The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/10/2018
Episode Date: December 10, 2018Colin thinks Dak Prescott needs to recognize his own limitations and not ask for too much money from the Cowboys because they cannot win if he does. He thinks the Rams are turning into what most Los ...Angeles teams turn in to and it is not good. Plus, Hall of Famer Michael Irvin comes in studio to discuss why he knew Amari Cooper was just what the Cowboys needed to turn their season around. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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How are you?
I'm great.
What a weekend, huh?
It was a wild weekend.
Between the Rams and the Bears and the Cowboys and the Eagles, it was like seven and a half hours of crazy football.
Here we go in December and January.
So let's deal.
Let's talk Cowboys Eagles.
Let's deal in facts here.
Because football is emotional.
It got the highest rating of any TV game this year.
And, I mean, good Lord, everybody was watching that game.
And the way it ended and the way it started and it was a huge rivalry.
Let's deal in facts with Dak Prescott here.
Let's take the emotion out of it.
Number one, he is the future of the Dallas Cowboys at quarterback.
Source told me this weekend, somebody very close to Jerry Jones told me this weekend.
Jerry loves Dak because he has saved the franchise.
Tony Romo gets hurt.
They go into a tank.
three games. Dak saves the franchise. Zekeel Elliott
Mess, Dax steps in, handles it. Desbriant
exit. Dak stands in, handles it. The National Anthem
controversy. Who was the player standing next to Jerry with his
hand and his heart? Dak Prescott. Jerry
feels this young man is the future of the
franchise. Let's just deal in facts. As a personality,
Dak Prescott's an A-plus.
His intangibles are off the charts.
He's tough.
He always says the right thing.
That controversy for the national anthem did not make him beloved.
A lot of players pushed back on that, and Dak didn't care.
Dak was there for his owner.
He's handled the Zeke mess, the Des mess, the anthem controversy.
This kid's personality, I wish Johnny Mansell would have paid attention to it.
Sometimes I wish Baker Mayfield would pay attention to it.
Perfect personality.
So let's deal in facts.
He is great.
He is off the charts of intangibles.
That's A.
Let's go to the B.
Dak is pretty average.
Accuracy, not great.
Consistency doesn't really have any.
Arm, okay.
Size average.
Pocket awareness, bad.
Fumble problem, hideous.
He's an average quarterback.
Last night, they had the ball for 45 minutes.
almost unheard of in the NFL. That was over twice as long as the Eagles. He was 42 of 54.
They averaged eight yards of play. And they needed overtime at home with their defense?
The Saints had that same box score against Philadelphia, beaten by 40. I mean, that game should
never have been this close. Can you imagine even Carson Wentz that running back and that defense?
So let's deal in facts. Intangibles leadership, personality, DACA,
is an A plus. Talent is a quarterback. He ain't top 15 in this league. So let's get to see.
And this is the most important. Self-awareness. Dack has shown incredible self-awareness.
Because if you're a cowboy fan this morning, you're happy, but you want this puppy to last,
right? You want this puppy to last for 15 years. Football is really fun when you win for 15 years.
Ask Patriot fans. Ask Steeler fans. Ask mostly Packer fans. Ask mostly Packer fans.
It's fun when you win for 15 years.
And you want this puppy to last.
So A, intangible is great.
B, talent average.
Does C, let's deal in facts.
Dak needs a lot of help to win.
He needs a great running back, not a good one.
He needs a great defense.
Not a good one.
He needs a great pass rush.
He needs to be at home a lot.
The games are going to be off and low scoring and close.
Dak needs a lot of help.
And Dak can keep that.
help if he has the self-awareness to say, pay me $21 million a year, not $28.
Because once again, Dax's going to win a division.
Once again, Dax's the Dallas Cowboy quarterback.
If you look at Dax wins, they're right up there with Breeze.
They're right up there with Brady.
They're right up there with Ben.
He's going to be able to get $28 million.
Does Dack, and I believe he does, have the self-awareness to know,
I'm not Russell Wilson, I'm not Andrew Luck.
I need help.
I am winning close games by three points in overtime when I have the ball for 45 minutes.
I have seen lack of self-awareness derail incredible athletes, Carmelo Anthony.
I have seen lack of self-awareness and careers with promise.
Johnny Mansell.
If we're dealing in facts here,
The greatest gift Dak Prescott has is not size, arm, feet intangibles.
