The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for 12/12/2019

Episode Date: December 12, 2019

Colin thinks the Cowboys should go after Nick Saban to be their next head coach and Nick Saban would be crazy not to listen. He thinks loyalty as a sports fan is dumb and explains why. Former #1 pick and NFL Network Analyst David Carr comes in studio to talk about the best QB coming out of college this season and why Lamar is great but might not be sustainable. Plus, Colin uses the process of elimination to determine where Tom Brady will play next season and it would make people very mad. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ravens Jets. Joy Taylor is joining me. Joy, how are you? I'm great. Historic night tonight, we think, at least. Yeah, Lamar Jackson picks up the record. They'll get a big lead on the Jets, maybe sit him down. I don't think it's the worst idea. You got your division wrapped up. I think Baltimore may sit Lamar down week 17, right? I mean, if they have the division locked up, they should give them some rest. Yeah, I think they may have the game locked up, nine minutes in tonight, get into that later. I read an article this morning.

We're getting a lot of these articles now about who should replace Jason Garrett as the head coach since the owner is talking about it. I'll speculate on it. And I get all these names and I get all these college guys. And I think these college guys are very, very interesting. And I really, really do. But why are we not mentioning

the best college coach of all time and he's still coaching and he still dominates mostly the toughest division in college football Nick Sabin? Now, I know what you're saying, Colin. is older. Not everybody ages the same. HBO's had this special on the art of coaching, Belichick and Sabin. And if you've watched any of this, it's crack for football fans. But the first thing you take away is Saban feels much younger than Belichick, his energy, his enthusiasm, just the way when you look at him, he looks very young. There's a moment in the art of coaching

on HBO when Sabin's joking with some of his college players because he runs out to practice. And I'm the only one to ran down here. I'm the only one to ran down here. I get Medicaid in October. I get Medicaid. How old are you? 22? I look 22 and you look 65.

I mean, just based on body hang. So it's very funny. And when you watch this special on HBO, Saban's got incredible energy. These are just numbers. I mean, Brady's 42. LeBron's in his 17th year. We see it happen with athletes who have to work out. A 67-year-old coach, a 68-year-old coach.

a 68-year-old coach. Everybody's younger today if you take care of yourself. There's five reasons that are obvious why Jerry should call him and Nick should listen. Number one, Lane Kiffin's now in the SEC. As good a recruiter as anybody in the country. So is Ed Orgeron, maybe the second best recruiter in the country. So is Kirby Smart. Maybe the third best recruiter in the country.

It's getting real competitive in the SEC. Bama doesn't have the players they used to on defense. You got the best recruiters in the country. going up against Nick Saban. And college football increasingly is a young man's game, the transfer portal, all this stuff. That's number one. Number two is what does the NFL not have? A transfer portal, year-round recruiting.

Again, college football is wearing out coaches like it's never done. NFL now, you control your inventory more so than college. It used to be the college coach. He controlled the kids. Those days are over. Your backup quarterback can transfer tomorrow. There's nothing you can do about it. your left tackle, your best linebacker.

In the NFL, I got guys under contract. Number three, Dallas is not a rebuild. This is not an exhaustive rebuild. Like when Jimmy Johnson and Jerry started the Cowboys and worked 20 hours a day, Dallas has the personnel, Dallas has the ownership, Dallas has the infrastructure. This roster is not the lions or the dolphins. It's not a rebuild.

Number four, when you look at any company, can you add something? to their weakness. Nick Saban's one of the smartest defensive coaches ever, and Dallas is not well-coached on defense. He will have an immediate impact on the defensive side of the football. He's not taken over for Tomlin and Pittsburgh or Belichick in New England, where the defense is already really well-coached. The defense, there's players there that don't have the coaching. And number five is, it's a perfect entry point. Dallas could be with all these players under 500. I mean, you never want to replace Howard Stern. You know, you want to replace Howard Stern. You know, you want to replace somebody where you look at the numbers and go, oh, I can double those numbers.

All these things add up. It's not a rebuild. College football is now a young man's game. The best recruiters are all moving in the Lane's neighborhood in the SEC. He would upgrade the defense immediately. Remember, Jerry has already gone to the college ranks, but he's not only gone to the college ranks, Jerry hired a retired college coach, Barry Switzer. He'd been out of the sport for years. Nick Sabin's 68. But when you watch LeBron and his 17th year and Brady and Breeze. We're asking those guys to be elite athletes against 23-year-olds, and they're dominating. You can't ask a 68-year-old, intellectually nimble, high-energy guy to coach against 58-year-olds?

