The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/14/2019

Episode Date: November 14, 2019

Colin explains the differences between the Steelers and the Browns cultures in a very interesting way that you have to hear to understand. He says Tom Brady might be the toughest QB he's ever seen mentally. Greg Cosell of NFL Films tells Colin that he doesn't understand how the Cowboys are 5-4 considering how good their offense looks on tape. Plus, former NFL DB Will Blackmon talks about the Raiders culture being so good under Jon Gruden and why he still believes in Baker Mayfield. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. This on a Thursday, Steelers Browns tonight is the herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and

F.S. One hour from now, you know I call it my NFL meat sandwich. Greg Kosel stops by if you play fantasy football, if you gamble, if you just love football. Greg Coasell is about 10 minutes. You have to watch and listen to on our radio dial or our TV show. Joy Taylor is joining me on a Thursday. So she's from Pittsburgh. So she's a Steeler girl. And for most of your life, you have looked down upon Cleveland. Well, I mean, it's not been hard. Sorry,

I might get any more easy jabs at the Browns. Yeah, I mean, I'm very excited for tonight. But it's interesting tonight, Joy, because this is the year it could have been a mess for Pittsburgh. Yep. They lost Big Ben, Labian Bell, Antonio Brown, and the Steelers once again have their act together. And this should have been the greatest year in two decades for Cleveland, OBJ and Jarvis Landry, Nick Chabir comes, Kareem Hunt, that defense, Olivier, Vernon, Denzel Ward, and they are again a mess. I saw a stat this morning. This may be my favorite NFL stat ever. and it's not about the players. The last six Cleveland Brown coaches,

I'm not making this up, have all been fired after a Steelers game. Oh my Lord. If that doesn't scream, low football self-esteem, and they've all been fired after the second Steeler game. So Cleveland comes into a season, they feel good about themselves,

lose to the Steelers once. We're going to get him the second time and they lose again. And the owner, whoever it is, and the GM, whoever it is, low self-esteem, chaos and panic. They fire the coach. Last six coaches. I said this about a year ago. In fact, it was last August 12th, I looked it up. The AFC North, Steelers, Ravens, Bingles, Browns is a big family. The Steelers are the very successful. father. He created generational wealth. He is aged. He is handsome. Not every year's

been great. There have been little dips. They're always brief. Because the Steelers are very smart and very successful and never panic. The Steelers had a son. His name is Baltimore. Tough as nails. Dependable. Always trustworthy.

You want to be in the foxhole with Baltimore. You can trust Baltimore. They work their way through problems. Yes, they grew up with a great dad, but they've earned everything. Then there's Cincinnati. That's the less successful son of Pittsburgh. They're always looking up at the more successful son, Baltimore. They're the red-headed stepchild. Never really good in a big spot. Any success ends briefly. They can't be successful without screwing it up. And then Cincinnati has a son, and he becomes a huge loser, and his name is Cleveland.

he's the loser son of the loser's son of his father. And he's just too far away DNA to get his act together. He's just too far removed from good DNA. Constant chaos. Talks a big game. Never backs it up. Unlike Cincinnati, he doesn't even get brief success. He just screws that up, which is why Baker is perfect for Cleveland.

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, false confidence. Tonight, Cleveland should win going away. That's the way it should work if you lose your Hall of Fame quarterback like Pittsburgh, start the season 0 and 3, get blown out in week one, and lose two stars over the course of a year A, B, and Labian Bell, but that's not what's happened to the Steelers. The very successful father puts his arm, has built a great culture, arms around the family, they go make a big move in Minka Fitzpatrick, the culture, the metal, the moxie, the intelligence, the history, they're actually a playoff team today and have absolutely no reason to be.

And then there's Cleveland. Most hype in two decades, mostly been big injury free, a quarterback who now gets the guy who helped him last year, Freddie Kitchens, saddle up alongside him, and they're just a big hot mess. But they are favored tonight, as they should be, because if you have, had a Hall of Fame quarterback and you lost him in season and you replaced him with Mason Rudolph. Sounds like a painter. You shouldn't go to Cleveland and win tonight, but Pittsburgh will win tonight because that's what Pittsburgh does. The successful father has had

several dips. Terry Bradshaw retires, Big Ben gets hurt. Do you know, Mike Tomlin is 15 and 10 when Big Ben gets hurt? You know, outside of Belichick, the one year Brady was gone, You do get that doesn't happen really in the NFL. So tonight is not only a football game. It is a battle of cultures. Smart, successful, tough. Don't talk a lot. In fact, got noise out of the locker room.

We don't want the noise. Cleveland had an interesting football team, but traded for more personality and noise. I'm not just rooting against Cleveland tonight. What I'm rooting for, is Pittsburgh, their culture, their history, their reliability, their toughness, and I root for people who talk less, do more, and overcome bad breaks. And the Steelers got it, were blown out, and this morning they're a playoff team.

