The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/13/2018

Episode Date: December 13, 2018

Colin thinks the media has once again fallen for flashy Patrick Mahomes and despite his talents Colin still prefers boring guys like Andrew Luck. He thinks Kawhi Leonard is odd and is not the leader people think he is. Plus, Greg Cosell of NFL Films talks to Colin about what is wrong with the Steelers offense and why so many young QBs are succeeding in the NFL. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Perhaps the NFL game of the year, the L.A. Chargers. Nobody's team. San Diego doesn't want him. L.A. doesn't appear to be interested against everybody's new favorite team in the league, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Joy Taylor is joining me. How are you, Joy? I'm great.

Good morning. This will be fun tonight. It is. We both love the NFL, and this is one of those games over the last month we've been waiting for. Let's now review Patrick Mahomes' two biggest games this year. New England. Man, he was snazy. Flying all over the plays and making throws all over the place

and had two really bad picks and lost. All right, all right. Let's go to his next big game against the Rams. He had thrown that ball all over the plays. He had making plays. He had three picks, two fumbles, and lost. Two games. Two biggest games.

Seven turnovers. Lost. And I hear nothing. But hype, affection, and love. I know he throws no-look passes. Call me nutty. I like my quarterbacks to look where they throw. In both those games, by the way, against Tom Brady and Gough, he had more yards.

He had more highlights. He had more touchdown passes. He had nobody seem to mention. He was a big part of why they lost. It's seven turnovers. It's interesting that Andrew Luck, who had a GM so bad he was fired and a coach so bad he was fired, and had two pro bowlers and went 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 11 and 5, and got to the AFC championship game where he was overwhelmed in Foxborough.

Of course he was. New England had the better team. And all I heard was, hey, throws too many interceptions. That's the worst team that's ever got into a conference championship, that 11 and 5 Colts team. Patrick Mahomes, who I'm not sure is going to get to the AFC championship, has Andy Reed, who yes, is going to get probably one Super Bowl, voted to the Hall of Fame, an absolutely ridiculously gifted offensive roster.

Eric Berry, by the way, one of the top five athletes in the lead. The Gronk Stopper will be coming back for Kansas City tonight. Why is that? Why is Andrew Luck with no support, a bad GM, a terrible coach get heat despite amazing win-loss records and accomplishments? And Patrick Mahomes, it's crickets. Why? because one guy is a headband and another guy is a neck beard.

One guy is fun and flashy. One guy's got a flip phone. One guy's got a little nightclub. One guy has a book club. One guy's cool. One guy's not. One guy's no look. Andrew Lux's always look.

That's what we keep doing. Fallin for the flashy. I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes isn't really good. He's not Andrew Locke. He's not Andrew Locke. By the way, Andrew Luck entered the league replacing somebody we all loved. Peyton Manning. We didn't want to like him to begin with.

And he went to Stanford. Oh, Stanford. Stanford's where rich kids, Stanford. Replacing Peyton Manning, y'all. Peyton Manning eats Oreos and sub-sambuages and drives a Buick. And Patrick Mahomes replaced the likeable but incredibly boring. Alex Smith, who could never throw for two touchdown passes in a single game. This is what we do.

In the big games versus good teams this year, New England, the Rams, and Baltimore last week, Patrick Mahomes has had eight turnovers. Not a word. Andrew Luck took a team with two pro bowlers, one of them a kicker. bad GM, bad coach running for his life, really no help in the running game or defense to the AFC championship. And we just kept crushing him

because he threw interceptions. Let me just ask you, if Mahomes tonight loses and he shouldn't, Eric Barry is back. And oh, by the way, the Chargers don't have their top two running backs available. So they're going to be completely one-dimensional. Kansas City should win. They're at home. Biggest game in Kansas City in 20 years.

what are we going to say tomorrow on the show? Well, I mean, he is amazing and he didn't look multiple times. And he, let's just try to hold everybody to the same level. Andrew Luck, with far less, to this point, had done far more. Far more. I do like Kansas City in this game because Kansas City comes in at home. Eric Berry, biggest game in a long time, a ton to play. for and the Chargers don't have a home are seemingly playing every game on the road and don't

have one of the great running backs in the NFL available or his backup. Let me move to this story. This is interesting. Everybody today is talking about that team, baby dinosaurs. Oh, my God, Canada rocks, doesn't it? Toronto went to Oakland last night and beat the, you know what, out of the Warriors by 20. That is incredible. And here's what's amazing.

