The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/21/2018

Episode Date: November 21, 2018

Colin says that Thanksgiving should start early in Cleveland and all of the Cavs fans should thank LeBron during his return for giving them what he did over the years. He doesn't think the Cowboys have a sustainable system for success in the NFL. Plus, FOX College Football Analyst Joel Klatt comes in studio to talk Ohio State vs Michigan and argue with Colin about his criteria for the College Football Playoff. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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by searching Hurd. This is the best of the third. The Hurt with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go. This on a Wednesday, pre- Thanksgiving is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening live in Los Angeles. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio at FS-1. Joy Taylor is here.

Are we ready to go? Both of us last night. I came in this morning and Joy's like, man, I didn't sleep last night. Zero sleep. And I didn't sleep last night. But you know what? We're just going to go. We got three hours.

Who needs sleep, but it's about to be the holidays. By the way, Jenny Taft and I have like the same dress on in different colors. You look great, Jenny. Happy Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving week. You need sleep. And one hour from now, I've never done this before, Blazing Five, a pre-Thanksgiving, blazing five in one hour.

I want to start with this. LeBron and the Lakers play in Cleveland tonight. Maybe you've heard LeBron's from Akron, played in Cleveland, gave them a lot of stuff they never had, like relevance. Tonight, who knows how Ohio and. specifically Cleveland will act. It should be a parade for LeBron. The game should start.

There should be a 10-minute standing ovation and then forfeit the game, Cleveland, give it to the Lakers, and then everybody can just go home. That's what should happen. The point of this game is really inconsequential. It's irrelevant. This is a lifetime achievement award.

LeBron came to Cleveland in 2003. from that day until his last game as a cav, they won 64% of his games. When he left or missed a game, they won less than 30% of their games. Let's be honest, Thanksgiving's tomorrow. Why don't you thank him tonight? Thanks, LeBron, for the title.

Thanks for the relevance. Thanks for the school. Thanks for the economy. Thanks for the five trips to the finals. For the record, he did not dump you. He dumped Dan Gilbert. Oh, you remember the letter. It's embarrassing.

I haven't brought it up in a year, so why not? It is Thanksgiving, after all. Like to thank Dan for that letter. The worst ever written by an owner, a billionaire, an adult, a team owner, wrote it. And a good therapist will often tell you, hey, sometimes you should write stuff and sleep on it. No, he posted it. He posted it. It was embarrassing.

Calling out LeBron for having the audacity after seven years, Tino go to Pat Riley, D. Wade, Chris Bosch, and Aqua Water. How crazy of LeBron after seven years carrying a franchise and they couldn't get him another All-Star. My gut feeling tonight, the crowd will be 85, 15, 80, 20 in favor of LeBron. And that is good enough. That illustrates achievement. Let's be honest, 20% of the people, you don't even want to get caught in a car with in America. certainly not an arena, certainly not a car or a room. 20% of the people don't get what they don't get.

Ohio, though, mostly gets it. In the last 15 presidential elections, Ohio, 15 for 15, they voted for the guy who won. It's a state that mostly has the right vibe about the moment. Let's be honest, too, about the first breakup with LeBron James. You know, the one you burned his jersey. I understood it to some degree. That was like, whoa! My high school sweetheart broke up with me.

She's my girl. She's mine, right? I got that a little bit. But the second breakup, let's be honest about that. The most recent breakup. Cleveland, there were three parts to that when he came back to Cleveland. A, glad to have you back. B, sorry about the burning the jersey stuff.

And C, thank you. you for giving us what you promised. Don't boo say thank you. Thanks, LeBron, for relevance, mattering, the economy, the school. They don't win much in Cleveland, and they certainly don't win titles. And let's be honest, outside of that presidential stat, they're not all that relevant. tonight they have a chance to redeem themselves a little two words thank you before Thanksgiving let me shift to this speaking of that day tomorrow happy Thanksgiving to all of you drive safe

and be safe cowboys will play Washington um yesterday Jerry Jones owns the Dallas Cowboys he was asked about the Monday night football game, Rams Chiefs, that crazy, crazy football game, and all the offense and a thousand yards and a million touchdowns, and Jerry was asked if the Dallas Cowboys could ever look like that in the near future. I don't know if you were able to see the Rams Chiefs game last night, but it was an offensive showing. When you look at your team in the way they're playing now,

do you see yourself able to compete on the level of these two teams from last night? I like that. I see us really controlling the ball when we're playing at our best. If we got in shootouts, and if you recall back in Romo's days, we were in shootouts, and we could shoot out with the best of them. Having said all of that, I think that we can compete. It can be the same type of game, I believe, because if you just assume that you've got to score 54 points to win a ball game, then nothing we've seen says we can play at that kind of level.