That's impressive. Not shaven three times for a football game. Let's shift to this. This made me laugh. It will make joy and the rest of the AFC fans cry. Alex Guerrero is Tom Brady's trainer, the pliability guy. He said Tom is not going to retire after the season. In fact, he said he's going to keep playing and keep playing.

Not two more years. Not three more years. Not four more years. Tom's going to play potentially five more years until his mid to late 40s. This is Alex Guerrero. It all comes down to commitment. I certainly do believe that 45 is very realistic. So, you know, we talk about it all the time.

Like, every year, he just adds another year. Because he just goes in and he's like, guy, he just feels so good still. Like, I think I'm going to go to 45. I'm like, okay. And it's like, now he's like, Alice, I think I can go like 46 or 47. Joy is cringing.

The Pittsburgh and Miami girl is cringing. Let me say this. I've always said this about LeBron. When you write the book on LeBron, Chapter one is, dude is great. Chapter two is, He is physically remarkable. Hurt once.

Now we're asking him in year 17. Go play point guard. Chase around smaller guys. Chapter 1 on LeBron is unbelievable. Chapter 2 is physically, I've never seen anything like him. When they write the book on Tom Brady, hope I get to write that. The first chapter will be goat.

Second chapter will be he is psychologically the strongest player in league history. And I want you to think about this. think about the men, men with egos, alpha males. Can you imagine being the greatest person to ever do something in the country? And yet being told, we will not pay you like the greatest person ever. You'll be paid significantly less than people with no Super Bowl appearances. But I'm that, no, no, no, we're not going to pay you. Then we will not furnish you with elite pieces like

Patrick Mahomes. No, we don't do that. That's not our culture here in New England. Third, we don't compliment. We don't treat you like a star. Money? No. Adoration?

No, wrong football operation. At least give me elite weapons. No, we're not going to give you that. In fact, all Tom Brady seeks, because he knows he can't get the other stuff, is what his wife said on the documentary. Remember that? This last two years have been very challenging for him in so many ways. And I think he just, you know, he tells me I love it so much

and I just want to go to work and feel appreciated and have fun. Money, no, adoration no, weapons no. He just wants a little respect. Now think about this. Jerry Jones, every opportunity, tells you how much he loves Dak. Pete Carroll, three times this year.

Russell Wilson's having the best year of his career. Andy Reed furnishes Patrick Mahomes with constant love. John Harbaugh told Lamar Jackson last weekend, I love you, man. I love you. On Tom Brady's birthday, three years ago,

this was Bill Bealeck's reaction. Right. Well, first of all, I don't think we want to miss Chris Parker's birthday, even. Yeah, it's a backup offensive lineman's birthday, too. Remember the video, Joy and I showed you, when Belichick gave Brady the game ball? It was uncomfortable.

Bill was doing a solid. Bill was fired in Cleveland, comes to New England, losing record 5 and 11. Tom comes over. Bill becomes the greatest coach ever. He gave him a game ball. It was uncomfortable. Chapter 1 on Brady, greatest I've ever seen.

Chapter 2 is, I don't have the mental strength. In my career, if I was as great as Tom, not paid among the best in my profession, never get a compliment for my boss, although I don't seek those, but not even given an elite staff. Can I get like a really, can I get Joy Taylor? She's not available.

She's expensive. I don't get joy. No. We found somebody in Sheboygan that's almost as good. And Brady never complains. Just win Sunday. He's going to play to 47. Maybe 48.

Every year we're just going to stretch it. I'm just going to continue to suffer. I told you, this is why I refuse to write them off for the Super Bowl. Besides the fact that they don't have any elite weapons. Not doing it. I won't do it. I'm not going to fall for that again. sure to catch live editions of the herd

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To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So Cam Newton, not old bitter and rigid, said, yeah, I'm willing to be traded and said to Chicago sounds fun to me. And I love his openness and willingness to be traded. So I thought that today let's talk about, and I'm not going to count Marcus Mariotta and the Dalton James Winston, Gardner Minshu. I'm talking about what quarterbacks are available. coming up that people view as I'm going to build around them. You may get Andy Dalton, bring him to practice, compete, Marcus Mariotta, Tanna Hill, Minshue.

I'm talking about, we're all in on him. There's five in college this year. Tua from Alabama, Joe Burrow, LSU, Justin Herbert from Oregon. And then Jacob Easton at Washington, I'm kind of selling that stock. Jordan Love, I don't know enough about it, Utah State, but he will be a first rounder. that's available on the market. Jaylen Hertz, too. Jalen Hertz, too.

Again, I need to see more easen, size, arm. Now, there's two in the NFL, Cam and Teddy Bridgewater. I prefer Teddy. I like the maturity. I think he's all in. He's not a vertical passer, but he's Drew Breeze.

