The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/06/2019

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

Colin talks about the poor coaching in Dallas and why Dak Prescott's performance is becoming alarming because his numbers are largely based on garbage time. He starts to wonder if the Cowboys head coaching job sounds better than it actually is with Jerry Jones undermining your authority all of the time. Former Cowboys and Eagles CB Orlando Scandrick comes in the studio to talk about why Jason Garrett needs to go and why he still believes in the Cowboys more than the Eagles. Plus, FOX's College Football Analyst Joel Klatt talks about conference championship weekend and which team should be on the upset alert. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is a Friday. We are packed. We got fireworks down in Dallas. The owner swearing it, people. This is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're

live in L.A. on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. One hour from now are blazing five. The pressure is on me. I've never been below 500 ever. for an entire season, and I'm at 51%. I'm all fired up. Joy Taylor is joining me off that debacle last night.

If you're a cowboy fan, it was great if you're a Bears fan, Joy. I mean, Bears fans should really feel good right now. Great. Good or very confused. That division's got Green Bay in Minnesota, and the Bears have a fight in them. It just wasn't any good for the Cowboys. So let's start with this. Joy, there is a separation globally, but certainly in America,

between those who embrace tech and those who don't. If you do not embrace tech, you will make less money, have less options. There'll be an intellectual separation away from you, a productivity separation, a financial separation away from you. Tech equals speed. As the world gets faster, you better embrace it or you'll die. There is a massive gap in America between those who are willing to, who embrace tech and stay on the speed train and those who are rigid,

stubborn, they're falling behind. And the gap between those, it's not just a money gap. It's those that embrace tech and those who don't. Cities that don't, towns that don't, people that don't fall behind because the world's never been faster. This is also what's happening,

in my opinion, in football. Because when any business speeds up, the haves and have-nots is more obvious to see. Fastball, football has never been faster. We used to have 50 plays. Now there's 70 per team. There's no huddles.

There's less practice time. Half times are shorter because they have more interviews going in and coming out. So the separation between the haves and the have-nots in coaching, I've never seen anything like it. Sean McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, young guys come into the league, boom, at the top. Bill Belichick dominates his division. Andy Reid will for the next 15 years. Sean Payton is now separating. Tech is speed, and those who don't embrace it fall behind.

Football's the same thing. The game has gotten so fast, so demanding for coaches, you are seeing a huge gap between the halves, Matt Nagy, a brilliant young coach in Chicago, and the have-nots Jason Garrett. Last night's a prime example. A very limited quarterback, Mitch Trubisky, with okay weapons not special, were not only clever and high functioning, but then at halftime, when you have 13 minutes to adjust, they came out, Chicago did, with an unbelievable drive after adjusting.

Dallas had one great drive of the game. It was scripted, and then they were shot. And once again, Dallas with much better weapons, last three games, zero. points in the third quarter. Because as we know, the third quarter is the first quarter after halftime. Remember that article we talked about last week? The New England Patriot article with Josh McDaniels talking about why the Patriots are so great at half because they're so smart, they're so ramped up. Then in that 13 minutes, New England goes in, has a plan, goes to the board, changes, alters, adjust, dominates the third quarter. Every Super Bowl with New England,

they never score a touchdown in any Super Bowl in the first quarter. You wait for their adjustments at half. Pete Carroll's adjustments at half. John Hart, Garbaugh's adjustments at half. Andy Reid's adjustments at half. The Cowboys are awful in the third quarter. They don't adjust. They're not fast. The world's too fast for this staff. And the staffs that struggle off the script, Dallas is a terrible adjustment. Half staff, this is what you end up with. And we're seeing this all over the world. By the way, we see Andy Reid, we always think quarterbacks run this league, but Andy Reid had Matt Moore go toe to toe with Aaron Rogers. Sean Payton. and lost his starting quarterback, went 5 and O.

Mike Tomlin's on his what, his four-string quarterback. They're still in the wild card race. Freddie Kitchens has a star Baker-Mayfield. They're a mess. The gap between the haves and the have-nots is happening in America for those who, as the world speeds up, embrace tech and ignore it. Or get stubborn around tech. I don't need that phone, that iPad, that, yeah, you do. Or a money separation, an intellectual separation, a productivity separation.

