The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/14/2018

Episode Date: December 14, 2018

After the Chargers beat the Chiefs Colin points out that the win was an example of substance over style between Phillip Rivers and Patrick Mahomes. He defends Andy Reid even after the loss and says that if you think Andy Reid can't coach then you know nothing about football. Plus, former pro bowl LB Derrick Johnson talks with Colin about facing Phillip Rivers and why he isn't surprised at how good his former teammate Patrick Mahomes is. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or stream us live every day on the iHeartredo app by searching herd. This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowherg on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, on a Friday, here we go. This is The Herd, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening, live in Los Angeles. I'm with the Chargers. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio on FS1. Joy Taylor has got the coolest ski sweater available on the moment.

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What a game that was. Got a huge number last night. A massive game. Officiating drove me nuts, but a great game and a great win. So I said yesterday going into the game, like I like Patrick Mahomes and I love Andy Reid. But can we add some context to this thing and slow down on Patrick Mahomes?

He is flash to this. point, some substance, but a lot of flash. And this morning I read the USA Today's sports section, and they compare him to Dan Marino. No, I'm serious. They compare him to Dan Marino. Apparently nobody on that staff saw Dan Marino play. I'm going to go with Dan Marino's way better than Patrick Mahomes, and it's not close.

Patrick Mahomes' first year as a starter is now 0 in his three biggest games. And Philip Rivers with his shot puts. style was the better quarterback late. By the way, Patrick Mahomes got the ball with three and a half minutes left, fourth quarter, lots of weapons at home, officials giving Kansas City some calls late. Three and out. Three and out. That's your game. Could have sealed it. But hey, he did try a left-handed pass, and he's got snazzy hesband, and his arm is Superman. And at the end of the game, you know who the better quarterback was? Philip Rivers. Just like the end of the game, Tom Brady was better. end of the game Jared Goff was better against him.

Remember that? That was Goff's best game. For the record, the best Patrick Mahomes drive in the second half was aided by two awful calls against the Chargers. Now, for the record, Kansas City got hosed on a couple of first half calls, but late, they were all going against the Chargers. The media does this. Philip Rivers, I want you to, the biggest play of that night and one of the biggest of the season, Philip Rivers on a fourth down, Keenan Allen's been hurt. They have no running game, makes the throw of the year, and he did it with his right hand, not his left.

Here it is. Fourth and eight with a minute, 11 left. Rivers throws, passes caught. Benjamin sets up a first down and a conversion on fourth down and eight. 26-yard completion. Watch this route. Kendall Fuller is in coverage, and Philip Rivers just lays this ball perfectly. He knows he's got to get it out.

I don't even know how Benjamin even saw. That ball was in the air halfway to him before Benjamin even got to the top of his route and just lands right in his hands. Throw of the year by Philette Rivers. In one of the biggest games of the year, that's the throw of the year. But he doesn't have a headband and he doesn't throw left-handed. Maybe if we just put a headband on Philette Rivers, let's do that. Let's put a headband here on Philip Rivers.

You know what? I've got to be honest. I'm watching this. I like him more now. I think that headband's the difference. He's more of a bolo tie guy. Folks, I'm going to take Andrew Luck's neck beard and Philip River shot put. And 5 and 11, Drew Brees and Russell Wilson, give me substance. I don't want no look passes.

Give me a break on the headband. Give me a break. Look at the rookie quarterbacks have had the deal with this year. Baker Mayfield's coach and coordinator got fired. Sam Darnel, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen have defensive coaches and terrible offensive lines. And Lamar Jackson starting and his backup, you think his backup would help him? He's rooting against him, Joe Flacko. That's overcoming.

Patrick Mahomes has gotten every break in the world. He gets drafted by a playoff team to a legendary play designer, gets to sit under a really cool veteran Alex Smith and learn for a year. Then he gets the fastest player in the Cheetah. Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelsey, weapons everywhere. They bring overpay for Sammy Watkins in a division with the dysfunctional raiders and the historically kind of dysfunctional chargers. I'm not saying I don't like Patrick Mahomes. I like him a lot.

But USA today compares him to Dan Marino today. The hell? Stop. He's only three in his biggest three games. We do this all the time. The media falls in love with hype. Westbrook, Hardin, Derek, Rock. No, LeBron.