Sergei Baca and Kyle Lowry and Danny Green Lett him and guess what? Who wasn't there? Kauai Leonard wasn't there. And they won by 20? That is so bizarre. Oh, actually, it's not bizarre at all. They're 7 and 1 without Kauai. And they've won their last six games that Kauai didn't play.

And the San Antonio Spurs made the playoffs when Kauai Leonard wasn't around. Quay Leonard's odd, and in sports and in life, you become your personality. He's one of the strangest players ever. His career averages on assists is bizarre. It's two assists a game. Shaq averaged more assists per game. Shaq! Who, when you dumped the ball on him, became a human 7'2-330-pound bulldozer and didn't have teammates.

shack, average more assists than Kauai Leonard. Kauai Leonard doesn't talk, nor does Kauai Leonard pass. And it is not a coincidence that the two greatest communicators in NBA history, Magic Johnson and LeBron James, are in my opinion the two greatest big man passers ever. Probably the two best passers ever. That's not a coincidence. basketball now is about verbal communicating, recruiting, leadership. You ever notice that LeBron James, and you kept telling me three years ago,

Kauai was the next LeBron, he's the opposite of LeBron. He never passes and he never talks. LeBron is incredibly functional. Kauai is bizarrely dysfunctional. Okay, the laugh creeps me out. Let's move on. But I know he plays good. defense, but it's 2018.

Does it really matter? How good a defense can you play when you can't hand check, can't put a body on anybody, and it's a cardio game. Odd guys become odd players. And when the Spurs at Kauai's peak, they did an analytic on him, and he was only making the team 1.2 points better than when he was off the floor and on the bench. Kauai is never going to be LeBron. Kauai doesn't share the same sort of DNA of LeBron.

I mean, just think about this. LeBron is as functional a leader as the league has. He's as functional a communicator as the league has. He's as functional a recruiter as the league has. He's as functional a floor general as the U, NBA has. He has a unique handshake with virtually every star in the league. Kauai is just simply gifted. He is not a lead dog.

Toronto is 7 and 1 without him, 6 and 0 in their last 6. Spurs made the playoffs without him. He is simply gifted. And in every junior high in America and in virtually every high school in America, is a gifted kid. He's a little different. He never dates the cute girl. He's never the quarterback.

He's never the most popular. But he's gifted. He's gifted. He is, he is, but gifted is not what the NBA is just about. What separates LeBron and even great talents

like Kauai is the ability to pass and lead and talk and communicate and recruit. That is the NBA today. The connectivity. Steph Curry recruits, talks, funny, verbal leads.

I talked about Kevin Durant yesterday. That's why LeBron and Steph are the two most important players in this league. LeBron's not the most offensively gifted and Steph's not the most physically gifted. But when I hear Coine Leonard's going to be LeBron. He's the opposite of LeBron. Teams often flourish without him. He'll never recruit. He doesn't communicate.

He doesn't pass. He is simply, and this is a cool thing too, gifted. But gifted doesn't win rings. Magic does. Steph does. LeBron does. D. Wade does. What do they have?

have in common. They talk. They communicate. They recruit. The Raptors beat the NBA champs by 20 on the road without Kauai Leonard. Told you about those baby dinosaurs. And it's not even strange. This has become their pattern and his pattern. Still don't buy the baby dinosaurs. God, what a disaster that would be for the network that has the NBA of Toronto is in the finals. because Canadian viewers don't count on our ratings. So you'd have to pray that everybody in America falls in love of the baby dinosaurs. I think people still watch.