This is happening in football. It is the fastest I've ever seen it. You got 70 plays. Let's go. Half time shorter. Less practice. And the McVeys and the Shanahan's and the Harbos and the Andy Reid and the Belichick and the Matt Nagy who's really dealing with a below average functioning quarterback.

But last night, he takes what Trubisky can do. He then adjusts at half of the drive of the game and the game's over. And I see a real separation. And we can keep looking around and blaming the coach and blaming this and blaming that and blaming the quarterback and blaming the left tackle and blaming Zeke, Dack after the game. He's searching for answers to what's happening to our football team. Can't put a finger on it.

I wish I could right now. If I could, obviously, we wouldn't be in this situation. We'd be getting over this and out of this slump. But that's the most frustrating part is we have the skill level. We have the players. We have the chemistry at times. But we're not playing together as a team complimentary enough when we need to. And we've got to figure out what it is.

Here's what it is. according to Warren Sharp of Sharp football, the last five years, Dallas has won just four games they trailed at half. That's it. It's a have-not staff, Dak. I mean, I'm not saying Dax, Dax's not talented enough to overcome a bad staff. Very few guys in the history of the game are.

The John Elway's, the Troy Aikman's, whatever. Very few quarterbacks can overcome a bad staff. But that stat says it all, Dack. Five years. Four games down at half came back. The game's fast, more plays, more adjustments. There's a separation, have-to-have-naughts, and Dallas has a have-not staff. And boy, was that on display last night with a have-coach.

All right, let's switch to Dak Prescott entirely here. He is now, this is kind of scary if you're a cowboy fan. We've seen this now over the course of a season. Dak Prescott is only good in two situations. to start the game with a script, generally with a lot of running support, and then in garbage time, the cotton candy of football. Doesn't fill you up. Tastes good, doesn't matter.

So he's good on the script, and he's good in garbage time. Now, it should be noted being good on the script does matter, because teams that take a lead in the NFL win about 55% of their games. So that matters. He's good on the script. I'd rather have a quarterback be good on the script. Joe Montana was great on the script. Troy Aikman was good on the script.

So he's good on the script, and he's really good in garbage time, which doesn't matter at all. Script does, garbage time doesn't. But the problem being is, last two games, second, third quarter, when you got to kind of elevate beyond script, 47 nothing, been outscored. Now, Dac has never been a natural thrower, and so he gets out of rhythm very quickly. I mean, I think we all admit this. There are guys like Mahomes and Aaron Rogers that are kind of natural throwers. Matt Ryan just looks easy.

Dax never been that guy, so he gets out of rhythm very, very quickly. But it's the problem when evaluating quarterbacks, and this is the hardest position in American sports to evaluate, because we use things like terms like, that guy's a winner, which is an empty adjective. When I hear NFL Scouts say, that quarterback at Oklahoma, that quarterback at Ohio State, that quarterback at Alabama is a winner. Of course he is. Every quarterback at Alabama, Oklahoma, Florida.

power five juggernauts is a winner. It's just empty. And there's also these stats with DAC. He's number two in the NFL wins above replacement. That's like the Mike Trout stat for the best baseball player of all time. And there's the fact that he's the second winning his quarterback after Brady. This is why this quarterback is in, this position is incredibly difficult to evaluate. Because if it was just about winning, Mark Sanchez won a lot.

Tim Tebow won seven straight. You got to watch the games. If you look at the box score last night, let's say you were just busy, I just didn't have time to watch the bears and the cowboys. You'd look at Dak Prescott and see six for 15 on third down, two for three on fourth down, 27 of 49, 6.5 yards a pass, no turnovers, did pretty well time of possession. But he was good in the first drive on script,

and he picked up 60, 70 yards in garbage time. In the NFL, you want that 38 million large a year, you got to be good in that second quarter. You got to be good at that third quarter. Now, some of it, I do believe, especially third quarter, is on this coaching staff. But DAC now is two in four in his six big stat games this year. It just doesn't matter. By the way, Lamar Jackson's stats last week weren't impressive. I thought he was, and they beat the second best team probably in the NFL San Francisco.