College football is becoming a young man's game. The NFL is an old coach's game. Mike Tomlin's got some gray hair. Belichick, Sean Payton, John Harbaugh. You start, Andy Reid, these guys, Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's older than Nick Saban. I mean, come on. The NFL is now an old guy's game with the wisdom and the experience.

As long as you're willing to evolve, you just out. I mean, do you really trust Matt LaFleur, the Green Bay Packers going up against Pete Carroll? Do you really trust him? I don't. I don't trust him against Mike Zimmer of the Vikings. If you list the top 10 coaches in the NFL, eight or old guys, you list the top 10 coaches in college football. Boy, it's a lot of Matt rules. It's a lot of Lincoln Riley's.

It's a lot of Dan Mullins. It's a lot of Kirby's smarts. It's Davos Swint. Not that old. I think Cowboys have to call him. I think Nick needs to listen. I mean, Nick could go and do TV and make a bunch of money, but Nick likes stature. What's the number one stature job in American sports?

Nick likes stature. He doesn't need the money. Nick likes money. He's got his Mercedes dealership. Nick likes money, but what he really likes it all. He likes doing this thing with Belich. And the NFL is the only hole in the United States. Nick Saban's resume. That is it. I mean, other than that, he's a, you know, he is the coach.

He's the best college coach ever. Never forget, if one doctor cleared Drew Brees for the Miami Dolphins, Nick Saban doesn't go to Bama, he stays in the NFL and wins there. Let me shift to this. A very nice moment last night in Canada from Canadians. Not shocking. These are nice, reasonably minded people. Kawhi Leonard came there for a year. One of a time. title left, could have chosen the Raptors. Instead, he wanted to choose his home state, California. He comes back last night. Clippers dominate the Raptors, but it was before the game. That was really special. Here it is. That is very nice, and that's what Toronto should have done. He was traded there. It wasn't his first choice. He never promised he'd stay. First two weeks in

Canada, he said it's really cold here. So you should have cheered him. He delivered. But you know what Kawhi Leonard was, it's a reminder that sports is not a 401k. You can dip into it all the time. You can dip into your future. Kawhi Leonard was the best rental ever. And there are some things in life, like jet skis, bowling shoes, you're better off renting.

Ryan Tannahill, why get married, date, franchise tag, let him go. You know what Ryan Tannahill is? Nick Foles, you rented him, you won a Super Bowl. 49ers once did this with Dion Sanders. Come play for a year. Thanks for guarding Michael Irvin or whoevs. We won a Super Bowl trophy. Not everything has to be a 401k.

People say, Lamar Jackson may not last. What if it's four years and you win a Super Bowl? I'm good. I'll draft the next Lamar. Not everything. I ski a lot. That's my hobby. I've never owned skis.

Why? You go to a ski resort and they have the best rentals. And have you ever, you want to see the most miserable people in America at an airport. It's a family with ski equipment. Those are the most miserable looking people in America. I just go to the ski resort. What are your best rentals? Even if I crash, I don't have to pay for them. I buy insurance. Not everything has to be owned. There's a lot of things to rent. I bought a boat one time. Hour later, I'm like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life. Why can I rent a boat three times a year? So that's what I do. I crash it.

I have insurance. Somebody else pays. What's the point? he was a rental. Toronto's not a place that gets free agents. Let's be honest, even if you got the best draft pick, unless his name is Kobe or LeBron, there's no guarantee you're going to win championships. A lot of these places in sports, they're building for the future,

and it's always long term, and we can't dip into the... If you're Toronto, Canada, rent players. Not getting them forever. Most of the guys don't want to go up there. It's Canada, the taxes, it's cold. I mean, even Steve Nash. Turned down Toronto in Canada.

So good for them. I like the way they acted. I think Kauai is the best rental ever. I mean, you can buy your own scuba gear and, you know, walk around the globe with that oxygen tank on the back of that plane on a delta. Why don't you just rent gear? Just go to Aruba. Just rent your scuba gear.

No reason to buy it. They got good stuff. Their oxygen tanks work too. Oxygen tanks all over the globe. Happy the way Toronto treated him. and I'm happy that Toronto rolled the dice because they're not a franchise that's going to land free agents.

