The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/07/2018

Episode Date: December 7, 2018

Colin thinks the most predictable game of the weekend is the Packers blowing out the Falcons because Aaron Rodgers will want to show everyone that their struggles were Mike mcCarthy's fault. He plead...s with LeBron James to not bring in his friend Carmelo Anthony. Plus, The MMQB's Albert Breer explains why Josh McDaniels is more likely to become the next Packers head coach not Jim Harbaugh  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:52 IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor is joining me on a Friday. I think this could be my favorite show of the week today in one hour blazing five, a rebound week. I love my picks this week. How are you, Joy? I'm great. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Good morning to you. Family was gone last night. I partied till 8.15 and went to bed with my cats. It was quite a night. Could you leave me alone? I'd fall asleep. It sounds great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:20 No coasters. Living on the edge. So let me start with this. Blazing 5 in one hour. Even superstars, believe it or not, are human. Rock stars are human. The great artists are human. There are times that games mean more emotionally.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Tom Brady has had a lot of bad Sundays in the NFL. You know when he's never been awful? The Super Bowl. Eight of them against elite teams. Never been awful in that game. He's had bad games. Had a bad game this year against Tennessee. Last year against Miami.
Starting point is 00:03:55 LeBron James, three biggest games this year. It's not a fluke. Facing his old team Miami, the night he was going to break Wilts Chamberlain's record. And the day Kevin Durant came out and talked about him being toxic. Those were his three best games this year. Isn't that ironic? Aaron Rogers is going to play great Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's been a bad couple of weeks for Aaron Rogers. The golden boy, the golden arm, fanned over for a decade. But in the last couple of weeks, his brother called him out and humiliated him on social media. His head coach was fired. A former teammate Jeff Saturday said, Aaron used to roll his eyes at McCarthy and this past Sunday. They were embarrassed at home by awful Arizona. It has been a really bad week for a guy who has mostly been massaged and fondover. What would clean up all of that?
Starting point is 00:04:54 What would clean up all of that? What would make all the bad stuff go away? A brilliant performance this Sunday against it. Atlanta. 32 of 39, couple of touchdowns, no picks, pass a rating 120. And what would we all say by Sunday night? Oh, it was McCarthy. Well, you can't blame Aaron for that. I mean, McCarthy wasn't up to his standards. Don't kid yourself. Aaron Rogers hears everything. He's the Kevin Durant and the NFL. And for the first time in his career, the narrative has turned. He's difficult. He's got an ego. rolling his eyes, not a good team player, not self-aware.
Starting point is 00:05:36 First time we've heard that in a decade. And the week after McCarthy leaves, he is going to be so focused, he is going to be so prepared because the only way to douse this fire is with an incredible performance Sunday. Because when that happens, go to Twitter, go to Instagram, go to talk radio, go to the football shows and we'll all be saying, oh, well, of course Aaron was rolling his eyes. Of course he can be difficult. Of course he is sometimes grumpy.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I will tell you an hour ahead of time, I not only like Green Bay this weekend, I love Green Bay this weekend. I think Rogers will be brilliant. I think they'll score in the 30s, which they have not done a ton of this year. And I think they're going to absolutely roll the Atlanta Falcons. And by Sunday night and Monday morning, the narrative will turn. Hey. Golden guys back. Golden arms back.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Aaron did need a fresh face and a new voice. Packers roll huge on Sunday. Let me shift gears to this. I'm not going to lie. I slept well last night. But woke up, and this was terrifying and put me in a really bad mood. Let me read the headline. Laker rumors.
Starting point is 00:07:12 LeBron James wants Carmelo Anthony to join Los Angeles. Okay, LeBron, let's talk. Just you and me, I know you're watching. Of course you do. It's part of your morning routine. You sleep in. You have your cantaloupe and your toast and your eggs. And then you tell your beautiful wife, Savannah, I got to watch The Herd.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So, LeBron, generally on this show, we are very complex. of you. We are almost never critical. But I want to ask you a question because I respect you so much and you're a very smart guy. LeBron, you and Carmelo are both six-nine. Carmel is a better offensive player for you at 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20 years old. You're both about 2.45 natural weight. But LeBron, I want to ask you a question. What separated you eventually from Carmelo Anthony? What separated you? You're the same size. Both gifted.
