Best of The Herd: 11/19/2019
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01:41this is clivert taylor the fourth and on my podcast the clivert show i'm bringing you conversationsabout all kinds of stuff like being an internet famous referee we're in the middle of a gamethis linebacker this linebacker walks up to me he goes a ref my mom wants you to wave at her whatTime out.Quarterback on office blue with 42.Hey, Rhett, my mama want you to weigh better.What?Hey, Ms. Parker.
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02:38on Fox Sports Radio.Oh, best showof the week. Here we go. It's a Tuesdaylive in Los Angeles.This is The Herd.Wherever you may be and however you may be listening,we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, andFS1. Our herd hierarchy
02:54in one hour, top 10 NFLteams, I will have a shockingteam. I amacknowledging how wrong I was.I am going all in on a team.It's crazy town, and I can't wait for it.Joey Taylor is joining me, Joy Howard.You got Kansas City Chiefs colors on this morning.
03:12I do.That was a nice Chiefs win, hard-fought indivision win.Is that what you saw?Well, look, you know, you got to win the games you play.Yeah.You saw you've been really impressed with that.Well, I would have been very unimpressed if they didn't beat the Chargers.That Chargers scene.
03:29Can I start with this?And I am joking around with joy.All you New England haters, okay, what's wrong with the Patriots?What's wrong with the Patriots?It's not wrong with the Patriots.I don't know.They're 9 and 1 in favor by a touchdown over Dallas Sunday.And if they win, you can just put in a buy one home game for the playoffs and they're in the
03:50AFC championship.What's wrong with the Patriots?What's wrong with the Chiefs?What do they do well?Patrick Mahomes is talented.I get it.Andy reads a great play designer.I get it.
04:00That's kind of one and the same, right?I mean, Patrick Mahomes led him in rushing last night.Knee cap injury, Patrick Mahomes.That's what you want?Every couple years, we find a new team that we're absolutely sure is going to unseat the Patriots.There was the LT Chargers, Big Ben, Lavian Bell, A, B, Steelers, Andrew Luck, Colts.The Jags had a couple of cracks at New England.The Houston Texans in their Letterman jackets.
04:28And now it's Patrick Mahomes.homes and Kansas City and then no no these teams are not unseating the New England Patriots that gameshouldn't have been 2417 you're a plus plus to me on turnovers philip rivers old unathleticinaccurate philip rivers four picks and 18 seconds to go the chargers have a chance in the red zoneto tie the game that game shouldn't even have been close should not have even been close againYou keep telling me you've got these teams over the last 15 years that are going to unseat the Patriots.And what's wrong with the Patriots?Patriots just went on the road and won.
05:07And they're a touchdown favored over Dallas, meaning they're probably going to win.It's Foxborough.It's getting cold and windy.And we're going to wake up and they're going to be 10 and 1 and virtually assured of a buy a home field playoff game against an inferior team.Win it.You're in the AFC championship.My question is, what's wrong with Kansas City?They are the latest flashy, fun, crazy.
05:33And you wake up and you're like, this is what they are.This much better than the Raiders.That's what they are.They're just a little better than the Raiders.And you know what?The identity of the Chiefs is two Patrick Mahomes.They remind me of those Peyton Manning Colt teams,which left a lot of Super Bowl championships on the table.
05:53They remind me of the Aaron Rogers teams, 2011 to 2018.If Aaron wasn't great, they didn't win.And I criticize Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick.I'm always like, could you guys put your arms around Brady and Russell Wilson?Could you just put your arms, give them a big hug?But I'll say this about Seattle and New England.Their sole identity is never Russell Wilson or Tom Brady.Seattle can always beat you different ways.
06:18They can run the football, take it away.Russell, defense.We watched San Francisco.Defense was a huge component, Jadavia and Clowney.And we watched New England the other night,teams. Edelman a trick play. Secondary is great against Carson Wins. Kansas City. This is just,this is L.T. and the Chargers, Big Ben with great weapons, Andrew Luck in the Colts, Houston in theLetterman jacket. You know, that's what this is. It feels like, okay, now you're going to tell me it's
06:46Baltimore. Now, they are interesting, but I start looking around at Kansas City last night,and I'm sorry. Like, this is the team that's going to knock off. You tell me what they do well.They designed plays brilliantly and Patrick Mahomes is great.Okay, I saw that with Peyton Manning and Indy.I saw it with Aaron Rogers and Green Bay.You're going to leave a lot of Super Bowls on the table and you're not going to get to a lot of them doing that.Let's shift to a very urgent topic.Not just because I live in Los Angeles, but this league right now has so many dynamic fun, great quarterbacks.
