The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Aug 20, 2019
Episode Date: August 20, 2019Baker Mayfield says the only thing that matters is winning so Colin points out that in the NFL Baker is actually a loser. He isn't going to overreact to Jimmy Garoppolo struggling in a game he only ...took 11 snaps. Plus, Super Bowl Champion Drew Brees talks about trying to rebound from their controversial loss to the Rams in the NFC Championship and how he's been able to maintain such a high level of success so late in his career. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Good morning. Baker, Baker, Newsmaker.
Again, article in GQ magazine.
We will start there.
Third magazine expose on Baker-Mayfield in the last couple of months.
He's making news.
It's an article, you know, he's a lot of Baker here.
Here's the quote that will make the most news.
He says, I cannot blow.
leave the Giants took quarterback Daniel Jones.
Blows my mind. Some people
overthink it. That's where
people go wrong. They forget
you got to win.
Either you have a history of winning and being that
guy for your team or you don't.
So he's saying Daniel Jones didn't win
in college. He was 17
and 19. And the Giants
took a big risk on
drafting Daniel Jones according to
Baker Mayfield. So let me start with this.
Did the Cleveland
Browns not take a risk?
drafting a guy with a police video in college,
a five,
11 and a half,
two-time walk-on?
Yes, Baker, Mayfield, won in college.
That's because everybody wins at Oklahoma.
Jason White, on two bad knees,
won the Heisman.
Josh Heiple won at Oklahoma.
I think he won a national title.
So you can argue that Cleveland took a big risk
with Baker Mayfield.
I got a police video.
He comes from a program where every quarterback wins.
Even the, they've had multiple guys in the NFL drafted that have been bussed at quarterback.
I would say this about Baker, though.
Bakers made it very easy for me to evaluate him because what Baker is saying is there's
no context to winning.
Did you win, period?
By the way, Tim Tebow was 35 and 6 in college.
Colt McCoy was 45 and 8.
Kellyn Moore was 50 and 3, and A.J. McCarran was 36 and 4.
You know who didn't win in college?
Patrick Mahomes and Jared Goff and Matt Ryan.
They didn't win much in college.
But again, Baker Mayfield said it's all about winning.
There's no nuance needed, no context.
I've said before, if Baker Mayfield succeeds in Cleveland,
it will be more impressive than, let's say, Patrick Mahomes winning in Kansas City,
because Patrick Mahomes has Andy Reed.
That's a stable team.
That's good ownership.
Cleveland, not stable, not great ownership.
So winning in Cleveland, because I believe there's nuance and context to winning.
But Baker Mayfield does not.
It is all about winning.
So let's then just do it the Baker way.
Let's just talk about wins.
Baker Mayfield is 6 and 7 as an NFL quarterback.
He's a loser.
By the way, he's one in five against playoff teams.
He's a loser because there's no context to anything.
Matt Ryan played with Boston college teammates who don't go to the pros.
Tim Tebow played with 37 NFL, but there's no context to it.
Daniel Jones is a loser.
I'm a winner, Baker Mayfield.
Not to mention Daniel Jones was throwing to guys who don't get drafted by the CFL.
But there's no context.
It's just I'm a winner, right, Baker, and everybody else is a loser.
So let's go to Baker Mayfield's big wins last year in the NFL.
28 to 16 over Atlanta, missing three of their four defensive back starters, a 7-9 team.
That was a big win for him.
He did beat Cincinnati.
Oh, they finished in fourth place.
Starting quarterback got hurt during the game.
He beat Carolina.
O'Kam was hurt, and they won one game after Thanksgiving.
Oh, he did beat Denver.
They were 6 and 10.
And then he beat Cincinnati again, starting Jeff Driscoll at quarterback.
those were the wins.
No context, no nuance.
Those are the wins, right?
They won.
Baker Mayfield has won one NFL game outside of Ohio.
One.
See, because I believe winning has context.
I think it's easier to win quarterbacking Oklahoma and Florida
than it is like Jared Gough at Cal or Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech or Andrew Luck at Stanford.
See, I think there's context to it.
I do think winning in Cleveland with a GM and John Dorsey who was fired,
Jimmy Haslam, who's been chaotic, Freddie Kitchens a rookie head coach,
and the youngest roster in the NFL, and some really dramatic players,
OBJ, Sheldon Richardson.
I think that would be very impressive.
But that would be if you had nuance and context to winning,
instead of just that guy didn't win in college, I won in college.
