The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 11/27/2019

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

Colin says the Eagles have had a disastrous season and are only one game behind the Cowboys and that shows just how disappointing the Cowboys have been. He explains how an 8 team College Football Playoff would be a disaster because teams 4-8 are all extremely flawed. He says Russell Wilson is better than Aaron Rodgers and it's not even close. Plus, Greg Cosell of NFL Films talks about Dak Prescott's season so far and Aaron Rodgers struggles against the 49ers. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jerry gets mad after games. He'll go down, and he fumes a little if they lose a road game they should win or they win, lose a home game they should win. It is Wednesday and Jerry Jones is still fuming. Here he is this morning on the NFL network. No one in this country has earned the right to say, I'm a Jason Garrett man more than me. I am his man. The bottom line is we get graded. I'm in business. I don't have to win the Super Bowl. in business every year. I can come in six and have a hell of a year. But in this business,

you've got to come in first. You've got to come in first. And so fundamentally, you've asked for something that's a very narrow wonder to begin with. He's still fuming. And he went on live TV today knowing he would be asked questions about Jason Garrett. So he wants the message out. This is one of these things. If as an owner, you would just say, I can't do this. this interview, you'd cancel, say I've got big business. We have people cancel all the time in our show when they don't want a message out or they know we're going to ask a tough question. Jerry knew the question was coming and he went on live TV to answer it and double and triple and quadruple down on it. They're looking for a new coach. I want you to think about this. Is it

worse than we think? Just some context here. So when I say Philadelphia Eagles this year, you think of things. Massive injuries and Carson Wentz appears broken. Does everybody get that Philadelphia is one game back of Dallas? And Philadelphia hosts Dallas later. That Philadelphia's next three opponents, Miami, Washington, and the Giants, a mess. Dallas has eight and three Buffalo, at Chicago in horrible weather, and then Sean McVey and the Rams. Folks, everything has gone wrong for Philadelphia this year. They started the year. They had cluster injuries in the secondary.

I've never seen it. They didn't have enough cornerbacks on their roster. Then their offensive line loses their left tackle. Carson Wentz appears broken. Last Sunday, they were missing six offensive starters. In Philadelphia, over the next three weeks, is going to be heavily favored to win each game, and Dallas, very reasonably, could lose two.

When you step back, it is worse than we think. Philadelphia should be done. Philadelphia in Baltimore's division would be done. In New England's division, would be done. In San Francisco, Seattle's division would be done. In the Minnesota Packer Division, would be done. Philadelphia's got a quarterback that's broken, an offensive line and a secondary and a wide receiving core in major crisis all year.

And there are a 10-point favorite are the Eagles to win this weekend. So there are those speculating. Remember, Dallas's quarterback has had a very good year. Carson Wentz has broken. Philadelphia has had massive physical crisis all year. Dallas outside of Vanderex mostly been healthy. So you start lining stuff up. There's a reason that Jerry, it's Wednesday.

He goes on live TV. He didn't deck the interview. He wants the message out. There are those speculating if they lose to Buffalo tomorrow, they could fire Jason Garrett in season. I don't see that happening. I do think they beat Buffalo. But it is remarkable when you juxtapose the Eagles who get Dallas at home

before the end of the year in bad weather and Dallas, this race should be over. This should not be close. One quarterback's broken. One's having his best year. One team's been decimated. One team's been mostly healthy. Very interesting in Dallas.

All right. So every Thanksgiving, we eat a lot. We gorge tomorrow, right? My game plan with Thanksgiving's always been eat two small meals. I'll eat a light Thanksgiving dinner. And then I'll go back at about 9.30 after a nap. And I'll have another one. So I'll eat twice tomorrow.

I'll go less is more on both. I tend to be a less is more person. I don't stay out that late. I don't party that hard. I like nice stuff, but I'm usually in bed early. I'm a less is more guy. I've been arguing this with TV executives forever. Less people on TV.

Fewer voices. Don't put 13 people on a set. It gets lost. You ever watch CNN during their election coverage? They have like 42 people. Just give me a real strong person and an analyst and maybe a third and then I'm out. And that's talk about the election. So last night, the playoff committee comes out, Ohio State 1, LSU 2, Clemson 3, Georgia, 4, Alabama 5, Utah 6.