So this is concerning on DAC. I've never thought DAC is a natural thrower or can carry average parts. But Dallas is now going to pay a lot of people, including Dak. He's going to lose a top receiver, maybe a great right tackle. And unless they make a change at coach, this could get very ugly because he's now a script guy and a garbage time guy. And that's pretty much it. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

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three or four hours. He was not in the mood to mess around this morning with the local wacky FM guys that are talking to him or wacky AM radio guys on the Dallas Cowboys Station. The billionaire Jerry Jones was not in the mood when he went on. All right, Jerry, you come on every week, win or lose, you answer questions, you know the tolo's and the Cowboys fans want answers today. What answer do you have for how this team is playing right now? We're not playing very well. Are you embarrassed as an organization about how the team is playing? Hey, get your damn.

Okay. We're going to have a good visit this morning, but settle down just a little bit. I mean, as a Cowboys fan, Jerry. We've got a lot to go over. We're not going with your question, but I'm going to give you the answers I want to give you this morning. And I don't like your attitude to come in. I've been traveling all night, and I'm not, I don't have the patience to jack with you today. embarrassing is what they call a trigger word.

I probably wouldn't use that as a host talking to Jerry Jones, a billionaire. But be that as it may, there's another story this morning. Jane Slater, who's terrific. She's on our show regularly. He says Jerry and Jason will remain the coach. Jason Garrett will remain the coach. But I can confirm, said Jane Slater, a very real interest in Urban Meyer. I'm told Stephen Jones spoke with him recently.

You know, it's very funny. We've talked about this with Dallas. There is a difference between a great job and a glamour job. There's two jobs in the country that always stick out to me as glamour jobs. I don't know if they're great jobs. The Dallas Cowboys and USC football. And right now both, to me, have a coach that can't take them to the next level. The facilities are A-plus.

The legacy, the money's great. The resources are unbelievable. The stadium is fantastic. And oh, that's A-plus, A-plus, A-plus. But the Cowboys owner is the general. manager and talks a lot on local radio, sometimes throwing the staff under the bus. And by the way, the vice president is the owner's son. That ain't great.

Dallas and USC football, you know, they don't win big enough. They win based on some resources, the attractiveness, the allure, the facility, the money, no state tax in Dallas. USC wins and Dallas wins, but they don't win big enough. Shouldn't with those resources, they both be great all the time? but in one the owners the GM and his son's number two and in the other it's highly political at a college level at USC. It's very media driven with both the allure to take them back

to the great rich history of USC. They were great in the 70s and briefly with Pete Carroll. Ain't that great. Alabama's great. Ohio State's great. Oklahoma's great. USC history not as great as you think. Dallas Cowboys rich history. Last 20 years, it's a whole bucket. of nothing. It's just a

meh. It's just a nothing burger. In fact, since 1997, let me read it here. The Cowboys have won since 1997 three wild card playoff games. Jerry's vanity and ego and need for power.

Bumrush, Bill Parcells, a Hall of Famer, and Jimmy Johnson should be out of Big D. Also, Dallas, how great is the job? How great is the USC job? That's very political. Your assistant coaches can't afford to live in Los Angeles. It's too expensive. How great is the Dallas Cowboy job? And now you're going to be cash strapped because Jerry's going to pay DAC. They're already paying Zeke. They're paying the entire offensive line. You're going to

pay. You're already paid Jalen Smith. You're going to pay Van der Wesch in a year. You paid DeMaris, so you're going to be cash strapped. And how do we know the next coach, Urban Meyer, Lincoln, Riley, who ebbs Ron Rivera likes Dak? Maybe they don't. They won't have a choice. Jerry likes him. There's a big difference between a great job and a glamour job. And both are media-driven. The media insists USC's great.

And they insist the cowboy job is great. Glamorous. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. He played for 11 seasons with the Cowboys and with the Eagles. We love having him on Orlando, Scant. Thank you, Rick, joining us on a Friday post-Cowboy debacle, a free agent cornerback. Good to have you in Orlando.

Good to see you again. You were initially drafted by the Cowboys. Yeah, you cut me a season, though. What's that? You shorted me a season. Twelve years? Twelve years? My bad.

