The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Jan 03, 2020

Episode Date: January 3, 2020

Colin says this Patriots dynasty is coming to and end and we will never see anything like it again. He explains why the Cowboys are struggling with the same thing the Lakers have had trouble with for twenty years. He makes his picks for all four Wild Card playoff games. Plus, Peter King of NBC Sports talks about the very real chance Josh McDaniels goes to the Browns and why Tom Brady leaving New England isn't crazy. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. We're on iHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS 1 an hour from now. We don't really have a blazing five, but I'll tell you who I like in all four playoffs. games. Joy Taylor is joining me in a Friday. We're packed today, Moose Johnson of the Cowboys, Peter King, Albert Breer, Eric Dickerson. Joy, how are you? I'm great. The playoffs are here. Here we go. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You know, it's interesting. I was I was looking this morning at, it's been, the last 10 to 15 years have been the era, certainly the decade of the dynasties. The Warriors had a dynasty for five years.

Alabama's had it for 10 years, and the Patriots have had it for 20 years, and they're all ending. They're all ending. Clemson is the new Bama. Okay? Golden State imploded. Durant's not coming back. I mean, nothing wrong with Clay and Stefan Draymond. That's good.

It's not special. Alabama's very good. They're not as special. Mayluse to Sabin's just hemorrhaging, really good assistant coaches and coordinators, and New England's going to end. Maybe this weekend, I suspect they'll win this weekend. But it's been interesting. Patriots 20, Bama 10, Warriors 5, they're all ending.

Still be good, still be respected, won't be feared. You're never going to see this again. This has been the perfect storm. 20 years, nine Super Bowls, and six wins. Now, a lot of it is because Belichick's great and Brady is great. But there are breaks, and a lot of times, whether it's Facebook, it's Apple, it's Microsoft, there is a perfect storm that develops. And four or five things went New England's way.

One, Bill Belichick, a brilliant coach with a chip on his shoulder after being fired in Cleveland, goes to New England. He then stumbles, let's be honest, stumbles into an equally aspirational quarterback named Tom Brady. Brady marries a supermodel who has a greater net worth, allowing Tom, let's be honest, a humble kid anyway, to take some pay cuts, sprinkle the money around. They're in a division with abject dysfunction, Buffalo, Jets in Miami, which allows them 20 years. This is a break. 20 years of bad quarterbacks, mostly, bad coaches, bad GMs, weak ownership,

home field advantage and a buy to start the playoffs. And let's just throw this in. Mostly Tom Brady was injury-free. This is never going to happen again in football. Just to give you some context, Brady has 30 playoff wins. Lamar, Mahomes, Deshawn, Josh Allen, Tanna, he'll have a combined one. And in their careers, they won't get there because they won't have the breaks. So let's talk about three quarterbacks who we think have the talent and many of the

components of Brady and who fell way short. Let's take Aaron Rogers. So Aaron Rogers ends up with one Super Bowl appearance and only nine playoff wins. That is one quarter of Brady. He had injuries because he sat for three years. He didn't make big boy money until year seven in the NFL. He's not taking pay cuts. And his division was a little more competent.

And he also had a head coaching never really connected with. So he ends up with less than a quarter of Tom Brady's career. Let's go to Drew Breeze. First of all, they had a natural disaster. That was not an obstacle, which is remarkable in itself. But they only have one Super Bowl and eight playoff wins. So that's a quarter of Brady. Well, let's look at it.

Breeze, bumpy career, came in, and when he got the chance to make Big Boy money, he took it. and it hurt the franchise for years. It's also a much more competent division. Matt Ryan's competent. Ron Rivera and Cam got to a Super Bowl. Atlanta got to a Super Bowl. So much more competent division.

Also, Drew had to rebuild the franchise. He really spent a lot of time twice rebuilding the franchise. Let's go to Peyton Manning, who ends up with roughly little less than half of Brady's accomplishments. Four Super Bowl appearances and 14 playoff wins. His division was actually fairly competent. He dealt with several head coaches in Denver and Indianapolis. He had injuries at the end, and the Colts decided we're bailing, and we're going to go with Andrew Luck.