My takeaway is, as I've been saying all year, the committee wants two SEC teams in, and they're going to get two SEC teams in. SEC teams are getting in, two of them. That's what they want. That's what they've been doing all year, meaning if Alabama beats Auburn and looks ugly, they'll get in over Utah regardless of what the Utes do. But college football has always in my life, less has always worked for college football because college football is the one sport that has urgency. You have to watch the games. You can't lose two games. Everybody this year, here's all I hear.

We've got to go to an eight-team playoff. Eight teams is the solution. More, more. I want you to think about this. Yesterday when they made this release of the playoff rankings, none of us even like the number four team this year. Georgia at home got smoked by a bad South Carolina team. The number five team, Alabama's using a backup quarterback.

They've played one good team they lost. Utah lost a USC and USC was on their third string quarterback. If you start looking at the teams ranked just below Alabama 5 and Utah 6, Penn State 9 and 2. could sneak in if we had an 18 playoff. Really, Penn State's played two really good teams. They lost to both. Minnesota's 10 and 1.

If we had an 18 playoff and they beat Wisconsin, they could get in. Minnesota started the year out of conference by struggling against South Dakota State, Fresno State, and Georgia Southern. They beat Georgia Southern 3532. Wisconsin beats Minnesota. They could get into an 18 playoff. They lost to Illinois as a 25-point favorite. You all want eight teams.

You all want more. College football has always been better with less. College football, even more so than the, we got 162 major league baseball games. We got 82 hockey games. We got 82 NBA games. NFL wants to add to their schedule and give us now, what is it, 17 or 18 games. College football has always been, oh, you got to watch Saturday. You call your buddy, Clemson's down to Louisville.

You all watch this game. If they lose this game, they're out. and you want to add more. Who would be in this year? A Minnesota team that struggle with Georgia Southern and lost to the best team they've played? I mean, what do you want? I look at college football this year

and I see three exceptional teams. Ohio State's the best football team I've seen. Clemson's the second best football team I've seen, although it is hard to get your arms around Clemson because the conference they play in is just so awful, but I think they're great because they have a great coach, a great quarterback, and great playmakers. And then the third best team I've seen is LSU, which has a regrettable defense by SEC standards,

a remarkably bad defense for a team that's going to win the SEC, but they're spectacular on offense, quarterback, running back, wide receivers, it's LSU, athletes everywhere. But we always want more. Ask yourself in an 18th playoff this morning. Who would be the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, teams? Really? People struggling? People losing to South Carolina at home?

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. I was assured, and you know, people think, and I've said this, I've always liked Russell Wilson more than the experts, and I've never liked Aaron Rogers quite as much as the expert. So let's be fair going in. Aaron's a little condescending. I think he struggles in relationships with, I mean, I've seen his family call him out, sometimes on the sideline by himself.

There's things about his leadership and arrogance, condescending I don't like, but I think Aaron's a first ballot hall of famer, and I don't think he's a bad guy. Russell Wilson comes in on a defensive team with a legendary coach. He's a little shorter. He runs too much. Third round pick. I think Russell Wilson is the most underrated player of my lifetime in the National Football League. And I'm dead serious when I say that.

I think Russell Wilson over time is now better than Aaron Rogers. I don't even doubt that for a second. And so I was told this year two things. Firing Mike McCarthy would solve everything. Okay. And I was also told you've got to give Aaron Rogers and Matt LaFleur time. Give them to Thanksgiving as was kind of the refrain from everybody. Okay, that's fair.

So Mike McCarthy's a bum, won a Super Bowl, but a bum. And that you give Matt LaFleur eight weeks, nine weeks. weeks, 10 weeks. Give them to Thanksgiving before you start judging. So here's the numbers this year without Mike McCarthy. Completion percentage, Aaron Rogers, 17th in the NFL, passer rating 12, touchdowns tied for 10th. That's with a star wide receiver, a star running back, and a very talented tight end. A running back better than Russell Wilson, a star receiver better than Russell's, and Russell doesn't throw much to the tight end. Okay. Colin, that's not fair.