You're really? I mean, it's going to be the baby dinosaurs versus the warriors. You're right. Yeah, that's right. If it's a baby dinosaurs against the warriors, then you got viewers. Or maybe the Lakers. I don't think that's going to happen. It'd be fun, but a man can dream.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I Hard Radio app. It is amazing. There are certain places in America that the standards are ridiculously high. The Yankees and the Red Sox, the standards are, you know, just ridiculously high. You can be successful and it's not good enough. You know, it's like, you know, Real Madrid and soccer, and the Lakers certainly fall into this category. It's ridiculous. I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers have high standards. I mean, they'll keep coaches through bad, bad four and five-year stretches. Dallas Cowboys have standards, but they keep coaches for a lot.

long time. Dave Campo held a job for three years. I think Barry Switzer was there three or four. Lakers are ridiculous. I want you to think about this for a second. The Lakers are 17 and 10. They have won six of seven, seven of ten. They're one game out of first in the Great Western Conference. And I've already seen this headline this year. Scouch report, LeBron's been ignoring Lute Walton's play calls. Yesterday, Stephen Jackson, a guy I love and respect came on the show and shared an opinion of Luke Walton,

which I have heard multiple times from players mostly off the air. Stephen Jackson went on the air with it. It would be hard for me to play on that team and respect Luke Walt. Why? I played against him. What does that mean? I mean, he wasn't, I don't respect him. What?

I mean, he won championships. If I was on Steve Kerr. coach staff. He got hurt and I coached that team. Would I still be, would I be a great coach? He got considered a great coach after that. I don't think he's a coach for that team. I think LeBron's doing all the coaching over there. Okay. Just thinking about this. I want you to think for a second what Luke Walton is dealing with. Because yesterday, Phil Jackson was at the Laker practice facility. And I don't know why Phil Jackson was there. I hope he was there to give Luke Walton support and a pat on the back. I want you to

think of this job. Luke Walton coaches the Lakers. Who's now running them? Kobe's agent. Who's the CEO? Magic Johnson. Who owns the team? Phil Jackson's ex-girlfriend.

Who's on the team? LeBron James. Who's in the same building helping run the other team, Jerry West. Are you kidding me? This is the toughest job in sports. Any league, any sport. Kobe's agents running it.

Magic's the president. Jeannie Bus, Phil's ex, owns it. Jerry West is in the same building. And LeBron's on the team. 17 and 10, won 6 of 7, 7, 7 of 10. A game out of first. This is a team. Luke was hired to coach all the puppies, the babies.

They just threw LeBron at him. They threw magic at him. They threw Kobe's agent at him. They threw Jerry West in the same building. He wasn't hired to do all this. Listen, the Lakers chew up even their legends. Think about this. Pat Riley's a legend.

He had to step down. Jerry West had to leave. Phil Jackson left twice. Kobe threatened to leave. Shack left ugly. That's how it works for their legends. Los Angeles is the only city in America. It's the only city in America that has had an NFL and NBA team for 50 years, parts of it,

and the NBA team is significantly more popular every time they're in the same town as an NFL team. If you have both, there's only one city in America. What about the Warriors? The Niners were much more popular for about a 30-year stretch. This is different. Think about this. Jerry West was the logo of the league. He's not even the Lakers' best shooting.

guard ever. Kobe was. If I said to you, who's the Lakers best center? You'd go, wilt. He's maybe the best player. No, he's not it. Okay, Shaq. No, he's not it either. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is their best center ever. I mean, the pressure on Luke Walton, what he faces, the standards, I mean, can you imagine taking a job? And the job changes midstream. And you take this job and all these Xs and legends and human staffs, statues are now your boss, your boss's boss, your best player, your owner's ex, and working in the same building. This is the toughest job in American sports right now. He's a game out of first.

Stephen Jackson's like, I don't respect him. I have had multiple NBA sources over the last months. It's not going to last. And my response is, this isn't good enough? 90% of you were out there saying LeBron's not going to win 43 games. They're on pace if you take out the 0-13 start to win 60. They're on pace to win 60 games if you take out their 0-1-3 start,

which, you know, when you have a new superstar, takes a few games to get it right. The expectations for this job. I hope Phil Jackson was in town yesterday at the facility just to put his arm around him. This is brutal. Brutal. Be sure to. catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

A story yesterday that John Harbaugh, the coach of the Ravens said, listen, I got to make a decision. I'm staying with Lamar Jackson and I'm benching Joe Flacco. I'm in the interesting business. The Ravens are much more interesting with Lamar Jackson's style, with Lamar Jackson's bringing juice and energy to the franchise. But you know, the real story here is not Lamar Jackson. The real story is, folks, we have a cultural revolution going on in football. All five quarterbacks are working that are rookies. Baker Mayfields had a great month. Lamar Jackson's had a great month.

