The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 12/24/2019
Episode Date: December 24, 2019Uncle Colin spreads Holiday Cheer by giving NFL Super Stars near and far the gift they truly need for being oh so good this entire year! The quarterback position is in no way built for Trust Fund kids..., Kirk Cousins still has no solution or shown the ability to carry a team in big moments. Make sure you use the eyeball test when looking at the Green Bay Packers rather than trusting the stats because they are truly a limited team going into the post season. Plus, Colin gives you his Super Bowl bubble looking ahead at NFL teams getting ready to head into the playoffs with four teams that can win the Superbowl and a Holiday special Herd Hierarchy!Guest: Bucky Brooks - FOX Sports NFL Analyst Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The herd hierarchy, 10 best teams in the NFL.
I think we really have a group of have and have Nazi.
among the best teams in the NFL.
Here we go. It's Christmas Eve.
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Yes. Merry Christmas Eve.
Happy Christmas Eve to everyone.
And I'm having a great Christmas Eve because I called this game a few weeks ago.
Yeah.
Green Bay won.
Let's start with Minnesota.
be very easy for me. Kirk Cousins can't win Monday night football. He's 0 and 9. And I'm hearing it
this morning. Colin, his offensive line stinks. Listen, you do get how the NFL works. Outside of
Dak Prescott, most guys don't come out of college and inherit the best O line, a great running
back, good weapons, best stadium. It's not the way it works. It is all about overcoming in this league.
It's not that Kirk Cousins lost. It's that he had seven first downs at home. It's not that
Kirk Cousins lost. It's that they averaged
2.6 yards of play with all those weapons.
It's not that Kirk Cousins lost. It's that
it was at home against the So-So
defense and they got three
first half turnovers
handed to him in Green Bay Territory.
Nobody thinks
Kirk Cousins is Patrick Mahomes.
He doesn't. He's
6-2-205.
He's as big as me.
It's not big, doesn't have a cannon arms,
not super athletic. We all know
the game. Tractors or trailers. He needs to be pulled. He's not a guy that can pull the franchise.
But if you're making $28 million a year, three or four times a year, your team doesn't have
their top two running backs, your offensive lines getting worked. You need to carry the team.
And he can't ever. And Bears fans and Viking fans. Aaron Rogers makes you very, very touchy
about the quarterback situation because you haven't had a quarterback.
as good as Green Bay in, I don't know,
two and a half decades between Favre and Rogers.
So Viking fans get very defensive
and Bear fans get very defensive about Trabisky
or there's a Kirk Cousins.
The reason you get defensive and angry is because you know the truth.
You got the better roster,
you got the better defense, even at home.
Aaron comes into town and beat you.
And Aaron didn't play particularly well.
And they turned the ball over three times.
it's not, teams don't need even Patrick Mahomes to carry the team. Carson Wentz.
Some of his career, he's been carried by a very good team. Last three weeks, the Eagles have said,
listen, bro, we're out of players. Can you carry us? And Carson Wentz is like, get on, get on my
back. It's all me. Three and O. Tom Brady this year. No tight end. Productivity. No deep
threat. Two rookie wide receivers.
Revolving door at left tackle.
Lost his Pro Bowl center.
Lost Brian Flores on the defensive staff.
Tom, can you still win us a division?
I got this.
Jimmy Garapolo. The Niners have asked him about three times
this year. They said, Jimmy, our defense didn't show up.
Can you win in New Orleans?
Can you win about three times this year?
Can you beat the Rams? Our defense can't stop
anybody. And Garapolo, three times.
and I don't think Garoppolo is brilliant,
but Carson Wentz, Tom Brady, Garapolo,
guys, I got this.
This is not a position for trust fund kids.
You don't wake up rich.
You've got to grind through every NFL season.
Dax the exception.
Weapons, running back, O line,
that is the exception.
Plays in a state without big, ugly weather.
Most guys, even the great ones.
Drew Brees, by the way,
there are times that he can't move the ball.
Last couple times they played Dallas.
He didn't carry the team every week.
Mahomes doesn't carry him every week.
But, you know, I hear this constant, well, Kirk doesn't have this.
I'm not interested in the problems.
I'm simply looking for solutions with quarterbacks.
And we're not asking Kirk to carry the team.
We're not.
We're just saying three or four times a year, could you make a play?
And he can't again.
So you're always telling me what Kirk Cousins doesn't have.