Starting point is 00:08:09 In fact, I'd argue Carmelo initially was a more natural shooter and scorer than you. But it wasn't long. Maybe by your third or fourth year, you started to separate from Carmelo. And everybody knew there's a reason Braun went number one. There are three things that separated you from Carmelo Anthony, LeBron. First of all, the gym. You know, that's the thing Carmelo drives by to get something to eat. Maybe Carmelo has a friend named Jim, but you, LeBron, are a workaholic.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You are relentless in the gym. First in, last out. You took what God gave you, and the great ones do this, and took every ounce of focus to be a gym rat. God gave you the skills not to be one and still be great. That's the path Carmelo took. The second thing that separated you from Carmelo, you were, because you're smart, a very early adapter. Back in 2010, 2010, 2011 in Miami,
Starting point is 00:09:09 there was no warrior dynasty. We didn't talk about threes all day. And you were ahead of the league by a couple of years. You started refining your three-point shooting. Year two, year three, year four in Miami, you started jacking up a lot of threes. That was a weakness to your game. So the second thing that separated you from Carmelo,
Starting point is 00:09:30 who, by the way, has refused. though he's a great natural shooter, Carmelo has refused to adapt to the three-point shot. Never changed his game. The third thing that separated you from Carmelo is you've always played well with others. Despite being the greatest basketball talent in the world, you take great pride in it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 In fact, many of the 20-year-olds watching today don't remember this. But 10 years ago, do you know the knock on LeBron? He passes too much. He needs to take over more. Be like MJ and Kobe. That was the knock on LeBron for a long, long time. He doesn't want to close. He makes the right basketball move to help others,
Starting point is 00:10:15 but he needs to close more. That again is the opposite of Carmelo, who has always been the kind of guy that's difficult to play with. So LeBron, we're having this brief discussion this morning. resentment happens in life when what defines your greatness is a weakness of a teammate. Time in the gym, early adapter, and works well with others are not only elements to your game. They have not only defined you, they have completely separated you from somebody who's as skilled or more skilled, same size, same basketball passion.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Don't do it. Don't. For the record, from just a statistical analysis, Chris Broussard said this this morning on Undisputed, and it needs to be repeated. When LeBron goes to a new team, I do think it's realistic to consider, I don't know, it takes a couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:11:24 to figure out how to play with people. If you take out the Lakers, oh and three start this year. LeBron not only had never played with these guys, he didn't know most of them. If you take out the O'N-3 Lakers start, you're on pace to win 58 games. Why in the world do you need Carmelo Anthony? Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. There's two games Monday everybody going to be talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:01 talking about Dallas and Philadelphia. I'll get to that later. It's one of my blazing five picks. And the other game we're going to be talking about is the Rams, the flashy, glissy, L.A. Rams, and the Chicago Bears in Chicago. It's not going to snow. It's not going to be terribly windy.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It's just going to be, you know, it's going to be Chicago in December. It's going to be cold. I live in Los Angeles, right? And I know some of you think, Collins in L.A., he likes all the L.A. And I try not to fall for that. I do think LeBron and the Lakers are, frankly, and the ratings prove it just more interesting. LeBron's left the east.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The conference ratings are down 20% because there's no LeBron in the Eastern Conference. But I'm really not sold on these Rams. I think they've peaked early. I like the Bears this weekend. And I'm going to give you three reasons why I believe we need to settle down on the Rams. I think the Chargers right now are the better team in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I don't think the Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl either. The number one thing about the Rams and I've seen every preseason game, I've seen every game. I've seen every snap. there's three reasons I don't love them. Number one is they're 18th in run defense. And I'll tell you why that's terrible. Because the Rams are generally ahead in games late.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Teams don't even try to run on the Rams late. They're throwing against the Rams. When Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots have like 20th best passer ratings in the NFL, that's because Brady and Manning lead in the fourth quarter in 90% of their games. And the way to catch up is pass. So those stats don't mean anything. For the Rams to be 18th in run defense, and they lead virtually all their games by over a touchdown late, tells you, this is a bad run defense.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I was telling a friend last night, I could see Dallas coming right into Los Angeles, handing the ball off to Zeke 38 times, and walking out of here with an ugly, low-scoring win over the Rams. Rams run defense is a real problem, and the best way to kill a good offense is to play keepaway. milk the clock, run the football. That's what Chicago is going to try to do this weekend. Pound the football. So that's the first thing I don't like about the Rams. The second thing is they have a really weak home field advantage. Vegas considers home field somewhere between three to three and a half points.
