The Herd with Colin Cowherd - BEST OF THE HERD – Dodgers In Disarray, Mike McCarthy Underrated, Josh Allen Super Bowl Bound?

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Colin Cowherd discusses the Dodgers losing their 5th game in a row amidst criticisms they're “ruining baseball”. Colin explains what makes the Dodgers different from every other team in Ma...jor League Baseball, and it’s not how much they spent on their roster. He believes Steelers head coach Mike McCarthy in underrated and proves it by stacking his resume up against other elite coaches. Plus, NFL reporter Albert Breer joins the show explaining how the Chiefs expect to turn things around after missing the playoffs last year and why the Cowboys believe they could have the NFL’s best offense.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, it's Wednesday. How much fun is Wrigleyville, especially if you're a Cub fan? We are live. It's the herd. you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us on a Wednesday, part of your day. John Middlkoff, as always, filling in this weekend next for Jay Mack, who's on vacation, well earned. Well, I went to the Cubs game last night. 5-1.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Cubs won. Dodgers lost again. You know, three days ago, the Dodgers were ruining the sport. Three days later, apparently not. Five straight losses, lost seven of nine. By the way, the Braves have won six straight. The Red Sox have won six straight. 29 and 5 in their last 34.
Starting point is 00:03:18 The Dodgers are melting down. Their best players are hurt or can't hit. Is the media ever right with their fatalistic claims? I know I'm a broken record, but God, I push back on this stuff. The sky is falling. Doomsday. Folks, the media, by and large, attracts young people who push back on power and wealth and the Dodgers are rich and powerful.
Starting point is 00:03:40 but the young media is wrong. Stop staring at the paint job. Look under the hood. The Dodgers are a mess. Otani's got two home runs since the All-Star break. Health, age, brittle, expensive. Mookie Betts, one for 16 during the losing streak, and I mean anemic, feeble at bats.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So this Tarek's scuba acquisition was much more life raft than adding a, you know, a helipad to the yacht. This team is, I'm looking at the number since July 31st for our radio audience, tied for the worst record, the most home runs allowed, the home run differentials the worst, second most runs allowed, the team ERA has shot, it's almost seven, second worst in baseball. Again, the Red Sox's on fire. The Braves on fire.
Starting point is 00:04:38 The Cubs playing well. The Dodgers have bullpen issues, age issues. Now, now, now, I will say, all you fatalists, let's say the Dodgers had just, you know, won 114 games and flown through the baseball playoffs, like the 98 Yankees did, who lost one game in the entire 98 playoffs. One game. The Yankees in the late 90s were so good. swept back-to-back world series. The Dodgers are winning on the margins. Game seven, they went to rotational players and backups,
Starting point is 00:05:19 starters out of the bullpen. From 98 to 2000, the New York Yankees won three straight World Series. They were 12 and 1 in those World Series. The sport wasn't competitive. And I don't remember this outrage. You're all staring at the paint job. open up the hood. This is an old team.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They're on the hook for Mookie Betts' contract for six years. He looks shot. Otani now? This is what happens when you pitch and you play. I mean, I'm watching the Cubs last night. The Cubs have added five arms at the trade deadline. Their batting order, their position players are excellent.
Starting point is 00:06:01 The last two nights, they're the better team. The Braves are the better team. The Red Sox are the better team. I mean, I grew up in the 70s where the sport was lob, The Cincinnati Reds batting order. These are the guys that hit an order. Pete Rose, Ken Griffey Sr., Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, George Foster, Tony Perez.
Starting point is 00:06:19 They had average pitching and dominated the sport. The Yankees go 12 and 1 in three straight World Series. Dominate the sport. This team's winning on margins the last two years. And now they're broken. They are broken. So, I mean, last year in the World Series, the Blue Jays hit 270.