It's interesting. I want to talk about sustainability. Now, the Cowboys years ago, remember that photo with Romo and Witten and Des and all those guys? They thought that was going to be sustainable for years. And it was not. Romo got hurt. Des got crazy. I'm going to show you some pictures of offenses and teams we thought were sustainable for years and years. The Seattle Seahawks.

People thought that was sustainable. It was not. Pete was in his mid-60s. He'd come out of college and nailed his first three drafts. he wasn't going to sustain finding superstars in the fifth, sixth round, third, fourth, fifth, six round. They paid too much money on the defensive side, too much noise, and it blew up. Six years ago, we thought that was a decade dynasty.

The San Francisco 49ers, Kaepernick, Harbaugh, we thought that too. Five, six years ago, it was going to last a long time. But Kackernick was always more runner than thrower. Harbaugh didn't get along with the GM, Trent Balke, who has a huge ego or the owner, Jed York. And in the end, Jim left. It was not sustainable. Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers. If I had told you after that first Super Bowl, yeah, they'd go in her seven, eight years, wouldn't get back there.

Frankly, don't get very close. You just said, what? But let's be honest. Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers, never been an ideal fit. McCarthy more of a far-of-guy. Let's be honest. It's not a free agent market. Let's be honest.

historically they're cheap. So as Jerry talks about the Cowboys, I want to talk about sustainability in the NFL. We watched Monday Night Football. Here's what I believe is sustainable in the NFL. Both the Rams and the Chiefs. Let's start with the Rams. Great owner, great coach,

great young quarterback, early adapters, LA Market, building a stadium, free agency hotbed, they will have to pay golf soon, but the way it's set up, they'll be able to let go of your endomic and sues, your Akib Tilibs, when that happens. This is sustainable for a decade. Leadership owner, less need, GM, coach quarterback. The Kansas City Chiefs, let's talk about them. I believe that is sustainable. Excellent, stable ownership from the Hunt family.

Andy Reed, one of the great play designers of my life. Patrick Mahomes, a world-class far-of-like talent. Middle of the country, not a lot of noise, not a lot of glare. They can kind of keep to themselves. Andy Reid, head down, design plays, make plays. Rams Chiefs, sustainable. Let me give you two teams in the NFL that a lot of people like, I don't think are sustainable. I think they'll be more like the Niners.

more like the Romo Cowboys, more like the Seahawks. Two teams in the NFL like that. Number one, the Chicago Bears. I do not think they're going to be this shiny and fun in five years. Number one, I think Trubisky is a limited quarterback. Number two, this is a historically dysfunctional ownership front office group. Number three, it's a lot of smoke and mirrors. It's a lot of tricks. It's a lot of copperfield.

It's a lot of optical illusion. The league has historically caught up to that. And the other team is the Dallas Cowboys. I don't think they'll be terrible, but I think they have a limited quarterback. They have an impulsive, overly loyal owner. They have an offensive line. Anybody notice it's getting a little worse every year, a little more banged up every year, a little older every year?

And by the way, despite the fact, they're paying DAC less than a Seattle disc jockey. they don't have any cap space, and that's generally not the way it works. The Jets aren't paying their quarterback, a ton of cap space. It's the way it works, bad teams, ton of cap space. Cowboys are average, impulsive, overly loyal owner, limited quarterback, older O'Line, not paying DAC or Zique, and they still don't have cap space. We think in this league, even going back to that Jerry Jones picture, stuff is sustainable always, and it is not.

Not. We thought that cowboy team was. It wasn't. Romo fell apart physically. Des sort of fell apart emotionally and physically. Jason Witten retired. And none of those guys are around anymore. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Let me ask you something. If you're hiring a person today, and I've had to hire a couple people in my life. Resumies will get those people in the door. You get 30 resumes. Okay, these four people, man, women, they'll get you in the door.

But you don't hire off a resume. You never have. You hire off the person you can look in the eye and go, they're going to get it done. Not the most impressive. They're going to get it done. In fact, the half dozen times I've had to hire, the most impressive resume has never gotten a job.

I hear a lot about that resume thing. College football playoff poll came out last night. I don't want to talk about Bama Clemson or Notre Dame. They're good, best three I've seen, and they're not losing. Let's talk about the other teams that all have very similar resumes that are all trying to get the next spot. Michigan, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, Washington State, UCF. Last night, once again, people I know at ESPN were arguing about. resume, resume, resume.

Let's pick resume. And one smart man said this is not about resume. All the resumes here are splitting hairs. Jesse Palmer. Here's my problem with LSU. We're discussing one of these teams making the four seed to play BAM in the 75.

I've seen LSU BAMMA. Does it matter? 29-0. Yes, it does. And as a committee, as a committee, I don't want to see that again. So I don't want to see it again. But the committee has to go resubmit. and who's better.