Josh Rosen just won at Lambo. Sam Darnold's 4 and 6 had a great Sunday and has nothing to work with. Josh Allen beat the Vikings in Minnesota, has rushed for 350 yards in the last three games in NFL record, and may have one of the great arms since Cam broke into this league. All five rookies are playing, and all five rookies have had moments of brilliant. No busts, five for five, that's never happened before.

We've got a revolution going on here. College football coaching has never been as good as NFL coaching. So you've got better NFL coaching, and the coaches now are adapting and adopting college offenses. Of the 11 first round quarterbacks in the last three years, 10 of 11 are having an impact in the league. that is unheard of. It used to be first round quarterbacks

were a coin flip, bust or can play. After the first round, it was about 25% could play. All these guys can play. I mean, I always said with Lamar, I would have drafted him,

probably second, third round, but I didn't think he was close to Reddy. He's winning. Baltimore's better with him? Then they were with Flacco. I didn't think Josh. Allen was close to ready. I said there's a bust here if he plays. There's no bust. Now, he's got no offensive line. They have no receivers. The Jets and the bills have battle

lines and no receivers. And Donald and Josh Allen look good. And think about this too. All five rookies can not only play, but the three rookies, first round quarterback rookies last year, Tribisky, Mahomes, and Watson will all host playoff games this year. That the MVP this year, Patrick Mahomes, is a first year starter. This is unheard of. It just doesn't work this way in the NFL. But between quarterbacks, in my opinion, are better today because of all the seven-on-seven camps that started about 25 years ago, 20 years ago, and this is the first generation of

quarterbacks and kids who were in these seven-on-seven camps. I think that's some of it. I also think very good NFL coaches are not being rigid and stubborn. They're adapting and saying, we're going to use some of these offensive principles in college. But it's a great sign for the league. It is a great sign for the NFL that the bust rate, 10 of 11 of the last first round quarterbacks, are working, are hosting playoff games, are showing great promise. A couple I think can be a star. Wow. What's up, everybody, John Middlecough from the Three and Out podcast, brought to you by Colin Coward's podcast network. If you like Colin's show, you will like mine. I talk all footplay.

Coming up on this week's show, Kurt Cousins, is he good or not? Brady, Mahomes, Amari thriving, Reggie McKenzie fired. There is a lot going on in the NFL world and we talk it all. Again, the three and out podcast, wherever you listen to your podcast with me, John Middlethoff. And with that, we go to Greg Kosel, 30 plus years at NFL films. Speaking of a little bit of a revolution, the Dallas Cowboys at Amari Cooper. And Greg, I like the move. I would have preferred giving away a second rounder for him, not a first rounder.

But I'm not going to lie, his resurgence to the offense has surprised me. Has it surprised you? Can I just say one thing about what you were talking about earlier? Sure. I think one of the things that's helping so many of these quarterbacks, it's not 100%, but it's true in many cases, is the changing nature of NFL passing games. You'll notice that completion percentages are way up. And one reason for that is many more short passes. And what short passes mean is less reading because people always thought years and years ago that quarterbacks coming into the league would struggle to understand and read NFL defenses.

And it would take them time to do that. and they would struggle in the pocket. Now, when you talk about three-step drop or quick five-step drop, that doesn't really require reading in the same way. The reads and throws are defined. So it's much, I don't want to, relatively easier. I don't want to say it's easy because it never is, but it's relatively easier.

