The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/21/2019

Episode Date: November 21, 2019

Colin talks about the Thursday Night Football game and why it's a great reminder that all kinds of NFL teams are going to try and make a move for Tua Tagovailoa in the NFL Draft. Colin talks with Gre...g Cosell of NFL Films about Dak Prescott facing the Patriots and what is wrong with the Eagles offense. He looks at which NFL coaches are on the hot seat. Plus, he gives his top 3 College Football picks in his Marquee 3. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go on a Thursday. This live in Los Angeles is the herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We are live on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, one hour from now. I think it's the best 15 minutes in American Sports Radio. Greg CoSell, NFL meat sandwich. You're a gambler. You play fantasy football, or you just love the game.
Starting point is 00:03:09 He'll give you tidbits, little pieces of information. You don't get anywhere else. And Joy Taylor is joining me. The coffee this morning is, frankly, it's delicious. I woke up at 2.45. I never went back to sleep, so I need a little extra caffeine this morning. Joy, how are you? I'm great.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Isn't that the worst? I went to bed so early. What times you go to bed? 8.20. I mean, come on. I watched the Clippers, Lakers. I watched the Clippers Celtics for a half and then fell asleep. I mean, what's happening to me?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I mean, you missed the good part. I know. I miss the best part. So tonight is not just a football game. Tonight is why that quarterback for Alabama, two of that got hurt is not going to drop in the draft. He's not going to drop in the draft. And tonight is why.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Indianapolis does everything right. Their GM, Chris Ballard, is brilliant. Their coach, Frank Reich, is excellent. Their offensive line is the best young O-line in years in the NFL. It's like the Cowboys four years ago. Their defense, they get draft picks, they steal guys, free agent, they're smart. They do everything well. The cap, they develop players.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And tonight, I'll take Houston because Houston has a great quarterback. Their offensive lines are work in progress. They don't actually have a GM. Their head coach, Bill O'Brien, can be good at times, but I'm not sure he understands how clocks work. Situationally, they can be an absolute tire fire, but they have Deshaun Watson. And that is why Tua is not dropping in the draft.
Starting point is 00:04:47 You can do virtually everything wrong, but I got Deshaun Watson. And you got Jacoby Brissette. I'll take Deshaun Watson. I think there's going to be a, I think there's going to be a bidding war for Tua. And tonight's why? Because you're going to watch that game tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And you know in the AFC and these teams are in the AFC, the winner tonight takes control of the AFC. South. And do you know that since 2003, the last 16 years in the AFC, four quarterbacks have gotten to the Super Bowl. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Big Ben, and one year Joe Flacco got ridiculously hot. four quarterbacks but mostly three.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Hall of Famers. And in the next six weeks in the NFL, you're going to see guys like Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson and Drew Breeze and Tom Brady and Deshawn Watson and Lamar Jackson separate because they're special. And special is what wins right before Thanksgiving up until February.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And Indianapolis does everything right. They don't have the right quarterback. I like Jacoby percent. He's fine. They had the right quarterback. and then that quarterback retired. And then they got a guy, they signed for two years, who's very solid. I'm not denying he's a franchise guy, but he's not special.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Doesn't have special mobility, doesn't have a special arm. He's good, fine. A lot of Kirk Cousins there got surrounded with perfect stuff. But when you watch tonight, I want you to watch very carefully on a team that is brilliantly run, shrewdly developed, does virtually everything right against the team that does not have a general manager, O-Lines a work in progress, and we don't know if Bill O'Brien was given a watch as a kid because he can't figure out clock management, and I'll take Houston. And that leads me to my second story.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I read a story this morning. I don't want to call out the network, CBS, but it was a ridiculous story. I don't want to call out the writer. Okay, I won't. That Tua is going to go 32nd in the first round. Oh, that's adorable. No, starting today, I'm going to play a game, and we're going to call it Hua gets Tua.
Starting point is 00:07:01 He ain't going past six, folks. Hua gets Tua. And let me explain how this works. In the National Football League today, I am going to list the quarterbacks who lead their division. Tom Brady, Lamar Jackson, after tonight Deshawn Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, who is having an MVP-level year, Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and Jimmy Garoppolo.