Here's what he doesn't have.
A win on Monday night ever.
He's 0 and 9.
That's what he doesn't have.
And when you make $28 million on those nights, you don't have everything, you are the difference.
We're going to lean on you to be the difference.
And I think Kirk's a nice guy.
But there's no reason to get defensive.
There's no reason to make excuses.
Aaron Rogers didn't have a perfect night.
Garoppolo this year.
Brady this year, Carson Wentz this year, Patrick Mahomes has been playing on one foot in October, November.
But if you make 28 mil, you got to occasionally carry the team.
It's not asking much with that coach and that defense.
All right, let's go to Green Bay because we need to give them credit, right?
I always feel like Visa and MasterCard after the Packers when I have to give them credit.
So here's basically what my eyes are telling me.
They're okay.
Congrats, you're 12 and 3 and 1 the division.
First, my eyes tell me things.
Green Bay basically has one perimeter weapon, Devante Adams.
Nothing after that.
Their offense is basically, Devonthe Adams make a play or hand it to Aaron Jones.
They're both spectacular, and that is it.
Belichick would love to face these guys.
Brackett Devonet Adams, crowd the box, take away Aaron Jones.
They don't have a third punch.
Defensively, they're 13th in sacks, 18th in total defense.
offensively, they're 16th in yards per play,
22nd and third down conversions,
17th and second half scoring,
21st in total defense.
I don't know what to say.
Congrats on winning the division at 12 and 3
and getting a buy and playing at home
and potentially getting a number one seed.
Congratulations.
But my eyes tell me one thing and stats tell me another.
I got a young coach.
who I think is going to be the second best coach in any NFC playoff game to Doug Peterson,
to Pete Carroll, to Sean Payton, to Kyle Shanahan,
or if they had to play the Vikings again, to Mike Zimmer.
And next time they'll have their star running back to Elvin Cook.
My eyes tell me Green Bay is good enough to win the NFC North at 12 and 3,
but I see a completely limited team.
They take the ball away and they don't give it back.
They've got a New England feel.
They've got very limited playmakers,
but they don't give you many free touchdowns,
and they do take the ball away, top 10 in the league.
So there's that.
And the other thing is Aaron Rogers, snippy and petty,
seems to be happy this year.
Back on top of the north after a couple of years being down.
feels great to win in the stadium
where a couple years ago I was
jeered leaving the field after breaking my collarbone
feels pretty good
they're just boxes I think you need to check
to win the Super Bowl
one of them is head coach
I think they'll have one of the weakest head coaches in football
another one is
playmakers
Not a lot of them.
The other one is quarterback.
Okay, they check that.
Opportunistic defense, if not great.
They kind of check that.
They'll play at home.
They do check that.
But boy, when I look at the numbers that matter
offensively and defensively in the coach,
and they don't throw the ball, by the way, down the field well,
that's with Aaron Rogers.
One receiver, one back I like,
They won, congrats, 12 and 3, you're at home, it's lining up.
I just do not.
This feels very Green Bay over the last 20 years.
They'll play a playoff game at Lambo.
They'll win a playoff game at Lambo,
and they're just not special enough to get to the next level.
Even if they played Minnesota again in Lambo, Delvin Cook's back,
I'd take Minnesota.
I really would.
I would take Minnesota.
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but lack athletic ability offensively. Not enough playmakers. I think Green Bay can get close,
but I don't trust Matt LaFleur against the Sean Payton, against the Pete Carroll,
against the Mike Zimmer again, against the Kyle Shanahan, against the Doug Peterson. I don't trust
him there. And I also think, you know, Devonte Adams and a little pressure on Aaron Rogers. I've seen
Green Bay get mauled three times this year by good pass rushes.
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forehead.
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are close.
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They're bringing in Marshawn Lynch.
I mean, come on.
What is that?
I mean, first and goal, maybe you use Beast Mode, but I think it's real simple.
I think we're down to six that can win it.
Six in that can't.
They're in it.
You know, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Seattle could win a playoff game.
That's about it.
No shot at a Super Bowl.
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You know, I spend a lot of time on this.
We think about it.
We talk about it.
I think we've got kind of a clear delineation.
There's a really good four or five.
And then there's a lot of close.
And then there's playoff teams that can't do much.