It is self-awareness.
Dallas should have blown Philadelphia out of the stadium last night.
They had the ball for over twice as long.
They averaged almost seven yards of play.
They had the significantly better defense.
The best wide receiver, the best running back.
They were at home.
Everything went Dallas's way.
And they needed that tip thing at the end to Amari to capture it.
So I think this thing can last, and I'd feel good if you're a cowboy fan this morning,
but more than anything with Dak.
Does he understand what he needs for this franchise going forward to keep winning this division?
And it's a lot of help around him.
By the way, here's the numbers for Dak Prescott, throwing to Amari and throwing to everybody else.
When he's throwing to Amari, he's a Pro Bowl quarterback.
When he's throwing to everybody else, he's a Sun Bowl quarterback.
You want to keep Amari.
You want to pay Amari.
Because with Amari, it's pretty special.
Let me shift gears to this.
L.A. Rams were an easy team to overhype.
I picked the Bears to beat him yesterday.
I said about a month ago, the Rams are good.
I see a lot of holes in this ship.
I didn't like their run defense.
I don't think they match up with the Saints or the Cowboys, even at home.
They don't have much of a home field advantage.
I think they need the perfect environment to win.
By the way, last night, Matt Nagy was the best coach in the field.
Matt Nagy with average running backs, solid, not spectacular receivers.
And Mitch Tribisky, dominated time of possession, dominated rushing, dominated yards per play.
Matt Nagy was the best coach in the field.
I mean, let's be honest, NBC's Chris Collinsworth doesn't bad mouth anybody.
He loves everybody.
He loves every player, every play, every game, every moment.
For three and a half hours, he told you, in the nicest way possible,
Mitch Trubisky is a one-reed quarterback.
I mean, Collinsworth must have said it ten times, and he's totally true.
It's a college quarterback running a college offense with a tremendous young coach.
And I understand everybody falling in love with the Rams.
I did for a while before I bailed a month ago.
A, they're good.
I mean, they're good.
They're all so glitzy.
So fringe fans like them.
They signed a bunch of free agents.
They got a bunch of stars.
They're kind of a likable team.
I understand liking them.
But you know what I noticed last night?
They're becoming like a lot of L.A. teams.
They're good when they're at home and they're good when they're comfortable.
Remember what the Dodgers looked like in that first game joy at Fenway Park?
It looked like they had no interest being in the eastern time zone.
The Dodgers had all this town.
The minute you put them in Fenway Park, it was a cold, dark, windy night.
They looked absolutely uncomfortable.
In the dugout, at the plate, on the mound, in the field.
The Dodgers wanted no part of being in Boston in October.
And last night, the Rams looked like it was just too cold.
And they were uncomfortable, and they didn't like it.
And by the way, in sunny September and October, their first seven games, they won by 16 points.
in their last five post- Thanksgiving, last six, they've won by two, three, five, lost.
The NFL, to some degree, has caught up to the Rams.
Not completely.
They're still a very good team.
They'll play much better than this at home against teams not nearly as good as the Bears in their defense.
But the Rams now have become a target.
And the NFL coaches are tired of hearing how great Sean McVay is.
The NFL defensive coordinators are tired of hearing about this guru, this.
this Elon Musk, this genius, he's smarter than everybody else.
They're tired of it.
And last night, when the Bears ran that trick play in the end zone, you know what that was?
That was the Chicago Bears saying, no, no, we're going to out clever you too.
We're not only going to out tough you.
We're not only going to handle the weather.
We're not only going to beat you up physically, but we're, we put this play in.
We're going to out smart and clever you too because everybody's tired of here.
about how cool and how smart and how hip Sean McVey is.
Everybody's getting tired of it in this league.
And Matt Nagy, who to me is doing more with that offense with less talent,
put in a trick play.
And they did that for a reason.
We're pretty smart here too.
We're fun here too.
Hey, McVe, you didn't invent football.
We do crazy stuff too.
And I'll say it again.
Matt Nagy is doing way more offensively.
with way less.
He didn't have a Todd Gurley.
He didn't have a Robert Woods.
His left tackle's not as good as the Rams.
Mr. Trubisky's not close to golf in terms of throwing the football.
He's a one-reed quarterback.
So I still think the Rams are good, but that was a signal from the NFL of the Rams.
Bring it down a little.
You didn't invent football.
You're becoming a little L.A.