I mean, he's Drew Breeze. Situational, accuracy, grown-up, all that stuff. So you got seven. Maybe another college guy, seven. And then I looked at the teams that need a quarterback, many of them urgently. Cincinnati, Miami, Chicago, Tampa Bay, Carolina. I think Denver would make a move.

I think Indianapolis, Jacoby Brissette's only got one more year on contract. They're not Chris Ballard, that's not the future of Indianapolis. You go Andrew Luck to Brissette. They're going to draft, but I don't think they're urgent, right? They could wait another draft. So I got about seven quarterbacks available, and I got about nine teams, eight to nine teams, several urgently who are going to go get it. So we know, now we're talking about Cam Newton here.

Cincinnati and Miami are not going to go after him. They're going to start over. Okay, Cincinnati and Miami, in my opinion, they have the one and two picks. You're going to go and get Burrow or two. You can sell that to your fans. It's not an old story. It's a new one. I don't think Tennessee is going to go get Cam because they've had a mobile quarterback who gets hurt and has accuracy issues.

It was called Mario. Cam's just a better version of it. Denver, I don't think. they be all in on him. John Elway prefers a pocket guy and a guy that's all in, not distracted, that's not Cam. And I don't think Indianapolis, I don't think he fits their culture or their locker room. They're young,

they're mostly marginally paid. I don't think Cam fits Indianapolis. I think Andrew Luck fit Indianapolis. Jacoby Brissette fits Indianapolis. Low, low talk, low charisma, that's their culture. I think you come down to two teams

where they got the roster to win now. They don't want to take, roll the dice on a college guy. And I think at number one, Chicago and number two, the LA Chargers. The Chargers can't sell tickets. They've got no juice athletically at quarterback. Cam is juice. You could bring Cam into that locker room and all the bosses and the Ingrams and the Melvin

Gordons and the Derwin James would be totally into a mobile quarterback that adds juice and sells tickets. In L.A., Cam would instantly be the biggest football star in Los Angeles. Angeles, when you got LeBron down the street, Paul George, Anthony Davis, Kauai, don't kid yourself. This is not Green Bay. It's not Buffalo. You're competing for the advertising dollar in this city. Jared Goff's got no personality.

Gurley doesn't talk. Cooper Cup went to my college. He doesn't talk. Aaron Donald, amazing, doesn't talk. Cam's the biggest football star in town. They can't sell tickets. They're giving them away. And I also think they need athletic juice at quarterback.

Their offensive line's not good. They won't draft good enough to get the top two or three offensive lines. I don't think they have the patience for it. I think the Spanos family wants to make money. They want to sell tickets. They want to get juice and they need it in a competitive market. Secondly, I think it's Chicago. Win now. Because Trubisky's a bust. I hate to say that, but he is. They can't afford another college guy that doesn't work. Ryan Pace hits another quarterback that doesn't work. Ryan Pace is never a GM again. Cam's not a bust. Not my cup of tea. No chance he'd bust. I also think with that hyper-athletic roster, you bring Cam in who's got a cannon for an arm.

Teddy Bridgewater doesn't have the big arm. You may know Chicago. It's windy and stuff in August. Like big arm, big juice, big personality. In a big broad Oprah, Jordan, Cubs, it's a big city. I think Cam would embrace it. So to me, you got seven guys on the market. You got nine teams that need it.

The two teams at the top are going college, and they're not trading down. So if you think you're the charger is going to move up, not going to happen. They don't. Think you're Chicago, you're too good moving up. Sincere and Miami are not moving off those spots. You don't work this hard. Then you have two great prospects and go, yeah, we're just going to move it and get a defensive end. That is not going to happen.

So I think he's a bear. I think he's a charger. And I'll tell you, I'm not a huge cam fan. But there is something to be said about juice. And if you've had Tribisky and you watch Philip Rivers this year, you got no juice. And I think Cam would turn around those locker rooms. I think he would add just a big physical element to super athletic locker rooms. And the guys would buy into them.

I think they would. They buy into them. So that's exciting stuff. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Greg Kossel, 40 years at NFL films. That's a remarkable. right? We ever hear something? I've been married 40 years. I'm at a company

for 40 years. That guy knows where the bathrooms are. When you're at a company for 40 years, Greg Coselle is joining us. So, I'm watching. I just got into this discussion with Greg Jennings, Greg. And I said, if you told me three years from today, Kyler Murray or

Lamar Jackson, I would take Kyler Murray. I think he's got a Russell Wilson thing. I think the baseball thing, he slides. I think he's accurate. I think he throws a stunning football. He's got a rookie head coach, a bad offensive line, a rebuilding current situation. Baltimore is obviously incredibly well-run, smartly coached.

So what does the film say, Greg, on Kyler Murray? What do you see? Pretty positive. I think very much of what they do is also dependent on who they play. I mean, this past week, for instance, they played a buck's team that played Colin a ton of zone coverage. A buck's team that had played a lot of man prior to this, but they showed. goes to play zone against Kyler Murray in the cards.