Here we go, our herd hierarchy.
herd hierarchy
The top 10 NFL teams
According to college
Number 10
Seattle Seahawks
Sometimes you get bad breaks in life
And they're a running team
Who just had cluster injuries
Last weekend at running back
They're flying Marshawn Lynch into town
Who can solve some of it, not all of it
Listen they were already a team that was
too Russell Wilson dependent
But as the running game got better
They were becoming less so
but now the running game is shattered.
And I think, now, listen, Russell's tremendous.
29 touchdowns, five picks.
If any guy in this league could just will his way to win,
they're also a great road team.
I mean, Seattle has got a great home field advantage.
I think Russell Wilson and Tom Brady,
the best road quarterbacks of my life.
But I think you can't have cluster injuries
in one of the most important units,
especially for this team, I have them at 10.
Number nine.
I think we all know what Buffalo is.
They're good, not special.
A little young at quarterback.
I don't think they have kind of the playmaker that a Kansas City or a Baltimore would at quarterback to get out-coached and win.
I think they have to win by out-coaching, not turning it over.
You know, the two games against New England say it all.
They had them both and lost them both.
And that's what they are.
For a team that was in the bottom five organizations in the league for a decade, it's baby steps.
And they got into the playoffs a couple years ago, and it was one of the ugly games.
and they're going to get into the playoffs this year, and it won't be as ugly.
But I think we all know what Buffalo is.
They're close to being really, really interesting, and now it's kind of interesting.
Number nine.
Number eight.
Philadelphia, they are very good situationally.
This is what I love about it.
They went to Buffalo and won.
That's why I put them ahead of Buffalo.
Very good situationally.
Now, I do think if they get into the playoffs, situations aren't going to matter because they're going to get blown out by the Saints.
They're just not good enough athletically.
Now, Deshawn Jackson may come back if they want a playoff game, but that's, you know, that's way down the road.
There's a lot of things they do well.
Last four games, Carson Wentz, dealing with deck chairs and lawn furniture is completing almost 69% of his throws.
They got some young guys picking up the slack.
There's things I like about them.
Most of them are qualities that win you close games.
But I don't think they'd be in a close game against New Orleans or a San Francisco, so I have them at eight.
Number seven. Minnesota. Everything's got to go perfect for Kirk Cousins, and that's not the way the NFL works. Last night's a great example. He was at home. He got three turnovers, but he's missing a couple of running backs. That means they rely on him, and he just can't do it. So this league is not about everything falling into place. It's about everything falling apart, and you keeping it in place. And again, I like the coach. I like the defense. But I just think there's real limitations at quarterback. Listen, last night,
They were showing, and by the way, it's now into Kirk Cousins head.
They were showing close-ups of Kirk Cousins, and he would take these deep, obvious size.
He's anxious.
He understands the brand.
He understands what we're saying.
I don't think that helps as the games get bigger and more off script.
I think he has to be totally on script and comfortable, so Minnesota's at 7.
Number 6.
Don't love Green Bay, but they beat him in Minneapolis, so I get them at 6.
Listen, they've only got one big offensive threat when you combine the tight-in and wide receiver core, Devante Adams.
And I think the best coaches will bracket him or the Saints would put Lattimore on him or, you know, I just don't think Devonthe Adams can be your entire passing game.
And by the way, you could just look at the numbers, even with Aaron Rogers.
Aaron's not very good this year throwing balls and completions over 15 yards.
He's not very good at all.
He's 11th and passer rating, 16th in passing yards per game.
So we've seen what they are.
I mean, they can win without Devante Adams,
but they can only win vertically one way.
Devante Adams, and I think the best teams will take him away.
Aaron Rogers, his numbers are very similar to last year with Mike McCarthy.
Now, they have a better running game, but offensively passing the ball,
there's just much better in the NFL right now than Green Bay.
I put him at six.
Number five.
New England, because I think New England would beat Green Bay.
I think New England would look at Green Bay and go,
God, we've seen this before.
Crowd the box for Aaron Jones.
Brackett DeVante Adams, they won't move the ball on us, and they wouldn't.
There are so many things I like about New England.
Special teams, defense, head coach, quarterback, experience, situational.
Here's what I don't.
They can win one way.
It's got to be low scoring.
They can't get into fireworks shows.
And I don't think athletically they can stop Kansas City or Baltimore.
They can't keep them in the teens.
They are the most resourceful team in the NFL, and that is an awesome quality.
but I think even at Foxborough, they would struggle to beat Kansas City a second time.