Starting point is 00:06:36 The Dodgers hit 200. The Blue Jays had 22 more hits. I mean, I don't believe in luck, but if there's ever been luck in a seventh game of a World Series, everything worked the Dodgers way. Some of it, Dave Rogers, some of it levers, Dave Roberts, and some of it just out and out luck. It's crazy World Series game seven. So the Brewers and the Braves could have acquired Scoobel. Blame them for not land in the plane.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Don't blame the Dodgers for being desperate, badly needed. him knowing they're getting old expensive and brittle and this is probably the last potentially great team in September here's Dave Roberts on the debut and another loss we got to find a way to win a ball game you know I thought tonight Terrick was Terrick was fine a lot of emotion adrenaline and it was you know he limited the damage you know there's probably probably a little bit more in there for sure, but I'm not going to push him every time out. We have a lot of baseball left to play. He's a guy that we're all counting on, so I think that I'm going to manage, you know, and pick my
Starting point is 00:07:49 spots with him, and, you know, you still got to score. All right. So the Pittsburgh Steelers in Mike McCarthy era begins in earnest, right? And there was a quote yesterday by one of the running backs, he goes, this is not like Mike Tomlin. This is the Eastbury. He's, he says, easiest first day of camp ever. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I really don't. Mike McCarthy, the Steelers coach, has the distinction, and I believe this to be true, of being the greatest football coach ever with a mediocre reputation.
Starting point is 00:08:24 He's like the Nicholas Cage of football coaches. Everybody's like, Nicholas Cage, nobody ever mentions him as a great actor. And like everything he's in is good. I mean, Conair was great, adaptation was great, leaving Las Vegas, his uncleas. unbelievable. Raising Arizona is one of the funniest films I've ever seen in my life. The Rock Face Off. It seems like a pretty good actor. He's good in everything he's in. I mean, Marlon Brando had six bombs. Everybody's in bad movies. So Mike McCarthy between Dallas and Green Bay has eight division titles. When DAC was healthy, number one offense in the league. Here's
Starting point is 00:08:59 funny. If you look at John Harbaugh's resume stacked up with Mike McCarthy. Now for the radio audience, you won't see all of this. But remember, Remember, John Harbaugh got fired in Baltimore was the hottest candidate on the market. Their resumes are identical. The only difference is, oh, wait, there is none. Mike McCarthy gets hired and the Steelers settle. Harbaugh gets hired with the Giants' home run. Mike Tomlin.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Put up Mike Tomlin's resume against Mike McCarthy. Tomlin's viewed as a legend. McCarthy, ugh, that's all the Steelers did. Look at their resumes. The only difference, McCarthy's got more playoff wins.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So why in the world is Tomlin's reputation this? I mean, he had Big Ben. And John Harbaugh's reputation this, he had Lamar Jackson and Joe Flack on his prime. And I think it's this. McCarthy took
Starting point is 00:10:08 all the heat, and Aaron Rogers took none of it at the time in Green Bay. So the narrative got set in his coaching prime that he was the problem in Green Bay. Remember, Aaron wasn't political. Aaron wasn't as passive aggressive. Aaron wasn't as weird in the early years in Green Bay, right? He was that really cocky kid under Brett Farb. He was beautiful. He was fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:42 He moved. Something happened late in Green Bay. And he just, you know, off-season commitment. Iahuasquez. Even Matt LaFleur is like, let's move on. Let's go with Jordan Love. But what happens when the narrative gets set in your career? You're not a good actor after a couple of early bombs.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And I think that's the difference is that Mike McCarthy took all the arrows in those early days in Green Bay. We all know now there's a lot to unpack with Aaron Rogers. Forget what he said a couple days ago. Just there's a lot with Aaron. The off-seasons. It's amazing. These people who find such things like People Magazine know who everybody in the world's
Starting point is 00:11:32 married to except Aaron Rogers. I mean, there's a lot of enigma and mystery. and so the truth was Green Bay was a 50-50 split. Like Brady and Belichick both get credit in New England. McCarthy and Aaron both get criticism and blame in Green Bay. But Mike took all of it. And I don't think he's ever been able to rid himself of that negativity. Now Matt Hasselbeck was on earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:12:02 He said, listen, I don't care what happened earlier with McCarthy and Rogers. people in sports get over it. Quarterbacks and coaches get over it. I believe it's going to be great. I mean, I know what it's like to, you know, feel like nails on a chalkboard with a guy and then all of a sudden he leaves. And then it's like, oh, man, I missed that guy.