Ooh, it's chilly outside.
Can we get back on a plane and go back to the palm trees?
I don't know how real the bears are,
but they were really prepared and really sending a message
to McVane the Rams last night.
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Five time pro bowler, a hall of famer, 12 NFL seasons.
He's really one of the iconic wide receivers.
receivers in the history of the NFL.
He's outrageously funny.
And he does something that I do, Michael Irvin.
When I was a kid, until I got into this business, I always bet against my team for good luck.
So then if my team loses, I win $100.
And if they win, I'm happy as hell.
You're in a win-win situation.
So you've been picking against the Cowboys, Michael Irvin, for a month and a half.
And you're feeling great today.
And we've won every game that I picked against them.
And it's amazing how superstitious you are about things like that.
Were you as a player?
Oh, God, yes.
Oh, God, yes.
Whatever suit I wore, my boxers had to match.
Right, right to walk in the locker room last,
and everybody wait until I got undressed to unveil the boxers with the suit and all of those things.
Little things like that, you do no matter what all football players are like that.
You don't mess with success.
You don't mess with it.
Now, Amari Cooper trade.
I want to show you a piece of tape.
We love the trade.
You called the trade.
This is from the NFL network.
Watch this.
I tell you what the Cowboys need to trade for, right?
What?
I tell you, and it's simple, what the Cowboys need to trade for.
And that's wide receiver.
A wide receiver.
The Cowboys wide receiver are 27th in yards right now ranking.
And the passing game is 29th in the NFL.
And Amari Cooper,
would be the perfect guy.
I know a lot of people are down on this guy right now,
but in 15 and 16, he went over a thousand yards,
and last year, 17, he had seven touchdowns,
even though he missed two games.
This man right here is the missing piece
to the Dallas Cowboys truly being a Super Bowl contend.
Okay, you literally look like the world's smartest man.
That's why I love you, Colin.
You let him know that this is not,
I'm not just analyzing because people call you a broadcast.
I'm not a broadcaster.
I'm an analyst.
The TV is broadcasting my
analyzation of what I'm doing.
So I'm an analyst.
But in order to understand the greatness
of my analyzation, you must
see that I am a seer.
I see that thing that is going
to happen before it happened.
The Bible called them seers' prophecy.
Well, I watched that
and I thought, oh, Jerry tipped you off.
Who tipped you off? Nobody tipped me off.
No, I will say,
nobody.
What was
what was it about Amari Cooper?
two to your point.
People were down on, Michael.
I heard his work ethic had gone into the...
What did you see?
First of all, and I say this to people all the time,
as I study NFL wide receivers,
Amari Cooper is great in transition
and getting in and out of routes.
He's great at it.
And I knew Dak Prescott was a young quarterback.
And I was like, wow, he needs...
The greatest thing you can give a young quarterback
is a great transition receiver.
What does that mean?
mean to our audience? That means a guy
if I'm running a 17-yard comeback, 17 back to 15.
When I got a guy that can transition like Amari Cooper
as a quarterback, when I see him, he'll run 15 yards.
He's going to try to break down the last two yards and then come back out of that route.
He's so great at getting in and out of it transitioning.
Gotcha.
I can now throw the ball to an open guy.
When he's going in the route, knowing when he comes out of the
route, he's wide open.
I don't have to wait to see him open.
I can throw it before he
comes open. And now my confidence
rises and I knew, and
he's young. I was like, put him
with Zeke and Dak, and
you can have something for a long time. Now
listen, I
didn't like him out of college. I said he
was a way better T-bo. And then
he won and I had to shut up. And then
I still watch him now. And I say,
and I said this to start the show, his
intangibles are off the charts.
As an armed talent, consistency, as a lot I don't love.
Why is Jerry so loyal?
Because there's a lot of times I watch him.
He doesn't look like Mahom.
He doesn't throw a ball like golf.
He doesn't do a lot what a lot of Andrew Lux do and Russell Wilson's.
What is it about him in Dallas?
You see what you did?
You see what you doing?
Which is amazing to me.
You've given Mahomes and golf a level of greatness because you've seen his arm talent.
or you see what golf does.
Dak Prescott has more wins than all of them.
Dak Prescott came in and did things that none of them has done in his first year,
in his first few years.
But we see certain things and we see these dynamic offenses in Mahomes and golf and everything.
Dak Prescott has everything and he's still a young quarterback.