They check every box, but in the NFL playoffs, you occasionally need a cheap touchdown.
Now, they are number one in takeaways.
And what does that mean?
They get short field.
They'll take the ball away, and they'll have 27-yard drives for touchdowns, not 77.
So, again, they have manipulated their lack of athleticism brilliantly.
Trick plays, block punts, takeaways.
but I think the ceiling is lower this year than any I remember.
Number four.
San Francisco.
The next two teams remind me of each other.
Here's what I like about San Francisco.
Jimmy G.
Everybody else doubts him.
But you know what this kid's done since week 11?
70% completions.
He makes the occasional mistake, but boy, is he good when you need him.
As we've looked at this defensive line and we look at Kyle Shanahan, you know what's really
impressive?
Jimmy Garoppolo.
And then they added Emmanuel Sanders, along with George Kittle.
Why does that matter?
Because this is a team that doesn't need 12-play drive.
Sometimes they just flip it out to George and he goes, you know, he goes rock.
He just runs over people and you get a cheap touchdown.
I think Emmanuel Sanders was a huge organizational decision.
And I think it's helped them and he helped them this weekend.
They have the secret sauce.
They can be outplayed and get cheap touchdowns and win games there at number four.
Number three.
I think Kansas City is San Francisco of the A.
their defense can run hot and cold.
I've got a young quarterback.
I love both their coaches.
They're crazy explosive.
But I think they can be outcoast and outplayed and win.
And I think that matters in the NFL.
I think it matters in the playoffs.
You're going against the greatest quarterbacks and the greatest coaches.
You're going to have bad halves.
Belichick's had bad halves.
Belichick had a bad first half in the Super Bowl.
But I think Kansas City and San Francisco, and if they played, I'd probably take Kansas City.
a field goal.
They are the equivalent of each other.
Number two.
New Orleans.
I doubted them all year.
Unbelievably athletic.
The most dominant player on the perimeter in the lead, Michael Thomas.
Great GM, great coach.
Offensive line is well compensated and worth it.
They've done a good job to draft and acquire pass rushers.
Not a lot they don't do well.
You get, and here's the thing.
I kind of get the same formula.
They're very New England, very resourceful, very smart.
You can't get to the quarter.
back. They sack yours. You can't sack theirs. They've only, let me read this here. They've turned
the ball over eight times all year. That's for an offense that's passing the ball all over the
place and is wildly sophisticated and clever. They just give you no openings. They don't play poorly.
They lose, but they just don't play poorly on any Sunday. I've got him at two.
Number one. Baltimore. You know what's interesting about Baltimore? If you go to their defense
week one and now, they got like seven different players starting.
They've done a very good job organizationally over the course of a season to change their defense, add pieces, get a lot of experience.
I still think, you know, I kind of feel like they topped out at week 13, and they're not going to play anybody this weekend.
So they're going to get a buy.
They're going to be at home.
They're going to be rested.
But I think they're the Saints, but more explosive over the top.
I would take them over the – they're the Saints.
No mistakes.
A lot of good players.
But the Saints, it's most.
Mostly nine play drives dominated by Kamara, Breeze, and Michael Tomlin.
This team will get freebies.
Lamar Jackson will put on a move, boom, get a freebie.
This team will throw the ball over the top.
So Baltimore is my number one team in the National Football League.
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presents a good dozen presents as we move into christmas tomorrow morning uncle colin oh ho ho what gift would
you give to tom brady well i've given this great thought uncle colin is going to give tom brady
jet packs for christmas which in turn he can give to his wide receivers who in turn he can
can get separation.
His wide receivers ranked 20th by pro football focus.
They haven't scored 25 plus points just once since October.
They need some jet propulsion in that receiving core.
I think that'll pass the uniform.
Code standards, yeah.
Uncle Colin, what gift would you give to Sam Darnold?
Oh, I love me some Sam Darnold.
You do.
I really do USC to the New York Jets.
instead of just a pair of tackles, how about an entire offensive line?
He is six and two when he gets sacked two or fewer times.
Of course, that rarely happens.
Their offensive line is 30th in run blocking and 27th in pass blocking.
Oh, ho, ho for Sam Darnold.
It is a draft full of excellent tackles.
Get him five.
It's an expensive gift.
Uncle Colin, what gift would you give Brian Flores?
Oh, great admiration for Brian Flores.