Starting point is 00:14:16 A field goal. In New Orleans, Green Bay, when they're good, Seattle, it's close to four. The Rams home field's about one and a half to two. If they play the Cowboys in the playoffs, it'll be 60-40 Cowboy fans. If they played the Bears or of Philadelphia, it would be at best for the Rams of 50-50 split. They don't really have this massive home field advantage. They're still growing with the community. And number three is, and this baby out there, but living in Connecticut for the previous 10 years and living in Los Angeles, it is easier here.
Starting point is 00:14:55 You don't really grind here. There's not as many bad days here. Warm weather teams historically have been underachievers in the postseason. Houston Texans have underachieve. Miami Dolphins, Tampa Bay, San Diego Chargers, Arizona Cardinals, Rams last year. We're awful in the playoffs. Listen, there's no getting past it. Football's hard.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And football practicing in cold weather, driving to it in cold weather, driving to it in cold weather, living in cold weather, it creates a toughness and a metal. I watch the Rams. Sometimes they're kind of soft. Warm weather teams, kind of soft. You know who's never soft? Baltimore's not always great. They're never soft.
Starting point is 00:15:42 New England's not over Philadelphia. Seattle. They're not always great. They're never soft. So I am out on the Rams as a Super Bowl team. I think they're glamorous and they're fun and they're exciting and there are a lot of things. But I think they'll go to Chicago. They'll be a little cold and uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I think the bears on Monday morning are the team. We're going, watch out. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Okay, so here's a story. I thought this was kind of cool. Mike McCarthy Packer coach. Generally, if you get fired, they pack your stuff up, send it to your address. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Mike McCarthy came back to Green Bay and addressed the Green Bay players and staff. They gave him a standing ovation, which is really cool. It's very unusual for this to happen. In fact, I've never heard of it happening. He got a standing ovation, two from Green Bay players. So this proves two things. Number one, this is what we talked about yesterday. Green Bay is nice and Green Bay is family.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Josh McDaniels is snarky, northeast, and an outsider. and Jim Harbaugh is loud, intense, a little bit of a bully and an outsider. Green Bay's nice, their family. This is how they treat people they fire. They fire the coach. They bring him back and give him a standing ovation. They fired their general manager and actually decided, let's give him a cubicle down the hall and demote him.
Starting point is 00:17:10 That's the first thing. That's why I'm not sure this organization is ready to go and get the best candidate, which is the guy that's going to push back on Aaron, Harbaugh and McDaniels. We talked about this yesterday. The second thing I take away from this is, if I'm the New York Jets, I hire Mike McCarthy by this afternoon. Okay. Favre Rogers, he was in the middle of that handoff and handled it brilliantly.
Starting point is 00:17:41 He can handle New York's egos and New York's media. Jay Glazer came on the show yesterday and said, people don't understand. When Fav left and Rogers took over, it was a mess and McCarthy made it work. When Brett Farber was there and Brett went, it went from Brett to Aaron Rogers, Brett made it really bad on Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:18:06 and really bad is really underselling it here. It was really, it was filthy on how bad it was for Aaron Rogers. And Mike, it's just how Brett treated Aaron and how it looked, there was Brett's team. And Mike McCarthy then went and moved on to Aaron Rogers. And even when Brett wanted to come, come back. I was doing interviews on Greta Van Sustra. And Mike was the one who said, I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I'm sticking with Aaron. And I'm building them up. And he built his confidence up. Let me talk for a second about Mike McCarthy. Divorces happen, and I've said that from day one. But Mike McCarthy did not forget football. I'm being told constantly, got to have Sean McVeigh. Yeah, I watched Sean McVey in the playoffs last year. His team was overwhelmed. Matt Nagy.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Matt Nagy. that defines great football. Let me ask you this. What coaches right now are having great years in the NFL? 67-year-old defensive-minded head coach Pete Carroll is having a hell of a year. He's rebooted this franchise. He would be my coach of the year. You know who also is having a great year?
Starting point is 00:19:20 66-year-old defensive head coach Bill Belichick. Who would I name as my newcomer of the year? 57-year-old Frank Reich. Andy Reid's having a great year. He's 60. I know, I know. Sean McVey invented football. You've got to have a new young guru.