No problem. I did that once to Trent Dilfer, never heard the end of it. All right, let's start with this. Let's start with my concern about Dak Prescott. He's very good on the script, opening drive, and in garbage time. But I am concerned in the second and third quarters when quarterbacks need to, kind of put the team on their shoulders. I'm not seeing a lot from him.

Should I be concerned or is this a coaching issue? I think it's scheme deficient. I think they're not innovative enough. I don't know. I watched them last night and I see a lot of 12 personnel, which is one back, two tight ends, two receivers. And they're just stuck in 2000 and early 2000 football. I mean, then I turn on the Ravens and I see, you know,

Harbaugh and those guys, they put Lamar in every situation to succeed. They use every strength. that he has and you know the guys look great and I think that has it like mentally from a mental capacity to be able to adapt to whatever scheme I think yeah he was 13 and 3 as a rookie you figure the playbook out fast and I think um they're not able to run the football right now and if you look at his best years or his best games is when they got that rushing game going and when they can have opens up play action it opens up some single coverage down the field and some easier reads for him it's very interesting

his big stat games this year deck's two and four to your point he's better when the stats are down they tend to be, he can throw on play action. The running game's working. And after the first series last night, the running game disappeared. Actually, I looked at that. Zeke rushed for, what was it, 19 carries, 81 yards. If you take out 31-yarder, it's 18 carries, 50 yards, 2.7 yards of carry. That's not, I ain't good.

I mean, this is the NFL. You cannot just line up and just run the same place over and over and over and say, we're going to do what we do better than they do what they do, because that's just not. I mean, I think that's some of Jerry's frustration. I don't think he's paying, you know, for coaches to coach. He's put these people in place to coach. And I mean, I think Jason, I think he's a good coach, but I think it's got to the point where it's like, I don't even think he knows what to do. I think his job security, I think all the talk of him being fired. I mean, it's weighing on him. It'd be weighing on anyone. He's human. You know,

I think it's weighing on the team. I think, you know, not only when your coach gets fired, it's like a ripple effect, you know, assistant coaches get fired. Players at the bottom of the roster that that coach's guys lose their jobs and I think it's weighing on them all and I think the pressure is becoming unbearable for these guys and it's just they're not performing. It's very interesting you say that in your 12 years of playing and I've asked several people, that's very interesting. You talk about the bottom end of the players and the assistants. Were you ever in a locker room where there was a sense in week 10, 12, the coaching staff would be fired. Were you ever? It was my third year, 2010. We had won the NFC East the year before that.

We lost the, no, we won a playoff game. We won a first playoff game, and I think it was 15, 20 years. We're 1 in 7, we lose. You're Dallas. Yeah, we lose. We just knew, like, Wade was gone. I mean, and then Jason takes over. But Wade, like, he was a great coach, but his message was just, it wasn't getting by.

I mean, it doesn't matter what he said. We was the same result. You know, we were trying to do, like, the same thing over and over expecting a different result. And I think Jerry decided to make a decision, and he promoted Jason. and here we are now, nine, 10 seasons later, and I mean, you can see the writing on the wall. I mean, I think Jason knows Jerry well enough to know what's going to happen. I don't, I think he's coaching on borrowed time right now.

Do you think you can turn it around, or is the juice and focus lost for the season in Dallas's locker room? I think that they can turn it around. I think they can, you know, win two out of the next three to make the playoffs and to win the NFCs. But, I mean, when you look at long-term goals and what Jerry aspires for for his organization for this franchise and is to win Super Bowls,

And I just don't think, I think change is not always bad. I think it's inevitable. I think it's good. I think it will be good for both sides. And I think culturally, it'll be good. I mean, you got some of these players in their prime, and you don't want them to just adapt to the average culture. And they've been average, you know, by the standards of NFL.