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I didn't realize how good I had it. And so I think for both guys, for Aaron Rogers, man, he probably has missed Mike McCarthy. I think for Mike McCarthy, for sure. He's missed that intangible factor that Aaron Rogers brings to the table. And I, you know, so I think like kind of like you were saying, and like that old relationship that gets back. Hey man, the grass wasn't greener necessarily.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I have respect for you. And then when you have that deep background of experiences together and a deep respect for one another, I think it works. Remember the 13 years he was in Green Bay, McCarthy always had the offense right. That was never the issue. He only had two top 10 defenses. And in one of them, he won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:12:57 So I can't, we're going to talk once again to Mike DeFabo. He's at Steelers Camp. He's going to join us later in the show. So can't wait for that. today. Albert Breer, Eric Caros is going to be joining us. I mean, the Dodgers are just,
Starting point is 00:13:13 they've got so many issues right now. And I got to tell you, we got a lot of baseball guys on our staff. If you've never been, this is my second third cup game, if you've never been to Wrigleyville in July or August or September, make a pilgrimage. I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:13:29 If Wrigleyville was in Belgium, if it was in, you know, Vienna, Austria, it would be a bucket list, like for a lot of Americans who want to go watch Liverpool play, or they want to go to the Tour to France, they want to do, if Rigglyville wasn't in Chicago and it was overseas in Europe, it would be one of those bucket lists for people, that place is, was popping last night. I mean, just, just another Tuesday night at Wrigleyville.
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Starting point is 00:18:21 I think the Rams have the best roster in a decade. I mean, that's how good it is. You got to go back to those Seahawk teams, Russell Wilson in his prime, when he wasn't making any money and they could load it up with Percy Harvin and Cliff Avril, who didn't even have to take that many snaps because they were paying Russell Wilson nothing and he was productive. I think the Rams roster is insane. The defensive line now if Aaron Donald comes back, I'd never seen anything like it. And I think the Buffalo Bills. Which brings up the inevitable question, which is, when's Josh Allen going to get there?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Never forget. 14 years of John Elway's career, 14-year period, he didn't have a trophy. lot of things need to happen. Right? Drew Brees, won. Farr of one. Rogers won. Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, none.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Brady, Mahomes, Bradshaw, those are historical outliers. Bradshaw had the best defense for 25 years. Montana had the best coach and best wide receiver, arguably ever. Brady's first three Super Bowls, he won by a field goal.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I mean, the margins were narrow for New England for years and they were winning narrowly. So it's like he's in year nine. He's really good. A lot of it is almost like Phil Mickelson. When do you enter in your prime? Phil Mickelson's prime was Tiger Woods Prime. Well, Josh Allen and Mahomes entered the league one year apart.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Mahomes got the better owner, arguably, GM, coach, and weapon, Travis Kelsey. In an offensive league, the weapon matters. Offensive coach, Andy Reed. So like a lot of advantages just didn't go Josh Allen's way. You know, and it's almost like movies. Shawshank Redemption comes out in the same year as Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction gets overlooked. You know, 2017, the shape of water wins. A story about a woman who falls in love with a fish.
Starting point is 00:20:24 What are we doing? Yeah, weaker year. I mean, so who knows? But I tend to think the Rams are going to win the NFC, the better conference. and I like Buffalo in the AFC. I think the DJ Moore, offensive coach now. I think it all works.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But Josh Allen, this is the inevitable question. Role, when are you going to get one? His response. The playoffs, a lot of times in the last, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:50 however many years I've been here now, and, you know, just continuing to find ways to learn from it. And I think that's, it's a hard pill to swallow sometimes because we haven't gotten it done. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:02 you knock enough at the door, it's going to open. some point and that's just a what we have to keep doing is keep knocking on that door and giving ourselves chances to be in that situation again the thing that worries me the most when you go look at the old joe montana playoff clips those are a lot of home games when you look at a lot of tom brady playoff moments that snow game it's in foxborough what worries me is that ESPN last week ranked the teams in terms of talent 25 and younger number one was New England in Buffalo's division.