07:16It is so much fun.Philip Rivers has become James Winston.I cannot sit here and criticize James Winston as a turnover machine and then say,I love Philip Rivers. I mean, James Winston, Tampa, move on. I mean, six years in, five years in,he's a turnover machine. Philip Rivers has become James Winston. You looked down at thestature like, oh my God, 440 yards, 6 and a half yards of pass, 28 to 52, a 23 first downs. Boy,he fills up a box score. Oh, wait, what's that four? Or four interceptions. I mean,that's James Winston. Every time I watch James Winston, I'm like, oh my guy, threw for 350 yards.
07:53You got 25 first down. You got.I got four interceptions.It's time for the Chargers to move off Philip Rivers.I like Philip Rivers.He doesn't want to move his family from San Diego to L.A.And next year at this time, the Chargers are playing in L.A.They can't sell any tickets.They have no juice in the market.
08:11They've got to get a star at quarterback.And my gut feeling is it's Cam.And I think that's their deep second choice.But he is a discount right now, what he's making money.In the NFL, Cam's a discount.I think he's their deep second.Or make a run at Tua.It's all working out.
08:27Every single team that's moved off an old, unathletic, older quarterback is happy today.Now, Philip Rivers is the best one of those old unathletic quarterbacks.By far, he's better than Eli.He's better than Dalton.He's the best one.I'm not disputing that.He's still got two years left somewhere.Maybe it's a Carolina.
08:45But everybody that's moving off the old athletic guy to the dynamic new guy as the NFL changes,this league is changing.And it's not changing in Philip Rivers direction.It is a precision league.It's a cut down your mistakes league.It's a just run for a first down.If you can't find an open receiver league, you can't just keep throwing it into traffic.I mean, Philip Rivers after the game admitted last night.
09:09I mean, this guy, for the record, remember against the Raiders 10 days ago?How bad he was in the two-minute drill?He just looks old and unathletic and the Chargers offensive line like almost all in the NFL now is not very good.This is the new league.Battle lines?Didn't used to be this 10 years ago.But with a new CBA, offensive lines outside of Pittsburgh and Dallas are mostly crap.And they're going to be crap.
09:34Indianapolis has a good one.Dallas has a good one.Pittsburgh's, outside of that, there's about 20 Mez.And that's the way it's going to be.So you have to, the new NFL is you have to get a quarterback that can move.Kyler Murray with no offensive line, very, very interesting.It's not just, it's not that the league is going.they're all going to be Lamar Jackson.
09:54I mean, he's an outlier.I mean, he doesn't exist on the market.But they're going to look a lot like Kylerbury and a lot like Sam Darnold and a lot likeDaniel Jones and a lot like DeShon Watson where, oh, they can throw.But with bad online play, now the rule, not the exception, and that's not going to change.They're not going to add more practices and more hitting in the NFL with this safetyconcern around the league.This is the new NFL.
10:21You cannot be old and unathletic quarterback.I said this.It's not an either or anymore.It's not, I want a pocket guy or a mobile guy.No, no, no, no.You got to have both.You've got to have a pocket guy who can move.Phillips the least athletic guy in the league now that Eli Manning's not playing.
10:38And I'll tell you right now, they have a chance.Two things going for the Chargers.They're moving to a new stadium, can't sell tickets.Right now they have the 11th pick in the draft.And the Chargers are very unique.They have a good roster.They got two, three good courts.corners. They got two good pass rushers. They got all sorts of stuff. If I'm the Chargers at number
10:5611, I call the New York Jets at 5 and I say, let's flip spaces. We'll give you our number two corner.Maybe I'll, and if the Jets play hardball, give us one of your pass rushers, we'll take that moneyoff the table. And if I'm the Chargers, I go after Tua because Cincinnati's taking aquarterback and Miami's taking a quarterback and Tua is going to drop. And if I'm the Chargers,today. You need juice. This roster is too good. We've got a changing league. I'm the Chargers.I go hard after Tua. And I call the New York Jets who have a corner issue, a wide receiver issue,a pass rusher issue. And you get on the phone and say, we got two all everything here.We got two good receivers. Chargers have two good receivers, two good pass rushers, two good backs,
11:45two good corners. Go get the number two at any of those positions, flip picks. Jets arewould gladly move down to 11 or 12, their need offensive line will be available at 11, 12, 13, or 14.But Tua won't be available there because people are going to pass on him.They're not going to pass on Tua very long.And he would be the star L.A. needs.He would be the juice L.A. needs.He would sell tickets.He would be the mobile quarterback in a conference now that's got Mahomes and Derek Carr.