Because you do realize Baker, Patrick Mahomes' NFL record, he's a winner.
You're a loser right now.
But he has Andy Reid.
Doesn't matter.
Patrick's a winner.
You're a loser.
Because it's all about winning.
There's no context to it.
I would just like to remind everybody, six and seven is Baker Mayfield's NFL record.
One in five.
one win outside of Ohio.
That's the winner for you.
He is some winner.
Let me shift to this.
Jimmy Garapolo had a zero-zero-zero quarterback rating last night.
He was not great.
And so this morning, people are like, whoa, this Jimmy Garoppolo thing is not great for San Francisco.
Okay, here's what I don't need with Jimmy Garoppolo.
Small sample sizes.
because that's all I have with them.
And last night, I got 11 snaps.
You ever had topas?
He's the topas of NFL quarterbacks.
Small, shareable serving sizes that we all consume.
I don't know what to make of last night.
The average NFL team averages 23 and a half points
and about five points in the first quarter.
San Francisco didn't have any.
But you have to remember with Jimmy Garoppolo,
He's coming off an ACL surgery.
Tom Brady wasn't great the year he came off the surgery.
He's played 10 games.
He's 8 and 2.
I think he's good.
His offensive line last night looked overwhelmed with Bradley Chubb
coming hard for Denver on the end.
He's coming off an injury.
The best receiver San Francisco has,
George Kittle at Tide end, didn't play.
The rest of the receivers are young and still learning the offense.
The offensive line look overwhelmed.
Vic Fangio's, one of the top defensive guys in the NFL.
He's now the head coach of Denver.
I don't know what to make of it.
Because with Jimmy Garapolo, the last thing I need is more small sample sizes.
And that is, again, what I got last night, 11 snaps.
A, he's not going to lose his starting job to a backup, so I don't really care.
And B, he's not a rookie.
This is not Kyler Murray.
Can he play at this level?
Tom Brady's had bad first quarters in Super Bowls at the end of seasons with two weeks to prepare.
Jimmy G. Off ACL, 11 snaps against a great pass rusher and a tremendous defensive coordinator without his best tight end.
Young wide receivers learning as they go, he looked rusty. Here's Jimmy G.
Obviously a little frustrated, but it's the NFL.
Unfortunately, we don't get to play the whole game right now.
So, you know, I get so many plays.
You wish you could be out there for more so you could bounce back and everything.
But, you know, it is what is the preseason right now.
So just got to take it in stride.
It's something that I haven't done in the year, obviously.
So, you know, got knocked the rust off and everything.
And, you know, thankfully we have a short week this week so we get bounced back quickly.
But, yeah, it's, you know, the first step of getting back into it.
Teams are now doing joint practices in the NFL, like that's a real thing.
And we had the GM of the Chargers on last week who's doing a joint practice.
And he said, you know, I like it.
I like the physicality.
But it's not a game.
Jimmy Garapolo hasn't played a game in a year.
I don't know what I'm supposed to make of 11 snaps.
When his offensive line looked overwhelmed, his receivers are kids, his best tight end wasn't there.
And I don't think they're showing you everything they have.
It was another small sample size.
I have 10 with the 49.
He's 8 and 2 and looked really, really good.
I'm going to go with that over the 11 snaps I saw last night.
I just don't know what to make of it.
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and then we went and got dinner and watched Chris Angel late with my son.
And two magicians in one day.
And the trick, of course, with magicians is look over here as I'm doing stuff over here.
It's, you know, optical illusions.
They're trying to make you look there as they do something there.
And I wonder, Antonio Brown, radar-wide receiver has filed a new grievance over his helmet.
And I'm just wondering, is it possible?
And this theory isn't any crazier than Antonio Brown.
is, is this just all a cover because his feet aren't right from that cryo accident?
Because the foot issue is embarrassing.
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and nobody, if you've noticed in the media, is talking about the foot issue.
Well, nobody's talking about it.
That's embarrassing.
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And Antonio Brown knows it.
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And so he suddenly has a helmet grievance, and therefore, nobody's talking about the foot.
I had his agent Drew Rosenhouse on yesterday, and I asked about the foot issue, and if he's ready to play.
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He's definitely getting there.
I think it's a matter of time until he's fully cleared in that capacity.
I would expect he'd be healthy by the end of the preseason.
Oh.
So the foot issues not solved.
So his feet aren't 100% is what his agent saying.