Got handed nothing.
He made chicken salad out of, you know.
How about Tua, the Alabama quarterback?
We're going to give a good medical report and Tua.
They've got three picks to go four and four down the stretch with a tanking roster.
He has earned the most special gift any young coach could have the next Russell Wilson.
That's very high praise.
Uncle Colin, what gift would you give to Lamar Jackson?
Oh, he has given us so much.
He has.
How about a trophy case?
He's going to win MVP, offensive player of the year, the Super Bowl, and maybe he already won the Heisman.
The young man, where is he going to store all these gifts?
It's a very useful gift, very thoughtful.
Uncle Colin, what gift would you give to OBJ?
You know, I've given this great thought.
How about Southwest Airline gift cards?
Love that.
Their slogan is,
want to get away, and he told people,
come get me.
He's having his worst season.
He has one playoff game in six years.
Paris, New York, Cleveland,
House in Hollywood, Southwest gift travel cards.
Yeah, he would use that for sure.
Uncle Colin, what gift would you give to Andy Reed?
You know, Andy and I,
I have knocked down a few.
Yeah.
Good friends.
We are good friends.
We enjoy a lot of fun together.
And he has the most wins in the Super Bowl era without a Super Bowl.
Even Doug Peterson and John Harbaugh from his coaching Christmas tree have them.
Andy Reed gets a Super Bowl trophy.
Chief Super Bowl?
Oh, ho.
Look, there's my friend.
He's so excited for a Super Bowl trophy.
Who wouldn't be?
What gift would you give to Carson Wentz?
Oh, very fond of this young man.
Very.
How about a back brace for carrying the Philadelphia Eagles for a month?
This guy throwing to deck chairs and lawn furniture last three games,
71% completion percentage.
105 passerating and no pecks, a back brace for all the strain from carrying Greg Ward.
It's very thoughtful.
What gift would you give to Aaron Rogers, Uncle Colin?
Now, he has often been a very spoiled child.
But Santa is very forgiving and not judgmental.
At all.
At all.
I'm giving Aaron a 49er loss to Seattle.
that would allow him to be a number one seed, play at home around his Packer family.
They are seven and one at home this year.
Pretty good.
Best home record in the NFL.
You know, he's been a little chirpy.
It can be a little petty.
I think you'd appreciate that guest a lot.
Santa is never judgmental on Christmas.
What gift would you give to George Kittle?
Oh, he is fun.
He is fun.
A lot of fun.
How about a championship belt?
Rock follows him on Instagram.
He's called the people's tight end.
Rock is called the people's champ.
He has added great flare.
Just when Gronk retired, we needed the millennial version of Gronk, and we got it.
He has a flair for wrestling.
I think he would appreciate this from Santa.
That's a very thoughtful gift.
From Iowa to Silicon Valley, he's going to have many riches going forward.
What gift would you give to Russell Wilson, Uncle Colin?
Well, I have been a great fan.
His college coach said you're not good enough.
He went to Wisconsin.
And the NFL said you're not good enough.
You're going to go to the third round.
So I am going to give him a gift that's probably the most expensive gift
ever given by Santa.
A time machine.
Whoa.
And I'm going to take him back to September,
maybe even October,
when he had Chris Carson,
Dwayne, Deges, Dwayne Brown,
Jedavian Clowny,
quandary Diggs, Rashad Penny, all healthy.
Yeah, that'd be very useful.
I'm going to take him back in time,
and they'll be healthy.
Because as much admiration as I have,
the fondness I have for Russell Wilson,
he's pretty much screwed for the next week.
Well, I think that's probably the most expensive.
The second most is the offensive line.
That's a very expensive gift.
Yeah, offensive lines are costly.
Very expensive.
All right.
Finally.
Finally.
What gift would you give to Baker Mayfield?
He has been naughty.
He had a video and law enforcement.
Notty.
He grabbed his junk.
Notty.
I've grabbed a reindeer too from time to time.
No junk.
Only when the reindeer needed to be scolded.
I've grabbed Mrs. Claus, but let's not get into it.
But I thought about giving Baker Mayfield coal.
But instead, I'm going to give him a mentor, a strong presence in his life.
Like Tony Robbins.
You didn't give him Tony Robbins?
I'm going to give him Tony Robbins to find the power within, Joy Taylor.
I thought you were going to say Mike McCartney.