Let's start judging him last couple of weeks. Matt LaFleur was new. Okay, you're right. My bad. Let's go to the last three weeks. Aaron's one and two. In three weeks, two touchdown passes, and an 82 passer rating. Whereas everybody works immediately with Russell Wilson.

You want me to now give him 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 weeks to make all these young receivers work. Okay. Do you realize Aaron Rogers this year? his completion percentage of passes over 10 yards is 45%. He didn't have one against San Francisco. Not one. Russell Wilson has the 31st rated pass blocking offensive line. Went into the teeth of San Francisco with less weapons and beat them.

Aaron Rogers off a bye game was over in eight minutes. Aaron Rogers, I keep hearing about his offensive line. Aaron Rogers, under pressure this year, has a passer rating of 75. Russell Wilson, with a lower rated offensive line, has a passer rating of 94. Russell wins more. Aaron Rogers has a career losing record on the road. Russell Wilson is 16 and 4 in his last 20 in the Eastern time zone, in geographically isolated Seattle, longer flight, longer trip.

Russell Wilson wins more in a tougher division. He wins more close games in a tougher division. He wins on the road more in a tougher division. Everybody works instantly with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson doesn't need everything to be perfect. He's got a defensive coach who largely didn't acknowledge him for three years as part of the winning. It was Marshawn Lynch.

It was the great defense. It was just recently, Pete's really put his arms around him. So Mike McCarthy was going to solve everything, right? And let's give Matt LaFleur time. I watched Russell Wilson against San Francisco single-handedly with a gadget-wide receiver, a rookie wide receiver, brand new Josh Gordon, a pass-blocking line that can't block, go to San Francisco and single-handedly keep Seattle afloat and win the game. Aaron Rogers off a buy.

Week 11, you know, blown out eight minutes. It's all I'm saying, I don't think I'm a hater. I think Russell Wilson today's a better quarterback than Aaron Rogers. And I don't even think it's close. I'm watching it week after week after week. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. One of the amazing things about the New England Patriots is that they've never,

this is kind of a fascinating thing. They've been in nine Super Bowls. they've never had a touchdown in the first quarter of any Super Bowl, which is unbelievable. The best coach, the best preparation, the best game plans, the best quarterback. New England's never had a touchdown in the first quarter. They feel out teams. What New England does better than any team in my life, and I don't even think the people that hate New England could dispute this, they're the best adjustment team ever.

They feel you out in many big games, all the Super Bowls. It's just a feeling out, going at half, and in that first. 13 minutes they're able to fundamentally change the way they're playing. Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator, and he talked about those 13 minutes, and the advantage of having a veteran quarterback and a 70-year-old offensive line coach and a running back coach that's been there forever, and Belichick's been there forever, and he's been there forever, how much they can get done in 13 minutes at half. You usually walk with a couple of the guys on the field,

and, you know, they have a few things that they want to make sure that we get across, right? When we get into the locker room, they sit, give us their attention, we discuss a couple things. Anything that may be an issue that's come up repeatedly in the first half that we need to address, we try to do that right away, then anything that we need to adjust or anything we're going to change or put in at halftime, you discuss that, and then you want to try to make sure you let them know what we're going to try to start with in the third quarter as we go back out there. So it happens quick, but we have a veteran staff. The guys do a great job. The assistant coach do a great job of making sure that all the things that they want me to be aware of, that they have them charted, listed, and ready to discuss and quickly jot them on the board and then give the message to the players and then go back out and play.

First half is a dress rehearsal. We prepare watch it. 13 minutes. We change fundamentally how we play. Now that sounds very simple. But again, nine Super Bowls, no touchdowns in the first quarter. They always win the second half in Super Bowls. And again, you say, Colin, I mean, everybody does it their way. It is a, they do it. Stop blaming tripping. New England simply is better with the time they're given than your team is with the time you're given. Dallas made no adjustments at halftime in that 13 minutes. James Harrison, mostly with the Steelers, played with New England briefly. He said the overall attention to detail during after games before games is something he'd never even seen before.