And Murray was able to hit that back foot, deliver the ball comfortably, not really get out of rhythm. He's a very good thrower. You know, it's interesting you mentioned Lamar Jackson. We'll get to him in a while, but he runs a very specific offense. And I know people probably think that Cliff Kingsbury's offense is specific, but it's really not. He sort of evolved into running what NFL teams kind of do.

So it's – Kyle Murray is a very, very good thrower of the football. saw a lot of that this week. Everybody is selling their Sean McBazza Genius card and Jared Goff's worth the money card. It looks like interior offensive line issues to me. I think the Bears can beat the Rams this weekend. A year ago, everybody was copying the Rams, trying to be the next ram. Now it looks like they have an offensive line crisis to me. What's the film say?

And that's a major part of it because you have to understand that even though they threw for a lot of yards the previous two years, it was an offense built on a couple of things. Number one, it was built on the outside zone run game and the action that that created. It was built on jet motion and the action that that created. And all these expanded a defense vertically, and they were able then to stretch the field, they were able to stretch the field, excuse me, expand the offense horizontally and stretch the field vertically, and they created space. So what happens now with the O line not being very good, with the run game not being a factor,

they're in far too many third and long situations. Yes. Last year through nine games, they were not in as many. This year, I think, in something like 20 more third and seven-plus situations than they were a year ago through nine games, and that's a big, big number. And Gough is a – he's not the reason for this. He's a symptom of it because Gough is a programmed player who needs these things to work, and then he can throw the ball very well. Yeah. Sometimes you see an NFL game, and it just kind of changes the way you think.

And I went into Monday Night football thinking San Francisco would control Seattle. And then Josh Gordon mattered and Jadavian Clowney mattered. And I think to myself, well, maybe it's George Kittles' injury. What did you make of Seattle and the Niners? What jumped out to you? Very aggressive and challenging. And that's not the way they normally play. They had two boundary corner blitzes on the first possession.

They were very aggressive. Clowny clearly played the best game of his career. Yes. But so I think what they did without Kiddle being there as a true option, I think they were able to play that way. And Garapolo, I don't think Garoppolo played poorly. He missed some things. I thought the fact that Seattle came out really aggressively did, I don't want to say it took San Francisco by surprise, but I thought Garapolo on the first possession missed two open receivers within the context of the route concept and the read and didn't pull the trigger.

but there were also a number of drops that would have changed the game, and we might be having a different conversation. Yeah. Now, New Orleans loses to Atlanta. Every week in the NFL, we get a, what the hell just happened moment? Right, right. What happened to New Orleans usually robust offense? Well, first of all, they were totally out of whack with their run-pass ratio.

And that happens to a couple of games a year with Sean Payton. And sometimes they win those games, and we don't really notice it. But they were really out of whack in that regard. It was too many dropbacks for Drew Brees. They did not even attempt to run the Vol much at all. The other thing is their O-Line had a really uncharacteristically bad performance. They struggled with one-on-one blocks. They lost Andres Pete, I think, early in the second half,

and his replacement really struggled in past protection. Claiborne, who, it seems like twice a year has a great individual game, had a great individual game both rushing at D-end and at D-Tax. and they were really good with their stunt game. A lot of multiple stunt concepts and that caused problems for the Saints offensive line. Yeah, it happens. They were in that game. Again, when you don't establish the run, you got to at least try.

They didn't, and it got ugly. Now, I thought Dak Prescott played as well as I've seen him play. I think Minnesota's got a real defense. It's got, you know, players. I mean, real safeties, real linebackers, real. size. What is the, what is, but here's my concern, Greg. I believe a team like Baltimore has an identity.

When the Cowboys can't figure out late in a game to keep it in Dax hands, I question if they have a true identity offensively. I don't doubt their talent. But what is their offense? What is their identity? When do you like Dallas's offense the most? Well, they still give the ball to Zee quite a bit. He carried 20 times in that game.

I think most people would feel that certainly that Elliott was sort of the starting point of their offense. I know a lot of people talk in generalities and say, well, now it's transitioning to DAC, but there's still a team that will run the ball. They're a team that I'm struggling to figure out because I think offensively, I think they're a top five talent team in the league. Wow. Dax playing very well. They've got a great back. Their receiving trio at wide receiver is really, really good. The other thing that stands out is that Prescott is pristine in the pocket most of the time where there's no one around him.

So their offense on tape looks really good. So I'm really struggling to figure out why they're five and four because I think offensively that they're top five in the league. And they've got every dimension you could want. on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, no, and you know, they're much more functional as an organization, despite some, you know, vanity by Jerry. They draft well. They've got good young players everywhere.

I like their organization. I think, you know, the question you just said, why are they five and four? The numbers would tell you they shouldn't be. But it does, and I'm not one of these fire the coach guy, but is there a, are people, is Jason Garrett to you when you watch Dallas play? Do you think, oh, that's a brilliantly scheme team? Well, you know, I think you have to be careful with that.