They've been very, very average. Obviously, we mostly know who's going to make the playoffs. One of the spots we don't is Eagles or Cowboys. Now, the Eagles had a secondary cluster issue, a wide receipts. receiver cluster issue. Their three best offensive lineman, multiple times missing games. I could make an argument. I at least have

sympathy for what the Eagles have gone through. We know you love the Eagles, but I mean, let's just we can just speak facts. When their quarterback has to be a quarterback and pass the ball and they can't run it for 200 yards, he struggles. I don't care who he's throwing to. He struggles. I mean, it starts and it ends

with him. I compare this to Jason Garrett. You know, they say Carson's receivers, they drop a lot of balls and they say, Garrett's teams don't win. I mean, Garrett doesn't call him any plays, but he's the one who's shoulders to blame. So when the Eagles don't win, when they have to get in these games where they need Carson the past, he's the one that shoulders to blame. I think I'm going to stand on what I said weeks ago. I don't even think the Eagles know their deficiencies. I don't think that they think they're a bad team. To them, they're great. They're five and seven.

Their greatest five and seven team that's ever played in the NFL. I don't really... You think there's a lot of ego in that room? I mean, I don't think it's ego. I think that when you win a Super Bowl and you experience success, I mean, that's... success on the highest level of success. And I think there's still, like, that they pull from that. Like, all right, in our Super Bowl year, we had this adversity. And then the next year, we had this adversity. And I think in this league, you've got to approach things on a week-to-week basis

because it is definitely a week-to-week league. Oh, there's no, every week there's a game that we cannot figure out. And two others that surprise us. Absolutely. Let's move. The big game of the weekend. Oh, let me do one more cowboy question. Okay.

Jerry has had a history of hiring college guys, Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson. You've got Urban and Lincoln Riley. Do you believe Orlando they would go the college route where they've had real success or Parcell's success as well, Wade not success? Is there a route you think Jerry goes? I think with his quarterback and his running back, I think, you know, going the college route is a little bit easier. I think they can relate to the younger players right now.

In Dallas for a young roster? Yes. I'd be surprised to see Urban. Lincoln seems like it's like more along, you know, the Jerry route. I mean, Jerry wants to win bad, but he also wants to win with some flash. He wants to, you know, like, think about it. They've been trying to recreate this triplets idea. Like, you know, and I don't know how you recreate the idea of the guys that won three Super Bowls,

but they're trying. So, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lincoln Riley. But also, you know, I'd be a little bit surprised, but how much, like, influence and how much, how much of the voice of Zeke Elliott, you know, can come down, can help Irvin get that job. That's very interesting. I like what you said. Dallas not only wants to win, they want to win with some flash. Yes, absolutely.

Listen, it's a business. That's why Jerry got mad this morning at the Dallas guys when they said, are you embarrassed? Because what they were really saying is, are you embarrassed about your business? And Jerry got very testy on Dallas radio. Absolutely. This is my business, and this is a great business. I just don't like we're not winning enough games. All right.

Now let me go to the game of the weekend in many eyes. Kansas City at New England. When I was a kid younger, there was a guy named Don Coriel that coached with the Chargers. They were great every year. They were innovative, progressive, Dan Fouts, Callan Winslow, John Jefferson, Muncie. They were just

fascinating. They were Andy Reid. They were innovators, play designers. His coaching tree was successful. I feel Andy's the last great coach in football without a Super Bowl. But there are critics of Andy that say his football's built for September.

It's not built for late. So they go to Foxborough this weekend. Who do you like and why? I like New England. I just think their backs are against the wall. I think everybody's writing them off. I think Patrick, as as great as he is, I think the hopes and dreams ride on Patrick Mahomes' shoulder in Kansas City.

And I don't think that it has to be that way, but I just think that when it comes down to it, people do say Andy's September football. I don't think he runs the ball enough. I think he just puts it all on. on Pat's shoulder. And I think, Pat, you know, shoulders that responsibility. But I think that when you get into these tough games, you need to control the ball.

You need to control the flow of the game. You need to know when your defense needs to break. You need to know when you need to take some time. You need to know clock management. And over the years, I think Andy has lost a lot of playoff games by poor clock management. It's interesting. I'm the biggest Andy Reid fan in the world. But the criticisms are he doesn't develop great running games.

He's great for quarterbacks and receivers. By the way, the weather in September, October is perfect. as it gets cold and you need running games and less vertical explosion is where Andy has struggled. I think that's a fair criticism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Andy's a great coach, but I mean, Belichick, I think their backs are against the wall.