What I saw there as far as their attention to detail, that is the most detailed organization as far as their X's and O's planning that I have ever seen. They meet about meeting. You know what I'm saying? I'm dead serious. When I first got there, obviously it was after Christmas or whatever, and I'm trying to learn the playbooks. I call my coach.

I'm like, you know, I'm having some questions about this certain defense and what I'm supposed to do. And he's like, well, just come on in. We can go over it and look at it on the film all this. I'm like, come where? He's like, come down to the facility. I'm like, you're still at work? He's like, yeah, we're all here.

This is 9, 30, 10 o'clock at night. They do a better job with their time than you do. Work harder, nobody cares. Another reference to Gucci, Maine, who I now just call Gucci. Work harder, nobody cares. This is, you know, it goes back to the Tom versus time. And by the way, this is a season.

So the offence, the Rams have had an offensive line crisis and a running back crisis. They're six and five. Philadelphia has had a injury crisis, an offensive line crisis. They're 5 and 6. New England has had both and they're 10 and 1. Their left tackle, they just got him back, Isaiah win. Their center pro bowler out for the year, kicker out for the year, pro bowler, fullback,

one of two teams in the NFL that uses one out for the year. Their first round pick now last week finally played. Last week they missed Mohamed Zanoo, Philip Dorset. Their two and three receivers, biggest game of the year, still won. they had Josh Gordon let him go, had A, B, let him go. They've had a 42-year-old quarterback. They've had an offensive line crisis, a wide receiver weapons crisis, and they're 10 and 1. Only lost at Baltimore.

They just do a better job with time. I don't want to hear about the victimhood of your left tackles hurt in Philadelphia or Rams. We have a guard center, guard issue. New England lost their Pro Bowl center. They're fullback, which they use. wide receiver crisis all year, left tackle crisis, kicking crisis. It's like, remember the documentary Tom versus Time. Like, I tell my kids all the time, no victimhood here.

Like, just, just you get time in life, sleep a little less, sleep a little less, work a little harder. Here's Tom versus Time, the documentary, Tom's off season. I watch tape all day, Monday, all day Tuesday, and Saturday before the game, I watch film. And then Sunday morning I watch film. I don't know why I can sit here and watch it and, you know, process information quickly, but I can. Running and lifting has been much harder to develop than this. This has kind of been in me.

I mean, I could literally like just watch film all day. I go back to, it's one of the craziest things about the Patriots. Best coach, best quarterback, no first quarter touchdowns in the Super Bowl. They get a field goal. That's about it. They just feel you out. They go in 13 minutes. they change the way they're playing, then they go out play a Seattle.

They go out play in Atlanta. They go out play. And it's funny about the Super Bowl, they could be 9-0. Like their losses have all been on, you know, the tip ball, the last play, the David Kyrie catch. It's really remarkable. I just have a lot of respect. Do better with your time, NFL.

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So Jerry Jones was on, this morning, he was on the NFL network. He was talking about Jason Garrett. Jerry had stuff to say. He's still fuming. And he was talking about, you know, they've paid everybody, right? Like they're paying Jalen Smith early. They paid Zeke early, two years early. They're going to pay Amari Cooper early.

and they haven't paid DAC, even though DAC a couple of weeks ago was in the MVP conversation. And Jerry said, I'm not cheap here, but you are hearing increasingly the franchise tag stuff, meaning they'd pay DAC instead of a four-year contract, they would just pay him huge for one year. That's what Washington did for years and years with Kirk Cousins because they like Kirk, but they didn't want to get tied into a four-year contract with Kirk Cousins. There's a lot of speculation Jerry's going to franchise tag him, which is, okay, I'll pay a $28 million, I'll pay a $30 million for a year, but I still want to kick the tire some. So Jerry was talking about, you know, the money, DAC and all that stuff this morning.

Let me just say this. I think all of us, including the fans, want to win a damn football game. Okay? Now, I know we've got a lot of other things to think about who's coaching, who's playing, who's compared to another player someplace else. How about let's win some ball games, folks? We can take out other stuff. I'm not known as a guy who gets hand cramps when I'm writing checks.