12:16I mean, I think it's, this is what I love about sports.It's constantly fluid.It's Silicon Valley.It's changing.You've got to keep up.Battle lines is the new reality.That's the new NFL.Translation, it's not an either-or quarterback.
12:35Got to get a dude that can move.Okay?Justin Herbert, Oregon, can move.Joe Burrell was a high school, all-state basketball player, can move.Tua can move.By the way, next year, Trevor Lawrence can move.Justin Fields can move.Two guys on the market.
12:48One of them is Cam.He can move.Philip Rivers felt bad afterwards.By the way, he knows it's a problem afterwards.It's a football game.I mean, you know, if you could just pick and choose and never throw them ever,I'd choose to throw zero.So certainly don't want to throw them, but certainly I know it's hurting us right now.
13:09So, you know, obviously need to cut them out.This is perfect.The Chargers have two good pass rushers, two good corners, two good corners,good backs. Two good receivers. Give up the second best at one of those spots to move up with theJets or a team like the Jets and solve quarterback. Get juice, get mobile, get athletic. Because you'renot beating Derek Carr and Patrick Mahomes the next eight years with that. You might as well make a move.This is an NFL draft with three elite prospects. Next year's got two elite prospects. You've got five A plusprospects coming in. You got Cam on the market who would be my second choice.
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14:55pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway.Open your free iHeartRadio app.Search Learn the Hardway and listen now.Last night, a blown call changed a game.This morning, the internet lost its mind.Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly whathappened.That's where Sports Slice comes in.
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15:41Sports slice brings you closer to the action.with stories told by the people who live them.Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.And on my podcast, The Clivert Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.Like being an internet famous referee.We're in the middle of a game.
16:06This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.What?Time out.Quarterback on office blue with 42.Hey, Brett.My mama want you to weigh better.What?
16:23Where's she at?Hey, Miss Parker.Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.And I'm Kunky, his best friend and business manager.And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.We also love sports.
16:52And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.One of the things that drives me crazy sometimes with people in general.general. So I tell my therapist, you know, when people live in a tunnel and they can't see out ofthe tunnel, like Philadelphia guy thinks everybody loves the Eagles or they're against the Eagles. Andmost people, frankly in America, don't care about the Eagles. Outside of Philadelphia, nobody wakes upworrying about the Eagles. We're not for you. We're not against you. We don't give a rip. I do likeCarson Wentz in the front office. And when I lived in the East Coast, Boston is one of these cities where
17:42they think everybody just cares about the Red Sox? No. They care about the Yankees. People thinkeverybody cares about the Patriots. No, they care about the Cowboys. So Dallas plays New Englandthis week. Dallas is overwhelmingly the number one brand in America in sports. It's not close.Eight of the top 50 TV ratings in America last year were cowboy games. That includes alltelevision. Eight out of 50. And the Cowboys were nine and seven. They're not winning Super Bowlslike New England. So Brady was asked on WDEEI if he thinks the Patriots, and it doesn't surpriseme that a New England host, hey, are we America's team in New England? And Brady, smart, self-awarenessfrom California, traveled the world, big picture guy, you know, not Patrick O. Sullivan from
18:33South the Brady's like, slowdown, slowdown. New England's not America's team.I mean, I don't think we're probably America's favorite team at this point.So I think we've got six states that cheer for us.So six is better.Most teams have like one state or a little bit of an area, but we got six.So I think that's pretty good.The fans we have, we really appreciate and they come out and support us.But we have a lot of non-fans, too.
19:00I'll put it that way.And by the way, I don't think Connecticut supports the Patriots.I think it's 50-50 with the Giants and the Patriots.Goules from Connecticut.It's a borderline New York giant state over a Patriot state.And by the way, if the Patriots went 5 and 11, 5 and 11, 5 and 11 when Brady retires, nobody would care.They would be the Toronto Raptors.Nobody would care.
19:21Dallas is Starbucks.Everybody's, and it's popular everywhere.The Patriots are Dunkin' Donuts.The further you get away from New England, nobody cares.There's only three real brands in this league in the NFL.Dallas is one.Pittsburgh, 2, Green Bay is 3.is no number four. Number four is based on who's winning. If Drew Brees won a Super Bowl,
19:42the Saints would be number four. San Francisco with Montana, they were a four. You know,Bradshaw with the Steelers, you know, when you get these big iconic brands like Green Bay withFarr, Dallas with Aikman, Big Ben, Bradshaw with the Steelers, they challenge the Cowboys,but they never surpass them. You know, Farrv with the Packers, Aikman with the Cowboys,that's about as close as you can get to surpassing Dallas when you got to.the handsome, the star quarterback.But the fourth most popular team in this league,it just, you know, Seattle with Russell Wilson for two years was wildly,
20:16you know, Philadelphia for about an hour, the Giants winning Super Bowls.But it's a three-team brand league.Nobody's ever surpassed the Cowboys.There's a rule in the NFL.You cannot put any team, what's the rule?There's a, it's a TV rule on prime time.You can't have any team on more than six times.That's called the Cowboy Rule.