Starting point is 00:21:38 They already won two more games than Buffalo last year with a bunch of kids. So are you going to be playing road playoff games? Ask Tom Brady about playing road playoff games at Denver. It never worked out well. So a lot of this, a lot of those nine are highlights with Joe Montana, those playoff highlights, they were at home. A lot of Brady's at home. So that's what worries me.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Not that the windows closed that New England now has the better. coach, a elite quarterback, a great owner, lots of historic momentum and success, that and a lot more good young players. Buffalo right now is ranked 29th in terms of talent, 25 and under. And you can blame the GM, but some of it becomes you're not paying Drake May and you're paying Josh Allen a lot. And you've got to move off really good players. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays and noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.
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Starting point is 00:23:05 My loyalties lie with no party, only with what I think is good and right and fair. So when Democrats are messing up, I say it. When Republicans are messing up, I say it. I'm S.E. Cup, a journalist and political commentator. And on my podcast, Off the Cup, I help you make sense of the often nonsensical news. I do this on cable news too, but on my podcast, I can really let loose and be my honest, unfiltered self. Sometimes I still can't believe we keep electing men to run the country. Yeah, here we are.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Each week, you'll get my hot takes on the news and insider knowledge and insights from my smart friends and colleagues. I think our politics has shifted away from left versus right. The new paradigm that drives our politics is front versus back. People who feel like they're stuck at the back of the line versus everyone they see in front of them, keeping them at the back of the line. Come, find some sanity in the weekly news. news. Listen to Off the Cup on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Munges shit together and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive.
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Starting point is 00:24:54 I'd say probably start bones smashing. That doesn't work. To make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive How to Live Forever on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:25:25 then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury and it's as good as Timothy Chamalais as Bob Dylan and I say that with love and respect
Starting point is 00:25:41 for both of those actors and I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out I don't know if it's 5, 6 for Best Actor 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Listen to I Am Rap Report on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or where you get your podcast. Boy, he's been at the Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, Seahawks, Broncos camp. Albert Breer now joining us live at the Texans training camp, which is in Houston, and I'm sure in August it's just charming. Okay. I want to ask you about this. I want to ask you about the Cowboys camp, not just because they're the Cowboys. But I do, I said when the Micah Parsons trade came down,
Starting point is 00:26:34 I said, Jerry's a dealmaker. Dealmakers like flexibility. If they sign Micah, they've got no flexibility. I get the trade. Today, I'd say they won it based on Micah's health. We'll see. But you went to camp. There's Caleb Downs.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The D-line overshone now is healthy. What was the vibe with Cowboy Camp? So I'd say like the one thing that you, that's unmistakable is, like everybody talks how good the makeup of the team is, right? And so Brian Schott and Imer said how he wanted to have the best culture in sports. Well, you look at the guys they brought in. Quentin Williams was a captain with the Jets. Kenny Clark was a captain with the Packers.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Jalen Thompson was the captain with the Cardinals. The makeup of the team, they feel like has gotten really, really good. Additionally, they think the offense has a chance to break franchise records to be one of the best, if not the best offense in the league. And so that leaves the defense. New defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, coming over from Philly. like you said, Caleb Downs and Jalen Thompson now at safety. The D-Lines got some moving pieces.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams were added on the fly last year. So now you get to sink your teeth into those guys where Sean Gary comes over from Green Bay. So I actually have this conversation. I'm in Houston now. You know, I had this conversation with some of the guys with the Cowboys where it's like they almost view themselves as the reverse of the Texans. You know what I mean? Like where it's like if we can just be pretty good on defense, our offense is. good enough to carry us. So I think that's where they're at. I think the other thing you got to
Starting point is 00:28:06 watch their call, and they do have to stay healthy because I think depth is a few spots for them. But as far as just the front line guys, they feel really good about where they're at. Well, you said Aaron Donald's coming back to the Rams between, it's just insane. McDuffie, Miles Garrett Young, Braden Fiske, Kobe Turner, Puna Ford was a number right and redded nose tackle. I said this earlier. We listed their top 10. players and I'm like, I mean, they, they were number one. I mean, I have Miles Garrett one, Cucca, Trent. You get down to 10 and it's like, well, Kobe Turner was a top six defense.