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He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too Steve Nash will get that thing, that man, hell get the flying, he running up the court, licking his fingers

why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's an article in the

Washington Post, very fine newspaper. They do Big J. Journalism. And it takes some guts to write this in the Washington, D.C. area. So when I grew up as a kid, the Redskins were really, they felt as popular as the Cowboys. They probably weren't, but they had George Allen, the nation's capital, the President, Richard Nixon liked them. So I grew up, you know, the Redskins were huge. They were huge. And it was like the Steelers, the Raiders, the Redskins, the Cowboys.

They were the biggest brands in the league. The Packers, and when I was a kid, stunk. You know, Bart Star was long gone. The Packers were not a big. brand. The Saints were terrible. The Vikings couldn't win the big games. So the article in the Washington Post says that many Redskin fans tired of how the franchises run are becoming Raven fans, especially young fans. Now, millennials, according to research, and this is how millennials think, tend to like the athlete more than the team. They like LeBron more than the Lakers.

That's different than how I grew up, but I get it. I find myself rooting for the Jets because I like Sam Narnold. I'm watching the Ravens now because I like Lamar Jackson. So I got a little millennial in me. Like there are times I'm like, you know, like golf. I don't care about the Masters. I care about is Tiger playing well at the Masters? Is Mickelson playing well at the Masters? So in golf and tennis, I like watching Nadal and Roger Federer or Serena. So a lot of times I like the athlete more than I like the team. But the article is interesting because what I'm going to say 99% of you will probably disagree, I bail on any product that doesn't treat me well. restaurant, airline.

I'm Delta now. I didn't used to be. I bailed on another airline. I bail on employers who don't treat me well. I bail on restaurants, airlines, anything that doesn't treat me well. I'm loyal to the product and the result. I'm not loyal to laundry. I'm not loyal to a blazer.

You know, if you worked at CBS Sports and you wore that blazer, are you loyal to the blazer? Are you loyal to your wife and your kids and your family and how you're treated? You have very little power as fans. Your power is actually distilled down to one thing with holding your money. Billionaires like money. Don't go. Switch sides.

My a Raven sweatshirt. I'm not telling you to do that. I'm saying I've never understood people who are loyal to anything other than a product and a result. If you had a diner in the neighborhood, they had health violations. They sold it to a new guy. the staff which was endearing and warm and excellent left and went across the street to another diner, where are you going to eat tomorrow? Well, it represents my city.

I'm a true fan. And what does that get you? Does it pay for your kids' education? Does it benefit your long-term financial or physical well-being? You do realize, as a true fan, if I walked into your city and paid double what you did for a ticket, the owner would give me a free sweatshirt and a better seat. You're a number. and the numbers a hundi.

You're a dollar sign. So the more you spend for tickets, the better that owner treats you. True fan doesn't mean anything, except for the fact that if enough of you true fans leave, then Dan Snyder wouldn't have Bruce Allen as a GM and wouldn't draft a quarterback because his son went to school with him.

I don't understand fans. I got nothing against Dan Snyder. But he has not been good. He drafted a quarterback because his son went to high school with him who doesn't appear to be ready for the NFL. They have a GM who he's friends with, but nobody considers elite. They've made decisions that don't help the fan. It's deteriorating.

Maybe they turn it around. Maybe Dwayne Haskins, you know, becomes much better than I think he's capable of. But in the end, if you got Lamar Jackson across the street and the Ravens got the better owner and the GM and the coach and the front office and they're more exciting, and it's Lamar Jackson, and they win a bunch, and their division's fascinating. Why wouldn't you go to the diner across the street? I've never, ever understood it.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. HBO's got a show The Art of Coaching. It's terrific. It's got Saban and Belichick. And there was this, I could have run five minutes of this on the air, but we have limitations on how much we can run from other networks. But there was a moment when they, it's really fun. They have so much respect for each other.

And you got the, you know, Belichick is kind of mumbling stuff and he's kind of laughing. I think Belichick's wildly entertained by Sabin. I think he makes him laugh. And Sabin's very funny. He's a recruiter. So Nick has to go out in the road and recruit all the time. So Nick, he's doing commercials. Nick's funny.