20:35otherwise everybody would put the Cowboys.I mean, at Fox, we'd put them Sunday night football, Monday night football.Last year, I think they were the highest rated game on four to five networks.Our CBS, Sunday night, Monday night, they have to create rules so that you don't put the Cowboys on prime time.So Brady gets it.Brady gets it.Like the Cowboys have always been number one.This rating Sunday night for the Cowboys and the Patriots will be.
21:05huge. It's 75% of cowboy rating, 25% of Tom Brady rating. I don't think the Patriots, if they lost,would be in the top 12 to 15. I really don't. I really do. Russell Wilson didn't play for theSeahawks. That's not a top 15 brand. Seahawks were never nationally relevant until Russell Wilsongot there. That's why these star quarterbacks in the NFL, they're worth $100 million a year.I mean, you can't, what is, what is the Seattle Seahawks?brand without Russell Wilson. What if Matt Flynn was a starter six years now? That's not a nationalbrand. Montana likes them. Washington likes them. Oregon kind of likes them and Idaho likes them.So it's just nice to see that Brady has an understanding of sort of the big picture. He may live in
21:53Boston. He's not of Boston. He may also read Forbes where they very clearly stated that DallasCowboys are the most profitable sports organization in the world. There's other countries.on this planet. And in all of those countries, the Cowboys are the most profitable in the world.They're the biggest brand in the world when it comes to sports. Period. I don't even thinkin the NFL, it's Green Bay with Fav got close. Big Ben Bradshaw Steelers moved close.Aikman Cowboys got close. Or like Aikman Cowboys was, in my estimation, Aikman Cowboys was the mostpopular the Cowboys have ever been. Yeah. They pulled.away from the league in popularity.
22:37Now, you know...You don't have to love the Cowboys,but you just can't argue with those numbers.Facts or facts?The star on the Cowboy logois a symbol of American football.The Patriot logo is a symbol in Boston.I mean, and I'm a Patriot Homer.
22:54I'm a Brady Homer.But that brand is Brady.That brand is Belichick.It's not the logo.It's not the brand.What's going on, everybody?John Middell Koff,three and out podcast.
23:04That'd be me.And that's the show.If you like football, you will like this podcast because that's all I talk.Coming up on this show, Mexico City, what was up with that field?Philip Rivers, is it over?Why John Harbaugh has copied Jim Harbaugh and is working.Tom Brady, what was up with that performance and Tua?Where's he going to go in the draft?
23:24Again, three-and-out podcast with me, John Middlecock.Three Super Bowl rings.Future so bright he wears shades off into these shows.Two-time pro bowler.Mark Schlarith is joining us, who, by the way, so you've done.some Panthers. You've done a lot of that NFC South. So tell me I'm nuts on this.Okay, so we got three A prospects coming into football. We've got about 10 to 12 to 13 really goodyoung quarterbacks. I count Garoppolo Carr same age. So, and with the deterioration of
23:52offensive lines, there is no, you can't argue this. That's the new normal. It's like securityat the airport. It's going to be an hour. That's the new normal, right? And so you got to havesome athletic ability at quarterback. Now, Teddy does notprovide that. That's my only knock on Teddy. But if you look at what Teddy Bridgewater provides,Carolina to me, they want to move off Cam, but they don't know how to do it. You've done thatthe vision. Am I nuts to say Bridgewater is a natural. Cam will go somewhere in the market.Bridgewater to Carolina. Yeah, no, you know, I'm sitting over there, and I heard that for the first time,and I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit. Normally I like to come on here and bust you,
24:34But I don't think you give yourself enough credit because remember when Bridgewater took the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs, I believe.You know who was the offensive coordinator?Norv Turner.You know who the offensive coordinator is in Carolina?North Turner.I mean, that does make a lot of sense.And they've had success with Teddy Bridgewater.There is no question about that in, you know, Minnesota before you had that horrific knee injury.
24:57Chicago's not going to go for him because of his arm is limited to windy cold northern division.So the northern teams are like out on him.It's dome teams or southern teams, and I think it works.And I want to talk about this, too, with Mark Slarrow.So there are these teams that want to move off quarterbacks, but they don't have a solution.Eli, the Giants wanted to move off Eli for a year and a half.They didn't have a solution.Correct.