And there's some things he's got to get better at because he's missed a couple of guys running deep.
His fumble issue?
He got to get better at that.
And he knows that.
But we're measuring
quarterbacks so early now.
If you had said,
he didn't look like Tom Brady in this era.
He didn't look like Peyman.
No, you said golf in Mahomes.
Those guys hadn't been doing anything
for a long time.
It's the last couple of years.
And now we're measuring everything
to those young guys.
But Dak Prescott wins football games
and a great leader.
You can't deny his leadership.
You cannot deny that.
You're most.
important cowboys. You gave our guys a list of the most important quarterbacks. You go
Zeke, Dakamari. I like how you have all the offensive guys at the top. DeMarcus, Jalen,
and Leighton Van der Reisch. That's the order I go in with them. Let me ask you this, though. A lot of
people are falling in love with your linebackers and your pass rush. If I told you of those six
players, you had to choose the offensive guys or defensive guys. Is the future of the
Cowboys defense or offense?
No, no. Let me listen.
In this league, always have the ability to win games, scoring points.
I get so caught when people say, defense wins championships.
No, it doesn't.
Now, if you got a turnover defense, you can win championships.
Bears.
Because points win championships.
If you stop me 95 plays out of 100, but one of those other five plays, I go score,
and your offense can't score, I still win the game.
I still win the game.
You got to know how to score points in this league
and defense gives you a great opportunity
by stopping the other team.
By the way, Michael Irvin joining us Hall of Famer.
The six highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL
none lead their division.
Brady, Breeze, and Ben take pay cuts.
Okay.
Is Dak, does Dak realize
we are better as a team, Michael,
if I make 22, not 29?
More importantly than Dak,
realizing that, Jerry Jones realizes that.
Does he?
Yes, and Jerry will be smart.
I do believe Jerry is going to be smart
and go to DAC prior to
him hitting the open market because
in the business of what quarterbacks,
the statement you just made,
highest paid, not even leading the division.
Because it's not about performance.
It's just about, hey, you're the next guy up.
You get to be the highest paid.
It doesn't matter in any other,
like it does in every other position.
So now you got to go to Dak before he becomes up and give him somewhere,
give him a great number that's good for both sides.
So come before he's up.
Come before he's up.
I'll give you some money early, but you can't gouge us for 27.
Well, we got to work together in this.
We're going to give you, well, I'm going to come early.
I'm going to give you a long enough deal with enough upfront money so you can be happy,
but we're going to get a little bit of a break so we can put some other people around.
So when you look at the Cowboys and you look at the NFC right now,
you beat New Orleans at home.
Yes.
Okay.
Is there a team, as you sit here today, Michael, that you don't think Dallas matches up with?
Is there a team you'd love to see him play in the playoffs and one that worries you?
I was worried about the Saints because they were so explosive.
And I said, there's no way Dallas can match that.
explosiveness.
But that was prior to me seeing the performance of the defense against the
Saints.
Because really, I underestimated that defense.
I said, no way they can keep the things down.
And then I overestimated what the Rams are doing.
He said, no way anybody can stop them.
I saw that yesterday.
I saw what the Cowboys did to the Saints.
I saw what the Bears did to the Rams.
And you say, oh, my God, yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
You can win this year.
but what you have right now, if it all comes together the right way the cowboys have everything they need.
It's very interesting.
So we see the Rams go into cold weather and they crumble.
And everybody loved the Rams for this first seven, eight weeks.
And it's funny, Michael, because I think of Dallas as a warm weather team.
But what's interesting about this Cowboys team, your team had some Aikman.
You were very dynamic.
There was a lot of glitz.
But what I find funny with this cowboy team, they're very blue-collar.
They're very physical.
They're not that dynamic.
I'm telling you, they are physical.
And watching that game, I was there at Thursday night,
I watched when Jaylen Smith came across and hit him, Kamar,
and I promise you, Kamar, when I looked at him, I could tell he was like,
what was that?
Like, they're fast.
They remind me of the defenses we had in the 90s.
You know, a lot of guys up front going out to the quarterback and fast linebackers.
It's hard to get, you will not have.
more speed than the Cowboys
defense have. And that's the key
to that defense right now. Yeah.
So by the way, Michael Irvin,
NFL network analyst,
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That's a great one. So
when you played, what's remarkable,
when you played in the NFL,
as a corner, I could grab you.