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, not really. Not really at all. This league is still dominated. Super Bowl trophies accumulated by older guys. Pete Carroll's having a great year. College football is dominated by 67-year-old Nick Saban. Mid-50s Urban Meyer dominated the Midwest for the last six, seven years. I'm hearing a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You got to go get for Aaron Rogers, that hot new guy down in Oklahoma, Lincoln, Riley. Let's think about that for a second. So let's fire an older, successful coach. And let's bring it, who's one of a lot. lot, by the way, who's having a rare bad year, Mike McCarthy and let's run him out and hire this hot college coach. You know what that sounds like to me? What Philadelphia did with Andy Reid and brought in Chip Kelly. Andy Reid got you to a Super Bowl, five NFC championships, had a rare bad two-year stretch, run him out of town, bring in the hot college guy. How did it work?
Starting point is 00:20:46 And what did Philadelphia go back to doing? Well, Andy Reid now is the number one seed in the AFC, the 60-year-old guy. He ran out of town. Philadelphia is a mess, but Philadelphia if you did win a Super Bowl hiring who? Oh, God, what do you know? One of Andy Reed's disciples. You can tell me that Mike McCarthy didn't know anything about football. You keep convincing yourself that the old guys, no way, man, you need Lincoln Riley. There's got to be a 21-year-old in the Mid-America conference.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Get me the barista at Starbucks. He's cool. Yeah, he's never coached football. He is cool. Sean McVadden done squat in this league. He's fun. Been to the playoffs. once got humiliated at home against finesse Atlanta. Come on. Matt Nagy? Smoking mirrors. Cool. He's
Starting point is 00:21:34 David Copperfield. He makes Trubisky look good. He's a magician. He hasn't proven anything. This league is still controlled by Bill Belichick, college football by Saban. Pete Carroll's had a great year. The two best play designers in football are 55-year-old Sean Payton and 60-year-old Andy Reid. Those are those guys are still wizards. And those guys, coordinators, league and become successful head coaches. So this whole thing that Mike McCarthy forgot football, if I'm the New York Jets, I'm on the phone today. Sam Darnold needs guidance.
Starting point is 00:22:08 This guy, nine of 11 years, made the playoffs. Don't tell me he can't coach. Now, again, I'm not saying he and Aaron hadn't run their course. I get it. No question. I'm not banging on Aaron here. I get it. Good people, two good people, can just hit a ceiling.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Pat Riley always says 10 years in, sometimes you just, people are grading. I get it. But this idea that, you know, Aaron's going to be saved by a hot shot and McCarthy's going to, you know, go out there and need a life preserver to stay above water. I don't buy it for one second. I think Aaron's hard to coach. There's no perfect coach for him. And Mike McCarthy should be employed by an NFL team called the Jets tomorrow morning. What's up, everybody, John Middlecock of the three-and-out podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Brought to you by Colin Cowers Podcast Network. If you like Collins show, you will like mine. I talk a ton of football. Coming up, today's show, that debacle of a Thursday night game. Derek Henry went off. Kyler Murray's Heisman chances. And you know I'm getting ready for Bears, Rams, Sunday night football. Again, the three and out podcast, wherever you find your podcast with me, John Middlecock.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I know the games on our network, Dallas hosting Philadelphia. And listen, I think the two games, I want to watch this weekend are that one and the Bears hosting the Rams Sunday night on NBC. And so I understand networks have to pump stuff up. I get that. But the DAC thing, can I just say to the media and to cowboy fans, let's pump the brakes a little bit. People are going nuts on. The Cowboys are winning despite DAC, not because of DAC.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Here's some numbers right now. He leads the NFL in fumbles for all players. Fumbles lost, he's tied for second, passing touchdowns he's tied for 22nd, and passing yards per game, 27th. Yet even at Fox, this is how we're promoting the game this week. Sunday, the Cowboys host the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And if you think Philly has the best QB in this matchup, then you don't know that. I mean, that's over the top. Okay, you want to know how many 300 yards games, DAC has, Joy? Bagel. You want to know how many three touchdown games, Dak has? Bagel. But yet, we can't contain
Starting point is 00:24:35 ourselves here at Fox. Everyone thought his season was over. But then he made everyone look like total morons. He's decked by popular demand. I mean, is that cheesy? We have excellent Emmy Award winning producers here. The Cowboys didn't score a single point in the second half against
Starting point is 00:24:55 the Saints. He's the most sack quarter back in the league, despite the fact the offensive line is great because Zeeks on fire. Fox, do better. Most quarterbacks can only throw the ball. What losers. This stud can throw and run. He's a deck of all trade. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Enough already, Fox. Remember, here's what's happened during the four-game winning streak. Ezekiel Elliott's had four great games, 187 yards, 201 yards, 143 yards, 135 yards, and combine like 7 TDs. I'm told this one takes a different angle. He's a quarterback so dangerous that every single player coweres in fear when they have to face him. He is. Count Dacula.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Okay, that is a low point for the network. Enough. I'm not even going to talk about this game unless we have a public apology at Fox. Fox Sports would like to apologize for the inferior quality of the preceding promotional announcements. To ensure this does not happen again, we are going, DAC to the drawing board.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I like that one. That is just, we are, this is beneath Fox. It is a good game. But they're winning despite DAC, not because of DAC. One more, Heard? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart Radio app. Search Heard to listen.