25:17Daniel Jones looks good in camp, out.Cam Newton, they were hoping Kyle Allen's the solution.He's not Teddy could beat.So Philip Rivers, they've got two good pass rushers in the charges.Two good receivers, two good backs, two or three good corners.They can move the second best at any of those and move up in the draft.They can't sell tickets.They're moving into a stadium.
25:42Philip doesn't want to live in L.A.You call me crazy.To sell tickets in this town, they need juice at quarterback.I'd go after Tua.I'd move off Philip Rivers.I know he's an old...Yeah, but I mean, I would look at Tua.I mean, the plan is, like, is he injury prone?
26:00How's he going to come off this hip?We don't know.I would say this, and you talked aboutoffensive line being an epidemic, and I travel aroundcalling games, I talk to general managers all the timewho say, how would you fix it?How would you fix the issues that are going onin the NFL right now?
26:16And a lot of it, you know, a lot of it is becauseyou have created a league in which, you know,you can't work on that skill.That's right. And that is like...That's an unsolvable problem.Right. That is a, I mean, moving a man from point A to point Bagainst his will is one of the greatest skills in football.and you have eliminated the opportunity to work on that skill.
26:36And then you wonder why you're no good up front.So there's a big issue there, and it's an epidemic.Not only that, think about the freak shows that you have to block on a week-to-week basis.Guys are bigger, stronger, faster.I mean, they're running 4-4 off the corner, and they're 260 pounds.I mean, it's ridiculous.So this is my point.There are things in sports that are solvable.
26:56You know, replay.You can, right now, everybody's freaking out about the pass-interference replay thing.change the rule and solve it. I think offensive line play is not solvable. College is doing thespread. So outside of an occasional Wisconsin offensive lineman, nobody's a road grader. They don't exist.And the NFL is not going to add more practices and more hitting with offensive linemen,the unit that needs it. Bad quarterback, bad O line play is here. Philip Rivers, Eli Manning.You can't win that. You can't have an old and athletic guy. You've got to move at quarterback.I mean, Darnold, last two weeks, is running for his life and they're winning, but it's like, Philip Rivers has six picks in those games.
27:40Right. You know what's interesting about that? You go statistically, show me the top five teams as far as run percentage is concerned.The percentage of times they run the football. Because you can fix O-line issues. This is where I would disagree with you. You can fix O-line issues if you have a coach that understands O-line problems.Right? You have to be intelligent enough to know.what the issues are so that you can address the issues.But if you are a team that just wants to spread you out and throw it, you know, every singletime, you show me the teams that have the top percentage.San Francisco.Top running percentage.
28:16San Francisco.You've got, you've got.Saints, when they generally the Saints.I mean, you've got New England.You've got, I mean, the five top, the five top teams, you look at the bottom teams,I guarantee you, the Jets, Minnesota, excuse me, Miami, I know Atlanta.is number one. They're three and seven right now. They're number one as far as percentage.They throw it 70% of the time, 69.7% of the time. You cannot, you expose your issues up front when you
28:44play the game that way. So those issues, like, you're not all of a sudden going to be more athleticthere or all of a sudden you're going to find road graders in college. What you have to do is understandhow to call plays, how to put a game plan together that protects those guys and yet is still dynamic.And the league is shifting.It is.There's this cyclical changeto people are looking at it and going,we better start to learn how to dictate
29:08in situational footballwhen we have to dictate in the running game.Not popping a draw on third and six for 30 yardsand going, look, let's celebrate.We know how to run the ball.No, you don't.You got to be able to run it downwhen you third down and two.
29:21You better know how to run the ball.Eight-man fronts, nine-man fronts.That's all you see when you get in the red zone.You damn well better understandhow to run the ball in those situations.And if you don't,you're not a very good football team.I said I'd buy two Raiders season tickets, give them to a charity if they were 500 or better.
29:36I think I'm going to lose the bet.I think they'll beat the Jets this weekend.Mike Mayock, I'm watching the – I watched the Raiders on Sunday.I'm not sure – to me, are we sure Kansas City is better than the Raiders?If they are, probably at the end of the year, they're better than the Raiders because they host them December 1st,and that'll be the game Kansas City wins.you know Mayok.Sure. Raiders offensive pieces.