I love that quote. Here's the thing. Dak is 0 and 4 against opponents with winning records. And in those four games, he's completing 61% of his throws, 5 TD 6 picks, and a passer rating of 82. I have always struggled evaluating Dak. I didn't like him out of college. And even his first year, 13 and 3, I'm like, I don't like what I see.

Then I bought into him to his second year. I love his intangible. Sometimes I don't love his tangible. He is the trust fund kid of quarterbacks. He inherited a great O line. He inherits Zique. Then they get Amari. They've got so many weapons.

It is tough. And so I think what Jerry's saying here is, I'll pay and I'll pay early. And I'm not cheap. But you've got to win big games. And DAC this year is 0 for four against the best teams he's played. And he's not been good with all these great weapons. And that's why owners. I don't like the franchise tag for players, especially quarterbacks.

You're trapped. A team can just keep you. But for owners, it does protect you because it is very hard to evaluate the quarterback position. It's the hardest thing to evaluate in sports. You can tell how many quarterbacks, Russell Wilson, did we ever think he would be this good? Even after his first year. Did anybody guess Kyler Murray? Lamar Jackson.

So when you have a position that's incredibly different, you. to evaluate and is incredibly important to a franchise. The owners are like, give us the option to franchise tag. We'll pay him. We just don't want to get tied in for four years. And I think Dallas, a team that drafts very well, this scouting department is excellent. I think it's better than New England's in terms of college scouting. They're struggling with the same thing I am, you are with DAC.

Is it the line? Is it Dac? Is it DAC? Is it Amari? And by the way, I think even the coaching. staff in Dallas is having problems with identifying what they are. And the coaching staff watches film all the time. Is it Zeeks team? Is it Dax team? It seems like they lose confidence in Dack when they shouldn't and then have confidence in him in New England when it should be Zique. So this is why

you create the franchise tag, which is getting more steam with Dack. It's hard. If you make a mistake at quarterback, you're buried, you know, golf in the Rams right now. Are they toast for four years? I don't think so, but Penny, people are speculating that. And it protects the owners. It text the coaches. It doesn't, it's not that you're not paying the kid. You're just not giving him $150 million. You're giving him $28 for one year. So interesting thoughts by Jerry, win some damn games. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. We usually have him on Thursdays, but we don't have a Thursday show tomorrow. And I think if you're, if you bet football,

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I hope you have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow. Thank you very much. So we watched Dallas in New England. One of my questions with Dallas all year has been, what is their offensive identity when you watch film? What do you think they think their offensive identity is? I think they're struggling right now as to determining whether their offense still runs through

Ezekiel Elliott or whether they believe that they can transition into a little bit more of a passing team given the fact that their three receivers are among the top two, three receiving trios in the NFL. The other issue I think they're struggling with that plays into this is the fact that for the most part over the last three, four weeks, they've not run the ball as efficiently as they had earlier in the season. Yeah. So I think they're struggling with exactly what their identity is.

They had a really difficult time with New England. When you play New England, Colin, you have to be able to defeat man coverage. You can do that with scheme or you can do that by finding your best individual matchups. They really couldn't do either. And Prescott had a bad game. In a game like that, you don't get a lot of throws. And when you do get those throws, you have to make them and he missed them. and therefore they really struggle to move the football.

Now, they'll play Buffalo. We know that I've said this. The bills play defense. I like their staff. Do they have a low ceiling with Josh Allen? But I go back to his last six games, 11 TD's one pick. He was wild and erratic in college. He's certainly not as erratic as he was in college.