Their record at home in December is phenomenal. And I think, you know, Brady just does just enough. And I think, man, that defense, it's scary. They can make you play left-handed. When I say make you play left-handed, you'll prepare for something all week, and then you'll get to the game, and it's just like they've never done this before.

and by the time you figure out an adjustment is halftime, they got a two-score lead. Orlando Scandrick, so you're taking the Cowboys to win this division. Yes. Do you get, as a former cowboy and eagle, I have this feeling with you. You still like Dallas. You regret leaving that you'd almost like to see Dallas top it off here. Of course, but, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm a realist. I've, you know, been a part of both organizations.

They're black and white. They're the front of the page and the back of the page. They're totally different in their own way. I don't think the Eagles have a terrible organization, just they're different. I think Dallas's owner is different. Dallas's leadership structure from an ownership. General manager is different. I think Jason Garrett is night and day from Doug Peterson.

I just think they're totally different. But I think in this sense, Dallas has the team and the schedule and they got everything on their side for this. Yeah. They are the healthier of the two teams. and frankly, have been all year. And we sit here and we want to compare them and we want to say the Eagles beat Buffalo and they beat Green Bay and they beat Chicago, but we overlook what happened in Frisco, I mean, not Friscoe, I'm sorry,

we overlook what happened in Arlington, Texas. It wasn't pretty. And I mean, the Eagles haven't forgot. You know, the score didn't even really indicate the type of weapon that was served. Yes. Orlando Scandrick, the former cowboy and Eagle, great. seeing you. Want more Herd? The Herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. So there is a discussion

though this morning that Dallas is 6 and 7 and Philadelphia is 5 and 7 and Dallas is going to get not only a playoff game but a home playoff game and that makes people upset because Minnesota beat them and Minnesota is way better and Seattle is way better at 10 and 2 and they may have to play on the road or San Francisco, if they lost or the Saints would have to play them. First of all, conferences, divisions, regions, and resources have never been equal in sports. A Seattle team, regardless of the league it's in, has to travel way more than anybody else. In baseball, there is no salary cap, meaning Yankees have a billion dollars and Tampa Bay has nothing. We know in college football and college basketball, but primarily college football,

you can be in the same conference with somebody Stanford, and you can't get half the players in that Oregon does, of academic standards. Same for Vanderbilt, who can't get in the same kind of players, perhaps, that the football powers can in their same conference. You got to get over even. Here's the second thing. In the NFL, if you think you're in a great division, it ends really quick. I'll give you an example, because there's so much parity and because we have a regulated level of violence, guys get hurt. Two years ago, three NFC South teams made the playoffs, Atlanta, Carolina, and the Saints. Today, Carolina's fired their coach, Atlanta's going to fire their coach, Tampa's still a mess, and the Saints have separated. Now it's one of the worst divisions, and they don't even know who's going to be coaching Carolina in Atlanta.

Years ago, the NFC West was a laughing stock. Oh, then the Niners hired Jim Harbaugh, the Seahawks hired Pete Carroll, this kid named Sean McVeigh showed up, nine years old coaching the Rams, and now you look at it, plus Kyler Murray, and you're like, I wouldn't want any part of that conference. So resources have never been even. We also have, in recent memory, three different times. We're a division-winning team with an average record, beat a wild card team with a really good record. Chargers did it when they won a division at 8 at 8. Seattle did it when they won a division.

Remember that 7 and 9, they had to host the Saints. They did host the Saints who were supposed to be great. Marshawn Lynch had the run of the century, and they beat him. Carolina was 7, 8, and 1. and won a division. Everybody's like, it's unbelievable.

And they won a game over a wild card team with a better record. We know the SEC has better athletes than the PAC 12. It's not fair. You've got to get over the victimhood culture in sports. I understand life sometimes. There are real victims. Sports, regions, resources. I mean, Dallas makes so much money on its game day,

so much more than Jacksonville or Oakland do. Dallas, on money alone, on game day revenue alone, should never lose to a team like Tampa, Jacksonville, Oakland, Buffalo, and we just saw Buffalo go to Dallas and work them. I mean, there are weather advantages. There are tax advantages to play in Florida in Dallas. There's a reason the NBA teams in Texas, the Mavericks, the Spurs, and the Rockets have had some success. They don't take as much of your money, and the winter's pretty good.