30:02Mayok's hit home runs.Gruden's offense is clever, power, smart, finesse, efficient.It's everything.Listen, there's no question.What people don't understand about Mike Mayock is Mike Mayock comes from a familywhere his dad was an offensive line coach.So I've had conversations this season with Mike Mayerbecause I've done a couple of Raider games where he's just like,
30:22listen, I have built this team based on my father's philosophy from the inside out.You look at their offensive line.You Hudson's an all pro.Richie Uncognito can flat out play, and he's playing great right now.The Colton Miller kid left tackle has really played well.Yeah, I mean, but I mean, I'm talking about Gabe Jackson,and then they went out and got Trent Brown.So they solidified their front guys.
30:44They've got the Jacobs at the running back position, Hunter Refro.They built it from the inside out.They play with three legit tight ends.I mean, they are, like you watch them.They could be a power team.Oh, my, they want to, I called their game in Chicago when Chicago was still good.They were the reason Chicago's defense is struggling right now,because they opened up the blueprint on how to just absolutely bludgeon.
31:09They thunder punched them in the lips from the opening play of the game.And I'm telling you what, they double teamed at the point,and they just piled drove the Chicago Bears.And they had no answer for it.And I'll tell you what, they can do that to just about anybodybecause of the way Mike Mayock has built them.They have three running backs that all look the same.Jacobs is the best.
31:28Then they have possession guys like a Hunter Renfro.The tight end, they got Darren.Waller.Waller is a great story out of the league, kicked out, was a drug user, went to rehab.He's completely turned his life around.And he is a, he's 65, he's 265.And he is put together, and he is not afraid to block people.He's one of the few guys.
31:51He's like George Kittle in the NFC who will block youand also run routes around you.He is not afraid to get his hands dirty.I really like their foot.I mean, I want to vomit in my mouth right now.I just said I really like the Raiders.You're saying a lot of nice thing about the Raiders.When I watch the Raiders, they match up with a Baltimore Raven.
32:1073% completion percentage.Power running backs.Good old line.Their defense does not match the Ravens defense.The Ravens defense.You look what the Ravens did.They got rid of C.J. Mosley.They got rid of Smith on the outside.
32:23is Daria Smith.They got rid of Weddell,and their defense is outrageous.I love Wink Martindell, their coordinator.He is one of those guys that say,hey, if I'm going to lose,I'm going to lose punching you in the face.There is nobody who blitzes more.
32:36There's nobody who plays more man coverage,and they're just like, bring it.Let's go.We can line up with you.Okay, you said you like the Raiders.Do you like the Cowboys?Because you grew up, you know,Washington Redskine, Denver Bronco,
32:50Cowboys on the road, New England.biggest regular, I never preview NFL games on Tuesday.Right.I can't, this game says so much.The outcome could mean so much.What do you make of Dallas at New England?Seven point dog.That's like, I was shocked.
33:06That to me is not the talent of the football team or the way that.That to me is, is this team ready on a big stage to be mature enough to make the playsagainst Tom Brady, the New England Patriots, right?I mean, Tom even comes out.they're still America's team, which always drove me crazy.You know, the star on your helmet with the Dallas Cowboys.You'd be, like, you go to Dallas, man.You'd be sitting on the bench.
33:30Like, you sit on the bench.And it just makes you want, I mean, it just make you sick.Everything was sponsored.It does.This third down brought you by TCBY yogurt, the official yogurt of America's team.You know, and you'd be like, I hate the cowboys.But they are what they are.But I think this spread says to me more about,
33:51won New England's defense, right?And how will DAC and how willthe Cowboys attackthat? And I just say, I thinkit says to me it's about the coaching and aboutthe maturity level of the Dallas Cowboys.Are you ready? I mean, come on, youhad, you had Minnesota
34:07at home on a Sunday,I think it was a Sunday night game, Minnesotaat home, where Kirk Cousinshas all these demons. He can't exercisethe demons of prime timeagainst a 500, above 500team and all this stuff. And you let themgo 13 plays, 10 running plays at the end to go up, you know, to go up on you and, you know,
34:27in a drive at the end of the game in the fourth quarter, whatever it was, I can't rememberthe exacts of that.But the bottom line is you let Kirk Cousins who you couldn't hold him down.And that to me is what that says.That lines an indictment.If I said to you, let's just do this top of our head, 10 best players in this, I always dothis.Sometimes when I bet on Friday and I'm undecided, 10 best players in a game, Zique would
34:51be in the 10. No question. Amari Cooper's in the 10. Sure. One of the two cowboy linebackers is in the 10.Yes. Jalen Smith's probably having a better year. But they're both, they're both outstanding.DeMarcus Lawrence is in the top 10. Yeah. Tyron Smith Cowboys is in the top 10. Zach Martin's in the top 10.Okay. Right. Okay. So Stefan Gilmore's in the top 10. Brady's in the top 10. You start looking at it.What do you have left now? You have one? I'm a... I'm a... I'm a... I'm a...At nine now?I'm at eight.At eight.