Starting point is 00:07:26 See a trend here? It's not the best O-line, not the best pass rush, not the best running game. No, this is a copycat league. Russell Wilson probably wins the MVP. Lamar Jackson wins it if he doesn't. Kyler-Marie is outrageously good and shockingly effective. I'm going to make a prediction. There's going to be a bidding war for Tua.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Okay, but because of his injuries, he probably doesn't go one to Cincinnati, and he probably doesn't go three or four to Miami. But never forget this. In 2018, five quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. Four of the five teams moved up to get them. In 2017, three quarterbacks were taken in the first round. All the teams moved up to get him. In 2016, there were three quarterbacks taken.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And all three teams moved up to get him. And you're going to tell me Tua, who, Nick Saban gets Misty over, who Trent Dilfer calls the best prospect we've had in years, is going to drop to 32. And I've read three columns today. Drop, drop, drop, drop. I'm going to go the exact opposite of everybody I've read in the American media. There'll be a bidding war.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And whoever's draft, whoever has the number four or five spot. And today, that's the Jets. I don't think they'll end up with a five. They could. I mean, I think they'll win a couple games. Whoever has number five is going to have a ton of power. If the New York jet to end at number five, they could call Carolina, they can call the Chargers, they can call any of these teams that have really good players and draft capital and make strong demands.
Starting point is 00:09:11 We'll take boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you give us your first round pick. But this morning, I went and looked at the NFL draft order, and I counted 11 teams that either urgently need a quarterback or that I think would strongly consider drafting it. Cincinnati, urgent need. Miami at 4, urgent need. Denver at 6, more urgent than they'd acknowledge need. Tampa at 7, they're moving off Jameson. They had drafted a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Chargers at 11. They're moving to a new stadium. They can't sell tickets. Old unathletic quarterbacks do not work anymore. Tennessee at 15. Really think Ryan Tannihill's the future? Carolina at 16. Kyle Allen has been exposed.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He's a nice transitional, in-season quarterback. Minnesota at 23. You bring in Tua for a year behind Kirk Cousins. Make sure he's totally healthy, learns the system, and then he spends the rest of his next six years handing off to Delvin Cook and throwing to Stefan Diggs. Indianapolis at 26. You think they gave Jacoby Brissette a two-year deal
Starting point is 00:10:21 because he's the future? New Orleans at 29. Well, Drew Brees is 40, and Teddy Bridgewater is going to go on the open market and get a lot of lettuce. And New England at 32. Yes. Yes, they're going to draft a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:10:37 first or second pick. That's 11 teams. There may be another one, but I gave it thought, 11. And you think two is just dropping and dropping and dropping because he got a leg injury? Not happening. I'll go the exact opposite way. Once again, starting today, our new game will probably do it once a week.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Hua gets Tua. This morning, the Jets have the fifth pick, which is incredible leverage in this NFL draft in April. There we go. You know how I am with drafts, Joy. I get Zaney. Oh, I was going to say you're a huge draft nerd. Nerd, gigantic nerd, of many nerdy tendencies. That's like another, that's like me taking chess classes, nerd.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I have mock draft parties. Literally conover wear sweaters, have some soup and do mock draft parties. So that's where we stand. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
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Starting point is 00:15:28 of the league. The numbers are outrageous. And I think James Harden is scoring so much. He'll get a lot of votes. But I think the fact that LeBron is changing positions in year 17, I almost feel like the voters will feel like they're obligated to give LeBron James the award. We know James Harden can score. He's not doing anything he hasn't done before.