Starting point is 00:26:26 live or on demand whenever you'd like. Let's go to Albert Breyer, Senior NFL Reporter at the Monday Morning quarterback via the Coward Global Satellite Network. All right, let's start with this. McCarthy's gone. I keep hearing, you know, they gave him a standing ovation yesterday, so they like him. Joel Philbin's here. Who is the leading candidate?
Starting point is 00:26:48 What are you hearing for that job? The name that I've heard connected to it most over the last few weeks, Colin, is. Josh McDaniels. Now, that would make some sense because they need somebody who can come in there and coach Aaron Rogers. And I know that sounds simple because he's such a great player, but it's actually kind of complicated because how do you challenge a guy like that? How do you come in and make him better on a day-to-day basis? There aren't very many people on the planet who have experience doing that with that sort of player. Josh McDaniels actually does. And you talk to anybody who's coached a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady in the past, they'll tell you the
Starting point is 00:27:23 anxiety that comes with it, the pressure that comes with it. How to give somebody something new on a day-to-day basis who has that volume of accomplishment and experience? And Josh McDaniels is somebody who does have that because he has coached Tom Brady. And so Josh McDaniels is somebody that I would expect the Green Bay Packers to take a very hard look at. And I think that he's going to have some options out there. So it'd be interesting to see if he were to have, you know, the option of a Green Bay and somewhere else how badly he'd want to coach someone like Aaron Rogers. Because challenges that come with it too, outside of just being as prepared, as knowledgeable as McDaniels is. If I was the Jets, I'd hire Mike McCarthy tomorrow. I know if there's all these young hot shot
Starting point is 00:28:03 coaches, but Chip Kelly was a hot shot coach, too. 67-year-old Pete Carroll's having a great year. 56-year-old Frank Reich, 60-year-old Andy Reid, 66-year-old Bill Belichick. I know everybody wants to hire the hot new guy. Where do you think McCarthy lands? I'd love to see him in New York with Sam Darnold for a decade. What do you think? I don't think the Jets are impossible. I think it's sort of open with Mike McCarthy. Now maybe a place like Tampa too where they need to reset things a little bit organizationally.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I'm with you. I think there's some merit to hiring Mike McCarthy. And I use this in my Monday column. I know Mark Murphy, the Packers president, use the analogy during his Monday press conference as well. I don't think this is that different than Andy Reid in 2011 and 2012. No one considered Andy Reid this great offensive.
Starting point is 00:28:51 innovator in 2012 when he was getting fired by the Eagles. It took getting fired, going and resetting somewhere else, adding some things to his offense. And now again, he's seen as one of the most forward-thinking guys in the league. To me, you know, this separation from the Packers could be a good thing for McCarthy if he does what Reid did, which is go back and evaluate things, reset himself a little bit, and add some things to what he's done over the last 13 years. And you're right. I mean, Colin, there could be some team out there that benefits from the way that the Kansas City Chiefs benefited from Andy Reid going through that a few years ago. By the way, you have a lot of good sourcing in New England as well as the league.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I got to ask, Albert, we consider McDaniels to be the heir apparent to Belichick. But, I mean, Nick Saban's going to hit 70 and he is still clicking. Belichick and Sabin are tight. I don't see him as guys that want to golf seven days a week. Are we sure Belichick's leaving here? Josh McDaniels may just bolt because he don't want to sit there forever. I think part of, I think you hit on the right note there, Colin. I mean, I would have told you a year ago based on people that I was talking to that Belichick could kind of see the end.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And it's sort of, you got this sense that, you know, maybe a couple more years. Maybe he gets to an even 20 and walks away after the 2019 season. I'm not getting that sense at all anymore. I mean, you talk to people in that building this year. The tension of last year is gone. I mean, the relationship with Brady isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than it was last year. Yeah. And there are people that I talk to there that think he could go another four or five years easy
Starting point is 00:30:25 based on how energized he's been this year, based on how passionate he is about his job. And here's the other thing. He's a little like Sabin in this way, too. When you have things set up the way that Bill Belichick has them set up in Foxborough, you really don't have to work as hard because part of the operation becomes turnkey. That doesn't mean that he's working less diligently. He's less prepared than he's been in the past. But naturally, when you've been in a place for as long as he's been,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and you have things set up the way you want them, it becomes a little easier to run things, and that would enable you to coach it in an older age. And so I don't get the sense that Belichick's walking out of there tomorrow at all right now. Okay, Harbaugh, according to sources, put his name among NFL openings, Urban Myers, 54, Cleveland, Cincinnati, been a lot of rumors. Harbaugh, Urban Meyer. Buy it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Let's start with Harbaugh. You buy it? I think Harbaugh will eventually end up back in the NFL. I don't think it's this year, though. I think, you know, there was probably that opening a couple years ago at Michigan. I just, I get the sense that he's probably going to stick around Michigan for at least a little while longer. I fit him in the same category as David Shaw at Stanford and Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. Those three guys will all have opportunity whenever they want it.