This feels like, you know, this feels like to me he's embarrassed about the feet until it's a helmet.
grievance. And, you know, like when NFL teams generally say, we're gathering more information,
we'll get back to you. It always feels like they're lying. I think with the Raiders here,
they're not lying. They are trying to gather more information. They can't figure out the helmet
issue. And I'm just wondering if it's the old magician's trick. I think it's tough. The Raiders have a
young roster. This is not a great look. He's not practicing with Derek Carr. The division's never
been better at the top. I don't know if he's now tradable. Forget about the Hall of Fame stuff,
which it will hurt him. They won't vote him in first time. Just the way the Hall of Fame voters are
can be very, very petty. But I think it makes John Gruden in the NFL, you never want to get
cornered. You never want to get trapped. It's always next man up because people get hurt. So that's
why New England always drafts a quarterback, even when Brady was in his prime. That's why the
L.A. Rams drafted another running back this year. You know,
You don't want to be nimble.
You don't want to be cornered.
You don't want to be trapped.
The Raiders kind of feel like now they're trapped,
and I think they are confused,
because I think A, B, is pulling a magic trick on them.
He doesn't want you to talk about the feet,
so let's talk about the helmet.
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The nation, the football media,
always talks about Tom Brady.
How is Tom Brady doing it?
And to that, my takeaway is, is anybody checked out that Drew Breeze is doing it too?
Drew Breeze is doing it in New Orleans, putting up these 5,000-yard season.
And it's pretty remarkable.
And if you look at the Saints and you look at Tom Brady and you look at New England,
these are division-winning quarterbacks, now at 40.
And all I know about Brady and his physical health and kind of obsessive detail
on his health is what I hear about Drew Breeze.
You just don't get here without being all in on your body.
And I know Drew is.
And he is joining us now via the phone, Drew Breeze,
who always comes on the show once or twice a year,
and we always appreciate that.
So I ask you this every time.
When you wake up in the morning,
you're entering your 19th NFL season.
Drew, how do you feel in camp waking up this morning?
You feel pretty good, man.
I feel like a kid again.
Do you have you changed your diet over the last 10 years, Drew, because you are doing something that only Brady's done?
You changed your diet, or is it pretty much same old for you?
You've always been this way?
I'm more conscious of it, you know, over the last five years.
I've always been fairly with my diet, mainly in regards to food allergies and that kind of thing.
That's something that I started, you know, getting the blood test and doing different things to determine
food allergies early in my career and then kind of change my diet maybe year four.
And it's stayed pretty true to that.
But I think in addition to that now, more so than ever, is just really paying attention
to also the inflammation.
You know, just help me put me in the best position when it comes to recovery.
So I think that's the thing with the aging process that becomes the most challenging
is just your ability to give up each and every day and do it again and again at the same level.
And so at that point it becomes all about recovery.
Yeah, the training is important, but the recovery is even more important.
I think that's the information that we have, and that's something I think we've become a lot better at over the years.
Drew, a lot of players on your team are mid-20s.
They don't have your life experience.
They may not have kids, be married, listen to different music.
How do you stay connected to 23-year-olds?
About the 80s, you know, and about like 90s alternative music, right?
So, you know, so when I get in the weight room, that's the stuff I turn on.
And it's, you know, it's my opportunity to teach them, you know, about Pearl Jam, right, and Nirvana,
and talking about the 80s a little bit, you know, kind of like the hair bands and that kind of thing, you know, Metallica.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's, you know, they teach me.
me, they teach me, you know, kind of the, kind of the, you know, the millennial stuff, and then I teach
in the old school stuff. So it's a good, it's a good deal we got going. Yeah, Nirvana's my hometown,
Aberdeen, Westport, Washington, know them well. Last year, after that, no call lost to the Rams,
very quickly after that, you came out and made a point of saying, all right, it's awful,
we got to go back to work. And I theorized at the time, I said, this is what leaders do, folks,
because it's very, football makes us crazy.
We love it.
We get emotional.
You don't want to lose games because of a loss of the Rams.
Did you make a point and to really address that and say, let's get over it,
knowing you live in one of the craziest, wildest, most loyal NFL cities in the country?
No, absolutely.
I was with anybody else.
You know, that was painful.
I think it will always be pain with you, but listen, you've got one or two choices.
You know, you can go in the tank or you can find a way to have a motivation and add some fuel to the fire and turn it into a positive somehow some way.