Starting point is 00:15:47 LeBron is doing something he's never done before and Magic came out and he said, 25 and 11, this is an MVP season. Nobody's playing better than what scary story is still being written. And I think that's an interesting line by Magic. The story on LeBron is being written. Year 17, change positions and be the best in the NBA at that. Let's not get into the MVP award. That is not what this rants about.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I mean, Michael Jordan, how many MVP? piece does he have in the regular season. Nobody cares. With Michael at six for six in the finals, the number that matters six. And the other number that matters is six, six for six. Let's not wasting Michael, Jordan, LeBron argument. But this would definitively enhance what LeBronzo has been is the greatest most versatile Swiss Army knife in league history. You would never, Michael may be the more relentless offensive player and better player.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm not disputing that. but you didn't see Michael was not capable in year 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 of being the best player at forward. It's just, just forget it. And I know the league is easier now and the nutrition is better. But to change positions and dominate it in a league full of all-time great guards really puts Magic Johnson, who I've always considered very close to Michael and LeBron. We freaked out when Magic played center for one game in the 1980 finals. We freaked out.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Kareem got hurt. He had to step in against the Sixers and Caldwell Jones. Oh, my God! LeBron's 17th year. I'll do it for the season and win MVP and be the best at it in a guard-driven league. I think it will clearly put Michael LeBron best ever, no Kareem, no Wilt, no Russell, no Kobe, no magic, no bird, the most relentless player and the most versatile player that we wrote a new chapter into the book in year 17.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You can't say that with any other player ever. You can't say it with Kareem, Magic, Michael, you just can't say it. It's an incredible ability. And it's like comparing Michael and LeBron has always been sort of like comparing Beyonce and Bruce Springsteen. Like, they're both great. It's kind of a different genre thing, like different size for LeBron and different position for LeBron and really different skill set.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And Michael's more of the relentless score. And Michael, but I mean, to do the point guard thing to me is just, it's remarkable. And I think it's an incredibly difficult position to play in basketball. You have to be the brain. You have to be the coach. While you're playing at 100 miles an hour, you have to be the decision maker. It's hard in college. It's hard in high school.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's absurd in the NBA. You have to often guard their best player, James Hardener, Steph Curry. So I don't care about the MVP thing, but what I'm watching right now, it is crazy. It is just insane by LeBron. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. I want to bring this up. I saw this yesterday a couple days ago. Antonio Brown apologized to Robert Kraft.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Bill Belichick yesterday referenced him. Don't ask me about AB. Go ask Mr. Kraft. I do think they may consider if A.B. gets cleared, not saying he's going to, I think they would consider going after A.B. and giving him a second shot in New England because I think New England's offense is, lacks a vertical threat. I think you can all see it. I can see it. You saw it against Philadelphia. They had to go to a trick play with Julian Edelman throwing a touchdown to win it. I also think A.B.'s not somebody I would trust. Sometimes I think he appears very unstable. But this is an organization that has rolled the dice multiple times. times and has, it's worked multiple times. I would say this, though, is that every single dynasty has a hole. Alabama's dynasty, the hole is Nick Saban wears out assistant coaches and they leave quickly and he's constantly having to replace great assistance.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Golden State Dynasty, the Hole. A couple of their stars were really fragile. Steph and KD. get hurt a lot. New England's hole in their dynasty, they do a lousy job at drafting. and developing college receivers. They're not very good at it. They're better at getting West Welker, Randy Moss, Josh Gordon, Chris Hogan. They're better.
Starting point is 00:20:19 That's what they do really well. They're very good at scouting the pro game. I've showed you this before draft picks since 2003. That's a lot of whiffs. And there are a lot of guys drafted in the second and third round, and they are complete and utter whiffs. They just don't do this. It's the hole in the dynasty.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So you go get a Josh Gordon, a Chris Hogan, a West, Welker, Randy, Moss, and A.B. By the way, they just went and got Muhammad Sanoo. And within an hour, he's got like 10 targets. Muhammad Sanoo is the perfect patriot. Smart, coachable, fits in veteran Tom Brady. But I would say this. Tom Brady deserves a little heat on this. Tom is rigid and precise.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And he appears to trust veteran guys much more than new guys. I mean, good luck. Every single receiver works for Russell Wilson five minutes after they arrive in Seattle. everybody works with Russell Wilson and they all work instantly. Seemingly nobody works with Tom Brady out of college. Regardless of us, there are first second or a third round pick, Nikiel Harry, I thought he was great in college. I thought he reminded me of Anquan Bolden. He finally played last week, a couple of sniffs.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So it's the hole in their dynasty. I think that's why the A-B story won't go away. And by the way, Brady has acknowledged this, that young players, it's not his job to babysit him. I mean, we've had a lot of, you know, young players over the years try to come into our offense. It's a challenging position because there's a lot that's put on receivers. You know, young players, it's hard to count on there's been, you know, not a lot of young players that have had major contributions in our offense. That's just the reality of that position.