Somebody to take the greatness within, the power within,
and show him the enlightened way to a very merry Christmas.
These were the worst imitation of Santa of all time.
I didn't think it was terrible.
Those were thoughtful gifts, though.
And a happy new year.
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helped build the Panthers roster and the Seahawks,
now an NFL analyst for NFL Network and us,
writes great articles, high school football coach, all that stuff.
So I hear, you and I mostly align on people.
Mostly.
Mostly.
But we don't on Jimmy G.
You're not in on it.
Not all the way in, no, not yet.
I think the playoffs will allow us to really see who Jimmy G is.
And I know, man, it's easy to get caught up in the fact that he had game-winning drives against the Saints,
the game-winning touchdown, the throw that he had against the Rams.
I mean, look, it's nice.
Like, look.
2316, big plays.
Big plays.
We had a blown coverage.
Taylor Rap went too far out and two men.
But look, give him credit, he made the throws.
Those are things that you want to see.
But what we're going to see in the post season, he is going.
going to have to win these shootouts against Aaron Rogers, Drew Breeze, Russell Wilson.
He got better players, though.
If you're better players than all those guys?
I don't like Green Bay or Seattle.
I like outside of Devante Adams.
No, no, I understand that part of it.
However, in the postseason, the experience really matters when it comes to the quarterback.
And the experience that Aaron Rogers and Drew Breeze and Russell Wilson have,
collectively and Jimmy G
it would be his first major
playoff series where he's having to play
with the new team and he's going to have to
maybe be the guy.
Is he ready to handle all of that stuff?
I mean, that's a lot.
If I said to you Jimmy G. or Dak, who you like more?
I mean.
Really?
Because, I mean, like now, I mean,
I have to say Jimmy G
because you get the coaching staff.
Like if we were just talking about individual players
and I would lean towards that.
You don't think Jimmy G is more talented than Dak.
I mean, he should be more talented.
drafted before, right?
All right, Carson Wentz or Jimmy G?
I would take Carson Wentz.
So would I.
I'll take Carson Wins.
All right, let's just play the Jimmy G game.
Matt Ryan, Jimmy G.
Matt Ryan.
Close.
Oh.
Derek Carr, Jimmy G.
I would take Jimmy G.
I would take Jimmy G.
Over Derek Kaur.
Okay, it gives a couple more.
Hold on.
Kailer Murray, Jimmy G.
Calder Murray is really good.
I know he is.
He's really good.
I would say Jimmy G., but Caller Murray with a bullet.
Jimmy G.
Or Jared Gough?
that's almost like a push to me
that's a push.
Well, one's been to a Super Bowl.
How about Jimmy G. or Kirk Cousins?
Oh, Jimmy G. I'll take Jim G or Kirk Cousins.
Okay. So you like Jimmy G.
I like him. He still just has to prove that he is going to be the guy.
Like for the 49ers to me, when I'm looking at them and their Super Bowl prospects,
he is the weakest link.
Oh, time out.
He's the weakest link?
On their team? For sure.
He's the weakest link.
He's the only thing that you would question whether they can get over the top.
That's secondary?
No, no, no.
with the defense. The defense because the
pass rush can mask the issues that they have
in the back and if they have any. The run game
is rock solid. They got perimeter
playmakers. The Emmanuel Sanders deal was
outstanding. A great deal. Coupling him
with George Kittles. Look,
it's perfect. The only question
that you have is how is Jimmy G
going to handle the big stage? So yes, he's
the weakest link. Wow.
If that's the weakest link, just
give them the trophy. I mean, you can feel good
about it. You can feel good about it. If Jimmy
G's the weakest link on that team,
Look, they're well constructed.
They're well built.
He is ultimately, if you are a team, and so the way defensive coordinators will come in
and how are you going to defense to San Francisco 49ers, who do we have to take away?
George Kittle.
We got to take away George Kittle.
We got to stop the running game.
And we want to put it on Jimmy G's shoulders because he has shown a propensity to throw interceptions.
So.
Not that.
Not that many.
Turnovers.
Bigs deciding.
factor in games. You want to put it on his shoulders because the more he throws, the more likely
he's going to throw it to the other team. So, you know, you came up, reacquaint our audience with
your theory on quarterback's tractor trailer. Look, tractors are trailers, trucks and trailers,
how do you want to call it. Well, you were a scout. This is how you described quarterback.