And I'll tell you what, first of all, you and I don't know what goes into their game plans. Right. And neither do the fans. So what happens in games, like in their game this past week, when they got down inside the 10 and they handed the ball to Elliot, and of course because those plays didn't work, and that, of course, became too horrible calls. But, you know, they're a team that does a lot of different things. they have a very good run game for the most part. Obviously, this week, Elliot didn't gain a lot of yards,

but he's gained 100 yards a number of times this year. No one would argue, I don't think, that he's not a great back. So they have what you want. You can debate that. You know, it's funny. You know how this works. For the first three weeks of the season, Kellan Moore was a genius.

He's going to be the next head coach by week five. Then all of a sudden they lose three in a row, and he's too young. He doesn't know what he's doing. So, you know, you can't really have it both ways. You know, they're a really good offensive team. with a lot of weapons. And there's other teams, like they are so much more talented, let's say, than Philly,

who could be the slowest offense in the NFL. Wow. Wow. So that's Philadelphia host New England this weekend. So if you're Bill Belize, so you have been very critical of the Eagles. I like Zach Ertz, although I don't think he's dynamic. Not critical. The tape tells me.

And the tape tells you Philadelphia is just not special. They have Belichick. And again, I can't get into Belichick's head, but my sense is he's going to look at Eagles offense to this way. I'm going to deal with the Zach Ertz. So one of two ways. I'm either going to double him in critical situations or I'm going to do what I did in the AFC championship game a year ago and I'm going to put J.C. Jackson on him because that's what he did with Travis Kelsey in the AFC championship game and he took Kelsey out. And then I'm going to the only other player I really need to worry about is Miles Sanders. And I'm going to do particular things with him,

particularly when he's offset in the backfield. I'm going to have a defensive end instead of rush the quarterback. I'm going to have him run right at Miles Sanders and prevent him from releasing into routes. And then I'm going to just play man to man against the three wide receivers because I'm going to feel pretty comfortable that I can cover those three wide receivers. And since there's no speed, they're not going to beat me. Sounds like if I was a betting man, I'd take New England. That was a great breakdown right there. Well, that's what I think's going to happen. Yeah. Well, I'd usually agree with you. So I think I'm just going to go spend my 401k on New

England after that breakdown. Okay, we're going to have a big disagreement here. Are you ready for our biggest disagreement ever. All right, let's see. You like Mason Rudolph. I like what I've seen on tape. Now, he hasn't played enough for me to say that I like him and think that he's going to be a top ten quarterback in the league. I think the tape has shown some positive things. What?

I think that he's very strong and firm in the pocket. And he plays with great technique, holds the ball firm, is oblivious to bodies around him, and has shown the ability to make late in the down throws at the intermediate levels. And I really like that. He's not a mover. He's not going to run around and make plays. He's a certain kind of quarterback. But I think there's a toughness and kind of a physicality to his game.

Now, he's not a great thrower of the football. But he does stand there, firm, gets on his front foot, drives through throws, which allows him to throw at the intermediate level well. And that allows the digs. That allows the outs. So I think he's played well the last couple of weeks, yes. Okay, I'm going to give him one more. I'm going to give him tonight.

But just so you know, I'm not sitting here telling you that I think he's going to be a top five quarter. I'm just reacting to what the tape has shown in the last couple of weeks. It's just like people talk about Allen from Carolina. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that he's a big time starter going forward in the NFL, but he's now played seven or eight games and he's acquitted himself very well. There are certain things I like. There's a few other things that at times are troubling, but he's not been overwhelmed at all by any situation he's been in,

certainly was not overwhelmed playing in a Lambeau Field in a critical situation and has made some very good throws. Mason Rudolph, Kyle Allen, you're the GM. On the clock, who do you take? A tough call because Rudolph hasn't played enough for me to have a real strong point of view on that. All right, fair enough. I'm very tough on you today. I'm doing like...

No, that's okay. That's okay. I'm just going to tell you what the film shows. I know. That's why I like you. Like a film critic for guys in cleats. Yeah, you know? You're my film critic.

Okay, finally, Lamar Jackson's dynamic. I've heard people say, listen, this was Kaepernick. He had Greg Roman. It's the Kaepernick offense. And I've heard people say that. And Greg Roman did work with Kaepernick. I don't know that this is, what do you make of, he's your big play this week. What do you make of what you're seeing?