The weather's pretty good in the winter. I always thought, God, if I was an NBA guy, I would want to play in the state of Texas. No state taxes, cool cities, and I'm in the middle of the country. I got less travel and less taxes. So you got to get over it. Dallas or Philadelphia are going to host a playoff game. Listen, here's the truth about Dallas. It doesn't matter where they play.

They're not lasting very long. Okay? They're not winning a playoff game. If they host San Francisco, they're going to get bludgeoned. If they host Seattle, they're going to get smoked. This is a completely out-of-rhythm offense below. average the average coach team that makes no adjustments. And listen, the owner Jerry Jones is Mr. Optimism.

And this morning on Dallas radio, Jerry Jones was in a lousy mood. All right, Jerry, you come on every week, win or lose, you answer questions. You know the tolos and the Cowboys fans want answers today. What answer do you have for how this team is playing right now? We're not playing very well. Are you embarrassed? Are you embarrassed as an organization about how the team is? You're going to have a good visit this morning, but settle down just a little bit.

I mean, as a Cowboys fan, Jerry. We've got a lot to go over. Now, go on with your question, but I'm going to give you the answers I want to give you this morning. And I don't like your attitude to come in. I've been traveling all night, and I don't have the patience to jack with you today. Yeah, that team's not going to last long. All right. It doesn't matter if they're play at home on the road.

They're not beating the Niners. They're not beating the Seahawks. And they're not beating the Vikings. They just don't have the coaching. They're not beating Kyle Shanahan. They're not beating Pete Carroll. They're not beating Mike Zimmer. They're not beating Kirk Cousins.

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We go to Indianapolis live, the voice of college football, Joel Clatt via the Coward Global Satellite Network. All right, Clatster, every time we have these championships Saturdays, there's four big conference championship. One upset is going to happen. There's going to be one. I don't think Georgia can beat LSU. I just don't think they match up with them. So that one I know is not going to happen. And I don't think the Buckeyes will lose, my opinion.

Do you see an upset on the horizon? I do see an upset. And I agree with you. I don't know if it'll be in one of those. games, but I got to tell you, everybody's talking about Utah in the playoff, Utah in the playoff. They better beat Oregon. And that's an Oregon team that is good at the line of scrimmage. They've got a first round draft pick at quarterback. Utah better be aware tonight. It's going to be a sloppy game there in Santa Clara. It would not shock me at all, Colin,

if Oregon beats your precious Utah team. I know that's going to sting from your view in the chalet. I understand that. Utah is a team that on big stages. Think about this. On big stages, last year in the PAC 12 championship game, against USC on a Friday night earlier this year. They have not played well in those stages. And so tonight is a big moment for them and Kyle Whittingham. And I think Oregon's got a great chance to win that game. Okay. You know, it's funny about that we were talking about glamour jobs.

The Dallas Cowboys is a glamour job. I'm not sure it's a great job. USC's a glamour job. I'm not sure it's a great job. Before we go any further, they retain Clay Hilton. It's a very political school. There's a lot of power brokers there. USC retains a coach.

The fans are going crazy here in Los Angeles. Is USC truthfully? I don't feel like it's Ohio State, Bama, LSU, Oklahoma. Is it a great job? I think it is. I think you're wrong in that respect. I think that they've fallen on hard times right now, and I don't think it's all the athletic department's fault.

USC is a fantastic job. Just look at the recruiting that you can do in Southern California. One of the reasons that they're not playing great football right now is because they haven't recruited well within their own footprint. but that's absolutely one of the top five, six jobs in America. If I was a college coach, I'd be desperate to try to coach at USC. One thing that you've really got to pay attention to is there access to a pool of money for assistant coaches. I've been told that that was a big reason why a couple of the AD candidates,

not head coaching candidates, but the AD candidates didn't want to come and be the athletic director for USC is because they looked at the pool of money that was going to be allocated for a potential change, and they said, that's not enough. It's one of the reasons why they had to go down the ladder and hire a guy that not many people knew about from Cincinnati and Mike Bones. So something to keep your eye on there. Financially, the school's in a tough position because of the $400 plus million they've had to send out in settlements outside of the athletic department. All of that plays a part in why USC is where they're at right now, but it's certainly a financial thing. Listen, you could have Justin Fields, Wisconsin, Ohio State.