So I've chosen to take that road in that mindset.
And I see the opportunity we have in front of us as a team.
I love our team.
I love our locker room.
I feel like we've got a great window of opportunity here.
And I want to see us take full of variance of it.
If you look at what's happening in the NFL, Drew, it's pretty remarkable.
Even five or six years ago, first round quarterbacks were failing half the time.
Of the last 14 first round quarterbacks, only one has really struggled Paxton Lynch.
The difference between college and pro, it's shrinking.
Now, with you, you are so deft at the NFL offenses, but are you,
and Sean, are you stealing stuff from college on Saturday night?
Do you see stuff and bring it in?
Or are you still more, do you believe, much more about the NFL offense?
I think we're stealing stuff for Jason Hill.
Maybe not for me.
Yeah.
No, listen, you know, it's, I think to your point about, you know,
these young quarterbacks coming in and being able to adjust to the NFL game so quickly,
I think it's a credit to just the amount of reps that these guys are getting with these seven-on-seven passing academies and everything.
I mean, guys are just so much more advanced now coming in.
And I think there's also a lot of crossover between NFL and college in regards to coaching.
And so you just get these schemes that are hopping.
You know, then you have some of these unique players like Kyler Murray, you know, who comes in.
And, you know, that system in Arizona is being created for him, right, and utilized.
his strengths. And, you know, Cliff Kingsbury, who oddly enough I played against in high school,
is bringing in, you know, this system to fit him, to suit him, you know, to build around him.
So, you know, that's just, I think that's one of the reasons why these guys, I think, are coming in
and they're so well prepared. And there's a level of maturity that's coming along with that as well.
different than, you know, guys when I came in and it was, it was like, hey, you're going to back up for a few years and then, you know, you'll get your opportunity after that once you kind of get the hang of it.
But, yeah, the game has almost just been fast-tracked in that way.
Is Sean Payton's system offensively complicated?
Or does he simplify it?
Or because you have the ability to catalog so much stuff because of your history, would you call it a complicated system?
Coming in for the first time, yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
But if you've been here for a little bit and you've been able to see the evolution,
you know, I would equate it to like this.
It's like coming in and having to go to calculus 303 and skip algebra and geometry and everything else, right?
Like you kind of have to start off at square one and go through the levels in order to get to where we're at.
And so, you know, listen, inevitably, you know, you have young,
players that you just have to get up to see, you know, and it just takes time, it takes time on
task. And, you know, that's why I think this camp has been exciting compared to last year.
You know, last year, listen, you go through the season, and we had a ton of young guys playing.
Yeah.
A ton of young guys to skill position.
Again, it takes time, you know, and so I've seen the light bulb now come on for these guys in
year two through this training camp.
And then that's been exciting because then you begin to open up the playbook a little bit
and see the possibilities.
Drew, 11-time Pro Bowler, a first ballot Hall of Famer you will be, 19th year for the Saints.
Absolute pleasure talking to you. Get back to practice. Thanks, bud.
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The preseason AP Top 25 came out yesterday, Clemson 1, Bama 2, Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Top 5.
I don't have any real arguments with any of it.
Oregon's 11 and Auburn is 16, yet I think Auburn is favored over Oregon in week one.
It's a neutral site, so Auburn's favored in Vegas over Oregon, but Oregon's rated higher than Auburn.
I like Auburn to win that game, but have a tougher season than Oregon.
So I don't make much of this stuff.
I'd probably have Texas is 10.
I'd probably have Texas a little higher.
Notre Dame's 9.
I'd probably have them a little lower.
I think LSU is a little underrated this year.
So I don't, I don't, there's nothing that jumps out to me.
USC is rated 45th.
Tells you how far that program's fallen.
That's the one closest to me, 45th in the country.
I mean, they're behind Iowa, Iowa State.
Both Iowa schools, that tells you the state of USC football.
I will say this.
I think Clemson has a chance to be an all-time great team.
In the games in which Trevor Lawrence started and finished
last year. None were close. 20 was the closest, and he was a freshman. He's now a sophomore.
They won the ACC Championship by 32. They beat Notre Dame by 27. They beat Bama by 28. They beat Louisville
by 61. They beat Florida, Florida State by 50. He is the best college quarterback I have seen since
Andrew Luck. I didn't watch Carson Wentz and Patrick Mahomes enough to make that judgment.
I saw him play at 17 in a high school camp. He is the best high school.
quarterback talent I think I've probably ever seen.