I imagine the tape's pretty complimentary to Josh Allen. Yes and no. I think that Allen still at times is scatter shot and can be very very, erratic with his ball placement. He had an interception this week in which that was the case. He's less prone to be reckless and make those undisciplined plays that we used to see. But we don't know how we'll be in a tough game like this on the road. Obviously, the toughest game he's had this year theoretically was against New England, and the erratic element to his play and the interception showed up in that game. But the big thing that stood out from this past week,

and it won't happen every week, but he had missed a ton of open deep balls. this year. And that's been a problem with him, and he hit one this week. Now, you're not going to hit four or five of those a game, but you do get a couple of opportunities like that every week. And if he can hit those, that changes their offense. But he's

still a little erratic, and he runs less, which is a good thing. But when he does run, he's very effective. You know, I had watched Kyler Murray two times and Russell Wilson once gives San Francisco's defensive line a little pause. Aaron Rogers off a bye,

that game was over in eight minutes. Aaron, I mean, Aaron did not complete a pass over 10 yards. Correct. He is completing 45% of his throws this year over 10 yards. Now, again, collarbone surgeries, maybe it's Matt LaFleur. Obviously, the offensive line I think we've discussed isn't as good. But when you watch the San Francisco game, it was like one of those early Tyson fights. It's just over.

What was it primarily that you saw on film? Well, I think the 49ers did some things a little bit differently in this game. I thought they really featured disguise and late movement to get to their zone coverage concepts. And again, it's not a matter of fooling a quarterback. You don't go into a game saying, hey, we're going to fool Aaron Rogers, and that's the foundation of our game plan. But there's a couple of times in every game, depending on the down-and-distance, depending on the field position, where if you show one thing and then get to something else,

you can, in a sense, fool the quarterback. That happened a couple of times in that game. Plus, I think their offense has not been consistent enough running the ball in recent weeks, even though I love their backs. And they have not used Jones in the past game over the last three, four weeks, the way they were earlier in the year. And I think that's something they have to reassess. Aaron Jones is a very good receiver who can be detached from the formation,

and they've not been throwing him the football and using him that way over the last three. four games, and I think that has really hurt their offense. Yeah, they don't match up terribly well against physical defensive fronts. Philadelphia gave them problems, so San Francisco gives them problems. You know, you don't want to have an identity where people can say, okay, this is what they don't do well. And it feels like with Green Bay, you attack them up front, they just don't, they fold a little bit. They don't feel like the same team.

Is that fair? Well, what a lot of teams are doing now, and it's not just the Niners or the Eagles, but a lot of teams that's become part of the league is they're lining up with fronts that almost dictate one-on-one blocking and pass protection across the board. And if you have a weakness in your pass protection, and the Packers, to me, based on film study, are not quite as good up front as I think a lot of people think they are. I think then individual players can be exploited, and I think that that's come to bite them at times. You know, I've always felt, I want to talk about the Saints, because in the last couple of weeks, there's a little pause with the Saints and they lose

to Atlanta, but I've always felt it is tough playing the same teams over and over in your division. And if you play Matt Ryan enough, he's going to beat you occasionally. And if you play Cam enough, he's going to beat you. And so when I watch a Carolina give the Saints real trouble, I'm like, well, Ron Rivera, no Sean Payton about as well as anybody in the league. So I always look at divisional games a little differently. Sometimes, you know, Arizona for years just gave the Legion of Doom, Russell Wilson, and Pete Carroll fits, because they'd seen every trick in the book Pete Carroll had. So I still think the Saints are really good, as I have my doubts with Green Bay in Dallas. What's the film say on the Saints today? Well, I think the Saints are very good for a number of

reasons. I think they're really well-schemed offensively, because the reality is they don't have a ton of weapons on the perimeter, although they do have dimensions. And I think that's an important point. You know, Ted Ginn's not an 80-catch guy, but Ted Kinn can still run by people, and you see that every week. Even if he's not catching a 50-yard touchdown every week, that's a dimension that they do have. And even Smith, he can run a little bit too. Now, Cook has been coming on in the last number of weeks, and they've been using him much more, and he's one of those tight ends who can line up all over the formation, and he can cause matchup problems. He beat Eric Reed the safety for the Panthers this week a couple of times, and Reed's had a good year at safety.

and they've got a very good run game. The numbers might not suggest it, but they can line up and run the ball, and they play a lot with six offensive linemen, and that's something not a lot of teams do. They had two big runs this week out of six-all-line personnel. I want to shift to the Rams Monday night. I want to talk Rams, then I'll talk Ravens.