Starting point is 00:31:39 They all have comfortable situations at their alma maters. They've got good job security at their alma maters. And I think all three of those guys will be able to pick their spot. I think Harbaugh does have scores to settle on the NFL. Yeah. I don't think it's right now. Okay. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Albert Breer, at the Monday morning quarterback. Nice updates all around the league. Thanks, bud. All right, thanks, Colin. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Two comedians I bring on the show, David Spaden, Bill Burr, and he's a football fan. He's a Patriot fan. He's got two things right now.
Starting point is 00:32:16 F is for family, third year on Netflix. That's good money over there. Yes, sir. It's excellent money. Yes, it is. A lot of money. Jesus, what are you trying to do? You're trying to get me some gold digger to go after me?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Here we go. Let's relax it. But if you looked at the hours with animation, it's probably like unloading trucks at a warehouse. Because you do a lot of time with that. Yes. Yes, you do. And then you also on the frontrunner, which starring you and Hugh Jackman, you're a comedian who can act, which is amazing, because I think acting's hard and you act. Are you a good actor?
Starting point is 00:32:46 There's a lot of comedians. Robin Williams won an Oscar. Eddie Murphy? I mean, there's a lot of... Martin Lawrence. It's a lot of good comedian actors. I got like eight lines in a movie, dude. You're acting like I'm doing some Daniel Day Lewis stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:58 My left foot, the piano. Yeah, no, dude. What kind of actor are you? I'll tell you the kind of actor. I am. I play a reporter from the Miami Herald in the frontrunner. Who broke the story? Yes, who broke the story.
Starting point is 00:33:11 On Gary Hart. One of the guys. I was part of the guys. But I still have my boss. an accent. So that's the kind of actor I am. Were you a snarky? Before you start throwing some awards at me. Were you a snarky reporter and a tough
Starting point is 00:33:24 do you remember your line? No, no. I don't remember lines. I just remember we, at one point we chased Hughes' character down an alley and he's annoyed at us. So when he turned around his character was upset and it, and like he was, he turned into Wolverine for half
Starting point is 00:33:40 a second. And it so startled me. I actually dropped my little notebook reporter thing. And every, all these actors at the premiere were going, dude, I love that choice you made to drop the little notebook. I was like, no, that was real. He actually legit scared me. So for the first time in my career, I've never done this,
Starting point is 00:33:56 I believe I should come on and kind of be like a judge and a jury. I got a crazy DA. I got a crazy, you know, defense attorney. I have the jury and people watching. And my job is to be common sense, no BS, don't root for anybody. So you're a Patriot fan. It's a great life, 18 years of just winning. Well, I mean, the last, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's been great. Great. The first, you know, 30-something years of it was a little rough. Steve Grogan years, not great. So what is it like? Let's ask. What is it like to be on an 18-year run? Alabama fan's been on a 10-year run.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You've been on almost double that. What is it like to be a fan of a New England Patriots? How is your life, do you think, different from an Eagle fan, a Titan fan? Oh, yeah, it's just been a ridiculous. I, like, 10 years ago was like already thinking, this isn't going to last forever. Let's just take this in. How much longer? Just all Boston teams, how long can this thing go?