It's kind of wild and fun. Well, here's how I would answer that. I think this is a very intriguing offense because it's a very, if I have time, I'm going to tell you two things. It's very low risk, but extremely. extremely hard to defend. And number two, they play with multiple tight ends a lot, meaning two tight ends and three tight ends. So what do defenses do? They line up with their base personnel, which means they have bigger, slower people on the field. And now they run their offense, the Ravens, this multiple run-dimension offense that spread you out horizontally. And now you

have bigger, slower people on the field because they do it out of two and three tight-end sets. So I'm curious what defensive coordinators will do going forward because they're playing with slow people against Lamar Jackson. Even though they have two, three tight ends on the field, they then can't get to the perimeter to defend him. That's fascinating. What's your big play with him? Actually, what I decided to do is to show a pass because I thought this was very interesting. So let's run the play. Okay. I believe this was his last touchdown to Hollywood Brown.

And I want to show you why I really like this play. Number one, you're going to see Lamar Jackson. He's in an empty set. There's no back, just five receivers. And Marquise Brown is in the inside slot to the three-receiver side of the field. There will be two blitzers, a safety and a linebacker. They will attack Jackson from the same side. Another safety, Jesse Bates, will then end up matching up to Hollywood Brown,

because he has to. There's no other player who can match up. The two blitzers will come. Now, Jackson can see them and he can feel them. Brown hasn't even begun his break yet when Lamar Jackson starts to throw the ball. This is really, really good. Now, he knows where he's going and there's no defender there, so it's not as if it's a difficult read,

but it's a very good timing throw with great accuracy. And what I really liked about this, which will get a better feel from the end zone look at this, the two blitzers, again, they're going to come. There's no blocker because it's empty. There's no blocker for the safety Sean Williams, and the linebacker Hubbard actually gets in clean as well. So now you have two defenders bearing down on him, and he knows he's going to take a shot.

But I love the way he stood in there and delivered this ball. See, that to me is quarterback play. We know he's dynamic. We know he can run. That's a given. But to me, that was really good quarterback play, and I really liked that play. Yeah, he got smoked, by the way.

He did. That's a real hit. No, he did. When a 211-pound guy gets a free run at you with pads and stuff, that's a shot. All right, I like this. We were back. Okay, now, I'm going to go back on that Mason Rudolph thing.

I may be even tougher next week on that. Well, we'll see. I'm just telling you what the last two weeks have shown. Very good. Greg CoSell, 40 years NFL films. Thank you, sir. All right, Colin, thanks. One more herd?

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Two months. You are London. Very sophisticated. Pocket Square matches the tie. I like what you're doing right there. Thank you to Autumn downstairs, dressing rooms. Very nice. So what was London like, by the way?

They play over in the NFL. The players like it. They do. I went there. I was with Sky Sports. You didn't went for the Raider Bear game. I went Raider Bear and the Panther Box. And the players are good with it.

So they played at Totham State, the new stadium. Right. Unreal. They actually changed the pitch. They have grass for soccer, their football, and then they switch it to field turf for NFL football. And they have NFL-specific locker rooms. It's ridiculous. Wow.

So you were impressed with London and the NFL? Yeah, totally impressed. Thoroughly impressed. Okay, good for you. I'm going to London this April. Oh, very nice. Yeah, yeah. It's going to rain.

Let me know. I got you. What do you got me? Like, what do you need to go? What do you want to do? Okay. All right. Listen, I went to an autumn lunch at Fortinaw Mason's.

In the same room, Winston Churchill had his 71st. birthday. And next to me was Rachel Johnson. Boris Johnson's sister. So we were hanging out. We had wine, you know, had some duck. I'm not a duck fan. I never had duck.

I'm not a fan. This was great. All right. With Bojolet. What do you got? I hate eating things that I watched as a kid on the water. All right. Brown Steelers tonight. You played mostly for functional organizations. You played as a proud member of the New York Giants and the Green Bay Packers. And then you went

to Washington where it was dysfunctional. Well, I was in Jacksonville where it was rebuilt. It wasn't dysfunctional. It was rebuilding. Yeah. So I would think that when you look at the Cleveland Browns, that just, let me ask you, Freddie Kitchens, what would you do with them? What's wrong? I felt like what Freddie Kitchens, imagine you get, you're driving a car.

All you driven was an automatic car. My whole life. American made automatic car. And all of a sudden, you go in your garage and you had this Italian sports. car that's manual. You're like, how the hell do I drive this thing? Right. I feel like that's kind of what's going on.

He just doesn't know what to do with the parts. Because, I mean, we said this before. On paper, fantastic. What's going to happen when they start dealing with adversity, the culture? We talked about this before. And this was my concern. You said, if they lose three in a row, this is a losing culture. Right.

It's going to be, it's really tough. And you need someone who's able, who's, there who's able to handle that kind of adversity. I believe they have the right personnel in terms of players. I think they just need the right people who can manage that stuff. And I think right now we're Freddie Kitchens. Even when he got hired, he didn't have much experience of dealing with that kind of stuff. Kind of blown away by the Steelers, to be honest with you. I've been critical of Mike Tomlin. He and Pete Carroll can drive me nuts. Right. Pete was great on Monday night. Right. And Mike Tomlin, probably

my co-coach of the year. They both Steelers and Seahogs. They both always reset. Quickly. They never rebuild. You look at everything that the Steelers lost. Look at everything that Seattle lost. It's like, oh, no, no, we're just going to reset.