Starting point is 00:21:56 We have, I think, a high level of communication, a high level of detail. And I think sometimes it takes guys a few years to understand that. Yeah, a few years or they don't work at all. And we've seen a lot of that. All right, 40 years in the business, if you gamble on football, you'll like you play fantasy football, or you just want the smartest guy who breaks down stuff as objectively as anybody can. It's Greg CoSell. So let's go to Deshawn Watson.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Let's talk about that because I thought that was as, I think he's a very poised player. I thought he lacked composure. I thought he played poorly. What did the tape say? He did play poorly. And in fact, I thought it was arguably one of his worst games. And it started with that sack forced fumble on the first. series. And the thing that immediately stood out to me on that play is when he took the snap
Starting point is 00:22:41 from center, he drifted right into the pass rush. And then because he himself caused the pressure in order to avoid the pressure, instead of just sliding back to his right, because he had Hopkins wide open on the dig, he ran to his right, and he made the play frenetic. So that started early in the game, and he played that way for much of that game. So it was just one of those games where he played poorly, I would expect he'll play much, much better tonight. I want to go to another young player. We haven't talked a lot about him. You know my affection for him, Sam Darnold. I do not like the Jets offensive line. Lavian Bell can't find crevices either. But I do think in the last two to three games, he's more settled, he's more measured.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Now, he's, again, Hill on Cork, an egregiously bad throw every weekend. But I think the last two or three weeks, there's been some progress. At least that's what my eyes tell me. me, they play the Raiders this week. What have you seen? Well, I think Donald's a fascinating watch because I would say overall that his style is there's not a lot of rhythm or comfort to his game. He often has the look of a quarterback who's playing fast. And he's a very odd guy in this sense, Colin. His feet in the pocket look heavy, but his feet look lighter when he's out of the pocket on the move. Fascinating. And that's very rare for a quarterback. So I think there's good things to like. He's an awkward thrower. His eyes and feet don't
Starting point is 00:24:04 work together particularly well. There's too many throws where he does not step to his throw, yet he can make throws when he does that. I think in the last couple of weeks, there's been a little better meshing between Donald and Adam Gase, and there's been some well-designed plays that have worked very effectively. So I think that will continue to get better, but I always find him an interesting evaluation for me, even going back to his days at USC. Well, it's the Russell Westbrook thing. Russell-Wexbrook's a great athlete, but was he ever a great point guard? Sam Donald's a great athlete, is he a great natural thrower of the football and a great quarterback? There are guys. Correct. Sam, to me, is just an athlete who make stuff happen, but he can be inartistic.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He can be ineligent sometimes when you watch him play. And those are two good words to describe him. I still think he must become a little more decisive in eliminating what's not there and isolating what is there within the structure of the play call. And then I think he'll become a better player because you can't live off outside of structure plays. One of the games that's getting overlooked, all know New England, Dallas is big, and we know San Francisco Green Bay is lost in that is the Rams Baltimore on Monday. And it's interesting. I just looked at a line out of Vegas and the spread is three. And I thought, boy, Baltimore, my eyes tell me Baltimore has a real identity. And the Rams kind of appeared to find there's a little last week. So let's address the elephant in the
Starting point is 00:25:27 room, Todd Gurley. He looked pretty good. They kind of feel like they're back to being what they kind of want to be? I mean, did you take anything from that Rams win over Chicago? The only thing we don't know is if that Cessity was the mother of invention, because they did not have cooks and woods. So what they did in that game, which they have not done under Sean McVeigh, is they had 34 snaps where they had two tight ends on the field. And in their previous nine games, they only had 65 snaps total with two tight ends on the field. So they lined up with two tight ends, and they ran Gurley. And that's what they did in that game. He had 25 carries. But I must admit, watching Gurley, and this is watching the tape.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I think at this point, and maybe it's injury, he's a straight line, stiff downhill runner. He's got very little wiggle, not much lateral agility. He doesn't have the burst he used to have. There's no more explosive violence to his running where he breaks tackles. This is what Joey and I said. He's good, but the juice, the wiggle, it's gone. This is what he is, and by the way, you're paying him, so give him his 18 to 20 tackles. By the way, let's segue
Starting point is 00:26:36 to a team where I think they'll be in the playoff chase for another five or six weeks. But when Deshawn Jackson left the Eagles, so did all their speed, you called it, they're flat. They're slow. And they're slow and they're flat. And I think you've been
Starting point is 00:26:52 ahead of this. You just kind of think they're a draft away from getting faster and more competitive. They need Alabama's receivers. I mean, and Wynce did not play well this week. There's no margin for error at all. with their offense. Zach Gertz is a very good tight end, but not the kind of tight end who can be your number
Starting point is 00:27:10 one weapon because there's not a vertical element to his game. Right. So there's no margin for error on offense. They did not run the ball particularly well. They had one long drive, and they only had one play in that drive, I believe, over 10 yards, and that's a very hard thing to do in the NFL. And the one play over 10 yards was a 21-yard screen to Goddard. But they are a very slow offense.