This is how we did it. And Daniel Jeremiah, my podcast partner, I moved the sticks. We talked about it.
So if you're a truck, you carry the squad.
You are carrying everything.
Carson Wentz to last month.
Carson Wentz, Tom Brady forever, had been that guy.
If you're a trailer, you need a squad to carry you.
You are a guy that has to have everything around, the perfect environment, the right stuff.
I'm getting to the point.
I don't think there's a lot of trucks in this league.
No.
And about five.
No, they're not.
Who's a truck?
I would say Russell Wilson is.
I would still say to Aaron Rogers is.
Drew Brees to a point, even though he's come down, he needs to support.
and Cassmore.
Three.
I don't think Tom Brady is.
Mahomes?
Mahomes is absolutely.
Okay.
Carson Wentz?
Yeah, Carson Wentz.
I think this is a thing.
Carson Wentz this weekend, the Sunday game against the Cowboys.
I think that was kind of like a coming out party in terms of him joining the ranks of the trucks.
What he was able to do with a, I mean, like, look, every play, it seemed like someone was going to the sideline.
He was able to continue to do it.
And I will say, it was the biggest game of his career.
There was a lot of pressure on him.
Did you not?
up. You sound like an
eagle fan. I know you were at the bar with Eagle fans,
but you're starting to sound like one.
So you, going into that game, you were sitting like,
I could go either way on him.
Absolutely. What?
He did it. What was the signature win? He was MVP.
No, he didn't win it.
We talked about it. We talk about him.
He was going to win. Do I have to win
Sportscaster of the year every year?
Yes. Yes. I need to see the
Emmys and all that other stuff behind you so I can
confirm you. But like, he hadn't
won it. So they won this. Well,
with Nick Foles.
And so we needed to see him play in a big game and demonstrate that he was ready.
This was the first big signature win that he's had.
Oh, Lordy.
What's the other signature win?
So you don't like Jimmy G. or Wentz until Sunday.
I like him both.
I like them both.
I like them both. I like them both.
But Carson Wentz had to do it.
So now the bigger thing is, can he do it this weekend?
Can he follow it up?
Philadelphia can only, Bucky, they can only win one way.
Zach Ertz isn't going to play.
they'll win 1716.
The Eagles can win one way for the rest of the way
until they get their guys back.
I mean, and even when they get their guys back,
I don't know how great their guys are.
Like Alshod Jeffrey won't come back.
Nelson Aguilar is...
They're something.
They have something, but the fact that he's been able to do it
with a bunch of tight ends,
Greg Ward and Miles Sanders,
that's a testament to him.
I give him credit.
The last half of the season,
he has played really well.
but early in the year he was just
since his rookie year
Carson Wentz
80 touchdowns
21 picks
that's nice
very efficient
but you know that's what
efficient
you know that's the expectation
when you're the number two pick
overall right
like when you're a second overall pick
you're supposed to be one of those guys right
so you're holding it against it no I'm not holding against it
but that's the standard like
Andrew Luck came in as the number one
overall pick and he played like it
you are hard to please
yes but that's the expectation
that's the expectation which takes us to like
the Baker thing.
Okay, so if Carson Wentz
is drafted number two and the expectation
is he's able to carry everyone
along, well, with Baker Mayfield,
that's the expectation. Like, the expectation
is when I take you number one
and I say that you're the best player in the
draft, you expect
phenomenal things. Like, that's the whole point
because if not, why expend the number
one overall pick on that guy?
No, you and I both agreed. I wouldn't have
drafted Baker number one. I think he's
I think he's an NFL franchise quarterback. I just don't
I don't think he's that.
He doesn't have the arm, the size, the, I just don't see it.
Like to me, you know, and look, see, like, so why our conversations can matter?
Because you've been around, you understand the scouting business, you understand, you're grading people on an ideal.
The ideal is when I take someone number one overall, this is a transcendent talent.
This is a generational player.
It's the difference between a model and a supermodel.
There's a million models on Instagram.
They're all beautiful people.
And then Giselle Bunchen walks in and you're like, okay, that's a super model.
Yes.
Like Tyra Banks or Naomi Campbell.
Okay, that's a super model.
That's a top five pick to me.
Yes.
You don't even look.
I mean, honestly, when I saw Calvin Johnson in person, I was like,
you don't even look like a receiver.
Right.
But see that, and that's like as we flip the calendar and get to the 2020 draft,
keep that in mind.