You love Ohio State as a team. Justin Fields, the mobile quarterback who can throw. Do you believe the NFL, this Lamar Jackson thing, this isn't a fad. I believe it's the future, not a fad. You're going to see one of the great ones who's coming out in a year. You were a quarterback. What do you make in the mobile quarterback game now? I think that we do a disservice to the individual talents when we stay,

when we say it's all about a style. I just disagree that it's all about a fad in styles. I think talent equates. And when talent shows up, then that person generally succeeds. Because Lamar Jackson is succeeding in Baltimore does not mean that Trevor Lawrence's value

is going to be diminished because he's more of a quote unquote pocket passer. Now, is there more of an avenue for the mobile quarterback and the athletic quarterback into the NFL? Yes. You could also argue that it's more of a supply and demand Colin, when you're in NFL GM, guess what you have a slew of to recruit, not recruit from, but evaluate from the college game, mobile quarterbacks. There's just more of a supply

based on the lower levels of football, delivering these style of players into the higher ranks. But I don't think it's about a style. I think we do a disservice to Lamar Jackson by saying what makes him specifically successful is his style. I think it's his innate talent and his work ethic in his drive that is making him successful right now for Baltimore. Urban Meyer is a great coach. He now works at Fox, so I hate asking these questions, but his name came up in the Dallas Cowboy job. He's a college guy through and through,

has told me before he doesn't watch the NFL much. Your gut feeling, would he work in the NFL? Well, listen, I think Urban Meyer would work anywhere. When you're a great coach, you're a great coach, period. The Cowboy thing is interesting because of what he said to you. Remember when he said, like, listen, if the Cowboys call, yeah, that's one of the jobs that you jump off the couch and you go, you go take. And he essentially said that.

So my speculation is if it was offered that he would take that. And let's not forget now, the M.O, the blueprint for Jerry Jones to win Super Bowls is to hire a guy like Urban Meyer. Right? I mean, Jimmy Johnson had no NFL experience. Barry Switzer had no NFL experience. He tried the Parcells route. He's tried all these NFL guys. Maybe Jerry Jones says, you know what, here at the end, maybe I'm going to go back.

to the well that I had success with and go with a guy like Urban Meyer. And I certainly believe that if Dallas offered Urban Meyer the job, I believe he would take it. He used to coach at Ohio State. You have their game tomorrow. Is there a hole? All these college teams look great. But every college team has a little weakness. What's the Buckeyes hole?

I don't know if there's a weakness as much as a question, because we haven't seen it come to fruition. I have not seen none of us have. None of us have seen Ryan Day call a play in a one possession game inside a 12 minutes of the fourth quarter. We haven't seen Justin Fields take a snap in that situation. We haven't seen this team have to be one dimensional on offense. So those are things that I don't know if their weaknesses. I just think that they're huge question marks. And if I'm Wisconsin, that's what I'm desperately trying to do is force Ohio State to answer those questions. How does Ryan Day coach in a big game late in the fourth quarter? and how does Justin Fields play in a one possession game late in the fourth quarter? In particular, if you can take the running game away from them, which is very difficult to do because J.K. Dobbins is one of the best in America. Seven Eastern Fox, Lucas Oil Stadium, Big Ten championship game, Ohio State and number eight, Wisconsin. I think it's hard to bury a team twice in one year. Buckeyes beat the Badgers badly. I think it's much closer, although I think Ohio State's talent is just ridiculous.

I'm with Clatt. I think Oregon has a shot to beat Utah, although unlike Clatt, I think it's a beautiful. beautiful state with wonderful people, and I'm hoping Utah wins and gets into the play. I know you hope that Utah wins. By the way, if Oklahoma wins and Utah wins, Oklahoma should go. They've got a better resume. They're going to have better top-end wins. We should be consistent and reward teams that play Power 5 in the non-conference. Oklahoma is the team that should go to the playoff if both of those teams win and Georgia loses. You're breaking up. I couldn't hear that. You're breaking up. I'm sure. I'm sure. You're the best. All right. See you, Clastner.

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