If you ever been around, Nick, I have a couple times. Nick's funny. Belichick, I've not been around. I saw him one time. I ran up to him with a couple plays. But the whole point is the art of coaching on HBO is great. And here's something they touched on last night. Good players can't overcome bad coaching.

And with bad coaching, like we had last year in the Miami game, where we couldn't play defense for seven seconds, I don't care how good the players are. Bad coaching, they can't overcome it. That's a bad feeling. You never want to let your team down. But I after the game feeling like I didn't do a good enough job as a coach. He was talking about how they had gronk in as the deep safety.

And gronk, you know, is obviously not going to outrun a pitch guy on the last play of the game. and they also show the Nick Saban-Auburn Alabama loss on the field goal, which is just unbelievable, depending on what side of the fence you're on, great or daunting. But it's interesting because there's two teams in the NFL where we know they have good players, the Chargers and the Cowboys, and they don't have winning records. So I think in both instances, you really have to inspect coaching. I think it's fair to ask questions about Anthony Lynn, although I think situationally it's more often the fault of their kicking in Philip Rivers last several years.

and I think you have to inspect Jason Garrett. But I'm also a big believer in you have to find common threads to spot problems. If you look at Dallas's five worst offensive games, they've come against New England, New Orleans, the Jets, the Bills, and the Bears. All five of those have veteran defensive coordinators. Those are not the five best defenses they've played. They're not. The Jets aren't. They're not the five most talented defenses they've played.

But they are arguably the five best coached defenses. they play. And Kellyn Moore, 31 years old, only been a coach, a quarterback coach for one year, gets pushed into the offensive coordinator role. And I think he's a little over his skis when they face elite defensive staffs. So this, you know, Belichick said it last night. Good players just can't overcome bad or average coaching. And, you know, I think this is nothing against Callen Moore. But this league has got so many Pete Carrolls, Belichick, you know, Mike Tomlin, these guys have been toiling in the trenches for 30 years on defense, new concepts, old concepts, close games. And I think Dallas and those five games against Chuck Pagano, Dennis Allen, Belichick, Greg Williams, they've been exposed.

They're not good. And they're both losing close. The Chargers lose close and Dallas loses close. Now, again, I think in the Chargers case, a lot of times it feels like some bad situational football, sometimes by Philip Rivers. where I don't, Dax got, Dallas, there's the only time in Dallas history. They have a 4,000-yard quarterback, a thousand-yard rusher, and a thousand-yard receiver, and they're six and seven. So I think it's really fair in Dallas and the Chargers. You have to start with, what are we doing to lose close situational games with all our talent?

I think in Dallas, it could be just as much Callan Moore as Jason Garrett. I know nobody wants to hear that, but I keep going back to Dallas. Every time they face an elite defensive coordinator, they get duped. They just can't move the ball situationally. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Hurd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. David Carr, NFL Network, former number one pick played in the NFL for 12 NFL seasons. Super bright guy. We love having you on. Your brother, of course, is Derek Carr with the Raiders.

So let's just start with that. First of all, I thought they'd be atrocious. They were really good. I do think they found their legs early, which considering the chaos was and easy. And then I think over time, they're young. They're really offensively, they're pretty close. Defensively, they're not. Let's go back. I mean, because I think overall you'd have to look at the Raiders season today and say

pretty good. You've got to be mostly happy, right? Look, man, if you look big picture, which John Gruden, that's what he's doing. He's 10-year contract. He's not going anywhere. So he's looking big picture this whole time, and he's had a pretty good outlook on this thing. I remember talking to him in training camp, the first week of training camp, and Antonio Brown was still going through his thing. Like is like is he going to be here? He's going to practice. And he was like, Dave, I haven't seen him practice. He's been out here two or three times. But I got to change my entire playbook if he's not going to be because every play is supposed to go to 84. That's literally what he said to me. I'm like, okay, well, what are you going to do if he if he doesn't? He's like, we'll just have to figure it out. And he did. To his credit, John figured it out. And he took three tight ends. Put him out there. Josh Jacobs started running the ball really well. Darren Waller, the tight end turned out to be a pretty good player. And they actually gave him a contract halfway through the season because he's he's a guy that Derek.

really trust. And so they developed an identity on offense that you can kind of say, okay, they're going to be okay. And then they overperformed. They won a couple of games. They probably shouldn't have. But they played excellent football. Their defense was still young. You got Max Crosby out there. You got Farrell out there trying to make some plays. You know, Jonathan Abram played half of a football game and knocked himself out. So like there's been some things that they've had to kind of work through on the defensive side. But, you know, I thought they've did a good job. And to this point, to be where they are, I mean, that's probably probably a little bit better than most people thought they would be.