Starting point is 00:28:42 He outplayed Chris Jones last year. I mean, it sounds like Aaron Donald is kind of a done deal. He's communicating daily with McVeigh. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I don't think it'll happen before they break camp at Loyal and Merrimount, but I believe that was the fifth.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I think that they go back maybe in a couple days. And I think after that next week, I think all of this is in play. I do think he's coming back. He and McVeigh are very close. There's been a constant open line of communication there. And they've actually come up with a plan for what it's going to look like if and when he does come back. And what's really kind of given in an interesting way, Colin, what's given them the framework for that is the holdouts in 2017 and 2018. Now, you remember, he reported to Cam.
Starting point is 00:29:30 very late both years, both years he won defensive player of the year. So they have a way to do this. Now it's not the same. Of course, he's 35 now. He's, you know, obviously spent two years away from football. But they feel like they've got a good plan. And I think the other piece of this is like what you just, the names you just rattled off, you know, Kobe Turner, Braden Fiske, Puna Ford, Tyler Davis, they really like. They've got all these interior defensive linemen. They don't need to play him 60 place a game, you know? So they're going to have. a way of managing him that isn't going to cost the team. You know, I kind of take it back to like the Eric Weddle situation a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:09 He was there because they needed him to be there. And he played every snap because the Rams needed him to play every snap. I don't think that's going to be the case with Aaron Donald in 2026. If you look at the history of the NFL, you win Super Bowls when you have a majority of your best players either in their prime or getting close to it. That's the Rams this year. That was the great Seahawk teams. it's hard to win when you're old.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And you've been at Kansas City camp. Listen, Kelsey's probably got a year left. They let McDuffie go. Chris Jones' best years, probably behind him. Mahomes will be fine, but he's off a major injury. Again, they've got, they let Joe Tuny go. And I look at Kansas City, and I think they'll smart their way and quarterback and coach their way to a wildcard spot.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But you are there. I just, I look at these top teams. like Seattle and Philadelphia and Detroit. And I don't think the chiefs have that kind of personnel. Do you? Here's what they have to do. They have to do what they did three or four years ago. And you remember when they traded Tyree Kill, right?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like what happened in the aftermath? Creed Humphrey developed. Trey Smith developed on the defensive side of the ball. Nick Bolton, George Carloftus, McDuffie himself, right? Like they used the picks to get young players in. And then they did an outstanding job developing those young guys. and a lot of those young guys big pieces of the puzzle, right?
Starting point is 00:31:32 So they need to have that happen again. And in a lot of ways, they're running back what they did in trading Tyreek and trading McDuffie now and that, okay, we can't keep everybody, what we can do is continue to flood the team with young talent. And so, you know, I can give you some names,
Starting point is 00:31:47 Josh Simmons at left tackle. What does he look like? Iris Allen, after the fifth round, they think he's got like some Stefan Diggs type qualities on defense. Mansour Delane. Like, what does he look like?