UCF. They can also go subjective. UCF is the team that should go. Put UCF in. Joey Galloway is wrong. Joy Galloway owned a company. He would not hire a man or a woman to run it based on resume. When Boston General has a surgeon opening,

they all have resumes that are shiny and glossy and amazing. But that chief of staff looks a surgeon, one of a man or woman in the eye, and says, that's who I'm going to put in charge of my heart clinic. It's not the resume. It's the interview. By the way, all these teams are splitting hair. Oklahoma is the one you should hire for the job. Okay? Oklahoma has three things that we know give Alabama trouble. Mobile quarterback, elite offensive coach, and playmakers. By the way, last time Oklahoma Bama played, oh, I forgot. Oklahoma won. Colin, what about their defense?

Wasn't any good then either. The Oklahoma defense, they were in the Big 12. People were scoring a ton on them. Baylor scored in the 40s. A crappy Texas team scored in the high 30s. Schools in the middle of nowhere. Tech scored 30, 35. That great defense, Oklahoma, oh, it wasn't great either.

But they had the offensive mind, they had the quarterback that could move, and they had the playmaker. everything they have now. By the way, Oklahoma leads the nation in points. Nobody's shutting them out. Nobody's beating Bama, in my opinion. But Michigan quarterback, Shea Patterson, faced Alabama last year. Do a little homework.

He lost 66 to 3. Michigan's offensive line of all those potential four spots is the weakest. Shea Patterson blown out by him. Stop talking about resumes. Everybody that applies to be an astronaut at NASA, they're all qualified. You're splitting hairs. Who are you putting in the vessel? Everybody that applies to John Hopkins, UCLA Medical Center, Boston General, the Cleveland Clinic, they're all qualified.

Stop talking about resumes. They all have great resumes. What man or woman do you look in the eye and say, they'll get it done? I've seen all these teams play Alabama before. One got the job done. Oklahoma. Star Mobile quarterback. Fifty points a game.

Playmakers. A coach NFL teams want. When you have a bunch of people, nobody ever, ever ask yourself if you've ever hired. Do you give the best job to the resume? No, you give the best job to the interview. The person who you think over a cocktail at the end of the night. She could really get it done. She could really run my company.

He's pretty smart. Maybe not the smartest, but I got a feeling in the room, in crisis, he'd be a step-up dude. She'd be a step-up woman. Jesse Palmer's right. I've seen a lot of these games with Alabama. I've also seen Bama and again, Oklahoma, run-around quarterback, mobile quarterback,

offensive playmakers, NFL O-L line, guys in the league, that's a game. Not saying they win, that's a game. be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Many of you, after I did that Drew Bree segment, they're saying, Colin, you know, I mean, he's always taking shots at Aaron Rogers.

You still like the guy. I don't know the guy. I don't know the guy. Met him one time. I know he doesn't like me. Okay, that's fine. Kevin Durant this weekend didn't like me? It's okay.

My job is to give an opinion, be honest and forthright, not suck up to pro athletes. Call him like I see him. Let me defend Brett Fav, though, on this because I know how this is going to play. Brett Fav came out in support of Mike McCarthy this week. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. A lot of pressure on Aaron Rogers.

Aaron doesn't like him. Brett says he is an excellent coach that Mike McCarthy. I think Mike is an excellent coach. They have to win, and I think when in a hurry or something may happen there. I mean, Aaron is playing outstanding in really keeping them in games. Their defense is really, at times, looking really good, opportunistic, aggressive. But I don't see that. I see a lot of potential.

I just think that they're underachieving a little bit right now. Okay. Of course, Farrv connects with Mike McCarthy. First of all, their personalities, old school, little stubborn. They're cut from the same cloth. The other thing is McCarthy saved Farr's career. Mike Sherman was a bad NFL coach. Green Bay was 4 and 12.

McCarthy came in and turned it around in two years. eight and eight and then they went 13 and three. So of course, Farve loves him. I'd love a boss too if he resurrected my career. Of course he loves him. The second thing is, never forget this, McCarthy used to be in San Francisco.

And as Greg Jennings told us the former Packer, he didn't love Aaron Rogers coming out of college. The thing about Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy that people miss sometimes, who was the number one overall pick the year

Aaron Rogers came out. Alex Smith. Who was his offensive coordinator? Mike McCarthy. And it would just be so random. And Aaron will take a shot at Mike like, oh yeah, like how you picked Alex Smith. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

So listen, Farr is going to love McCarthy. Same personality, cut from the same cloth, resurrected his career. And there's no question that Aaron Rogers is a different dude than McCarthy. He inherits McCarthy, and McCarthy is like Farve's guy, and McCarthy once passed on him. I'm not a grudge holder, but I don't forget stuff.

I forgive and I don't forget. I'm not a grudge holder. But if Aaron Rogers is like, you're kind of a Farv guy, he's right. McCarthy's kind of a Farv guy. And so if Farv comes out and says, I love Mike McCarthy, I totally get it. Completely absolutely explainable. I do think McCarthy and Rogers, 12 years in, time for divorce.