Starting point is 00:27:32 their trio of receivers, even when Jeffrey comes back this week, is still bottom third, maybe bottom two or three in the NFL. And I think the players they have and the quarterback don't mix. Because Wence is not a pinpoint Drew Brees type player. He's much more of, let's say, and I'm not, you know, I'm talking stylistically. I don't want people to think, oh, you're comparing him to a Hall of Famer. Wentz is much more, I think of a Brett Farr mentality. Yes, I totally agree, yes. And so I don't think that goes together.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Let's shift to the Cowboys and New England. Speaking of weapons, the Cowboys are in the top two or three in the league. How does their offense match up against what appears to be the best secondary and the best defensive mind? How does the Cowboys offense match up against New England to you? It's going to be fascinating because let's assume Cooper is Cooper Health. We don't know that, but let's assume their trio of wide receivers is as good as there is in the league. Yes, yes. And then say what you want about Zeke.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I know the last two or three weeks, the numbers haven't been big, but I don't think we're going to say he's not a great player. So they have everything. Now, Collins will be out, but they still have a very good D-line, O-line. Prescott's pristine in the pocket most of the time. It's a really good offense. So I don't think that Belichick will dramatically change his approach. I don't think all of a sudden you'll see high-percented zone.
Starting point is 00:28:56 They do play a lot of man. the question is who does Gilmore match up to. Because there's different ways to do this. You can match up to the number one, or you can match up to the number two and double the number one. You know, there's many ways to go about playing. You can do combination coverages. That's frequency, depending on the situation.
Starting point is 00:29:16 To try to get into Belichick's head, hey, I'm not going to presume I know what he's going to do, but this to me, this unit matchup is the most fascinating unit matchup of the weekend. Good stuff. Now let's talk about the Patriots offense. We know Grong. Not very good. No, no.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Now, it is very, it's customary to blame the quarterback, like when the ram struggled, it's all goff. But I will say this about the Patriots left tackle. It's not good. It's a problem. That seems to me, I thought Tom was very frenetic. He wanted the ball out quickly. It was in his head, not seeing ghosts, but hearing something. What do you make of their offense and the problems that persist?