Yeah. As a safety, I could tear your head
off. As a linebacker,
I could shadow you and lock your arms.
What would Michael Irvin be like today in the NFL?
Well, now that we've removed courage out of the league,
courage does not say that I did not have fear.
It says I had an ability to overcome my fear.
Jimmy Johnson told me, you were the only cowboy receiver they would send over the middle.
You knew you were going to get smoke.
Jimmy said, Michael was the only guy.
Let's go do it.
Most receivers wouldn't go over the middle in your day.
What would you do today?
Without, they hit, we used to hit in back and separate you from the ball.
Now we have to wait until you catch the ball.
I'm like, you can't touch me until I catch the ball?
Are you joking?
This is not, this is 7-07 for me.
And not only that, they're getting 15 to 20 targets a game.
We will win games completing 22, 20.
three passes total.
You know what I mean?
It's just a total different game.
So does it bother you or do you like it?
Well, it bothered me at first
until my boys became old enough to play.
Then I was like, let's make it safer.
You know what I'm saying?
But before, I wanted other guys to go through
what I went through before you can catch that pass.
I wanted you to feel that pain.
I wanted you to have to catch a ball
and try to be separated from the ball like I did.
But then when my son said,
dad I'm playing football I'm like we need to get this thing safer you know what I'm saying
and so I'm happy it's getting safer so how often do you talk Jerry Jones loves you you've had
great relationships with Troy and all your former cowboys you know Jerry I watch him in the
owner's box he is so happy does he does he's a good man he you know he's been very good to a lot of
people he's a good man Jerry going forward I know a lot of times we think you know
Jerry's a little crazy does Jerry still
make a call in Dallas or is Stephen
running it? If I said to you
today, who makes the final call on
draft day? Who makes the final call on DAC
salary? Listen,
Jerry's always delegated
to Stephen
Jones a long time ago.
When I was working on my contracts, because I was
involved with all of them, he would say, let's
talk to Stephen. So he's
always, he's groomed Stephen.
He's that kind of a father. He helps
us in business. Of course, he's going to prepare
his own sons.
for business. He will give them the call. He will give him the call. Now, he's like the president.
He will have veto power over all things. Did he ever say no to you?
Oh, God, yes.
Jerry said no to you? Well, when we're doing negotiations, he may say no to my number,
but he'll say it in a special way. You know, like, like I'd want to receive of the year,
and I would write down a number and pass it over to him. And he would go into these long
stories. Oh, Michael, you know, back in such a
and such with my dad.
We did this.
We were down in Al Paso.
And Halbyn down in El Paso, you know?
So what I'm telling you is, I pass on that number.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
What is that?
I said, man, are you going to, we're trying to get my money right,
and you giving me these long, drawn-out stories.
He's the only guy that will tell you no and have you laughing,
and he just told you no.
That's how he is.
He's great at it.
He is absolutely great.
Hall of Famer Michael Irvin, who has had a great broadcasting career.
Jason Garrett's safe, right?
He like Jason's his guy?
He is his guy.
And another thing, people got to understand, too, when we start talking coaches,
it's not just about X's and O's on the football field.
It's also about personalities and managing personalities.
You don't hear players coming out of leaving the Dallas Cowboys talking about how much they hate Jason Garrett.
You don't hear that.
And we're getting this everywhere.
Look at what just happened in Green Bay.
You know, look at when Amar and
go to Dallas. There's something
went on in Oakland that he didn't want to play for anymore.
It's not just about, we're no longer
in the Lombardi like years
where coaches have dominion over players.
It's about partnership with players.
How good are you at partnering with these guys
that have got $50 million guarantee
that you cannot cut?
That's important too.
and Dak get along.
He's good at managing players.
He's good at what he does,
but don't discount his ability at managing
players. Yeah, and I don't love the schemes
all the time.
Yeah, I knew you wanted to go somewhere with that.
I knew that. I knew that. I knew
you went to go somewhere with that.
That's why I gave it to you the way I gave it to you.
Trust me. Measure all
things, not just some
things, because we are in the new NFL.
You were a step ahead of me, Michael.
I'm just saying, I'm just putting it out there the right way.
It's great seeing you.
It's good seeing you.
You're always welcome on this show.
I appreciate it, buddy.
And give me back here in a few weeks when them Cowboys are running through the playoffs.
Well, let's slow down a little bit, but I like your enthusiasm.