By the way, both super aggressive. Trade for Minka, trade for Clowney. Trade for Diggs. No, it's, let's go. And both paying off immediately. On Monday night, Diggs had a pick. Clowney had a touchdown. Clownie, the best he's ever Ever. Mika Fitzpatrick could be leading five pigs. Interesting.

He did what he's doing right now and half a season is all pro season for most defensive backs. Yeah. Mika Fitzpatrick. Who do you like tonight? Browns. Why? Look at your face. Why? Because you know what? I just As much as

Baker stresses me out, I still just believe in the kid. I do. I do. And I put out a tweet, I was like, Baker, get your stuff together. Let's go. And they end up coming through, winning that game last week. You're rooting for him. Yeah.

He's an underdog. I just feel like he is the type of quarterback that should be in Cleveland. Like they need somebody with his personality. Whether you like or not, he's going to be who he is. And yeah, it does drive me nuts sometimes. I wish I'm like, okay, Baker, chill out. But he's the guy. And Mason Rudolph, frankly, is Pittsburgh.

This is how they did it with Big Ben. Right. Throw 20 times a game, hand the ball off, good offensive line. People forget it. It took two years until they really let Ben make plays. It's true. What's happening for the Steelers is that these first-round picks are paying off ASAP. They're all good.

Like right now, T.J.O. Evan Bush, Minka. And then Joe Hayden is feeling he's healthy. When he's healthy, he's one of the top dudes. Okay, so you were over in London. And it was kind of the moment in the NFL season. The Raiders went over there and just punched Chicago right in the forehead. And I remember watching that game like, okay, timeout, reset. I don't get the league.

Well, they were losing. What did you make of the Raiders? What do you make of the Raiders? I truly commend the Raiders because they went through some serious drama that most teams cannot recover from. A-B situations a disaster. They could have that alone, you know. And then with Derek Carr talking about, hey, they might get Colin Murray, they might get a new quarterback. It's a rap. It's done for him. Burfect gets thrown out for the year.

It gets thrown out for the year. You know, bring in incognito. Like all these things that's going on. You have a new GM in Mayock that people say, oh, he can't do it. I just love the fact that they are together. And I believe this the six-week trip, or however long they were on the road, truly helped them. Yeah, I was out there. I got to talk to Derek Carr.

I did an interview with him. I got to talk to here, Whitehead. And they said that being together on the road for that long, I paid dividends in terms of everybody being together. Because it's just us. There's no, like, okay, we have a home game. Everybody part ways. go to your daily lives. We don't see each other until the next day.

No, we're on the road. This is us. This is all we have. And I think, and plus the type of people they brought in there, you know, one of their starters, Hunter Renfro, you know, he earned everything he's got. By the way, all their offensive pieces, incognito. Jacobs.

Jacobs. Hunter Refro. They have a tied end from LSU. They got late. Even Waller, the one who they paid. They stole it. Every bit. Say what you want about Gruden.

They have a story, man. All their offensive. guys have worked. They haven't with on any offensive guys. But they have a story where they have resilience, you know, where they have earned everything they have gotten. And they're fighting to either rebuild their identity, rebuild their career. It's something. And this is a place where I feel like they all get along with each other. So I'm going to throw this out to you. I'll catch it. So that's very good. So this weekend, Deshaun takes on Lamar. And Lamar is now the flavor of the month in the NFL. So we'll

poll came out yesterday on Bleacher Report. Would you rather start your franchise with Lamar Jackson or Russell Wilson? To that I say, pumped a break. Who asked that question? Who did it again? Drunk people. So here's my point. So here's my point. So this weekend, Deshawn's going to beat Lamar Jackson.

So here's my point. So does Sean Watson... Slow down. Just hear me out on this. I hear you, but you can say he's going to beat him. Deshawn Watson goes to two national championship games. That's cool. Mitch Trubesky and his own conference gets drafted ahead of him. No love. Deshawn's first NFL season, four-game stretch of 16 touchdowns, never been done.

The coach that year started Tom Savage over him, no love. Deshawn year two, off an ACL goes 11 and 5 with a bad offensive line and a coach we don't like. Mahomes gets the awards, no love. Year three, he's completing 70%. We still don't like the head coach. 18 DD's 5 picks. Lamar Jackson gets the love.

What is it about Deshawn Watson? Tribisky got the love. Mahomes got the love. Lamar Jackson got the love. I saw him play Deshawn Watson. Deshawn gets love. No, not even close to Mahomes. Not even close to Lamar Jackson.

That's not true. Today, franchise. Mahomes, Deshawn Watson. Who do you pick? Franchise right now. Deshawn Watson. Thank you. I got nothing against to Mahomes.