Starting point is 00:34:51 And it just keeps going. Just won another World Series. And so fans in other cities are like, aren't you sick of it? Aren't you getting bored? It's like, no, why would you get bored of that? As many as possible. And I'm just trying to enjoy them,
Starting point is 00:35:04 knowing that I think it's more specifically the Patriots, where it's like Belichick is pushing 70. Brady's like 41, going to be 42. So, I mean, how much longer are they, going to be around. So I'm just, you know, and I remember watching the dolphins, you know, after Dan Marino retired. They're still waiting for their next Marino. It's very rare that you go from a Brett Fav to an Aaron Rogers. Do you like Belichick or Brady more? Oh, good. That's like choosing between your mom or your dad. Hey, well, you got to make a choice. Do I? Why? I, do I like,
Starting point is 00:35:37 no, I think they're equally the best at their position. And what I love about Belichick is, no matter what quarterback you got in there, he would just design an offense around this guy's strengths. You know, if you couldn't throw the ball more than 20 yards, he would come up with some sort of scheme that would give everybody a chance to win. And the fact that he's been able to do it this long with all, you know, free agencies, how you lose, like all the people that we lost this year, we lost a running back, two wide receivers, a cornerback and our left tackle. And this is the deepest into the season that I can remember in recent history where we're still trying to figure out who we are. Exactly. Like that game we lost to the Titans, that. That
Starting point is 00:36:15 That would happen in a September, not in November, so I'm a little concerned about... No, the officials robbed us. They robbed us. For four straight quarters? We got hosed by the officials in that game. I know there's no question. That game was not on us. That was on Goodell and the officials.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh, okay. All right. I don't know if I agree with that. I'm becoming a complete meatball. No, I don't. You're going to go to games and you celebrate, and I don't get to be that. And I kind of feel like at the end of the... No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Because this whole run has happened since I left Boston. I was in New York at the height of the curse of the bay, and I got to see the Red Sox in 2004 beat the Yankees. So that was great. But other than that, I've been out of town. I've just been behind sports enemy lines for like since, I don't know, 95 or 96. So I haven't, didn't live in Boston throughout this whole crazy run.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Why do you think Boston cares more about sports? I mean, there's very few places in the world where the hockey team's big, the baseball team. I can make an argument, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins, and Red Sox fans. You can make a very strong argument. They're all top three passion. You grew up in Boston. Is it the weather?
Starting point is 00:37:26 You're sitting watching TV all the time? No, there are others. Pittsburgh is ridiculous fans, Detroit, for Red Wing fans. There's a lot of, like, when you truly go to a sports town, Philly's got great fans. I mean, they're nuts, but I mean, they passionately follow their team. I think a lot of those teams in the East Coast and everything. I think there's, I think in the winter for seven months, you sit inside and watch TV and in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Somebody told me you didn't even like the Chiefs Rams Offensive Showcase. I hated that. Why? Because it was like watching two people playing like Madden football with real people. Like I like defense. Like last year's Super Bowl was one of the worst games I ever saw. The fact that a defense got a defensive players have a championship ring after that performance on either side. where there was like, what, two punts the whole game?
Starting point is 00:38:17 One. Yeah, okay, so now the people on the Eagles defense can then walk up to Jack Lambert and be like, yeah, man, I was on a Super Bowl defense too. Like, I mean, come on. Right. Yeah, I think what happened was the NFL, they reach maximum density on sports fans that like sports, and now they're trying to get the casual fan, and that's offense. So they've just completely made it almost borderline illegal to cover a receiver past five yards.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yes, they have. Yeah, I mean, Dan Marino would probably throw for $6,500. yards today. Elway and all of those guys. No, it's a different league. Yeah. So that's why I hate it when they're like, I've never seen anything like this. That wrestling announcer? Yeah. I hope you realize what you just saw.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Like freaking out. It's just like, dude, yeah, I realize what I'm seeing here. You're not allowed, like, where are the Ronnie Lutz? Like, where are those guys? Oh, he doesn't exist. L.T. They're not allowed to. So I missed that. I missed the, you know, the doomsday, the steel curtain, the sack exchange, all these great nickname
Starting point is 00:39:12 defense to shut down the The Bears, was it, the 46 defense? I missed those. And one of my favorite games of all time, if not my favorite game, would be when Damarino and the Dolphins on Monday Night Football beat the 85 Bears was one of the great, like, high-powered offense against this unbelievable defense.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And that was what was lacking in that Chiefs Rams game. There was no defense. Yeah, it's kind of like the NHL with those stretch passes while your neck hurts as you go to the game, you're watching. Like, I kind of miss. Fighting. Yes. Pulling.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I love it. I have a theory on this with comedy and sports. All right. Is it if you look at the history of warm weather teams in the NFL, Arizona, San Diego Chargers, L.A. Rams, Houston Texans, Miami Dolphins. They underachieving the playoffs. And I believe comedy is the same way. I think it's easier to be funny and lousy weather. Seinfeld calls it the comedy jet stream.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Seattle, Minneapolis, Boston, New York. Nobody's funny in Phoenix. What are you talking about? David Spade is from Phoenix. Only funny guy ever from Phoenix. Huh? That's the whole... Nice recovery.