Andrew Luck was the last college quarterback I saw as a sophomore, and I made the opinion
very obvious.
I said, this guy is going to be a first ballot hall of famer.
I don't say that about college quarterbacks.
I didn't say it about golf, Mahomes.
I don't say that.
I don't go out on the air and say, this college sophomore is going to be a Hall of Fame
quarterback.
I just don't do it.
I said that with Andrew Luck.
Andrew Luck went to Stanford.
Now, Stanford doesn't have nearly the players of Clemson.
It's got incredibly stringent academic requirements.
Andrew Luck went to Stanford.
They don't have Clemson's talent.
And remember, Stanford was rebuilding in Andrew Luck's first year.
And Andrew Luck was 31 and 7 as a starting quarterback.
This kid's never lost.
In fact, the only close game he's ever been involved in at the college level is Syracuse,
a good program, not stupendous.
They went about 55% of their games over the last 30 years.
They have a very good head coach, very good staff.
But he didn't finish that game.
He got whacked.
He got hurt.
So I think Clemson has a chance.
They have the first or second best running back,
first or second best head coach,
first or second best wide receiver.
They're rebuilding their defensive front,
but Clemson always brings in all sorts of dudes that can play up there.
They won't be quite as dominant on the defensive line.
They've got a very workable schedule.
I think they have a chance to be.
the best college team of all time.
And now, by the way, Alabama's got the best dynasty I've ever seen.
But there's not one team, if I said to you, what's the best Alabama team ever?
They've had a lot of average quarterbacks.
They have been sort of a predictable play with the lead, well-coached.
The best players are mostly on defense with one great receiver and one great back.
But they've been at the quarterback position solid.
Manage it.
don't make a lot of mistakes.
This kid is basically Clemson has Alabama's talent,
but were the best college quarterback of my life.
I told you when Andrew Luck came out.
John Elway is the only quarterback I saw playing college and thought,
oh, that's what a Hall of Famer looks like in the NFL.
And it's not like Elway won a ton in college.
He was just bigger, stronger, faster arm, brain.
And then I said Andrew Luck, I'm like, oh, sophomore year,
that's going to be a first bout.
This kid's better, I think, than both.
arm, size, delivery, everything.
He's really an all-time talent.
So Clemson went 15 and 0 last year,
had very few close games down the stretch.
Once he got better, nobody could compete.
Bama couldn't compete.
Notre Dame couldn't compete.
Florida State couldn't compete.
ACC Championship couldn't compete.
Nobody could compete with them.
And if you look at their schedule this year,
you know, they'll play South Carolina from the SEC.
That's a tough one.
I think they've got a game some here with Texas A&M.
They host them early.
I mean, their schedule's got your landmines.
Georgia Tech, Texas, A&M, South Carolina.
Those are all loseable games.
You know, they have to go to Carolina.
You know, these are all loseable games.
So their schedule, it's not daunting, but it's not Cupcake.
They're going to make it look Cupcake.
I think this kid is absolutely incredible.
And Baker Mayfield would like him because he's a winner.
Baker Mayfield didn't like Daniel Jones.
He's a loser.
17 and 19 at Duke.
Baker would love this guy because this guy wins.
And I do feel like as great as Alabama's been,
I do feel like Clemson now is this morning the better program.
They have a better staff, a better quarterback.
I think they have more momentum.
I think they have more stability in their program.
They're not losing, you know, it's not a revolving door of assistant coaches and
coordinators every year.
I think Clemson's now the best program.
I'm sure Clemson's going to end up in the national championship.
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national championship. I think Alabama will probably end up there, but they could get knocked
off by Georgia. They could get knocked off by LSU. You know, there's always a Mississippi school
gives Alabama trouble. But I think we're looking at potentially, if they stay healthy, the greatest
college football team we've seen. I think they're going to be that dominant this year.
And me saying that, they'll get all overconfident and, you know, get whacked by George.
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own. I think they're going to roll 14 of the teams they play.
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There's two things I keep hearing about Baker Mayfield.
One is, well, he's perfect for Cleveland.
Volatile.
Is that perfect for Cleveland?
He's called out his coach.
He's called out a teammate.
He's called out now a New York Giant.
I would say that's kind of a volatile personality.
Now, I do think, I understand why Cleveland
puts their arms around him, it's Cleveland.
Their standards are incredibly low.
I think Belichick would tell him, shut your mouth.