Yeah, I mean, if you had said before the season, Raiders, with their stuff, 500, I think some people would have taken that. I would agree. Yeah, not the team, obviously. The team's like, no, no, we want to win the Super Bowl, which everyone does. But you feel realistic about where they were with all the youth on the defensive side and what they were trying to do on offense as far as reinventing themselves in August. I mean, that's pretty good.

So I want to get into something. I don't think everything new works, but I don't want to be old guy and rigid guy and brittle guy. So when I see cultural changes, like I just. jump in. I think that analytics can be fun. And I do think college football now is running the spread. Offensive lines are now worse, virtually impossible to rebuild them quickly. And so I do think having a quarterback that can move, it's not an either-or. Daniel Jones is about as less athletic as I want. I mostly want a guy with good feet. Your brother's not a runner, but he's got good feet. He can move. So I do think, I don't think necessarily Lamar per se is the future because he's an outlier.

I agree. But I do think mobile quarterbacks, it's not a fad, right? Like, I think it's not a fad. I don't think so. I think that you have to just, as a franchise, you have to understand that if you do that, if you go that route, you're not going to have a 15-year career. We'll just look at Cam Newton.

He was one of the best to ever do it running the football from the quarterback position. And he's like right around 30 years old, and he might be done. He's an old 30. He's an old 30. And can he still even do some of the things that made him an MVP candidate as far as running the football? So if you go down that road, I think that it's interesting because the NFL, there's only a number of teams that have an elite quarterback. And if you're going to be just a pocket guy, you have to be extremely accurate, throw with great anticipation, know what the defense

is doing before they even line up. Before the defense, according to even calls the play, you've got to know what defense they're going to be in. And guys like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, there's guys that can do that, but not everyone has that guy. So if you, if you're not in that situation, then why not level the playing field and find a guy like Lamar? Now, I'm not saying there's guys like that all over the country, but you can design an offense much like Greg Roman has designed and utilize. Greg Roman was my. quarterback coach in Houston. And he wanted to put quarterback runs in from the jump.

He came into the building and he was sitting there and he's like, I got some great ideas. You know, we'll use you on third down and actually level the playing field because a lot of times when a quarterback and a traditional offense hands the football off, we got the best seat in the house. We just sit back and watch the running back run.

We're like a fan. We're like, oh, a great run. You know, and you kind of, that extra guy is always coming down in the box, always causing fits in the run game. But as soon as you have a quarterback that can now run the zone read or you utilize them in actual quarterback design runs,

the defense doesn't have the advantage anymore. Gone is the Bill Belichick's schematic advantage. It's no longer there. Think about the teams that the Patriots have lost to you, mobile quarterbacks, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson, because the coaching aspect. It eliminates some of that. It becomes a little flag football.

A little bit, right? And so teams will eventually work on it and figure it out and they'll get an offseason to kind of say, okay, this is what they do. No, that's David Carr joining us. Buffalo did something that I think, think you liked. I loved it. I've been I've been waiting for teams to come out and just challenge them, play zero. Tell people what zero is. So zero is basically man coverage across the board and you put

that extra guy down in the box. He's no longer back playing free safety watching the past. He's responsible for the quarterback and they had great success. And what it made Lamar do and made the ravens do is it forced them to make throws down the field. Now he did. He hit Hayden Hurst on a big touchdown that eventually won the football game for him. But honestly, when you look at it, Would you rather do that or would you rather let them have the ball for 40 minutes a game? That to me is just a morale killer. I completely agree. You've been in games and you're watching it from the sidelines.

And there's nothing you can do. And we've heard it said before. It's like what's the best thing to do against a good quarterback? You keep them on the sideline. These guys are the epitome of keeping guys on the sideline. And they have the best quarterback in the game right now as far as what they're doing on offense. So it really is a morale killer. And when you watch them take the ball at the beginning of the games,

like I watched them in the Coliseum the other day against the Rams. They just marched down the field and score. it's like, oh, well, there it is. And then eventually you walk out of the stadium in the second quarter because it's a wrap. It's over, you know? So I would rather get up challenge guys like Buffalo did. Yeah, they gave a big play. It was pretty much a blown coverage, but they were right there, man.