Michael Irvin, thank you so much.
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The Cowboys have become the NFL's optical illusion.
Here's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing a very limited quarterback.
They're winning close games at home.
They have to win a certain way.
Their offensive line is now injured and depleted.
And if you look at point differential,
and that's a real thing of the division leaders in the NFL,
the Cowboys are not only eight out of eight,
they're half of number seven, Pittsburgh.
I mean, this is a team that is squeaking by five-game winning streak,
two barely over the average Philadelphia Eagles.
They're just, they have got.
to win a certain way.
So that's what I'm seeing.
But again, they're an optical illusion.
Cowboy fans are saying, we have the best running back in football.
We have the hottest number one ride receiver in football.
We have, we're clutch.
We win all these close games.
We have an unbelievable front seven.
We have the best two young linebacking corps in the NFL, which you do.
So you can see both things here.
Glass half full, half empty.
I see limitations.
close wins, all at home, win a certain way, offensive lines amass, and your point
differential, which is a factor.
Generally, the Super Bowl entrance have big point differential numbers like the Saints do
this year, the Bears do this year.
But I will say this.
You can win a Super Bowl the way Dallas is doing it.
Denver did a couple years ago with Peyton Manning, where Peyton at times was a liability.
where you wanted to limit the throws of an old Peyton Manning,
and they had a kicker who made kicks,
and they won a bunch of close games, and they had a great defense.
Now, the difference there, Denver had home field advantage in the playoffs.
Dallas is going to have to pack it up, get in a plane, and play on the road.
So there's a way to do this, and it's been done recently,
but Denver got to play at home as a number one seat, and Dallas is not.
The other thing about Dallas, which is alarming, which is bizarre,
everybody would acknowledge Dallas's defense is really good.
You can't deny that.
I mean, I would say if they had a number one pick, they need a tight end.
They'd probably go back to offense.
Their defense is set.
They got a lot of good players.
But their point differential is zero.
Their turnover differential is zero.
Now, think about that.
Think about how good the Cowboys defense is and how safe they generally throw it.
Their turnover differential is zero.
meaning DAC fumbles a lot,
DAC fumbles a lot,
and with a defense that good,
like the Bears, like the Ravens,
you should have a great turnover differential.
You should be winning the turnover battle
every single week, and Dallas isn't.
The DAC fumble issue is not going away.
They are very limited,
although they do try to throw it over the top.
They're fairly limited because of DAC's accuracy over the top.
So it depends on what you want to see.
with Dallas. Denver won a Super Bowl this way, but Denver's turnover differential was way better
because that was the year that, you know, Peyton, they were basically limiting what he could do,
and Denver at home field through the playoffs. The other thing that I noticed yesterday,
that I think is a real thing. The last, let's shift to the Steelers and the Patriots.
When dynasties end, there's usually two big factors. Number one, your superstars, Tim Duncan, get old.
they just get old.
Shaq, Kobe
break up.
That's the second way.
So the first way dynasties end
are as your superstar gets old.
Brady's getting old.
Ben's getting old.
Shaq gets old.
The other way they end is egos.
You get tired of each other.
Shack and Kobe got tired of each other.
Belotech Brady has a lot of egos, you know.
And I think what we're watching
is the two AFC dynasties,
the Steelers and the Patriots,
last 10 Super Bowls in the
AFC. They've won seven of them.
Okay, they've won.
So these are kind of the royal families, right?
These are the royal families in the AFC.
And I think they're coming to an end.
And I think they may have one left.
Pittsburgh yesterday.
I don't even know exactly what happened.
But from the story, Big Ben was healthy and ready to play
but wasn't playing.
because Mike Tomlin wanted to stay with Josh Dobbs,
who was four for nine with a pick.
And then when Big Ben came back in,
he immediately drove him down for a touchdown.
This franchise is completely, absolutely addicted to drama.
This is one of the two royal families in the AFC.
They can't get out of the way.
Lavian Bell, they get him out of town, right?
He's the problem.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
Big Ben, Tomlin,
I don't know who to blame anymore.
But this is how dynasties end.
Superstars get old.
And you have this general annoyance, irritants of personalities.
Big Ben and Tomlin, I can't even figure them out.
Then you go to New England.
At the end of the first half, not only did Belichick and Brady have a bad off season,
but Brady screwed up the clock, basically took a sack, eliminated a field goal.