Agassie. No, boring Pete Sampras was way better. Betta O'Rourke. Now, he lost the election. Settled down. I like Patrick Mahomes. I like him a lot. But we're going, slow down. Give it context.

Andrew Luck came into this league with a shipwreck of a roster. No pro bowlers. Replacing a legend. Defensive head coach. a GM that got tossed out, no running game, horrible O-line, couldn't keep teams under 28. And he went 11-5, 11-5, 11-5, 11-5. Patrick Mahomes had it perfectly laid out. The coach, the roster, the weapons, a year to learn, under a veteran, in kind of a dysfunctional division.

I like Patrick Mahomes. But you know what? From now on, whenever I show Philip Rivers, let's just put a headband on him. Because apparently that's what everybody's falling in love with. and the left hand pass. But at the end of that game last night, the shot putter from North Carolina State, who's had his arse kick for 15 years in this league

and has never gotten the credit he deserved, made the throw of the year to his fourth best receiver. How many times do you think they even practice that? That's his fourth best receiver. He didn't have his best running back, Melvin Gordon. He didn't have Keenan Allen by the end of the game. He was on the road with a non-legendary head coach with a young head coach that we're not quite sure. Is he good?

Is he not? What is he? That was guts on an imperfect night when he had struggled early with some bad throws, tip of the cap to the headband now previously unheadbanded. Now headbanded in the herd, Philip Rivers. What a night. Blazing five in 50 minutes? My best blazing five of the year. Seriously.

I may put my entire 401k on all my picks. Let me shift to this, though. Tom Brady is going to face the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend. I just want to remind you this is not a rivalry. Tom Brady is 11 and 2 against the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are extras in Tom Brady's movie called My Trip to Another Super Bowl. They're extras. He's never lost to Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

They've never denied him. anything. In fact, Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets and Rex Ryan beat New England in New England. They were 14 and 2. They have denied Tom Brady more. Mark Sanchez and the Jets than the Pittsburgh Steelers. If this is a rivalry, it's a rivalry between a seal and a shark. I'm sorry, but they occasionally meet. Sometimes the seal escapes, but I don't remember any big wins for the seal against the shark. I don't. We think it's a great rivalry. We've been waiting for it to be a rivalry for 15 years, and it's not a rivalry.

Pittsburgh. They're on, I would say this. New England, again, is on the road to a Super Bowl, and Pittsburgh's their speed bump. And it's a little discomfort. Make sure you got your coffee in their holder, because you could spill some coffee. It may be a little bumpy. You slow down for it. You pay attention for it.

But did you know there is no Wikipedia page for the Steelers Patriots rivalry? We looked it up this morning. There's a Wikipedia page for Ollie and Fraser, Celtics and Lakers, Federer and it all. There's a Wikipedia page for Red Sox Yankees. Do you know there's a Wikipedia page for the Ravens Patriots rivalry? I'm not joking. There is no Wikipedia page. for Tom Brady against the Steelers and the big rivalry,

because it's not a rivalry. Auburn, Alabama's a rivalry. Duke Carolina's a rivalry. I've watched tennis rivalries. This isn't one. And oh, by the way, and I've told Joyce from Pittsburgh, I like watching the Steelers.

They drive me nuts, but I like watching them. Tom Brady yesterday said, I've got to be honest with you. I think I feel better today than I have all year. My body feels great. I mean, in the 14th week of the year, you know, I would say, I feel 100%. I go out to practice. I practice as hard as I can. You know, I feel great.

You know, I'm ready for the next day, and I don't feel any different from day to day. So it's really encouraging. I know what I do works, you know, and it's just such a great advantage for me, you know, as I move into later parts of the season when I know other guys, you know, aren't feeling as great as I am. For our radio audience, I'm going to read these, and for our TV audience, I'm going to put them on the screen. Here's Tom Brady's career against the Steelers, including the playoffs. 11 and 2, 70% completions, 30 touchdowns, four interceptions, and a passer rating of 113. That is not Ollie Frazier. He's not getting hit.

