. I'm one of the best tackling DBs in the league. And I ask people to do that as well. And it doesn't have to be that much. It can be a dollar. It can be 50 cents to tackle. Whatever it is, it's going to go to the right cause.

It's going to help out some animals. Logan, Ryan, good dude. You're easy to root for. Great career. Good man. Thank you so much for coming on the herd. We really appreciate you taking time. We know you're a busy guy.

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