That was a mess.
Brady admitted later I forgot the clock.
And then at the end of the game, situationally, they had gronk on the field.
Like, that's just not New England.
Situationally, twice yesterday, they were abysmal.
Brady takes a sack.
Then at the end of the game, what is grong doing on the field?
Well, they're thinking they're going to throw a hail mayor.
And he's tall.
They're 70 yards away.
It's not like at the 50 where you need gronk size.
I'm saying that's why they had them out there.
So I just see the Steelers and the Patriots, these royal families in the end.
AFC. I think it's coming to an end.
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All right. Here we go on a Monday. Where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong.
Where Colin was right? Blazing five rebounds. We had a four in one week. Had a chance to go
five and oh, which I do maybe once every other year. I took the bears to upset the Rams.
I like the Niners over Denver. Dolphins is.
in Green Bay.
We are 39, 29, and 2, so we're getting closer to 59, 60%, which is always our goal.
It was a very good week for us in sports picks.
Where Colin was wrong.
Patrick Mahomes is now completing no-look passes.
Patrick Mahomes is going to win the most valuable player award,
and he's probably going to win it by a landslide.
It's not that I don't like him.
It's that I thought he was a little raw to college.
Andy Reid kept texting me,
watch out, this kid is different.
You're going to see.
But I also like his maturity.
There has been a ton of hype around this young man.
Really mature.
By the way,
had to deal with the Kareem Hunt situation.
Was a total leader?
Very mature.
He's got a lot of those DAC qualities I like.
A lot of those Andrew Luck qualities I like.
There's a lot of humility here.
And do I think Andy Reid deserves a lot of this credit?
Do I love Andy Reid?
Yes.
Patrick Mahomes is now making no-look passes, and he is a transcendent talent.
There's just certain players who can do stuff nobody else can.
I like Carson Wentz.
He looks when throwing.
I mean, Patrick's a special kid.
Where Colin was right?
Well, we love the Amari Cooper deal.
We said Dallas needs a receiver.
It's now a receiver's league.
Let's just do it.
And I've got to be honest, he's been terrific.
And it feels like he's getting better every week.
And Dak is the kind of quarterback.
He's not going to throw guys open.
He's got to throw to guys that are open.
And I always liked Amari Cooper.
He was a great high school player.
He was a number one high school receiver in the country.
Then he was a great college player.
He was a hell of an NFL player in Oakland.
And then he had, you know, kind of a rough year in Oakland.
Well, guess what?
It's toxic there.
Environment matters.
Amari Cooper, three touchdowns, over 200 yards, 10 catches,
has always been an excellent player.
And excellent players are worth number one picks.
where Colin was wrong.
Now, I would not have taken
Sequin Barclay with the number two pick
because I thought the Giants needed a quarterback,
but I got to give this kid respect.
He's been a workhorse.
He's been terrific.
He's probably going to win the rookie of the year.
And you know what?
He's exactly what he was in college.
He was a home run hitter in college
who got you about five and a half yards of carry,
and you could give him the ball 20 times.
And in one Giants game this year,
he took the ball 27 times.
13 touchdowns, nine rushing,
four receiversie.
I thought he was going to be more Reggie Bush.
I thought he was going to do a bunch of this stuff, a bunch of home runs, but you can't
give him the ball 20 times, just too small.
But the NFL right now is more wide open.
There are more teams in the NFL playing what they call nickel and dime packages, meaning
you're getting tackled by small corners now more than ever, not big linebackers.
And Sequin Barkley, I would have taken a quarterback, but you can't deny this if you're a
Giants fan.
He has absolutely added a dynamic that was not available.
in the draft and I like the other running backs.
He's been special.
Where Colin was right?
I said about a month ago, I liked the Rams,
but this team's kind of, this team's got issues.
They're kind of turning L.A. soft.
I think you can run against him.
I think they're good when they're comfortable,
but when it got a little noisy in New Orleans, they folded.
When it got a little noisy last year in Minnesota had folded,
when it got a little cold in Chicago, they folded.
And I thought Matt Nagy's offense,
I think they're doing more in Chicago with less talent in Los Angeles.
and don't get me wrong, I think they're a really good football team.
But I said this about a month ago.
I watch every snap, and they've got holes on this team.
They've got a lot of frontline stars like Indomac and Sue and Akib D'Lebe,
but they don't have a lot of depth.