You always hear horror stories about bad divorces. McCarthy will get another job. Aaron will get a more progressive, offensive mind. It'll all be good. Aaron will have, after this year, another good four years. I hope he lasts physically. Kaleo Mack twice a year. Vikings defense twice a year.

But Aaron's going to have a nice four years after this year. They're not going to make the playoffs this year. In fact, you know, we do this thing called the herd hierarchy every week. We haven't had Green Bay. Have we had Green Bay in the top 10 since week one? The two teams I bought into early. I didn't buy into Green Bay early this year. I haven't had them in Herd hierarchy in three months.

I mean, I just didn't buy them this year. After about week three, I was out on them. And Saints, we bought them before everybody else did. We said they're better than the Rams. They're better than the Steelers. They're better than their Chiefs for two reasons. You can't run on them, and their offensive line now is the best in football. But Aaron's going to have a good four years after McCarthy,

and McCarthy's going to get picked up by somebody. He will. I'm not sure the list will be long for McCarthy, but he'll get picked up by somebody. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Talking about Philadelphia, Malcolm Jenkins was the latest, and he's a, you know, a very, very smart guy. So Doug Peterson said a week ago, guys aren't focused in.

Jason Kelsey, a week ago said guys aren't dialed in. Accountable. Accountable was the name. word. And now Malcolm Jenkins is saying this. Some things are just non-negotiable. We can deal with guys getting beat. You know, mistakes happen. If you don't win at the point of attack, cool. But if you don't know what you're doing, if you're not giving us everything you've got,

especially with our backs around the wall, then that's just something. I think as leaders of the team, we need to nip in the butt because we're, you know, at that moment where we can't carry non-essential personnel. And this is three people, the coach, the star defensive player, elite Jason Kelsey, all saying the same thing. We're not accountable. Translation, it's not the injuries. It's guys got fat and rich and won and had dog masks and they didn't know how to handle success. Jason, these guys aren't talking about injuries.

Everybody's making excuses. What about the injuries? The guys in that locker room, Jason Kelsey last week, listen, they're not talking about injuries. The thing that you see, in my opinion, from this team to last year, at least offensively, is the cohesion, the people being accountable to the job that they're asked to do, everybody being on the same page. You know, last year, it just seemed like everything was clicking. Everybody, you know, we had guys like, you know, Brent Selig who had been here a long time,

who was very accountable. Tori Smith, who had been in the league for a long time, very accountable. That's what we're missing. I mean, we're missing that account. When you have a coach and two stars, nobody's talking about injuries. Nobody's talking about coaches gone. It's like not accountable. It's embarrassing.

Certain guys shouldn't be on the roster. This was incredibly, you know, there's been a handful of things I've been really right on. You know, Carmelo is way overrated. Westbrook is hard to play with. You know, LeBronzo, this stacks up. And I didn't think it would be this bad. and I do like the Eagles this weekend, but this is what I call the lottery winner syndrome.

If you've never had money, you don't know what to do with it. And if you've never had Super Bowl wins, you don't know how to act. Now, the good news is the GM, Howie Roseman, really smart. Doug Peterson, the coach, really smart. Carson Wentz, really good. And the owner, Lori, is fantastic. So I've been told this for years and years.

If you're an A to a B plus at owner GM coach and quarterback, you're going to be a viable team every year. They'll be back. They're not disappearing. Philadelphia is going to be back. They'll win this weekend. They'll, they can still win this division. I don't know, they will.

But here's the thing. The good news for Philadelphia, you got the four things that matter most. You're four for four. Owner, GM, coach quarterback, A to B plus, all of them. Wentz is an A. When he's healthy, he's an A. So that's good. What's up? This is John Middlecock from the three-and-out podcast.

If you like Collins show, you will like mine. I talk all football. Coming up on this show, you know I'm reacting to that Monday night football game. Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes, Sean McVeigh, Andy Reed. The NFL has changed and we are all better for it. I will tell you why. Again, three and out podcast with me, John Middlecough, wherever you listen to your podcast. He is the lead college football analyst.

for this network, Joel Klatz. What's up, man? Michigan at Ohio State. Coverage begins 11 Eastern on Fox with Gus and Joel. So let's start with this. America bailed on Harbaugh last year. We didn't. Two guys right here.

Two, Joy. Two, Joy. Joy to the world. Cheers. Yeah, cheers. Hey, come on over here. Yeah, you bet. There you. A couple of winners right here.

Didn't bail on Harbaugh, like all those. weeny sports riders sitting at their typewriters. So let me just say this. This is huge for Harbaugh. Yes, massive. I think that you can make a strong argument that this might be, Colin, the most important game that he's coached since the Super Bowl. I agree. Because he wasn't favored at Seattle in the NFC championship game the next year. That was a really good Seattle team. That was going to go on and win the Super Bowl and beat Denver. Remember, they beat down Denver. And I think that you can give him somewhat of a pass even for two years ago because it's not really like he had his team yet at Michigan. So in his second year, they lose an overtime game on the road.