So you're seeing much higher completion percentages for almost all quarterback. Yeah, no, it's a very good point. Back to, yeah, but go ahead. Amari Cooper. You know, we've talked about this before, Colin. I think one of the things that with the Dallas Cowboys, and they've been this way for a number of years under Scott Lennahan, is there's been a lot of individual routes, isolation routes,

and by that I mean they ask their receivers to win one-on-one. If you don't have those kinds of receivers, the past game can get a little difficult. And when you combine that with a quarterback in Dak Prescott, who's not consistently accurate, that makes for a tough mix. So now what you have is a receiver in Amari Cooper who can win one-on-one. And very often on shorter routes, things like slants, inbreakers, quick out routes, he wins quickly because he's so good off the line of scrimmage. So that presents the throws for Dak Prescott.

But one thing you can't argue with is how good they've been on third down the last five weeks. I guess they want five in a row. The last five weeks, they're 50% conversion on third down. Wow. And that's outstanding. Yeah, that's a remarkable number. So the Rams, and I've watched every snap this year, I said it about four or five, weeks ago. Whether the league is caught up to McVeigh, Cooper Cups injury, offensive line,

not quite getting the push, Gough's a little less consistent. Rams aren't the same team today as they were five or six weeks ago on offense. What does it mean? What does the film say? Well, I think there's been a couple of things involved. Number one, I think about for the last five or six weeks, I don't think Jared Gough has been as consistently sharp. I think he's missed some throws that in the first five or six weeks he made with his eyes closed. So I I think he's been not quite as sharp. I think what happened is you had the perfect negative storm against Chicago. You had a quarterback who was not particularly sharp.

You had, for whatever reason, McVeigh, not really calling as many runs as he normally does, and you had a defense in the bear's defense that really blurs the lines between man and zone and makes it very difficult for a quarterback. And keep in mind he's still a young quarterback. It makes it very difficult for a quarterback to get clear, defined reads early in the down. and goth at his core Colin at his core is a rhythm player he's not a late in the down quarterback he's not a mover it needs to be presented to him by the design of the task game

and McVeigh's great at that but when that can't happen and the defense takes that away goff will become a little unsettled and play unevenly and that's exactly what happening in Chicago yeah I'm not going to face many defenses as good as Chicago it should also be noted there now here's a team that interests me I think Pete Carroll's done a great job to kind of reboot this offense. The Seahawks are averaging over the last five weeks 30 points a game.

And it feels very much old school. Are they a dangerous team to you offensively? Or is it just this year the catch rules in? They didn't have Doug Baldwin the other night, so they were really choppy. What do you see with their offense? To be honest with you, I think that when you look at what they do offensively, Think about this in today's NFL. They play with a sixth offensive lineman on 25% of their snaps.

Think about that for a minute, Colin. One quarter of their snaps, they have six offensive linemen on the field. In the game against Minnesota Monday night, 38 of their 64 snaps had six offensive lines. Wow. That is old school. That is really old school. Chris Carson had 22 runs. 19 of them had six offensive linemen.

So they are choosing to play this way. to line up, be physical, have the past game clearly work off the run game. Obviously, the past game on Monday night was not very good, but it was really the first time this year it was not very good. Their big pass plays tend to come off play action, even with six offensive linemen on the field. So that's the way they've chosen to play. It's very interesting.

I'd love, and we'll never know exactly why other than what Pete says publicly, but I'd love to know why they've chosen to do that, because that's normally the way you play when you don't feel your quarterback is good enough. So I'm very intrigued as to why they're playing this way. That's an interesting team. Bobby Wagner, by the way, is spearheading a very young group of defensive players. They're playing their butts off. They sure are.

Yeah. So the Saints were on fire. In last couple of weeks, a little bit of a pullback. Anything to be alarmed about if you were a Saints fan? Strong, but I think there are some issues. and I think it starts, quite honestly, with the talent level, because think about their past game. They've got Michael Thomas, very good player,

but he's not a vertical dimension. You've got Kamara, a really dangerous weapon in the past game. Beyond that, there's no one else in their past game that a defense worries about as an individual, helps a defense in defending them. And the second point, it never reached the level that it did a year ago with a year in Kamara. That's right.

Camaras has only one run all season of 20 yards. That's a really interesting number. So, you know, we talk about this all the time. You see Lavian Bell as a home run back, but Lavian Bell wasn't as big a back as James Connors over 20 yards. The perception is, oh, this run game for the Saints, Camara, it's not a big play run game this year. Not this year.