They had a chance. If you find a team that can play a little better offense and do that same thing schematically on defense, you might win a football game. Well, San Francisco got close, by the way. They did. Jets won't tonight. Okay, David Carr joining us. I want to talk to you about college quarterbacks because I love the position.

Yeah. I study it. I've whiffed on guys, but I think I'm most. pretty close. I think Joe Burroughs talented, but I think we're going crazy. And by the way, this happens in college basketball. If a guy has a good final

four, well, oh my guy, guys, Shabazz Napier. It's like, the guy in Europe is way until you see the seven foot of the consue threes. But we haven't seen the video. So same in the college playoff. You get down to the SEC championship.

You watch Joe Burrow and you're like, oh, my God. And I'm thinking, there's a guy at Utah State could be just as good. And he gets drafted by Carolina with way better players. So let's just talk about Joe Burrell. I like him. I don't love him. What do you see?

I mean, to me, Joe Burrough is playing great football. He's done a great job for himself, moving into the LSU, becoming an LSU tiger. I mean, he's part of that family. He's throwing the ball effectively. But I mean, if you look at him,

he's probably an above average pocket passer, right? Kurt Cousins, maybe. And that's kind of what I see. And not Kirk Cousins is number seven in the league in pastor rating right now. He's doing a good job. He won a lot of games.

going to win a lot of football games. Yeah, but I mean, is he a guy that is going to transcend the team? Is he going to take him to the next level? I don't necessarily know that. LSU is a talented football team. They're playing good football. They've changed their offense. Finally, I was waiting for LSU.

Finally, just get inventive. Do something where you can actually have. You have so many weapons. Remember when they had Odell Beckham, Jr., they had all these weapons. And they were a power run team. And they ran the football. And finally they got, you know, they grab an offense coordinator that knows what he's doing. They look good.

But for me, too, is the guy. Two is still the guy for me. Okay, let's talk. See, now. When Baker-Makeville came out, people said Drew Breeze, and I'm like, first of all, he's not as athletic as a young Drew. He's accurate, but I don't like his temperament like Drew, because I think temperament's a huge part of...

Oh, absolutely. You're kind of the governor of the state. There's things you can't say in front of a microphone. I see some Breeze with Tua. I see the accuracy. And he's a better athlete, obviously, than I think people give him credit. I mean, well, sometimes people over-exaggerate his athleticism as well. I think so.

I think Tua is a good athlete. He's a good enough athlete. He's not Dishone. want to. No, but he's, I mean, when Drew was younger, he could run around and make plays. I think Tua does the same thing, but Tua is incredibly accurate. You think about when he was a freshman, he walks into the best conference and as far as defense goes and just lit it up. It's like, are these guys even playing defense? And he was a kid right out of high school. So I love his makeup. I, you know, the thing that I heard the other day, I heard him kind of weighing his decision.

Like, oh, do I go back to Alabama? I was like, I wanted to like, someone give me his number. Please. Doa. Go in the draft. Go later. You go to a great team. Yes. Like, don't be the number one pick. Who wants to do it? that. I said I wouldn't tell, I wouldn't say it publicly, but if I had a son and he was a top prospect, and he was going to interview with the poorly run team,

I'd say, be a little standoffish. Just tell him, like, if the Chargers interview you, just be a little bit of loof. But if it's up top, it's a, it's a Washington, it's a Cincinnati, not butcher the interview, but be a little. Is this blasphemies? Can we say this? Can you just

butcher? I mean, I understand. It makes sense, though. No, I mean, I'd make sense. No, I mean, sometimes. if you don't. Well, think about, okay, think about, I remember when the Steelers, the Steelers were like, oh, they got a great team. Tommy Maddox was playing quarterback for them. They're trying to survive. I'm like, these guys are really good on defense. If they could just find a quarterback and then, oh, they're good. So they pick in the late. I remember where Ben Rothertsburgh went that year. 13th or something? Yeah, but I was like, there it is. And then I watched, we played them in the preseason. Ben's excellent. I'm like, well, here we go. And then multiple Super Bowls

later, they got their guy Aaron Rogers, same thing. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, I mean, Ben, by the way, they were very, Philip Rivers' first year in San Diego. They were very conservative, Ben, they were very conservative and let the defense win. When you look at the Dallas Cowboys, and what I try always to do, I take out the yellow notepad, and if a team has talent and they're losing, I try to find a common thread. Why are they losing? So when I look at Dallas's losses, here's what I see. Kellen Moore, quarterback coach for a year, then your coordinator.