I mean, you can kind of give him. There was a really bad spot in that, a bad holding call. But this one feels different. Why? He's favored. He's got the team. It's experienced on defense. They're good on the offensive line.

All five offensive linemen have started every single game this year. They've run the ball. more importantly, he has a quarterback. And so with Ohio State struggling and going through what they've gone through this season. That's a component to it too. He's got to win this game. Yeah, it's big. This one is huge because if you don't, if you're Michigan and you don't win this game,

when do you win? That's the exact point. When do you win? When are we going to win? Because you got a borderline NFL guy, the best defense in the country, and right now, Ohio State, you know, I'm not close enough to know, but I have two sources I trust that tell me in Urban Splitsville. Like after the season, he's gone.

Let's address that because I'm sure you've heard the same thing. I have. I've heard the rumblings. All I can go on is what he's told me personally and publicly, which is he's going to be the coach of Ohio State. And I will start with that. If anything, Ohio State's not making any sort of moves. They want to retain him.

Of course they would. I mean, why would they have gone through what they went through this off season unless they wanted him to be there long term? You know, so I've heard some sentiment and people throwing that out there like, boy, would Ohio State? No, Ohio State's not going to do anything. Now, Urban's health might be an issue, the cyst in his head that gives him these pounding headaches. He looked exasperated last week. Obviously, anyone would when defense has given up over 50 points the week before arrival.

He doesn't seem right. He doesn't seem normal to me as my history with him has shown. having said that though, I just don't see this. I don't see him riding away this way. I mean, he's one of the best coaches that we've seen in this generation of college. You really think that this is the way he wants to write out? I don't. I don't.

So if you're asking me, having talked to him, having been around the program, I do not think that this is the last year for Urban. Let me throw this one out to you. It should be the last year for Brian Kelly. Just hear me out. Is that... All right, here we go. No. Am I going to like this?

I'm going to make this right now. It's going to be a lot of sense. And talk some sense. Notre Dame's a different job. First time in a while. But go ahead. It's a different job. Academic, private, hard to win. This is not, Brian Kelly told me this and you know this.

This is not a 25-year job. It's just not. Nick Saban asks, Nick Saban gets on everything at Alabama. Same with Dambo. Same with the Oklahoma coach. It's a fight here. It's a fight to win. You got the regents.

You got the, you know, Notre Dame. this is as good as Notre Dame's going to get. This is it. They're not as good as Clemson. They're not as good. Two years ago, I was told by somebody who would know, Brian put the feelers out, see if the NFL is interested. Yeah, I've known that same thing. Okay. So this is...

It's an interesting theory. He gets into the playoff. Interesting theory. Okay, gets into the playoff. Loses by 8 to Clemson. That's as good as I can do. I'm not beating Alabama anytime soon. I don't have the same players.

I can't do JCs. I don't do transfers. I'm a private school. It's not terrible timing. It's not your worst take. No, listen, meaning like, you might be on to something. You might be on to something. Because I know after a couple of years in the last five,

there were feelers out there. He was thinking about making that move. Having said that, and let me just play devil's advocate. I'm not suggesting that this place is better than Notre Dame or anything along those lines. But why is Notre Dame not a 25-year place? And it could be for David Shaw at Stanford. Okay.

It's a private school. It's an academic. So is Stanford. Expectations are unrealistic. Come on. Where Stanford's maybe aren't. No, no. It's Stanford.

If you win 9-10, you get an extension. You're saying Stanford's expectations are not unrealistic. So you're at a place. I don't think it's the worst idea. If you were, let's just say it this way. I would not be shocked, nor would I begrudge that move. I wouldn't say like, what are you doing? No, I think that that would be a decent move.

If he stays, I think. think that's a decent move as well because I think that this is a program in Notre Dame that should be in the upper echelon of college football and is in the upper echelon of college football right now. You ever hired anybody in your life? No. Okay, I have a man of power and leverage. So I've had a, when I hire people, resume get you with this every day. Resumet get you in the door.

But you know when I hire a guy, Claire? Yeah, I'm sorry. Resumet get you in the door. But I hire a man or a woman because I think when Joy was there, I said, said she'll get it done. Maybe somebody comes in that goes, I went to Cornell, broadcast, I know all this. So yeah, I mean, you hired difference makers.

Okay. All these resumes for the fourth spot, Michigan, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU, Wazoo, USA, they're all impressive resumes. Oklahoma, mobile quarterback, world-class offensive guy. Playmaker. It's all about entertainment value for you. Oh, yeah, crazy. It's called television.

Yeah, I love the Rams and Chiefs, baby, 52, 51. Oh, why, you didn't watch that game? I'm saying it was, I mean, it was great. So it's splitting hairs. Michigan, Oklahoma are both good. I mean, again, you want your dumb, dumb before dinner, which is fine. I brought you a couple. I knew you would probably go.