That is not McEnroe Borg. They're not winning sets. You got to win some in order for it to be a lot of. Yeah, some. I mean. name that the Patriots play. Wikipedia does not have a page for the Steelers Patriots rivalry, at least on the Google we use here at Fox.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. So Andy Reid last night, it's getting blown up on social media, which is a fun house mirror. Whatever the Twitter says, the opposite is true, of course. and they're like Andy Reid's a bum, they lost the game, they blew a 14-point leap. Did you watch the Dolphins Patriots on Sunday? Did you watch how bad the Patriots were situationally? You've seen Mike Tomlin make gaffs, Pete Carroll and Super Bowls.

They can't coach either. Folks. It was ironic last night. It was very unique. We had the one coach in the NFL with an incredible resume that gets the most heat because he can't win the big one, against the one quarterback in the league that's a Hall of Fame. he will be, he should be, with a great resume, but many people will deny him that because he can't win the big one. It was a classic matchup of Andy Reed, to me a Hall of Fame coach and Philip

Rivers, a hall of fame player. Let me ask you something. Andy Reed, a Super Bowl appearance, five NFC championship appearances, resurrected Kansas City, top NFL play designer. And by the way, his disciples, Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl and Matt Nagy will win coach of the year. You don't think he can coach. Are you better at your job? job than him. You don't think he can coach. You're dumb and I can't help you. Did you watch Phillip Rivers play last night? You don't think he's great? Pre-snap, fourth down, two-point conversion, under pressure, got helmet-to-helmet hit late in the game, would knock most of us into Mars. He got up, argued with the ref, came back and played his best football. And you don't

think he can, you don't think he's great. Folks, Andy reads a better coach than Brian Billick. and Mike Ditka and Barry Switzer and Gary Kubiak and John Gruden and Doug Peterson. And they all have Super Bowls. And Philip Rivers is better than Eli Manning and Nick Foles and Brad Johnson and even our friend Trent Dilfer would admit he is. And they have Super Bowls. You do get, you can't do it on an island in life. You can be the best car salesman in the world.

But if you have crappy cars, I'm an average car salesman. I'll beat you if I'm selling the BMW. You get how the game works, right? Like in Hollywood, they celebrate nominations. Like nobody needed Leonardo DiCaprio to win an Oscar to go, God, that guy's good. In fact, Revenant's not even my favorite Leonardo DiCaprio movie. I like Wauville Wall Street.

They got a lot of them I like. But in sports, if you don't win the game, you're no good. If Andy Reed and Philip Rivers were attorneys, we're doctors, we're teachers, we're actors, we're landscapers, Were anything else, you'd be like, God, they're great employees. They win 70% of their cases in the courtroom. Well, they didn't win the OJ trial, so they're no good. That's not really how we look at law and education and everything.

But sports is different. I get it. But this argument that Andy Reed and Philip Rivers aren't great, they're fantastic. They're not even great. They're fantastic. But because of circumstances. It just so happens that, you know, Andy Reid when he had the Eagles, there were a lot better quarterbacks he was facing like Brett Farv.

And it should be noted that in the AFC, Tom Brady is still there and Big Ben and Andrew Luck. And now we got Deshawn Watson's really good and Philip Rivers and a bunch of great coaches. And this is called life. Just because you're the second best realtor in Los Angeles doesn't mean you're not a world-class realtor. Just because you're the third biggest real estate developer. in Dallas doesn't mean you're not a world-class real estate developer.

We were watching two all-time greats last night, whether people realize it or not. Andy Reed and Philip Rivers. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. What I'm going to say may sound counterintuitive, but it is, of course, true. And anybody that's older than like 23 years old knows this. You will learn a lot more about yourself in life

on the bad days. than you will, the good ones. And that's just the way life is. You're going to have a lot of good days in your life and very few bad ones. But those 12 to 15 bad ones, you'll learn who you are. And in sports, we often think that a win solves everything, and a loss is nothing but trouble. But you learn a lot about your team in losses and how you handle it,

how you react to an action. The Lakers lost last night. And I would argue it is easily, easily their best night of the year. James Harden scored 50. He had one of those triple doubles. Yippie. I learned nothing about James Hardin last night. He's a great player.

He'll be a Hall of Famer. He can score one of those nights where he spent a lot of it at the free throw line. He's a great free throw shooter. I learned nothing about James Harden. That game disappears into the NBA ether in 15 minutes. but the Lakers found their number two. And that is what they spent the last two, three months trying to figure out. LeBron's the one.