Starting point is 00:40:16 The in the whole world. I only have two comics on this show. Bill Byr and Davis Day. Nobody fun in Phoenix. But half your comedians you put on this show are from that state? No. I banned them. Banned all...
Starting point is 00:40:26 You know what you did? Yeah, you know something? Once I saw the whole Baker-Mayfield thing, like, once you get your opinion, you're like crazy with it. You just won't back down. You had a pro athlete sitting here. Right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Got right in his kitchen. Your gym class Jerry over here arguing with the guy like you got drafted, too. It was ridiculous. Come on. And by the way, how great is it to see excited Cleveland Brown fans? It's great. It is great. Well, stop being the Grinch. Just give it up and just say the guy, you know, he's doing the job.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You want me to be a soft, you know, one of those Twitter, tough guys. When guys come and sit on the couch, I go right after him. Don't you respect me for that? No, I don't. Your big, dumb desk hide behind your microphone. I respect you for keeping it real college. Yeah, I kept it a hundred. You can't call somebody out and then have them in front of you.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That's punk. Can't do that. No, but then you can actually just say. admit that you're wrong when the guy's delivering because now he's delivering, he's still trash. Well, yeah, he's not admitting that he's wrong. That's what I'm saying. Guy had three picks last week. The fact that he's still standing, I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:23 he plays on the Browns. Like, one of the worst things you can be is the first quarterback drafted in the NFL. Yeah, back in the day, you were going to the lions, you're going to the Browns, you were going to the Bears, and nobody was going to block, and everyone was going to say you sucked and you were robust and you spent like three years in the NFL on your
Starting point is 00:41:39 back. That's a good point. I like being... Look at that. See that? I like being a lot. a little, I like being the tough guy, the brings a hammer. I kind of like that, be honest. A tough guy with the, uh, microphone. With the keyboard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Gigantic desk. F is for family on Netflix, the frontrunner, starring Hugh Jacksman. That's about Senator Gary Hart in the 88 presidential election. What he got caught and messing around with, uh, something Donna. Donna Rice. And that was the first time, um, mainstream media went into a politician's private life, which I, I didn't realize that. That was what was fascinating.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Then I also remember that scandal lasting like six weeks. And it was a week. It was like he got caught and he tried to turn it around. They started hanging outside his house. Yeah. Ruining his family life a week later, he was like, forget it. And what's amazing about that is like, what is it? Four years later, Bill Clinton runs, who just has a litany of those scandals.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He's just like, what? I banged them all. Still want to be president. And he did it. And I always pictured Carrie Hart sitting there like, you could do that? I don't know you could do that. I was on a dock with a girl. One little picture.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I'm out. Yeah, and that was it. So Vera Farminga, Hugh Jackman. It's an incredible cast. Jason Reitman directed it. It's one of the coolest, just stories, movies, anything that I've been in. And the influence that that had on politics because, you know, because of that movie, it started like this dialogue.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And there's a lot of really qualified people that would make a possibly great presidential candidate that no longer run because they don't want to put their family through it. Yep. Yeah. So then you've got to get those psycho-driven people. Who wackos? Yeah, they care about the Oval Office more than their kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And here we sit. I don't want to go into detail, but I think I know what you're in a many. Bill Burr, F is for Family, the frontrunner. By the way, it was great to be a fan. Yeah. We are going to win this weekend. I love our team. Dolphins always play us tough.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I know. It's going to be. Yeah, you picked the wrong week, actually. I know. I did. I actually think Miami, I think it's a coin flip. I'm hoping for a Kansas City loss at some point because I'm not looking forward to trying to beat them again going into Kansas City. Having said that if we don't reach there, I'm not like a jerk.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Like I would root for Kansas City. Oh, I wouldn't. Why? Because I'm a fan of 1970. I'm a fan of New England, Bill. Couldn't root for anybody. All right. I see how you get the lines to light up.
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