I brought you a couple dumb-dums. Yeah, here's your take. Where to go. So you think, you think, Colin, here's your dumb-dums for this take. You'd think Michigan is way more qualified than Oklahoma. Hey, way to go. Let's go with the most exciting one. Which one is it?

It's the one that has the question marks. What flavor it is, Colin? I don't know. Let's check. Exciting. Yeah, because I've seen that matchup with Alabama. It works. Maybe, maybe. I mean, why wouldn't you just want the teams to earn their way in, right? I mean, I'm saying, I just don't think it's the way that you choose a team.

Right? Like, I think that Michigan's lost to Notre Dame is better than Oklahoma's lost to Texas. So I don't think that the resumes are similar. I'm not saying that, oh, you would not be a good choice. I would love to see Oklahoma play against Clemson's defense or Alabama's defense. I would have loved to have seen it last year. But that doesn't mean I don't want to see

Chase Winnevich and Roshan, Gary and Devin Bush play against Tuotunga Vialoa. Because I'd love to see that as well. Now, it might be a little bit lower scoring for you. So I might, you know, you don't get your dumb dumb there before dinner. But why, I mean, this whole notion that we should choose a team based on excitement level is wrong. It's false.

But this is, you know, in the NCAA tournament, I always have this theory. If I'm paying for the wedding, I get to make up the seating chart. So CBS is like, I'm paying for the entire March madness. I want to see, you know, Louisville play Kentucky in the third round. I want to see, I want Syracuse, not Tulsa. So you're going to tell me I'm sitting there with this whole thing. So you want ESPN to be able to say like, well, these are the matchups we want based on ratings.

No, no, no. I'm saying Bamma Clems and Notre Dame in. Now it's just a bunch of one-lost teams. Okay. well, one of those one lost teams is Ohio State, and they get more ratings than anybody. They were the most watch team the last two weekends of college football. They're going to get whacked by Michigan. I thought you just told me that we were supposed to choose based on ratings.

I'm paying for the wedding, Colin. I want ratings. No, I'm not saying, I'm saying once it's just a bunch of argument over the same resume. But what's to say that Oklahoma is so far. It's about what's going to be a good entertainment game. Entertainment level. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. an actual football game and not a blowout.

Yesterday, last week. Well, I wants to say Bama, Oklahoma wouldn't be a blowout. I'm saying it probably would be 54 to 40, but I know what Michigan Alabama's going to be. It's going to be LSU Alabama. I see, I don't believe that. What do you think? I don't believe the case.

How many Michigan's going to score, how many points on Alabama? I've seen that offense. Struggled against Northwestern. After seeing what Alabama did against LSU offensively, after knowing what, I mean, Michigan put up over 500 yards last week, I think they played quality complementary football. If I were to tell you, like, Michigan, Alabama would be 2417. Oh, God, no.

Why? That's a one-score game. So you want 54-40? You think Bama Michigan's a touchdown game. Yeah, I do. I do. I don't think Bama is quite the dominant team, in particular in the last month that we've seen. They were tied at halftime with the Citadel.

By the way, do you know the last time an FCS team was tied with a top 10 team at half. Do you know? Do you know? I do. Weird. 2007, it was App State at Michigan. Okay, time out. Does your TV not work? You don't think Alabama... I watch all the film. You don't think Alabama's been dominant this year. No, they have been dominant. They have not been as dominant the last month.

Well, come on. They're may... Citadel. Exactly. Ten, ten, ten game. They also did not gain 400 yards, nor did they score over 25 points against LSU. Name the last time Oklahoma didn't gain 400 yards and score 25 points. It's really hard to find that game. All I'm saying is that there's some cracks in the foundation with Alabama.

They're going to be my favorite to win the national championship. But this notion that you should pick a team just based on entertainment value or competitive nature, first of all, you cannot tell me that Oklahoma and Michigan would be drastically different from a competitive standpoint with Bama or Clemson. I'm running out of time with you. I bet you are. You know, all the time in the world. You just want to get your dumdums. Give me my dumb dumb done. They're right here. Give me a lollipop before dinner. Prop comic, Joel Klatt. Oh, here it is, the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Jason McIntyre, we bring him on Fridays usually, but it's our last time this week we are on until next Monday. Where are you going for the holiday? I'm hanging out at home. Oh, nice. I'll come by. All right, sure. I love inviting myself. 35 people at our house tomorrow.

going to be a zoo at the cowherd grotto tomorrow. Okay, we call this Monday's headlines today. Redskins at the Cowboys on Fox tomorrow. First place on the line, J. Mack. Yeah, everybody's been wrong about Dak. I was wrong. I sat here last week.

I was bashing Dak, but listen, he's really controlled the football. And we'll get to it in a second. But I believe when they defeat the Redskins tomorrow, the headline will be, you don't know Dak. Now, let me say this. That is brutal. The last two weeks, no turnovers for Dak Prescott. The last time he faced the Redskins, two fumbles, had a fumble and a pick against the Titans. It's basically, remember in elementary school your teacher would say, Colin, kiss it, keep it simple, stupid.