Who do we keep? Who do we trade? They figured it out last night. Kyle Kuzma's last 10 games is officially the number two player. 22 a game, 50% from the floor, seven rebounds, plus minus is good, 8 20-point games. And they discovered this because Brandon Ingram's been out so he doesn't have to share time with him. Lonzo Ball, too hot and cold, can't be a two. Brandon Ingram, often injured, too frail, no dog or alpha, cannot be a number two.

And in the last four without Ingram, Kyle Kuzma has been fantastic. Last night, here's a look, was maybe one of his best NBA games. Kuzma on the trial. What I'm talking about. I know the league loves three is this okay. But when they take away the three, why not dunk on somebody? Great play by Kuzma. Folks, two things with Kuzma.

Number one is he's what they thought Brandon Ingram would be. Long, athletic, and can shoot. Except he shoots better. And here's the second thing about him. He is what most young NBA players aren't. a dog. They grow up in AAU. They're all friends and buddies. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's an alpha. He's a dog. He's aggressive. He doesn't want to be friends with everybody. They found him. This was a huge night for the Lakers. They now realize Magic Johnson and Rob Polenka and Luke Walton. You can deal Brandon now.

You can deal, Alonzo. LeBronger 1, Kuzma's your 2. Now, he will not be a 2, next year. When they land at Anthony Davis or whoever they land, he will move to a three. But if Kyle Kuzma's your three, and if Ingram moves, he's a 20-point-a-game guy, you can win a title. LeBron, another great player, Kuzma's your three. But in life and in sports, don't think winning solves everything and don't think losing ends everything. That game showed me, told me, proved nothing about James Harden. We all knew he was great. But what this four-game stretch,

what these games without Ingram have proved, and last night was the exclamation point, they've got a keeper. This is the guy you absolutely don't move. I said this a week ago. The Lakers are LeBron and 12 pending transactions. They are now LeBron and Coosma and 11 pending transactions.

What's up, everybody, John Middlecock from the Three and Out podcast, brought to you by Colin Coward's podcast network. If you like Colin's show, you will like mine. I talk all for you. Coming up on this week's show, Kurt Cousins, is he good or not, Brady, Mahomes, Amari thriving, Reggie McKenzie fired. There is a lot going on in the NFL world and we talk it all. Again, three and out podcast, wherever you listen to your podcast with me, John Middlecalf. Here's what, I think we're pretty good at this. I don't think a lot of fans are good at this.

Fans short for Fanatic. Fanatic is emotional. We don't add context to sports. Some players have better supporting casts. Some players don't. This weekend, the Cowboys will face Indy. Dallas has a great roster with an average quarterback DAC. The Colts have a rebuilding roster that's average with an incredible quarterback.

in Andrew Luck. Dak will face very little pressure this weekend and will have a world-class running back. He'll be comfortable for most of it. Andrew Luck has a spotty running game and will be under siege for three and a half hours. If you switch rosters and gave Andrew Luck Zeke in this defense,

Lord, Lordy, it would be a blowout. The Colts have better tight end than the Cowboys, and that is it. And I'm not joking. that is it. I love where the Colts are going, but they need another seven or eight players out of a draft. They have cap space,

and they need to go get four or five more players. They need a pass rusher. Colts don't have it. They need a number two and three receiver. Colts don't have it. They need a pop running back. They need another corner or three. Both these quarterbacks,

Dack and Luck, have had their teams trade away a first round pick. Dack got the great Amari Cooper, Andrew Luck got Trent Richardson, who was a bust. Let's add context to this game. One quarterback has a loaded roster and is never asked to lead it and pull it. One quarterback has a somewhat rebuilding roster and is asked to carry it. Dak Prescott this weekend is driving a Lamborghini. Andrew Luck's driving a Camry, which is a nice car,

but if you had your option, it wouldn't be perhaps to many people number one. Dack has an elite left tackle, a Hall of Famer, an elite running back, an elite wide receiver. Two elite linebackers, an elite edge rusher, maybe the second, third best corner or first best corner in the NFL. They're all elite on the market. There would be bidding wars for them. The Colts have a really nice wide receiver who drops the ball too much, an excellent tight end in Eric Ebron, who appeared to be a bust in Detroit, a tremendously good offensive guard rookie and offensive defensive linebacker. Yes, they're very good players.