Starting point is 00:31:58 corner. Just think like that's really what it's going to boil down to. I think at baseline when you've got a quarterback like Mahomes, you should expect to make the playoffs, like you said, right? Whether or not they can elevate to the point they've been over the course of the last eight years, which is Super Bowl contender, I think really rise on their development of all those young guys. And if they can develop them the same way they developed the guys three or four years ago,
Starting point is 00:32:23 then they'll have something. So, you know, it's interesting. The Seattle Seahawks are one of the, those organizations that have mostly been very well run for 15 to 18 years. As long as John Snyder's been in that front office, they draft well, they're smart, they acquire well. He and Pete had some fissures, it moved on. Then they go get another great coach. I mean, just think of the coaches, Holmgren, Mike McDonald, Pete. And the Pete thing got sideways. But I mean, they lose Kenneth Walker, who had durability issues, great player. They go with this Notre Dame kid who apparently is
Starting point is 00:32:56 wowing everybody at camp and they lose a corner here. But it should be noted that when we watched them play the Seahawks last year, most of the players who were great return. And it's almost like, well, Sam got a little lucky. And I'm like, guys, their roster and they had, in my opinion, another good draft, despite drafting at the end of rounds, you were at the Seahawk camp. What was the energy like? the talent looks like outrageous and i'll give you like my anecdote right which is i'm like walking
Starting point is 00:33:31 over to the corner of the field and there are the defensive ends working on the blocking sled there with ad der day the defensive coordinator running the drill and all i can think about is they just lost boy amoffe who got 20 million dollars a year in cincinnati so that's a significant piece and then you look at who they have out there and it's in general wosu demarcus lawrence call Dante Fowler. They're four deep and they just lost a $20 million player there, you know? So, like, I think the infrastructure is rock solid. I don't think Sam gets enough credit for doing what he did in back-to-back heaters with different teams. Like, it's really rare to see a quarterback do that. I think he takes a step. And I, you know what I love about their off-season? This is going to
Starting point is 00:34:14 sound funny to you, but I like when GMs sometimes operate, like, in a way where you could explain it to an eight-year-old. You know what I mean? Like, and if you look at the guys they lost, right? So they lose Kenneth Walker. They draft a running back to Derry and Price in the first round. They lose a safety, Kobe Bryant to Chicago. They draft Bud Clark a safety in the second round. They lose Rick Woll in a corner. They draft a corner, Julian Neal, in the third round.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So it's like, it's very logical. And I think there's a common sense thing to the way that they put that team together. And, you know, I think the big question is going to be like, can Brian Fleury be what Clint Kubiak was as the O.C.? Like that to me would be like, oh. but I look across that practice field and I see a lot of questions that have already been in. All right. Well, if you go to the Bears camp on Sunday, text me, I'll show up and we'll hang out. I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:35:06 All right. I'm committing right now on the Bears camp. Not that far from my house. Albert Berg, good seeing you. All right. Thanks, Colin. Middle of coffee, you're missing out. Your Bears have invited me up to camp.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I think Sunday is the day. I can see you. roam in the sideline giving Caleb and Ben Johnson some fistpounds? Just like when I go to USC practice, I bring a notepad, make sure the coach gets a little look at some of my secret quotients here and potions and all my like numbers and stuff. And I'm a little bit weird on that. But, you know, a little suggestion here or there for Ben Johnson.
Starting point is 00:35:40 What's wrong with that? Yeah, and I can also see you just wearing out Ryan Poles with some future, you know, guys in college. You get about 17 names for him to keep an eye on. About six guys at USC, you know, I mean, he's... Poor Ryan. polls, probably running around, hiding from me in the camp because I've got another USC defensive tackle I tell him to keep his eye on. All right. I've been good stuff today. Good, Albert Breer.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah, it's, you know, it's, we generally, we talk about teams that are well run and what organizations are well run. Like Seattle has gone. Homegren, Pete Carroll, Mike McDonald, had great ownership now, have new ownership now, but go look at the price tag. Like, think about this. How many organizations in the NFL can you say, GM coach top three in the league for the next decade? Mike McDonald's McVeigh on defense. John Snyder is still reasonably young. I mean, think about this. Donald's still, what is Donald?
Starting point is 00:36:38 28 years old? I mean, GM coach quarterback. Tell me organizations that have three guys in their prime that are top of the class. And I know all you guys think, Donald's the 18th best quarterback in the league. I'm going to tell you right now he's not. So I think Seattle is one of those incredibly well-run operations that doesn't give a ton, doesn't get a ton of national respect, and I think they're very well-run.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I'll tell you this, Hard Knocks, Colin, can put together a montage of Sam looking like Elway. I mean, he's just like, geez, this guy's slinging this thing around. You need to watch Hard Knocks. It's just a darnled montage of throws. Oh, my God. Tonight's done. Sorry, Ann, I'm not going out. 150 years ago, they were hunting us down to kill us,
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