and his losses have not come to the five best defenses, but they've come to five veteran defense of coordinators. Nailed it. That's what I see. Nailed it. You nailed it. So I think there's two things. I think situationally, Jason Garrett can be better. And he's shown that in situational, he's just been a little conservative,

and you've got to be a little aggressive. There's analytics out there that can help you do that. So I think that's one thing. But I think the other thing, and you're exactly right, these veteran coordinators have seen a lot of football. They go back, they'll watch Kellyn Moore's high school film. They'll watch what he did at Boise State. They're going to know what you did.

And so he had success early, right? Because, okay, well, what is you really going to be about? Is there going to be a little Jason Garrett? Is there going to be, okay, we got it. We know what he's all about. And now teams are starting to dial in and good defensive coordinators can dial into what he does, attack his protections, test everything that you have. And it's been a challenge for him.

Now, he's a good young coordinator. He's going to do a good job, but he's not where some of these guys are. He's a student. He's not where they are the teacher. He's not where they are right now. There's no question. And that's exactly what's happened. By the way, is your brother now is getting ready to move to Las Vegas.

So I've seen that stadium five times. I've yet to see it. Oh, it's great. I'm actually going to go next week and check it out. So let me ask you, as much information as you can give us. I think if I was a pro athlete, no state tax, Vegas got the best restaurants, maybe in America right now. Is the team fired up for Vegas? Well, I think that's difficult because as a player, you realize that you have a job to do.

And you talk to them even before the season or during the season. It's like, oh, we got a game. You know, so it's difficult. I think that, I think the opportunity to go to Vegas is really awesome for the NFL. I mean, it's tough to leave Oakland. I think that if they could have made that work, and obviously that would have been. You never want to leave. You don't want to leave.

But, I mean, if you look at the alternative, I think that Vegas is going to be really interesting. So do I. You know what I keep thinking? I keep thinking, David, that if you look at the division they're in, Denver, it's December. Around Christmas, you play the Raiders. Let's take our family to Vegas. Kansas City's weather is dreadful in the winter.

There's a lot of these AFC teams that go face the Raiders. Buffalo, Sinci, what roadie are you going to do? You know what? Actually, the only problem that I have with it is you're talking about bringing the opponent's fans now to Vegas. So like, what's the dynamic going to be in the stadium? Like, is it going to be like what the Chargers face? Like, that's what I'm curious to see. No, it's a fair point.

I always thought the Raiders are actually the most popular team in L.A. Yeah. I think the Rams are second. The Chargers are a deep third. When they play the Chargers, we'll find out in a couple weeks, but that's usually what happens. Oh, you guys come down here? I think so, yeah. Oh, boy.

All right. By the way, David's on NFL Total Access tonight following the Jets Ravens on Thursday night football. Also, the NFL 100 All-Time Team series continues tomorrow at 8 Eastern. By the way, the all-time team is fascinating. We were talking here off the air. We didn't really do a bit with it. you know, who's the best player. I think it's unfair because quarterbacks have an advantage.

You know who may have been the most unique player I've ever seen in my life? Who's that? The late Walter Payton. Oh, he's incredible. Incredible. For anybody that's never seen Walter Payton. Just YouTube it. Kids can YouTube that stuff. It's insane.

It's insane. Remember when he got tackled? He would pull people off him? Yeah. Like he was claustrophobic. Yeah, he couldn't handle it. He did not like you on top of him. So, like, he would get tackled and he would literally like grab people and throw him off him.

Almost like he was terrified of being tackled. But that's almost how you have to run. Yeah, he was the first player as a kid because I didn't see Jim Brown. Walter Payton was the first player as a kid that literally made a horrible roster. He had one good offensive lineman, Noah Jackson, made a horrible roster compelling. Yeah, when I look at, and I didn't see Jim Brown obviously play. I saw a little bit of Walter Payton. But when I watched those two guys stand out to me as guys that just transcended the era that they were in,

they were just the best football player on the field pretty much every time they went out there. Who was the best player you were ever on the field with? Oh, man. probably Ed Reed as far as because I just didn't know where he was

he just didn't know like he's supposed to be in cover two but then he just saw something in your route concept or your drop or your guards alignment and then he would make

an excellent break on the football and it was just really hard to know where he was it makes it difficult quarterbacks like to know where all 11 guys are just make a nice little pretty picture for me

just make it cover two but then Ed's just doing this nonsense and you just don't know and he's such a good athlete you say like Belichick that's what Belich says Yeah, just line up where I want you to line up. That's why he's so irritating.