They're babies. And I'm going to pick the Camry this weekend. Fan is short for Fanatic. We are not good in adding context. But just know, DAC is driving a Lamborghini to this game, and Andrew Luck's driving a Camry. And a Camry is a fine car. I drive to work every morning.

I see Camry's everywhere. all never even in LA never why because very rarely can somebody have a Lamborghini afford it and most people most families can afford a Camry but just watch this game with some context one of these quarterbacks has less to work with and is going to have less time to throw one of these quarterbacks has a world-class running back unbelievable left tackle better field position defense and we'll have more time to throw and more support. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.

Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. I want to bring on via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Derek Johnson, decade and half in the NFL is going to be a hall of famer, multiple pro bowlers, pro bowl's chief's all-time leading tackler, played against Philip Rivers multiple times. Andy Reid offered him a job in Kansas City. He turned it down, played with the Raiders until week six this year they cut him. So first of all, Derek, I want to ask you about Philip Rivers because you faced him a lot

and you had success against him, but I'm watching him last night and he throws it weird. He's a trash talker. He's a different dude. What was he like uniquely to face? What did he offer that others didn't? You know what? I love going against Phillip Rivers. And we go back and forth since I'm the middle of the defense, kind of like the quarter.

of the quarterback of the defense, as far as eye control and trying to trick each other, as far as jumping, jumping his eyes, as far as different routes that he, that he possesses out there with his great offense. Man, you know what? Over the years, he's been so good, man. He's been so consistent. And early, my first half of my career, he beat me a lot. He beat me a lot, I have to say.

But the second half of my career, you know what? I think I'm about even with him, especially when Andy Reid came aboard. Let's talk about Patrick Mahomes, who is obviously very gifted. He does the left-handed throw and the no-look stuff. Owen three in his biggest games, do you worry about this, that he's flashy? And flashy's fine, but if you look at the history of Derek of this league, Tom Brady's not flashy, Manning's not flashy, Bree's in flashy. Do you worry that Mahomes sometimes is a little bit of a hot dog,

a little bit of a flashy player? you know what um to give you got to give credit you got to give credit to patma homes i mean you kind of got to put him in his own category right now he's a guy that's he's throwing he's throwing some balls that nobody's ever seen before and he is flashy uh but that's his game and uh sometimes you it's okay to hold your breath at times when he rolls out because most of the time he's going to make that flashy throw or throw across his body or make that great throw down the field to tyreek hill but He's a guy that last year, he was our scout team quarterback, and he would mess up the defense every time by looking off, throwing a ball this way.

And I just kind of thought he was just, you know, hot dogging, just kind of playing around. But this is what he does. I mean, he's really good at what he does. And I wouldn't slow it down at all. I would keep him right where he's at and just go with that. Kansas City seems like they're always good, but struggles to win the big one. Andy Reed, by the way, who I think is one of the great coaches. Unbelievable resume has struggled to win the game.

Do Chiefs players sort of feel at hanging over them? Do you kind of feel in Kansas City? We got it. We got it. Like the Red Sox before they finally beat the Yankees. Is there a feel in Kansas City of we got to break through this wall? You know what? There's a little bit of pressure when it comes to that

for us traditionally over the years, not being able to win that playoff game. But I tell you what, man, I just think things are, things are coming together for Kansas City. I mean, last year, I go back to last year and just, you know, being up 21 to 3 against Tennessee and in the second round of playoffs and to give that game up like we did. But I tell you what, each year, they're getting, Kansas City is getting better and better. And what better coach do you want, you know, driving the bus than Andy Reid? So I think they'll get over that. This is the year that Kansas City would probably go to the Super Bowl

and Pat Mahomes will probably win MVP. So this is a lot of big things going on. Yeah, for the record, Andy Reid offered you a coaching job. And you turned it down because Annie Reid has a history. His disciples are successful. Any reason you turn it down? You know what? I want to further my career in football.

I still think I have some things left to do on the football field. didn't quite work out with the Raiders and John Gruden, and I'm wishing him good luck. I'm still working out, by the way, so hopefully this month I can get on a team and a playoff team. It's a playoff team to help somebody. Hopefully it's chiefs, that'll be good.