Nothing against. I love Mahomes. Okay, so why would you pick Deshawn Watson over Mahomes? I feel like what I saw last year, In a loss in the playoffs with the Sean Watson, nothing was going right. And he just made his mind up. I'm just going to go and try to win this game, period. Where there was times where guys might have been open, he's like, I'm not throwing.

I'm just going to run for it. I'm just going to keep going. With him, I just, he's never rattled. Ever. Never rattled. It's really remarkable. Yeah. He just keeps getting diss.

Tribisky, Tom Savage. And people can say what they want about the coach. They might not like it. But he's overcame any situation. He had to take a bus. He keeps losing receivers. He went through like five running backs. Offensive line, decimated.

He gets beat up every year. He took a bus. To a game. Took a bus to a game just to play in the game. Yeah. I think he's going to be, I think the headline Monday is going to be, oh, Deshawn. Deshawn. Deshawn is a unique.

Could you have been, your fastest, could you outrun Lamar Jackson? No. I don't think so, right? What did you run a 40 in? 4-4-1. Really? Wow. What is this?

What is this? That's fast. You always felt like a 4-5-4 guy to me. Really? That's messed up. I will throw this microphone across the room. That is messed up, man. I didn't train for the 40 either.

I couldn't imagine if I trained for it. Okay, so Tom Brady, he said he's going to play until he's 47 years old. How old are you today? I turned 35 a week ago, two weeks ago. Tom Brady's 42, still in the league. He's a quarterback. That's some of it. That's a lot of it.

Let me ask you this. Would you want to play football at 47? Would you want to? The practice, the grind, the weather, would you want to? You're a bomb-in-von-von. If I'm him, absolutely not. I did everything. See, I think a lot of people, I think the psychology...

I did everything, you know? Sometimes, maybe that's just his driving factor. Your last year in the league were you done with football? No. You wanted to play? Yeah. I didn't retire on my own. I never really announced that I retired.

They just assumed I did. They just put on my Wikipedia. Retired. I didn't ask for it. It's on your Wikipedia? I just had a workout a month ago. With who? Oakland.

So they had called you? Joy. In London. How about that? Oh, you were over there. Covering it? When I was there covering it. Funny story.

So I was there. I was talking to Mayok and DeWan Joseph. Yeah, I was talking those guys and we were trying to figure out of time. They had interest to work me up. And I was like, we can in agreement. Hey, we're going to be in London at the same time. So on Wednesday, I go there with my credentials as an analyst, and I interview a bunch of players. And Mike's like, come on Friday.

I was like, all right. I came Friday. I had my cleats. It was raining. It was windy. It was gross. And I worked out on that Friday. How did you do okay?

I lit it up, dude. What's that mean? Which means I'm on the short list, which means of, you know. Lit it up. Yeah. Tackling dummies? What did you do? So it got to the point where I was like, no, I did a bunch of defensive back drills.

And they had Sean Kaiser throwing the ball. I mean, literally from the Pacific to the Atlantic Ocean. I had to chase that ball down. But I wanted to know. Am I delusional? I know how I feel. I know how I look. Let me know.

Like, tell me, be real. What did they say? I should shut it down. And they're like, dude, you got action. You should still be playing. We were going to just push on a ready list, but we moved you up to the short list, meaning like, hey, you know, we make a push these playoffs. We need some more veteran guys.

Are you staying in shape? Are you just in a fantastic shape, dude? You're not home just eating. you know, stuff. Nah, dude, yeah, I work out every day. All right. Like, what do you mean? I work out every day.

What do you do? 4.30 in the morning for three years. I've been working out. What do you do in your workout? Goulet works out. That doesn't mean anything. No, I don't. I have a big bag of free dos after a couple sit-ups.

I don't destroy myself. I just, I eat well for the most part. You know, I do, you know, I just make sure I weigh a certain way. I need a weigh. All right. Any good wines, we should, before we let you go. Oh, yeah. By the way, so everyone on Saturday, go to my, at N.

at NFL wine guy, I will be live at a champagne tasting. Dude, you stop playing. You're gone. You are a sophisticate. What do you mean? I drink wine when I played. So what is your NFL wine guy? Yes. Okay.

All right. It's great seeing you again. You sound like a hater right now. Not at all. No. No, hey, listen, I'm a journalist. When you're a journalist, you have to ask probing questions. That wasn't a probing question.

It was like disinterested. You know, it's like. No, I think I like your wine. career. I have a wine store in Connecticut. Nobody goes, but I like it. It's a nice business to be in. Don't make any money. Worst investment of my life, but it's fun to have. Not the restaurant. No, restaurant is smoke show. Last night, Herd Burger, lines around the block. People like it. Wine stores, no money in it. Huh? When are we going? Is it? Torn's California. Yeah, Torrance, is that? Yeah, Torrance, California. What's up? Nice. Can I get like a coupon or something?

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