35:25I think one of the McCordy brothers may be in the ten.Sure, sure.But my point is Dallas is a seven-point dog and may have seven of the ten best players in the game.I don't think Dax's very far out of the top ten, to be honest with you right now.I think he'd probably be in there at nine or ten.The way he's playing, he probably beat.So this is essentially an indictment on the coaching staff of Dallas.That's what that number is to me.
35:48Yeah, yeah.Like I said, this is Belich.versus Jason Garrett, and this is, you know, your maturity or lack thereofversus our defense and our maturity and our coach.By the way, a minute and a half left, Patrick Mahomes led Kansas City in rushing,got four picks, and at the end, Chargers going 18 seconds red zone for a tie.Kansas City is the latest Patriot beater in the AFC.What do they do well?
36:19I know Mahomes is great.What do they do well?Well, you know, they're built to me.They're built as a regular season football team.While you look at the Kansas City Chiefs,and I don't have any stats, I just watch games, right?I just call games and watch games.You look at them, I guarantee you off the top of my head.
36:34They've got more 40-plus yard touchdowns than any team in the league.You know why?Because they're that athletic and they're that dynamic.And when you go week to week to week, like you do in this league,you're going to beat teams with big-time plays when you have those big-time athletes.You get in the playoffs in Clement Weather,good football teams.Better coaches.
36:53They don't give up 40-yard touchdowns.Never.They don't.Like, you look at, go back to the Raiders game.I think it was week two.The Raiders gave up like four 40-yard touchdowns in the second quarter.They end up losing the game, 10, 28 to 10.Like, it just doesn't happen come playoff time.
37:10And I just don't think you're built to win in the playoffs.I just don't.I think they're the Houston Rockets.They are great.And all of a sudden, you get to the playoffs and it's like,you know, your back court has to play.Some of defense.Andy Reid is Mike Dantone, right?
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40:56Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.Heard hierarchy.Time is now.Let's go.The top 10 NFL teams, according to college.Number 10.Kansas City, what do they do well?I love Andy Reid's play designing and I love Patrick Mahomes talent.
41:20But they're 26th in total defense.They're 30th in rush defense.and I'm sorry if you can't get New England off the field or Baltimore off the field or Indianapolis off the field,you're not winning any playoff games.You cannot be this bad running the football.Last night they got four picks and the Chargers were going for the tie with 18 seconds left in Mexico City.They simply don't do enough well.They get to the quarterback pretty well, but you know when your offense won't be on the field
41:50because you can't stop the Ravens running game, your 10th in the end.NFL. Number nine. I think the Raiders right now do more well than the Kansas City Chiefs.The Raiders have allowed the second fewest sacks, their offensive lines better. The Raiders aretied for fourth in giveaways with only 10. They don't turn it over. They're healthier than KansasCity. They run the football better than Kansas City. They've won five of their last seven and they'vegone up against teams like Chicago and pushed them around. This is a real Raiders team. I wastotally wrong on it. Mike Mayhock's done an unbelievable job between Richie Incognito, TrentBrown in the offensive line, between Josh Jacobs at running back, Hunter Renfro, the wide receiver,
42:34the tight end from LSU, Darren Waller, the other tight end from Baltimore. They can play powerfootball. They can be clever. They're incredibly efficient. Ninth in offensive rushing,you know, yards per game. So top 10, they'll pound it, eat the clock. Raiders 9.Number 8. Cowboys at 8.I drop them.Listen, we got a problem here defensively.Jeff Driscoll gave you problems.They're 21st in takeaways.
43:00They haven't had a takeaway in two weeks.Jeff Driscoll, Kirk Cousins in prime time,takeaways tell me you're making the other quarterback uncomfortable.When you start seeing big turnovers,that's like, like last night, you know,you see a lot of turnovers.It's like, oh, there's something going onwith a quarterback.
43:19He is rushed.Dallas doesn't do that anymore.Last couple of weeks, they're giving up 28 a game to what I consider, you know, Kirk Cousins and Jeff Driscoll.Kirk Couss is obviously better.It's not about DAC.Dak's one of the things I love about this team.Left tackle, Amari Cooper, Dak, love that.Love that.