No, so keep in mind that over the last three games, Breeze has only thrown for 200 yards once. They only have six pass plays of 20 or more yards in the last three games. So the offense has become a little bit condensed. And when that happens, it's a burden to have to go 12, 13, 14 plays to score. Now, are they capable of doing that? Yes, they are. But it's harder to do in the NFL.

All right. Baker Mayfield gets his offensive coordinator and his coach fired. They bring in Freddie Kitchens, the offensive coordinator, and clearly over the last month. Now, they haven't played, in many instances, the best defenses, Cincinnati and Atlanta, but Baker's playing with a ton of confidence. He threw the deep ball especially well this weekend. What are they doing schematically or Freddie Kitchens that has given him a real bump in confidence? I mean, he really looks like he feels good about the way he's playing right now.

So you get him in a situation where he can hit that back foot, get the ball out, play fast, and they're doing that really, really well. But I think the trait that shows up every week, and this plays anywhere, Colin, you play quarterback, his accuracy is big time. And you saw that in college. He was a very accurate thrower. That's a defining feature of his play. And he beat tight coverage this past week several times with really good throws. And at the end of the day, if you're a really accurate passer, you're going to be able to play in this league. You know, I remember Troy Aikman telling me years ago that you could do everything right as a quarterback, Colin, but if you can't put the ball

where you want to, you have nothing. Yeah. You know, I said before the draft, and I said it over and over, Joy, you were here listening, I said, he is too accurate not to work in this league. I don't like his off-field nonsense, some of his ego. I wish he was a little bigger and a little more athletic, but his accuracy in college jumped off the chart. Like he threw a, people compared him to Johnny Mansell significantly better arm and better placement than Johnny Man. I didn't think they were even remotely, you know, comparable players. Do I think you're right now. Let me, I want to talk a little about a team that's played Baker twice, the Steelers.

I think they're in trouble here. Now, I don't like all their noise. But right now, Greg, they have no running game. We're going into the coldest part of the year. The Saints running game may not be as good as we perceive. Pittsburgh's got no running game right now. I mean, to me, they can't beat New England this weekend like that.

To get into all of it, but to respond to your point, they've lost three in a row. They've been 75% pass and 25% run. You can't play like that. their pass game is very much individual-based. It relies on the quality of the quarterback and the receivers, and then revolves around the quarterback making second reaction plays, leaving the pocket being improvisational.

Very difficult to build a pass game around that. So there's no rhythm to their offense at all. It becomes an individual playoffense, and sometimes you can make those plays, and sometimes you can't. By the way, in that Raider game, just as an aside, Yeah. Do the Raiders look well coached? Because I do think Gruden knows a lot about offensive football. Is there anything you've watched on the Raiders in that game maybe and said, and the Raiders kind of know what they're doing sometimes?

First of all, I thought Derek Carr played his best game in the year, but I thought that Gruden helped him tremendously with the game plan approach and the play calling. There was a ton of quick game concepts to fine throws. Carr was really precise. Carr's always struggled with his lower body mechanics. And when he's in the pocket too long, that really shows up, you want him to be in a situation where he can hit the back foot and deliver the football. Yeah.

Yeah, because a good throw to the football when the play sets up for him. Yeah. I mean, theoretically, every quarterback should be. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes, seven turnovers against the Patriots Rams combined. If you had Baltimore, it's eight in his three biggest games of the year. People fell in love with a no-look pass. But I think he's become exactly what we thought he would be wildly talented, fun, crazy,

with a great play designer and Andy Reid, but I do worry about a sloppiness, do you? A little bit. I mean, keep in mind that, obviously, he made that fourth down throw last week, and that was a phenomenal throw, but they had 17 points up to that point. I'm anxious to see as he continues to go forward.

You hit it right on the head. I really can't add to that as far as the talent level, but I think that was a concern. I remember speaking to a lot of coaches at the Combine the year he came out, and there were many who were concerned about the way in which he played. They all recognized the talent, but there was a concern about whether he would fit into a structured offense play after play week after week. Obviously, the numbers this year are phenomenal, inarguable, but we'll see over time.