But at the same time, I'm going to turn down that coaching job right now, and I'll further that a little bit later on. But that just lets you know what Andy Reid thinks about me and my mental aspect of the game. And Andy Reid's best

best head coach I've ever been a part of. And you always have had a great reputation as a learned player, a coachable player. You're in Oakland, briefly with John Gruden. They let go at Khalil Mack, let go overmari Cooper. I've been very critical of John Gruden, although I still think he's a pretty cagey offensive guy. Is it fair for me to say the locker room, the whole thing's felt a little toxic? They just fired Reggie McKenzie.

Was it the strangest locker room you'd ever been in? you know what strangely it wasn't strange it was weird it was one of those things where a lot of stuff was going on media wise john gruden did a great job and not letting that spill over into the locker room or spill over into his speech or his talking to the player so but at the same time a lot of things going on as far as of course different talks were going on with not signing mac back and different guys when you when you lose it's hard it's a hard deal so when you lose the way the radio was losing and when I was there, you kind of got to retract and go back to that rebuilding mode. So that's why they started cutting some older players and kind of put him more young players

in. But I tell you what, I like John Grude. He's a guy that's, he's tough. He's greedy. He reminds me of a defensive guy, but he's an offensive-minded coach that eventually something will happen for him. But right now, he, you know, he's got a little work to do. What if the Chiefs rival, the Patriots, said, come play with us in the playoffs. run. Would you become a patriot? You know what? Yes, I would. I'll be, look, I'm already stretching now, getting ready, you know what I'm saying?

You know, that's, you know, that's one of them things, man, you know, my mental aspect for the game is, this game is a passing league. So when it comes to that, you've got to have a quarterback type of person on the field as a linebacker like myself. And, man, it's really, it's really a mental game out there.

And I know a lot. And, and I still can run. So I just want to put that to use right now before the next stage of my career. Well, Derek, you were a great college player. Go Horn's amazing NFL career. You got a little left, you believe, and I think you'd be a great addition. You're a credit to the game. You'll be a Hall of Famer, Chiefs All-Time leading tackler and multiple Pro Bowls. Good talking to you, buddy.

Thanks. Thank you. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hen Radio app. Jason McIntyre and after us Jason Whitlock just crushing Andy Reed. It's almost like you guys had money on or something. I'm not crushing Andy Reid.

I mean, he's just not a good coach. We know that. Come on. He's a great regular season coach. What is that mean? You can have. He dominant when it doesn't matter in September and October and November. Oh yeah, it doesn't, last night's game didn't matter. In the grand scheme of things, do you now trust the chiefs in the

postseason? Do I trust the Chargers? Do I trust to Texans? I've got the team for you. Baltimore, Ray. I'm telling you. Do I trust the Cowboys? I mean, outside of the Patriots, who the hell do you trust in football? I mean, I mean, guys, Aaron Rogers can't win a road game.

That's a good point. I mean, no, I mean, when you talk about the word trust, who do I trust? I trust the Bears defense in January? No, no. I trust the Bears defense. I don't trust Trubesky. I trust Drew Brees at home. I do, yes.

So I trust New England and Fox. Sam Darnold? I had to get into. Yeah, do you trust New England on the road? No. No, no, no. I mean, everything's situational. Who do I really trust? I trust New Orleans at home and Brady at home.

Outside of that, I don't trust Houston. I don't trust the Chargers. Most of these teams, I don't have a Pittsburgh. They have no running game. Oh, my gosh. We're going to hit on some of these here on headlines. We call it Monday's headlines today. What will the newspapers in America say?

Patrick Mahomes took a step back in the MVP race. Monday. Who will be Jason McIntyre? the quarterback being talked about. Well, the door is open, right, for the MVP award. The home did not look great. All he did it was a first down late. I think Monday's headline will be Russell Wilson, the forgotten MVP.

Colin, right now, Russell Wilson is playing lights out, having the best year of his career, career low in interceptions, highest career passer rating, and he's not doing it on the ground, which is interesting. No rushing touchdowns for Russell Wilson. Look at these numbers, and nobody's talking about it. Remember, when the Legion of Boom departed, me and a lot of other people said the dynasty's over. They're done. This team is looking scary heading into the playoffs.