Don't say this. I think Sean McVeigh would say, zip it up.
You haven't done anything.
I think all the legendary coaches in the NFL would tell Baker if he was their guy,
stop talking.
You're embarrassing yourself.
Patrick Mahalm is the winner. You're a loser.
You were 6-7 and 1 last year. You won one game out of Ohio.
So he ripped Daniel Jones.
He also comes out, and he keeps saying this in all these articles.
He goes, I'm not cookie cutter.
I do it my own way.
I believe if you're any good,
I don't think you're going to have any success unless you think that.
If you go out there thinking you're going to fail,
you're going to fail, which is just the truth.
You don't have to keep reminding us of this.
The guy that tells me how confident he is
is generally masking something.
He's projecting something.
You know, the tough guy, the Dennis Rodman's end up crying a lot.
The TOs end up crying a lot when you put a camera in front of them
with a little stress.
I think I like my quarterbacks to be.
firemen putting out fires, not accelerators, adding to them, because I think the NFL just gives
you volatility constantly. Even the L.A. Rams last year, middle of the season. Oh, crap, we lose
Cooper Cup. Oh, crap, we lose Todd Gurley. And that was a team that ended up in the Super Bowl.
The L.A. Rams had major stress. They lost Jared Goff's favorite target. Cooper Cup, gone for the year.
Then all of a sudden, Todd Gurley has got early stages of arthritis. So that's a team.
that you think, oh, everything was good for the Rams.
Major stress on the offensive side of the ball.
I mean, a year ago, New England, look at the situation they had.
By the way, New England last year in the middle of the season, Tom Brady,
remember that two-game stretch, Steelers, Dolphins?
Tom Brady got hurt.
They had injuries through the season.
Sony-Michel got hurt.
So Cleveland last year is a great example of what happens in the NFL.
Their coordinator gets fired.
Their head coach gets fired.
They have four ugly blowout losses.
That's called the.
the NFL. That's not atypical. The NFL is constantly giving you volatility because it's the one
sport where you have injuries. I mean, I'm looking at camp reports this morning. Everybody's banged
out. San Francisco, the Jets, the Raiders, everybody's banged up. And so I don't think a guy that comes
across this sort of brash, confident, and volatile calling out people is necessarily a perfect fit
for an organization that has a history of all sorts of volatility. And I do think if Baker
was with the Patriots or the Steelers or the Rams or the Eagles,
they tell them to zip it up.
But I think in Cleveland, what are they going to say?
It's Cleveland.
Like he owns the town right now.
And they also added OBJ, volatile.
Olivier Vernon hasn't had double-digit sacks in like seven years.
Sheldon Richardson can be volatile.
You have a GM who's outspoken, a little volatile.
Jimmy Haslam, fires, coaches, GMs, he can be volatile.
I think Cleveland feels volatile to me.
And I, again, I think what you need in the NFL is a fireman at quarterback.
Put out the fires.
Stability, quiet confidence.
I don't think volatility is the answer.
So we'll see how it works out.
I'll take Deshawn Watson, Sam Donald, Jared Goff, sustainable 15-year personalities over calling out quarterbacks, teammates, coaches.
I don't.
And I just want to remind everybody.
I just want to remind everybody on Cleveland.
This is what's remarkable to me.
So Cleveland last year was one in five against winning teams.
Was blown out by four teams in the AFC.
Not just blown out.
They were blown out by the Chargers.
They were blown out by the Texans.
They were blown out by the Steelers.
They were blown out by Houston.
You know, those are teams they're going to have to get through.
They were blown out four times in the AFC.
And their wins were overwhelmingly narrow.
Pittsburgh, by the way, is the opposite.
They had several blowout wins and their losses were all narrow.
They narrowly lost to Kansas City, Los Angeles, Denver, New Orleans.
So just say that out loud.
Cleveland was blown out many times and then narrowly beat mostly bad teams.
Atlanta, you know, Cincinnati, bad teams.
Pittsburgh blew out several teams and then narrowly lost to some good teams, some bad teams.
So just say that out loud.
So Pittsburgh goes 9, 6, and 1.
They go to Kansas City, get a starting corner.
They draft what appears to be the best linebacker in the draft.
They add Mark Barron another linebacker.
They get the drama out of the locker room.
They beat good teams, blew out some, and lost close, narrow games, 9, 6, and 1.