You remember that? Yeah. That's all Dak has to do. Don't make really bad mistakes. Hand the ball off to Zeke. When Ezekiel Elliott has 140 or more yards, they're 14 and 0. Yeah. It's pretty basic at this point, is it not? Yeah, and their defensive front sevens real. And this is good for the playoffs. All of a sudden, Dallas Cowboys. Like, who are you watching? The Redskins in the playoffs with Colt McCoy or the Dallas Cowboys? Okay. Monday's

headlines today. Saints host of Falcons tomorrow. New Orleans is 1-9 straight. You know, I was driving back from Palm Springs today and I heard a little bit of your show and I've been hearing this week, listen, this whole who's going to win the MVP is quite stupid at this point, right?

I believe the headline will be after Drew Breeze destroys the Falcons tomorrow. Dumbest MVP debate ever. I mean, it's stupid, right? At this point. Six games left in the season, and it's a formality. It's got to be Drew Breeze.

Colin, he has one interception this season. One turnover. I don't want to hear Pat Mahomes. He had five turnovers in one game. Like, Pat Mahomes has been great. Take nothing away. It's Drew Breeze. How is this even a discussion?

It's got to be. Like, what is the argument against Drew Breese at this? point. Nobody can make a logical one. And Brady and Rogers are both. Brady's been, listen, we talked about Brady off air. One TD in the last three weeks. He's not been nearly as good as Drew Breezes.

Sunday Eagles host the Giants. Last Place on the Line. Monday's headlines today. Did you just say last place on the line? That's it is. Is there a bigger dumpster fire than the Philadelphia Eagles at this point? I just looked at their practice report today. Their four starting cornerbacks from the beginning of the season are not practicing today. They got to face Odell Beckham.

The headline Monday will be. You're going to love this cry, Eagles cry. I like that. You know they say fly Eagles. Exactly, yes. Hey, listen, I know you love the Colts and you're bullish on the Colts. Their head coach, Frank Reich, is sorely missed in Philadelphia. There's no question about that. I mean, and people want to deny that. Like, they're not very good right now. And I keep saying, Carson Wentz, what is he? He was close to the MVP last year. What is he? What is he? is he right now? Does he look like a star to you? Well, yes, he does. I think his talent is star impressive. I will say this. They do not. Golden Tate hasn't worked. Listen, coaching matters. Frank Reich is crushing it with Andrew Luck. I think it's one of these classic, you know,

don't just judge a guy, Frank Reich, by what happens where he lands? What happened to where he left? Yes. Philadelphia is not as tight offensively. And they missed Di Filippo, my guy from, we went to college together. He's now with the Vikings. Oh, really? Yeah. It's a weird spot in Phil. Maybe Doug Peterson will write another book about how much of a genius he is in the off season. I mean, maybe he'll do that. It seems like a fun thing to do.

All right, college football Saturday, number four, Michigan at 10, Ohio State on Fox Monday's headlines today. How about your Urban Meyer a little scoop there, huh? It did some good traffic on the big lead this week. Thank you very much. Good stuff. I believe Michigan goes into the horseshoe and wins. And I think convincingly,

and I believe the headline will be, Jim Harbaugh's first win versus the Buckeyes since 1980s. He was a quarterback on that team. He was indeed. You know, I've talked to some people in the search firm business, and they've dealt with Harbaugh before. They said the number one thing when he went back to Michigan wasn't to win a title. It was to win a Big Ten title. I think he takes down Ohio State this week.

They capture the Big Ten. We know they'll dispatch Northwestern in the Big Ten title game. And then the question is, can they play with Alabama, Colin? And I'm being serious here, not the semifinal, but in the national championship. If somehow they're the three seed and they get to play Alabama in the title game. If they, as you proclaim, if they clobber Ohio State. I mean, let's say it's like 34 to 14. There are going to be people that, listen, you know how it works, the last thing you saw.

And if Clemson look crappy, there is a chance they could leap people. Because again, their loss is, you know, two and a half months ago. And does USC look good against Notre Dame? No, Notre Dame smokes them. Because that would help Michigan. I just want to say the numbers, guys, they think Michigan is a better team than Notre Dame despite the loss early in the season. So if you look at like, you know, I do all this gambling stuff on the podcast,

I'm telling you, Michigan's a better team right now than Notre Dame. They should probably be three. And I think they would have a chance in the championship, not in the semifinal, because Nick Saban will pick them apart. And finally, Warriors face the Thunder tonight. Warriors could lose four straight for the first time since 2013. Monday's headlines today. If you're looking for a bet tonight, the OKC Thunder are the team.