Starting point is 00:29:56 best? Well, without being in Brady's head, I think he's playing as if he does not trust his protection. Yes. Because I think that he's starting to play a little fast at times. He's getting the ball out even quicker than he normally does. He's been inaccurate on throws that he's normally not inaccurate on. Really, at this point, and then we don't know what Nikiel Harry is yet. At this point, I think Edelman is the only receiver he feels really good about, and Sunil might not even go this week, and he's still new. within that offense. The big difference is they're not running the ball. People forget, because it's Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:30:32 and he deserves all the credit people give him for obvious reasons, but people forget they ran the ball down the stretch last year. They lined up with a fullback in Devlin who's out, and they ran the ball out of two back sets. And that was the foundation of what they did down the stretch
Starting point is 00:30:48 the last 7, 8, 9 games. They have not been able to do that this year. Yeah. No, listen, I think people are just forgetting. This is not Brady's getting old. Kicker, left tackle, gronk. They don't have special athletes. I think you're really right on this. I think Edelman's the one guy Tom feels comfortable with, and it ends after that. So let's go to San Francisco Green Bay. You know, it's funny. Aaron Rogers will get the press. Aaron Jones may be the most important player for the Packers, because I do think
Starting point is 00:31:18 you can at times run against San Francisco. So, you know, let's talk a little bit about this game. Now, Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray twice in the last three weeks have given San Francisco's defensive line a little pause. Do you think Aaron has that same kind of nimble ability to make the defensive line for the 49ers slowed down a bit? At times, but I think they'll start with the run game because I think that Matt L.Four's approach. And I think that the way Jones and Williams have been playing as a one-two punch, they feel pretty good about their ability to run the ball and work off that. And as we've discussed, I think that Aaron Rogers has bought in quite a bit because the record obviously is good and that he's playing much more within the structure of the offense. And they're going to play a team that likes to play with a single high safety, although this past week they played a lot out of split safety. But if he gets Adams one-on-one, whether it's against Sherman or it might be Witherspoon being back this week, I think he's going to take his shots to Adams.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But I think that they'll try to run the football as a starting point of their offense. Now, George Kittle, who is kind of Gronk-esque for San Francisco, don't feel like they have quite the offensive identity without George. Your play of the week involves Jimmy Garapolo, who, again, sometimes I'll make a throw. I win at, but I think overall I like him. I think he's got confidence. He plays with a little swagger. So what's our play of the week? Well, let's just gummy prologue it real quick.
Starting point is 00:32:44 The Cardinals win what we call zero blitz on second and seven, just out. inside the red zone, almost the same spot of the field of my big play, with 447 remaining in the fourth quarter. So now that was on tape. The 49ers knew that. So now we get to this play, and it's later in the fourth quarter, obviously. Okay. So let's just run the play.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Okay. And we're going to run the play here, and we're going to see that it's going to be a touchdown to Wilson. And this was actually a really interesting play. So we're going to see Wilson catch this, and it's going to be a touchdown. But what happened here, and it's interesting Wilson was in the game here and not one of their other backs. So as we take a look at this, you're going to see that Garoppolo is in the shotgun. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Now, Wilson is going to be next to him as the offset back. Yep. Now, right now, it looks like there's a single high safety in the middle of the field. Trale and Thompson looks like that's what the coverage is. But this is going to be different. You see these three players, and this is not a double A gap blitz, it will be a triple A gap blitz. three defenders attacking the A-gap, you can't block that. Certainly not if you release your back, and the back released into a route.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So this cannot be blocked. Now, we're going to go back to the snap of the ball because we want to go back to the single high safety. He's going to vacate the middle of the field. There's the single high safety now. He's no longer going to be there. He's going to vacate the middle because he's going to be part of man-to-man coverage on the trips side of the offense. So this is going to be zero blitz. Wilson now is the offset back is going to be covered by Chandler Jones.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's obviously a mismatch. But they're hoping that the pressure will get there. Now, the Niners saw the same concept, as I said, three, four minutes earlier in the game. So now you see Wilson run his angle route, beats Chandler Jones. It's a touchdown. Really smart play call. I don't want to say they knew this was coming, but there's, I'm sure, an anticipation that you're going to get that because you would seen it from the exact.
Starting point is 00:34:48 exact spot on the field a couple of minutes earlier in the game. And by the way, when it happens, Garapolo has less than two tenths of a second. If he doesn't make that read, he's going to get smoked and be on his back because that got really close. Boy, that is. You talk about precision in the NFL. You've got to make that read. Boom, boom, boom, throw touchdown.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Greg Kosell, 40 years NFL films. Love having you on. Greg, thanks. Appreciate it, Colin. Thank you. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the iHeart radio app search her to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like i thought this was an
Starting point is 00:35:24 interesting quote michael bennett played for the seahawks then the patriots then dallas went and got him michael's had you know he's been uh polarizing in the news a lot martell's bennett his brother super talented he said bill bellichick is a savant who taught me a lot about football and it's interesting because the coach that michael used to play for he's calling a savant the coach michael benet now plays for jason Garrett's never been called to savant. Here's Michael Bennett talking about his brief time with Belichick in New England. I learned a lot of football in New England. I think at the same time, I think as a player, you go into the situation
Starting point is 00:35:58 and you think you know football, and then you meet somebody who's above you and knows everything about the game. For me, I learned a lot about football in that situation, learn how to execute a high level, learn what it takes to develop players or learn what it feels like to break down game planning from a different perspective. And I think it was good for me as a player, if everyone wanted to be a coach, it would be a good situation to take into that.