I think they really miss wide receiver Cooper Cup.
I think they overpaid for wide receiver Brandon Cooks,
who I think is good, but Sean Payton and Billaichick let him go for a reason.
He kind of disappears in big spots.
The Rams are good, they're not great.
We were right on that.
where Colin was wrong.
Listen, Baker and the Browns are 5, 7, and 1 third place.
Let's not go crazy here, okay?
Pittsburgh and Baltimore are the two best teams in their division.
But I was very critical of John Dorsey, the general manager.
I said, I wouldn't take Baker one.
I wouldn't have taken a corner.
I got to tell you, Baker's been productive.
Denzel Ward was inactive yesterday,
but he's had a great rookie year at corner.
And I did love Nick Chubb, the running back.
Their top three Bicks have been active.
Absolutely great.
Now, they took a receiver, Antonio Calloway 4.
He's hot and cold.
But the first three picks, I disagreed strongly with two of their first three picks.
And they've both been super productive players.
Listen, man, if you can bring a kid off out of college and he can be, win you games, that's a good pick.
It may not be my pick, but John Dorsey deserves an apology.
I was wrong.
He did a really good job.
He went and got good players who were winning games.
Where Colin was right?
I don't know if you've, the rest of you bailed on Andrew Luck.
I don't know if you noticed that Andrew Luck pretty much single-handedly ended the Texans' nine-game winning streak.
Folks, Frank Reich and Andrew Luck, and you can give credit to whoever you want, T.Y. Hilton,
Andrew Luck is spectacular.
Just absolutely spectacular.
And Frank Reich has come in with his team, and he's been so smart with him.
Andrew Luck. A lot of quick
dropbacks gets raw to the ball
very quickly.
You know, Andrew's going to throw interceptions because
he takes chances.
But the rest of the world bailed on
this football team and I told you a month ago
I said, keep your
eye on the Colts.
This is an offensive league. They're not
gifted defensively, but they play
their arse off defensively.
And in two games against Houston,
Luck's got 865 yards
and six touchdown.
where Colin was wrong.
I've always felt Harbaugh's going back to the NFL,
and I told you last week I had a source that said he's putting feelers out there,
but Jim Harbaugh squished it immediately and said,
hey, how come that rumor comes up every year during recruiting season?
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm staying at Michigan.
We got big plans here.
And it sounds like Jim Harbaugh's not going anywhere,
and I do love the fact that he came out and he said,
hey, I'm going to put my name on this thing.
So if he does leave, we can hold him to it.
When coaches don't talk and say no comment to this stuff, you know what they're saying,
I want out.
Harbaugh put his name on it.
I'm staying.
I got big plans here.
I'm not going anywhere.
People are trying to use this.
That is putting your name on it.
And I've always felt he's leaving Michigan eventually.
So Harbaugh props to him.
And for the record, college football needs more characters.
I like crazy people.
College football needs crazy people.
And Carball's a little crazy,
so I think he's good for college football.
Where Colin was right?
Oh, when the Sixers put Jimmy Butler with Joel and Bede and Ben Simmons,
I said they're going to be interesting, they're going to be fun,
they're going to be crazy.
But there's a lot of egos here.
And this thing is going to be combustible.
Well, Joel Embed has already come out and said,
I don't like the way I'm being used.
I'm being used as a spacer, a stretch five.
That's why I'm only shooting 29%.
seems like the last couple of games are set up
has me starting on the perimeter
frustrates me my body feels great I'm not playing well
well what do you know they've been together two weeks
and it's already combustible
again I like the move because I think men not boys
win in this league I like the grownups and the veterans
and the Trevor Rees and the Jimmy Butler's I like veteran players
not kids but it is already predictably
combustible in Philadelphia where Colin was right
Well, we predicted, remember this Joy Friday, I said, my lead Friday on the show was, Aaron Rogers.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
He's going to play his best game of the year.
Aaron hears everything.
Aaron has rabbit ears.
Aaron's amazing.
But I said, if Mike McCarthy leaves it Aaron and the Green Bay Packers look great, it's kind of a passive-aggressive message that, see, I told you so, we got the problem out of town here with Mike McCarthy.
Now, I don't think the problem is solely Mike McCarthy.
I'm not saying that.
I think Aaron can be, you know, Aaron's great, but he can be difficult.
But this was, I don't bet a lot on a lot of games.
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