But listen, you know I'm a big Kevin Durant fan. Whatever. I think this is getting ugly for the Warriors. I mean, you saw the video of him screaming at a fan. I know, dropping, yeah, I did. I need that, KD. I think the cloud is hovering. I think the headline come Monday.

Draymond no longest, no longer craziest Golden State Warrior. It's getting ugly internally. Some of the stuff that's trickle have. He fired back at me. Now, K.D. and you, you guys talk. We're friendly. I hope he's not watching this, yeah, segment. Now, he's gone radio silent in the last week with all this Drayman stuff.

But yeah, you saw this video. Weird. Dude, you're the best player on the planet. Who cares what this dope in Dallas is saying? Like, serious. And I do wonder if he leaves the warrior. years. Is he getting a taste of what life's going to be like on the New York Knicks? Because they're this bad. They're losing. I mean, the Knicks, even when they get Porzingis, they're not going to be good.

It's going to get worse if he goes to New York, which is why I keep coming back to the Lakers. That's the one team that makes sense. Are you feeling that? A little bit. Here's what I'm feeling. So this story broke today. Aaron Rogers, I just, so Aaron Rogers came out, Packer quarterback. People think I'm anti-Rogers. I'm like, no. he's difficult. I've known five, four guys who have played with him. They're all like, he's difficult. He's not the greatest guy all the time. So he came out with his northern California support firefighters and support families. And I saw it this morning. His brother came out. Jordan Rogers, his brother on the internet said, please donate, spread awareness, and send love. But when your own mom's home during the fires, car park ready to evacuate, you missed a fundamental first step of compassion, calling your

parents to make sure they're safe. Everything else just feels like an act. His brother crushes him. By the way, his brother's crushed him. His dad's crushed him. Multiple teammates have crushed him. Many teammates have crushed him. People think Aaron Rogers is not the greatest guy.

That's why I say Breeze, his likability. If he wins a number of Super Bowl, history is going to be kind to Drew Breese. Let's be fair. I mean, Michael Jordan slugged teammates, okay? It can get lonely at the top, Colin. You know that. And maybe Aaron Rogers is in a spot right now. Come on.

Your brother's calling you out. I'm trying to defend him. It's a tough spot. So I hosted this panel a couple years ago with a former Green Bay Packers tight end. And I was off air. I'm like, hey, what about Rogers? He's like, dude, that guy was a jerk. This guy was a rookie walked in the building.

Michael Finley. Thanks for that. Yeah. I don't think he'll care. But he told me Aaron Rogers walked by him. This guy was a rookie. And Aaron Rogers, like, wouldn't even make icon. contact, acknowledge him.

Just a total jerk, and he's eventually, Finley went to the coaches and was like, hey, what's going up? Does he hate me? What did I do? So the coaches had to broker it. And Finley and Rogers had to make one hour each week to meet up and talk to generate a friendship. Like, that's not a welcoming atmosphere to a rookie. You know, you want to make everybody feel at home.

Like you walk the halls here at FS1. You're saying hi to everybody. Yes. You know, and like, joy is very popular. And the bill says hi to everybody. You got to be friendly. That's like the basic rule. life. And when you see this report, man. It's bad. I mean, it's... It's tricky because it's family

stuff. It's never really have the whole story. No, I'm not saying it, it, first of all, I think it's really unfortunate. I would never do this with my sister. My sister would never do this with me. I just don't like it at all. No, we got a fight. It's Thanksgiving time. I'm going to see you. But there is, there is Joy A drip, drip, drip, drip. You know, before the faucet breaks, there's drip, drip, drip, drip. We have Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finley, brothers, dads, players. We have multiple people calling out Aaron Rogers. No, there's something to this. This is just, this is messy. It's just unfortunate with the timing too, like the fires, Thanksgiving, like, I mean, oh. And again, I've said it before. He's a first ballot hall of famer. But at some point,

if Aaron Rogers walked up to me, I'd say, your brother called you out. I don't, I mean, Once your brother calls you out, that's not a me issue. That's a you issue. So what's the move here if you're Aaron Rogers? Do you call your mom first? Do you call your brother? Do you just let it go and not care? I mean, I think you have to do something at this point.

The media is going to ask them about it this weekend. They have to. That's their job. You know his reaction. Here's Aaron Rogers' reaction. That stuff is unfortunate, but you know, I'm in the middle of a football season and I owe my team focus. that's exactly what he's going to say. He's not bad actually.

That's kind of what he's going to say. He tends to pause and go, he'll do one of those lip things. He'll be going to go, it hurts. It's unfortunate, but I'm in the middle of a football season. Which is what he should say, because this is family stuff. It's just going to continue to spiral.

But Joy, I mean, you can say that, but the brother's not laying off. He's continuing the bombing on social media. Well, the brother's also not Aaron Rogers. This is the guy who was on the Bachelor, whatever, Bachelorette, one of those. I don't want it. Works for ESPN?

Wow. Maybe. That's it. Oh, the SEC Network, dude. But this is bad. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

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