But I'm supposed to like the team with a rookie head coach that couldn't beat winning teams
that was blown out four times because they added OBJ who can't stay healthy,
and Olivier Vernon, who's never been elite.
Miami, he had one big sack here in Miami.
He didn't do anything in New York.
Then he added Sheldon Richardson.
What did he do?
He's been a difficult guy in locker rooms.
That's why he keeps bouncing around the league with all his talent.
So I just, sometimes I just don't understand it.
I don't understand how you can look at Pittsburgh's results, what they added,
the drama that left, and then look at Cleveland's results, couldn't beat good teams.
What they added, more volatility, name over substance, OBJ, 32 games, hasn't played the last 16.
Olivier Vernon gives you about six and a half sacks a year.
I don't get it.
Like I just coach Pittsburgh, quarterback Pittsburgh, O-line Pittsburgh, owner Pittsburgh, GM Pittsburgh, results last year, Pittsburgh.
I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
I've just, foo over my head.
Pittsburgh's going to win the division.
Pittsburgh's a better team.
Pittsburgh has the better coach, quarterback, O-line.
I could be wrong on this.
Didn't Pittsburgh leave the NFL in Sachs last year?
So they got a better D-line.
I don't get it.
Over my head.
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By the way, my producer just said in my ear,
Baker Mayfield is responding.
to Daniel Jones comment on his comment.
So Baker Mayfield comes out, as I just said, takes a shot at Daniel Jones.
Daniel Jones comes out and says, I think Baker's a great player.
He can throw it.
I enjoy watching him play.
Handled it with class.
So let me, I have not seen.
My producer is, I have not seen this yet.
So go ahead, producer.
Baker is on now, I'm told, responding.
Oh, boy, look at this.
Baker Mayfield, quote, this is not what I said.
just so were clear.
I also said I was surprised I got drafted number one.
That then was talking about the flaws and evaluating quarterbacks where I brought up winning being important.
Reporters and media, oh, it's our fault.
We'll do anything to come up with clickbait stories.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
I heard nothing but good things and wished nothing but the best for Daniel.
So by the way, he said, this is not what I said.
Then he says dot, dot, dot, just so we're clear, I also say.
I also said, well, how can you say you didn't say it?
But then literally four words later said, but I also said I was surprised I got drafted.
You can't even get that right.
What he meant to say is what he meant to say.
So again, this is the, you know, clickbait.
Also, click bait's not a thing.
Nobody gets paid on clicks, Baker.
We're not getting paid on clicks.
That's not the way it works.
We're just being nerdy of media people, but clickbush.
Yeah. So now Baker is backpedaling. Why? Because he was immature, got caught talking out of his, you know what.
He can't cash the checks. His mouth is writing. So now Baker has to yell. This is classic. It's always the media's fault.
It's the, I just, GQ, yeah, because writers at GQ who make six figures want to risk their job just making stuff up.
We had the writer a GQ on. He said he liked Baker. He defended Baker. He was all in on Baker. But he's just making stuff up.
up to make him look bad.
Okay.
All right.
Just want to.
So now Baker has ripped a teammate, Duke Johnson,
ripped his former coach,
ripped a quarterback,
denied he ripped a quarterback.
But I'm sure he'll have his 13th expose article
in a national magazine here in a couple of days,
you know,
because you wouldn't want to, you know,
be focused on, you know,
as I said before,
Baker comes across as volatile.
That's why I like my quarterbacks to be firemen
and put out fires.
Jared Goff, Russell Wilson,
Andrew Luck, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes.
Quiet, reserve put out.
I want a fireman at quarterback.
Put the hose on it.
Water down the volatility.
Water down the flames.
I don't want a can of gas at quarterback, which inflames a little tiny fire.
So here we do.
We've got another Baker story.
He's having to now deny today.
The reporter was just doing clickbait.
Okay.
Clay Skipper wrote the article.
Clay, clickbait, skipper.
You're just making stuff up.
All right.
I mean, look, I'm a big Baker supporter.
It's just tough to, it's tough to defend him in the spot.
Like we were saying, it's you just,
you don't critique other people in your industry,
specifically your position.
It's always going to get taken the wrong way.
Even if he didn't necessarily mean for it to be critical of him,
that's how it's going to get taken.
Well, Daniel Jones, I thought, handle it with class.
Yeah.
Best way is just like, I just think the guy's great.
Just super duple.
Oh, kill them with kindness.
Kill them with kindness.
It's always the way to go.
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