You know Jerry Joan wants no part of Seattle, Dallas in the postseason. This Seattle team already beat Dallas once. I think Russell Wilson's sneaky MVP candidate. I like it. Packers at Bears, Green Bay trying to keep playoff hopes alive. Monday's headlines today? Well, I got good news for Aaron Rogers. Great news for Aaron Rogers because Monday's headline will be.

Rogers gets eight months to relax. It's over. They're done this weekend when they lose to the Bears. And Aaron Rogers can tune out you and everybody else in America. Greg Jennings. Boy, Greg Jennings is bringing the heat on him, huh? And I think Aaron Rogers is just going to go into relax mode, hang out with Danica Patrick and get away from basically what has been an awful two-year run for the Packers.

You know, this is the first time in 20. 27 years they've had back-to-back losing seasons. If they lose this weekend, 27 years. This is amazing. Brett Farve had an amazing run. Maybe we don't give him enough credit. I mean, and Aaron Rogers has gotten too much credit. I mean, I've compared Aaron Rogers to LeBron.

Like, I love Aaron Rogers as a player. But what a disappointing run this season. I know they have six defensive players on IR. But, Colin, I think it ends this weekend with a thud. I mean, we've talked about this. Why would you want to go coach a 35-year-old guy set in his ways, whose ornery with teammates.

I just don't think it's a great job right now. No, I've said that. It is like USC football here in L.A. I don't think it's nearly as good as five or six other jobs because it's very political. You've got all sorts of people you have to appeal to. The fans only care if you win. The Packers job, I agree, is not as great as you would think.

Although I will say historically, they treat you like gold on the end. streets after you. Except when they fire you mid-season the way they did Mike McCarthy. But, you know, that's neither here nor that. All right, Cowboys put a five-game winning streak in the line against the Colts. Monday's headlines today. Hottest team in the league, five straight wins.

Monday's headline will be DAC to Earth. I think the Cowboys plummet back this weekend. Don't laugh too hard. I just, Cowboys are overvalued. You know the advanced analytics guys. They rank the Cowboys as 17th best team in the league. was reading. The Colts are 10th. The Colts are a better team. They're favored this weekend. The public is all over Dallas. Have you noticed Zach Martin yet to practice this week? They're all

pro-guard. Ezekiel Elliott. He's got that stinger. They're 99% into the playoffs. Now they've got to go out of conference on the road. I think this is a letdown spot for the Cowboys. I totally agree. I like your guy, Andrew Luck. Yeah. And I will say this is that the Colts don't have any star defensive players outside of rookie Darius Leonard. Kenny Moore is a good corner. They really play on a string. They play very, very disciplined football. And Frank Wright

knows the Cowboys having been in Philadelphia. So he has lined up with this team. Let me add this. A lot of people defending Dak Prescott. He had a 400-yard game, game-winning touchdown. We saw that game. He was not very good for three-quarters. He's the reason. It was close.

No, Gouley, I followed you on Twitter that night. DAC was awful for three quarters. He was bad. The fumbles, the awareness, the interceptions. I'm telling you, everybody wants to pay him franchise quarterback money Monday. When they say Andrew Luck carve up this Cowboys defense, we're going to see folks talking about, well, maybe Dak's not the guy. I don't think he is.

That's just me. Dak to Earth. All right, Steelers face the Patriots, Monday's headline today. So Mike Tomlin, feels like he's been on the hot seat for a couple years now, right? And I think fairly on the hot seat. They're not a buttoned up team. team way too emotional and they play down to their competition at an alarming league leading rate.

For the record, their special teams this year are the most penalized special teams in the league, so they're not buttoned up even on special teams. Undisciplined and the headline Monday will be Mike Tomlin updates his LinkedIn profile. I know this is the biggest laugh. This is a funny segment and everything, but in all seriousness, Mike Tomlin, I mean, I think he's lost that team. I feel like there's so one-dimensional. Big Ben taking some pot shots at Antonio Brown, the undisciplined with the penalties.

I mean, we did call the Raiders lost last week in this spot. Yeah, let's give him credit. And you said for the same reason, it would be a game in which they played down to the Raiders looking forward to the Patriots. Joy made a good point earlier about the Patriots on the road. You can't trust him. But I'm going to give you one stat. The Patriots have Rob Gronkowski had a good game last week.