Listen, New England's had an offensive line crisis this year. They're 10-1. Rams have an offensive line crisis. They're unwatchable. Is it golf? You know, I hear everybody now golf can't play. He's terrible. And I watched them against Mahomes a couple years ago on Monday night,

and I'm like, it looks like you can play to me. Primarily, if I said one or two things, this is why Goff and the Rams are a mess offensively. What would those two things be? Their offensive line has been a bit of a mess. And number two, their total inability to run the football with any kind of consistency. And that's made Goff, who to me is a good thrower, but not necessarily a high-level talent.

I think that's rendered him ineffective for the most part because I think Goff is to work. I think when the run game's effective and the O-line is effective and they can do what they ideally want to do, which is expand defenses horizontally and stretch them vertically and throw to open spaces in the middle of the field, when they can do that, they're effective. But if they can't run the ball and their O-line struggles to protect,

goth is not a very good, muddied, noisy pocket thrower. No, that's fair. Okay, so let's switch to Baltimore. It feels like the league is playing catch-up in the middle of a season. Like when they first introduced the Wildcat, and for about six weeks, nobody could quite figure it out. Baltimore, I mean, this again is they're against good teams, Lamar is completing 73% of his throws.

That's against good defense. Right. Now, maybe that's muted a little bit this weekend against San Francisco, but it does feel like Greg Roman's done it again. He did it with Kampernick. There's some guessing going on here. Eric Weddell said this week, I couldn't tell who had the ball. Were you kind of blown away by Baltimore on Monday night? And right now, teams are having a difficult time figuring out the scheme and the explosiveness of Jackson

as a movement player, I think probably catches teams by surprise. You can watch that on tape, Colin. And my guess is when you see it in person, it's a whole other animal. Yeah. I mean, he's just as explosive an athlete as we've ever seen at the position. And the scheme presents very defined reads and very defined throws for Jackson. And he's making those throws. Yes.

Now, he's dropping in a few really good ones as well. But you watch their tape and receivers are open. It's really schemed. It's a very difficult defense to defend. And, hey, don't get me wrong, I'm not smart enough. I don't have the answer to this. So don't ask me, what should you do? I'm not that smart.

But it's so beautifully schemed. I think it might take an off-season for teams to get a much better field how to defend this. Yeah, no, that generally we do in the NFL, but it does feel like the league's playing catch up. Their receivers are often wide open. So let's go, you know, it's funny. I've said this for years. I think Russell Wilson's one of the most underappreciated, not now, but was for years. Not anymore.

Yeah, he's a great player. But I hear a lot of these, and I always lean on you with this. and I think it's important for our audience. You come to me in the off season, a year before everybody else, you come to me and say, here's the receiver's backs, quarterbacks I looked at, and you do this well in advance of the football season. You'll do it in the summer when we talk.

I hear Tua, and I see, ah, Tua is Russell Wilson. And give me your thoughts on this, because I see some components of it, but he does get hurt and Russell never gets hit. Your thoughts on Tua? Well, maybe you and I disagree. this, but I don't really see him as very much like Russell Wilson at all.

I think that to it to me, and again, let's just watch the tape. And just so people understand this passed off season, not counting what he's done up this season, but last season, I watched one, two, three, four, five. I watched six games. All of Jerry Judy's past targets

and all of Henry Rugg's past targets. So obviously two was throwing the ball. So I've probably watched 250 to 300 throws the season before. I don't see him as Russell Wilson at all. In fact, if he were to become a great pro, I see him ending up being more like a Drew

Breeze. I think he's a rhythmic timing player. I think that's what his game is. Yes, he can move. And by the way, Breeze could move in his youth a lot more than people can remember. Yes, he did. But he's not Russell Wilson to me at all. I think that he's an

executor of a well-schemed passing game with good timing plus ball placement. Can make a second reaction play at times, but he's a very programmed player to me. And I think that he would end up being much more like a Drew Brees than a Russell Wilson. I like that a lot. That's interesting stuff.

So I think we're done 40 years. Can you believe that? I was five. Can you believe it? That isn't a long time to work. I've lived in all four corners of the country. I've paid taxes in nine states, 40 years. You can close your eyes and drive to work.