It's like, breaking the rules, man. Great seeing you again. You too, buddy. Thank you. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

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Okay. So here are the 32 teams. So he's not going to go to a team, obviously, like Green Bay, that has a legitimate franchise quarterback. So who does that eliminate? So that eliminates the Ravens, the Texans, the Chiefs, the Eagles, Green Bay, as you said, Falcons, Seahawks, and Rams. Okay. He's not going to go at his age, and he's not hyper-athletic.

He's not going to a team with a bottom 10 offensive line. Offensive lines are hard to turn around in one draft. There's so many bad ones, everybody's trying to fix that. There's about seven good offensive line in a draft, maybe eight, and the free agent market slim picking. So take the bottom 10 offensive lines, PFF, get rid of them. Who does that eliminate? The dolphins, the jets, the bangles, chargers, redskins, Vikings, and Panthers. Okay.

He's also lived in this bubble for the last two or three years where he simply doesn't have enough weapons. He wants to go somewhere that has weapons, preferably illegituary. legit tight end, a couple receivers, a nice back. So takeaway teams that have below average weapons. Patriots, the bills, Titans, Jags, Raiders, Broncos, excuse me, and the Cardinals. Okay. Now, when you have Belichick, okay, you're not going to go to a team with a coach that's never won a division or not currently leading a division. So let's, listen, either you got to have won a division or you're current let's say you're a good young coach you're like Kyle Shanahan you know it's currently leading a division he hasn't won it so let's let's just get rid of coaches who have

never won a division and are currently leading a division well there's only 10 teams left so that eliminates the Browns Colts Giants and Lions and finally he's not going to a small market this is the biggest brand in the NFL easily get rid of small markets okay so that's That cuts the bucks and the saints. What's left? What's left is the Steelers, the Cowboys, the Bears, and the 49ers. The Steelers have Big Ben, the Niners have Garoppolo. The Bears have their head coach.

My prediction is Josh McDaniels joins him Tom Brady to the Dallas Cowboys. What? John Goulet, your reaction? I don't think this is even fair to tease me with something like that. Yeah, that's mean. I'd have to move to Dallas. Can I see the picture of Tom Brady wearing a cowboy uniform one more time for the audience? Oh, my God.

Let me see. Let's look at this just one more time, guys. Oh, Lord. Look at that. That looks right. It actually does. That looks right. Whitlock, before you count those Chief Super Bowls, look at that picture right there.

Tom Brady in a cowboy uniform. I don't hate it, actually. I root for chaos, and that would, I mean, people's heads would explode. What do they say? The internet would explode. It would break the internet, yes. And all we eliminated was teams that have a franchise stud, bottom 10-0 lines, you got to have legit weapons, coach has to a won a division or currently leading it.

He's not going to a tiny market. You get four teams left. Steelers have Big Ben for three more years. Jimmy Garoppolo's going nowhere. It's Chicago or New York. and I believe. Or a Cowboys, yeah. Yeah.

Tom's not going there by himself. He's taking Josh McDaniels, and the Bears already have a great young coach. Josh McDaniels. So he's going to leave, and he's going to take Josh McDaniels. Absolutely. There's no question.

In my mind, they're close. Wouldn't Patriots fans just freak out? That's not his problem anymore. That's a you problem. And by the way, wouldn't that be kind of, so you'd lose Brian Flores to the dolphins? Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kind of stick it to Bill a little bit.

That's one way to end. a friendship. That relationship. That would be crazy. It's not the nuttyest thing, though. Process. No, I mean, like, it would be crazy. Because I think Tom's not going to go.

It's possible. Tom's not going anywhere by himself. He's going to go somewhere. And Josh is, if you watch Tom versus Time, he was on the phone with McDaniels all summer long, not Belichick. So he's going to take somebody with him. Well, you can't take Gronk.

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