And finally, your big play, this warms my heart. I did it just for you, Colin. He's not, he is the best, since John Elway, he's the best quarterback prospect I'd seen come out of college. You know, injuries aside and coach aside, but it's Andrew Luck, fire away. Yeah, he's pretty good, by the way, and he's having a really good season. Let's start this play. This was a 60-yard completion to T.Y. Hilton. But there's some really cool elements to this play, and it starts with the personnel they had on the field.

They had six offensive linemen on the field. Joe Hague's the sixth, and Hague and Ewert are both going to stay into pass-protect. So what you have now is what we call twins to the other side of the field. And T.Y. Hilton is the receiver to watch. but the defense here, the Texans, they're in cover four, four across coverage. What this does with your alignment is it gets T.Y. Hilton running a deep vertical route against a safety, just what you want. But now what happens here as he runs this vertical route against a safety is to Rand Matthew,

the other safety, because no one's threatening him in quarters, he looks back inside as he should. But Hilton runs a great route. He stems outside, and as soon as he does that, Matthew figures, I'm done. He's not going inside, so I'll look back inside at luck. But now what happens is, Hilton comes back inside on the deep post, and it's complete. It's a great throw, too. But you can really see it from this angle with T.Y. Hilton, how he stems the route outside, the details and nuance of route running. This is critical.

Look at him right here, stem outside. That takes Matthew off him, and now gets your speed. speed receiver running vertically against a safety which every team would want. And by the way, one of the best. And all those extra offensive linemen gives you the appearance that they're going to power run it to the right. They fake it, hold the linebackers, and it's actually, for luck, a very easy throw. Yep, you get, and you get seven-man pass protection, which, again, secures him in the pocket

because you're taking a deep shot because you want to make sure he has time in the pocket and he's not under duress. Great stuff, Greg. Thanks. Nice talking to you. Thanks, Colin. Greg Jennings also will join us today. That just warmed my heart right there. That may have been the greatest play on film ever, ever in the history of the show. You love you some Andrew Lott. Neck beard, flip phone, book club, kind of a nerd. It's like I watch myself like. It's a big gigantic nerd. Except you can't grow a beard. I can't grow anything.

Lord. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeart radio app search her to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like i just saw this story this is the worst idea ever i'm trying to keep a straight face with this brett farv would be intrigued by a packer's coaching offer oh no that's on the onion it's not on the onion it should be on the onion can you imagine if you're at that Aaron rogers waking up that would be his personal hell But let me tell you something, folks. Here's what coaching needs. Discipline, details, film study, adapting and practice.

Brett wasn't good at any of those. The two greatest players of my life who would make the two worst coaches are Charles Barkley and Brett Farve. They are two of the greatest players I've seen in my life. But Farv wasn't disciplined. He wasn't always coachable. He was incredibly stubborn. Schematics were second ad-libbing.

film study was optional and he was liked to practice as long as practice went short or went his way. Charles Barkley similarly, a terrible practice player, not really into the details, sort of screwing off. Defense was optional. Schematics, same thing. Like this is a terrible idea. I disagree. I think it's a marvelous idea. Well, it'd be a complete great story for us. I root for chaos. This is a great idea. Packers do it. would be Owen 16 with Aaron Rogers. They wouldn't win a single game. By the way, Brett Farrv would hate coaching Brett Farrv.

Charles Barkley would hate coaching Charles Barkley. But by the way, Barclay is one of the ten, I've said it for it. It's one of the ten best basketball players I've ever seen. Barkley was unbelievable in his prime. And he's the best basketball broadcaster analyst I've ever seen. He'd be a terrible. And if Charles is watching, I'm sure he's not, you'd be a terrible head coach. And if he ever says he'd be a good head coach, Shaq and Kenny Smith and Nernie Johnson,

and need to stop and say, Chuck, you'd be a terrible head coach. Farve told us to TMZ sports. He said, believe me, it's not going to happen, but how can you not be intrigued by that? This is the best story I've ever heard. This is so good. What are the wise guys where?

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