You know the exits. You don't even have to watch when you drive to work. And it's funny you say that. Sometimes that happens. I get to my office and I'm thinking like, how did I just get here? I wasn't even thinking about it. Greg, have a great Thanksgiving. You too, Colin.

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What are teams most thankful for? Is it the star coach? Is it the star quarterback? We thought we play a game today, Joy. What are teams in the NFL, little music, John, most thankful for this Thanksgiving. All right. Let's start with the Patriots. The Patriots more thankful for Tom Brady or Bill Belichick. I think you'd have to deduct this year. Bill Belichick is what they're most thankful for. Third down defense is top in the league. Scoring defense is top in the league. Number one in takeaways, multiple special teams touchdowns. This has not been Tom's year. It's really been Belichick's genius. And the ability to get the most out of a crisis situation, O-line, wide receiver.

They're the most resourceful team in the league. That's Belichick. Yeah. The Ravens, Lamar Jackson, or John Harbaugh? I would say in this instance, Lamar Jackson, there are things John has done that deserve great credit as a coach. You can't teach four, three, five speed at quarterback. Some of the Lamar stuff is the kids just as dynamic as anybody I've ever seen do this.

And again, I have given a ton of credit to John Harbaugh. But I think John would say there are plays in that game Monday night. He didn't coach. Lamar's doing some of this just because of his athleticism and his dynamic ability. He almost got sacked three different times in that game and made big plays out of it. That's the most thankful for Lamar. Are the Raiders more thankful for Derek Carr or John Gruden? I'm wrong on this.

And I like Derek Carr. I'd say John Gruden. John Gruden rolled the dice paying Trent Brown, offensive. lines better. He rolled the dice on trading Khalil Mack. They got Josh Jacobs the running back. John took big swings and he was right on all of his offensive big swings. Richie Incognito got heat. He's now the best guard in football. John Gruden, they're most thankful for. The Cowboys, more thankful for Dak Prescott or Ezekio Elliott? I'll go with Dak here. I think it's Dak's team. I think they're struggling with their identity and I think it's fair to

criticize Dak. He's O for four in the biggest games, but he's having his best year. His intangibles are incredible. The issue with this team is their defense. It's not their offense. It is their defense. Until last week, that was my problem. Last week, the offense didn't play well in crappy weather. It happens in Foxboro. The Saints, Drew Brees, or Sean Payton. I think this is one of Sean Peyton's great coaching years. He's getting the credit here. Five and O with a backup. Teams, teams unravel with backups. And it wasn't like their schedule was easy with Teddy Bridgewater. They had multiple playoff teams. One of them, if I recall, was Seattle in Seattle.

They faced the Cowboys. So Sean Payton's what the Saints are most thankful for. You love this team. The Cardinals, Kyler Murray or Cliff Kingsbury? Again, like Lamar, I'm going to go Kyler Murray. He's doing things you can't teach. This offensive line was terrible. Like, this was considered an absolutely awful offensive line.

Have you noticed how they have responded playing in front of Kyler Murray? The offensive line has had a very good year for Arizona. He is completing 66, 6.6. percent of his throws with a hundred passer rating in his last seven games. The kid is really special. You just don't watch their games. The 10 and 149ers, Jimmy Garapolo or Kyle Shanahan. I think it's Kyle Shanahan here because they're so good at so many things.

This defensive backfield was atrocious a year ago. They've gotten better on the back end. They lost Kwan Alexander and their defense has been special. John Lynch deserves some credit too for his pickup of Kwan Alexander, though he's gone for the year. They're number two in rushing, number one in sacks. This is beyond just the quarterback. Kyle Shanahan has changed the culture. They're a power running team with a really good quarterback.

Finally, the Seahawks, are they more thankful for Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll? Give the front office credit for getting Quadra digs, Gidevian Clowny, and Josh Gordon. So Pete and John Snyder deserve credit for that. But Russell Wilson is now 16 and 4 in his last 20 Eastern Time Zone games. He's become the best road quarterback in the league. Russell Wilson is 24 passing touch. sounds. That's tied for the lead.

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