Starting point is 00:36:20 First of all, Michael's always been a bright guy. That's a pretty cool thing to say to break it down like that. But I looked at the line this week in this game, and I've said this to Joy, it should not be six and a half. It doesn't make any sense. Foxborough's worth three. Quarterback, Dak right now is playing better than Brady. That's not disputable. I'm a Brady guy.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Dax playing better. Weapons, not close Dallas. Offensive line, not close Dallas. Running back Dallas. Linebacker Dallas. Kicker, Dallas. Tide-end Dallas. Edge rusher Dallas.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Dallas. Secondary New England. That line is a Belichick line. That is a Belichick line. Three points for home field, three points to four points due to Belichick. And that's why I said, I think if Jason Garrett loses, he's in big trouble. That line makes no sense. It makes no sense. New England has no vertical threat, doesn't have a tight end, struggles at left tackle. Sony Michelle doesn't feel the same. Brady's 42. Dallas's star players are having star, years and it's a six and a half point line. They haven't lost there in 20 games. Six and a half?
Starting point is 00:37:22 That is... So we're going to play the herd hot seat today. So where is Jason Garrett? Where is Jason Garrett in terms of heat if he loses to New England? Here we go. The herd hot seat. Colin explains which NFL head coaches are feeling the heat using his favorite
Starting point is 00:37:40 thing in the world. Fire emojis. All right. They're very useful. All right. So I'll give you a name of a coach. And since you love fire emojis, you can give me a scale of one to five flame emojis, how hot the seat is for these coaches.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Freddie Kitchens. I think it's a five. I think a lot of people thought he wasn't ready for the job. They're four and six. I also think they lead in penalty yards. I think the word is out there. You've seen several reports. People feel like situationally, Freddie's kind of learning on the job.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So I'd say he's a five emoji. Anthony Lynn. I'd say two. Okay, remember, this is his third year, and he's been very successful. Last year he went 12 and 4, a year before, 9 and 7. And I also think, because Philip Rivers has thrown so many picks, the onus is on Philip. It'd be one thing if Philip was having an MVP year. Philip has regressed.
Starting point is 00:38:33 They had the Melvin Gordon situation. They had the Derwin James injury. So I think there's a little heat, but it is just burning embers. It's two. Bill O'Brien. Again, I'm only going to go, I'm going to go two. Most people think it's higher. But remember, he's been there for six years.
Starting point is 00:38:49 He's only had one losing season. And the people have always said the GM situation was toxic. So he went out. He went and got running backs and a left tackle. So I don't think, I think they're going to give him the rest of this year. I also think with Deshaun Watson, and they're going to win the division, really hard to fire a guy that keeps winning his division. He's only had one losing season.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Ron Rivera. Again, new owner, three emojis. So three burn emoji. New owner, less patient, never had back-to-back winning seasons. You can say it's Cam, but that's not, I mean, you've got a new owner, and this guy's never had back-to-back winning seasons. There's a little new owners change the temperature in the room. You go from two to three emojis.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Dan Quinn. This is five alarm fire. Arthur Brank has been very patient. By the way, since the Super Bowl year, their wind total has gone down every year since 2016. 11, 10, 7, and 3. They have a sub-500 record since the Super Bowl, and Kyle Shanahan leaves, who we all acknowledge is a great coach, and it feels like Kyle Shanahan was a bigger part of his early success
Starting point is 00:39:59 than maybe Dan Quinn. Matt Nagy. See, I think he's only a two-flame guy. First of all, he won coach of the year last year. And again, much like Anthony Lennon and Philip Rivers, I think people say you can't win with Mitch Trubisky. Minnesota's really good. Green Bay is really good.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Detroit's probably the best fourth place team, arguably, in the NFL. So I think Matt Nagy gets off the hook. Trubisky gets him off the hook, too. Yeah, I agree. Matt Patricia. I would say only two now. It could easily be three because I don't trust Detroit's front office and ownership. But in the end, Matt Stafford got hurt.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And the minute Matt Stafford got hurt, and he's got some impressive wins. He beat Belichick. There are a couple of wins in here. You're like, oh, okay. Matt Stafford's injury keeps him from three to two. Pat Shermer. Now, I think Pat Schumer's at three. The Mara family is patient.