The Steelers are 31st in the league defending tight ends. Gronk killed them last year in the big game, over 160 yards receiving. I think he has a big game. I like the Patriots to finally win on the road. And Mike Tomlin update that LinkedIn profile. You know, what's interesting is that Brady is 11 and 2 against the Steelers. We were saying this earlier. It's not really.

There is not a Wikipedia page. There isn't for the Steelers Patriots rivalry. There is for the Steelers Ravens. So it's the... Oh, why? Because it's a one-sided. Well, yeah. I mean, the Ravens have gone into Foxborough. And by the way, they've not only won years ago, the Ravens receiver dropped it in the end zone.

I forget his name. That's right, yes. He played at Lee Evans played at Wisconsin, or they would have beaten the Patriots again in Foxboro. So Baltimore was, oh. As somebody who lived in New England, my friends who are Patriot fans hated playing Baltimore. Yeah. They hated it. I'm telling you could put a couple shekels on the Ravens to win the AFC Conlin with this running game.

They're just going to keep Brady off the field. Keep Big Ben off the field. Keep an eye on the Ravens. All right, Browns at the Broncos. All right. You know we had to. Headlines today. We had to wrap up with your boy.

Baker Mayfield. I believe, I've been talking up the Browns a lot. Monday's headline will be Broncos get baked in Denver and Colin. The Cleveland Browns have less than a 1% chance to make the playoffs. But I'm saying there's still a chance. If they win out and the schedule is fairly favorable, they do close with the Ravens, I'd like to make a wager with you. you've got to wear a Baker-Mayfield T-shirt on this show

if the Browns, less than a 1% chance to get to the playoffs, actually get there. Will you do it? Do it for Joy and me and Baker and Joel Clatt. Okay, how about this? Yeah, what happens? What's the win for me if they don't? Well, you get to laugh at Baker-Mayfield for not making the playoffs.

I got to get something in all these bets. You ever notice that, Joy, I don't get anything. I just look stupid. Well, you know, we're not concerned about your happiness in the spot for being fair. Did you do it? No. Oh, geez. Come on, Colin.

You know the Cleveland folks really dislike both of us. I mean, they can't stand you because of how you went after Baker. I'm going to say this, though. Baker has looked awesome in the last month. And they're going to actually have a decision to make with this new head coach they've got filling in. Yeah, Freddie Kitchens is very interesting because... You don't want to keep him as head coach? No.

But you don't want to lose that guy because him and Baker have some chemistry. Oh, there's no question. And also, this Freddie Kitchens guy likes to throw the ball down the field. and Baker's a very accurate thrower. Last week I thought he had his best throw as an NFL player, the deep touchdown pass into double coverage. I thought it was the best throw he's ever made. Just for the viewers and listeners out there.

Saturday night's a big Christmas party night. We've got two of them. I know Baker. I told my wife, I got to watch Baker Mayfield in prime time. I have a feeling he shows out like 300 yards. This Denver team is beat up. No Chris Harris in the secondary. Case Keenham doesn't have much.

Can I just throw this at you because I know you're a Jets fan. I am. Is Sam Darnold in the second half last week was the best team. ever been. Phenomenal. He's 21. Can we ease up? No, no.

He's two years younger than Baker. Half the college starts. And they have, unlike Baker, Jets have nobody on offense. They're a disaster on offense. They're line, their backs, their receivers. They have a young tight end I kind of like. People have forgot this. Darnold's 4 and 6, two road wins.

If Darnold upsets the Texans this weekend, it's under a touchdown. Vegas likes the Jets this weekend. I kind of do. What do you? What do jet fans feel about Donald today? Well, they want Darnold to look good like he did in Buffalo, but I don't want to sound wrong, but they don't want the win here. They want the number one pick. It's not because there's a player, Nick Bosa, but they want to trade down and pick up the picks that they lost in the Darnold train.

You know, they got no second round pick. And you just said there's not a lot of skill position players on this team. They need a lot. So winning is not as important as just looking good and like a professional. I mean, Baker Mayfield shredded the Texans in the second half. There's no reason that Darnold can't look pretty good at home. Yeah. Good to seeing you, bud.

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