Okay.
Because that's the ideal that you want to have when you're picking somebody.
All right.
Hopefully Joy is listening to this segment.
Here's my thing on Joe Burrow.
Okay.
Where's the sports?
special.
Yeah.
So here's what I'll say about Joe Burrow.
And I really like Joe Burrow a light.
I think a lot.
I think he's going to be a really good prospect.
However, when we're talking about like that sacred ground of being number one overall,
like you would like them to check off boxes and certain categories.
And so when I look at Joe Burrow, what I can say is this year he's been outstanding.
Yes.
Tor it up.
No question.
However, the one thing that I worry about is from one year to the next,
he went from a 57% completion rate to a 77% completion rate.
His touchdown production jumped 300% in one year.
And the only thing that we can point to is, like, people say,
oh, he had more experience, but Joe Brady comes in and helps with the passing game.
So now I wonder which Joe Burrow is going to show up at the NFL facility,
the one that we saw in 2019 or the one that we saw in 2018.
And so it's just a concern.
I'm not saying he's not worthy, but it's one of the things that over the next three or four months we have to look at,
which is why this weekend is as important for him as anything that he's done this year.
How he plays against Oklahoma and how he plays the next game, potentially against Clemson and Ohio State,
he will be judged on those performances.
By the way, he should be.
Yes.
Listen, you do get judged in life on certain moments.
And the reality is when you're – I'm not going to judge.
judge Tua against Kentucky.
I'm going to judge him against Georgia
and Auburn. And again, I
listen, if Joe Burrell wins this thing, and I think
Clemson's going to, I think Clemson's the best team in the
country, Ohio State's two, LSU's three actually.
And I think Oklahoma will make it uncomfortable.
And I, listen, I could be totally
wrong on this stuff. But boy,
when Chase Young looks like a top
five pick. Oh, yeah. That is
a top five pick. That's what it's supposed to look like.
That wide receiver, Alabama
receiver? Yes.
Even, now like Jerry Judy a lot, but like Chase Young is what it's supposed to look like.
Having been in Carolina and watched Julius Peppers every day, that's how they're supposed to look.
When you take someone number one and number two, when they walk in the building, you're like, yep, he looks.
That's what they're supposed to look like.
So Chase Young looks like that.
So for me, with Joe Burrow, I just need more convincing that he is the best player in this draft.
Okay, so let's, and I think it's fair.
This is going to be a great test.
if he rocks it against Oklahoma and then beats an Ohio State, maybe I change my mind.
I'm always flexible on this stuff.
Yeah, and it has to be like that.
And look, also I'll say, for disclosure, having worked around the Elite 11 camp and
haven't seen the guys or whatever, like, I think the thing is a little different because
now there's so much access to the recruiting sites and everything that typically you hear
about these guys that are star players, you hear about them when they're 16, 17, 18.
You didn't with Burrell.
Right.
And so, like with Tua, we heard about it.
So I'm just saying, and I'm not saying that everybody is right.
That's right.
But typically when guys are generational talents, by the way, these two kids in L.A.
this year, Bryce Young and the kid going to Clemson?
Yeah.
We've been talking about them for three years.
Trevor Lawrence, I saw him as a junior high school.
Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields, same thing.
You heard about them.
They were one and two.
They battled the whole time.
And I'm not saying that Joe Burrow can't be number one overall and not come from a being a three
you are a four-star to rise up to that.
I'm just saying, based on his last year, because it was so remarkable,
I would have to go back and look at the previous years,
and I would just want to know, well, why?
Why it takes so long for him to pop?
What was the things that impacted his game going from good to great
that final season in LSU?
Is it him or is it the system?
And if it's the system, I just want to know,
can we replicate it if he goes to an NFL city?
Can someone take what he did at LSU
and put him in a situation where he can do the same stuff?
You know what we should do, by the way, Merry Christmas to all your fam.
What we should do, you know, when the NFL season ends, you know, we've never done this before.
We could hold, you and I could come on, you could bring Daniel Jeremiah over.
And then I'll say I could take joy, and we're drafting against you.
And I want to do a top 10 NFL draft and we'll throw all sorts of curveballs in it.
Oh, you like that?
You like to throw curballs and mock shots.
I'm a surfer.
I'm on my surfboard.
Always waiting for the crazy wave.
Bucky Brooks, good seeing you.
Nice.
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