Starting point is 00:40:49 This could easily before. They start slowly. They just lost to the Jets. Okay, and the Jets are considered a total rebuild with a, I mean, really a total rebuild. And the Jets in their building, with the Mara standing there up in the box, beat him. I think he went from two to three.
Starting point is 00:41:05 They're two and eight on the year. And frankly, there are times they have looked completely not ready to play. in the first half of football games. And finally, Jason Garrett. I think it's four. If they lose to New England, I think it's four. Ten years, never made an NFC championship game. Six and four on the season.
Starting point is 00:41:30 His contract, by the way, is up. It is a clean break. Lincoln Riley is down the road. You've got two college coaches, Matt Rule at Baylor, and Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. Jerry has been very, Jerry will go to the college ranks. went to the college ranks with Jimmy. Jerry's not somebody that's afraid of the college ranks. Jason Garrett loses Sunday when he has a better O-line, better quarterback currently, better weapons,
Starting point is 00:41:56 better linebackers, better edge rusher, better kicker. Ah, I think it's tough. I think it's a tough spot for Jason Garrett. The herd hot seat. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.
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Starting point is 00:45:45 So what is the point of slowing down? Let's do it. All our odds provided by Fox Bet. Here we go. Ready to make some sweet cash? Collins going to give you his three sure bets for the college football weekend. It's time for Collins marquee three. Penn State at Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm going to take Penn State plus 19 to keep it relatively close. The last three games in this series have been decided by 1.1 point and three points and Penn State can move the football. Listen, Penn State ranks top 15 in scoring and scoring defense and scoring offense. So does Ohio State and Ohio State's better, but I'm getting 19 points. Also, Penn State, two and one against ranked teams this year. Ohio State goes to Michigan next week. Guess what? They struggle every year before the Michigan game. Penn State, got a good coach. They've got weapons on the outside.
Starting point is 00:46:43 They've got, this is a James Franklin's, a world-class recruiter. Ohio State's a better team. But 19 points is a huge number. Penn State covers. Ohio State wins at 33 to 23. Michigan at Indiana. I'm going to take Indiana plus nine and a half. Wouldn't be shocked if they won the game,
Starting point is 00:47:04 but I'm going to take the points here. I'm betting the number. Michigan again. Before they play Ohio. state the last 12 years, Michigan has been four and eight against the spread. Indiana's got a real offense here, folks. In fact, if you look at the numbers, points per game, total yards, yards per play, Indiana is better in all three. Okay, they've scored 27 or more in six straight games. Again, if you just look at numbers, Indiana can go toe to toe offensively and score,
Starting point is 00:47:33 and I think this to them is their bowl game. I think Michigan wins it, has to come from behind to do so, 2723, but I'll take the nine and a half with the Hoosiers, a legitimate move the ball offense. UCLA and USC. USC, I'll take them, I'll swallow the 14th. They have dominated this series, have the Trojans at the Coliseum, winning 9 of 10 at the Coliseum and 8 by double digits. UCLA, 3 and 17 in their last 20 roadies, O and 3 against teams currently ranked. They're a one-dimensional offense. Bruins can't throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And USC can still win the Pact 12 South. This is USC's last game, potentially under Clay Hilton. Will they play to fight for his job? They don't play next week. So are they playing to win the Pact 12? Are they playing to save Clay Hilton's job? By the way, when they don't lose the turnover battle at home, USC wins their games and they win them big.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I think USC rolls over a completely rebuilding UCLA role. roster 36 to 16. Tomorrow I'll have my blazing five, so excited for that. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline.
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