43:35I like their weapons a lot.Randall Cobb, Michael Gallup.They actually have one of the top four or five receiving cores in the NFL.But this defense is a problem, especially when you're in a division with Garoppolo and Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson and a lot of clever offenses.Number seven.Slightly ahead of them, the Minnesota Vikings, they've won six of their last seven.But, you know, they're so weird.They fall behind 20 to nothing at home to Denver.
44:00They only rush for 37 yards.And by the way, if you go to Kirk Cousins against teams 500 or above since 2018,four and eight.So, you know, this is one of these.I don't trust them still.Love their talent.Love their roster.Certainly make the argument.
44:18They're like a cold weather chargers.Like, I, the roster.You can't deny the roster.They got two of everything.They got good players everywhere.But I think, you know, this week's a classic example.Escaping Denver at home after falling behind 20-0.Number six.
44:35Green Bay.Like them a lot.Getting better offensively.Aaron has a running game.But I don't think their defense, again, intimidates anybody.They don't give the ball away.So you're getting all the upside of Aaron.I get explosiveness.
44:50I like the receivers.and Aaron never gives you free picks.You know, Aaron's got a passer rating of 102 this year, 65% completion percentage.But again, I do believe teams will be able to impose their will.I think a Seattle could run on them.We already saw Philadelphia do that.So I like Green Bay.Don't love them.
45:13I like them.Number five.San Francisco hosts Green Bay this weekend and is favored.Now, their defense is allowed 20.25 plus points in three straight games.Some of that is Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray are really good.Let's not overreact to their defense.I still think it's great.
45:29But you know, you get these off-script quarterbacks who can run around a little bit likeKyler and Russell and you can see they're a little bit vulnerable.They need George Kittleback.He's gronk.He is gronk to the Patriots.But New England's offense is not the same without gronk.Kittles been hurt.He's a man-child blocking.
45:47He's dynamic offensively.He can go vertical.so they're just not the same team, but they're still very, very good.They're rushing game.They're not running the football as well as they were early in the year, so I put them at five.Number four.I put Seattle one spot ahead of them because I just trust Russell Wilson to make a play down the stretch,maybe more than anybody not named Tom Brady.
46:09This year, Russell Wilson is completing 69% of his throws.He's added Josh Gordon.He's first in the NFL two-minute drill.The only losses this year by Seattle, by the way,is the Ravens and the Saints.So, you know, they're in good company.And by the way,Jedavian Clowney and Josh Gordon,
46:27in those losses are not a factor.Now those guys are real players.So I think Seattle added two high-end playersto already a good teamto make them very good, I would put them.And by the way, they've also won a couple of overtime games.So we know, situationally,Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson,
46:44games get tight in the playoffs.They're good.Number three.New England.You know, again, we can keep barking on them, and I would be the first to admit they have no deep threat.But my question is, if they had a deep threat in January in New England, what would it matter in Foxborough?It's 9 degrees and raining sideways.They didn't have a great deep threat last year.
47:07I think they're missing an offensive piece.Can Nikiel Harry be that piece?They're getting Isaiah win back at left tackle.They win this weekend.They're favored by a touchdown.They're going to be 10 in 1.guaranteeing they win the division, get a buy, and host a playoff game, win it, they're in theAFC championship.
47:24They still have the best coach in football, the best secondary, and a defense, a experience,a coordinator still like them.Number two.Saints, they've turned the ball over once in six games.Outside of that crappy performance a couple weeks ago against Atlanta, they've kind offigured out the pass run thing.They're a power running team with a Hall of Fame quarterback, Michael Thomas,Alvin Kamara, very good offensive line.
47:47a nice pass rush. They've done a good job to draft thatdefensive front last few years.You just got to take that Atlanta game out.It doesn't exist. Somebody lost the tape, bury it in the backyard.It's a very good football team. They have not hada turnover in the last six games.Their third in rush defense, third down,six in total offense. Not a lot not
48:07to like outside of one lousy gameagainst the Falcons. Number one.Baltimore, they're hot, healthy, and humming.They're unique.They're hard to practice for.You'd probably need to see him like New England a second time off a buy.They've won six straight.They remind me of the Carolina Cam team that got to the Super Bowl.
48:28There's a certain Mike Tyson quality where they're just coming out.They feel great about themselves.They're a matchup problem.They know they're a matchup problem.Lamar's seven straight games are rushing over 60 yards and 70% completion percentage.So he's feeling great about himself.They're mostly healthy.They've upgraded at Corner.
48:47You know, and they clobbered Seattle.They clobbered New England.They clobbered the Texans.I don't even think there's a debate at this.I mean, you got an agenda if you don't think they're the number one team in the NFL.It was like early in the season for six weeks.Niners look like the best team.Now it's Baltimore.
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