A lot of this stuff, we'll see another Alabama. It's called Clemson. We'll see another Golden State Warriors, you know, a four or five-year run when stars combined. Could be the Lakers, could be the Clippers, who knows. You're not going to see New England again. I'm not saying in no way is skill, acumen, intelligence, focused, not part of it. But man, they got some breaks. When you find the great dynasties, they always get breaks.

Bad owners in the AFC East, bad quarterbacks, bad draft picks. And let's be honest, Brady and Belichick were equally non-nostalgic, equally focused. Tom was asked yesterday about all the records, and this is classic Brady. I'm not much for nostalgia. You know, I'm just pretty focused on what I need to do. And, you know, this week's felt pretty much like every other week for the last 20 years. I haven't thought about those things, and, you know, I wouldn't be thinking about those things anyway. You know, it's felt like a normal week for me.

So I just approach practice like I always have. try to do the best I could do. So that's what I'm going to do this weekend as well. Win or lose, we just came out. 2020 is a new year. It's the end of the dynasties. Golden States evaporated. Bam is still good, not as good as Clemson.

And New England may beat Tennessee, but if you think they're going to Kansas City and Baltimore and pulling off Ws there, it's not going to happen. Let me shift to the Cowboys coaching search. Jason Garrett has been interviewed several times. Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are treating Jason Garrett like anybody would treat family if you have to fire them, which is to say they're treating them well. You know, I was thinking about this this morning. The Lakers, the Yankees, and the Cowboys are the biggest American sports brands,

but let's just concentrate on the Cowboys and the Lakers. These are very similar trajectories. These are family-owned businesses. And the family, families don't like outsiders. Doesn't matter if it's Walmart, Sam Walton, it doesn't matter if it's that. Jerry Jones, this is a crucial hire. Because as we know, seven of the eight, and you can argue eight of the eight divisions this year, we're won by the head coach quarterback combo. That's the best.

And now they're going to hire a coach, and nobody thinks DAC isn't a top five quarterback. This is a huge hire. And if you look at what the Cowboy family, the Jones family is done, they have briefly relinquished power. And it has worked both times. They relinquished power

to Jimmy Johnson. But he was an outsider. Because Jimmy got famous before the Cowboys. And Bill Parcells was also invited in. But Bill Parcells made his money and got famous and had success before the Cowboys. They're outsiders.

Chan Galey, Dave Campo, Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett. They were elevated by the Cowboys brand. I mean, Dave Campbell, Wade Phillips, best jobs they've ever had. Jason Garrett, best job he ever had. Chan, Galey, Barry, Switzer. That's the best job they've ever had. They're not a threat to Jerry Jones. Parcells and Jimmy Johnson were rock stars before Dallas.

They're viewed as outsiders. This is the same thing for the Lakers. Pat Riley played for the Lakers. Jerry West played for the Lakers. Kobe is a Laker. Magic's a Laker. Phil Jackson was an outsider. Phil Jackson got famous playing for the Knicks

and got really famous coaching the Bulls. So Phil Jackson, even though he was within the family, like Jimmy Johnson and Parcells, is kind of an outsider. He never wore the Laker uniform. well, Phil Jackson's a Laker. No, I actually, very many people think of him as a Bulls coach and as a Knicks player. And I don't think it's Parcells.

I don't see him as a cowboy coach. I think Parcells, New York Giants. You think of Jimmy Johnson with the Dallas Cowboys. I think of him as much with the Miami Hurricanes when I was first introduced to him. And I also think about him living in the Keys and coach in the Dolphins. And so with both the Lakers, go look at who Jerry is hired after he relinquished power. He went to people, Barry Changayley Campo, then after Parcell's Phillips, Jason Garrett, who didn't push back, who understood who ran the family. Parcells didn't give a rip about the family.

Jimmy wasn't family. I mean, Jimmy and Jerry didn't talk much the first three years. Jimmy was doing football. Jerry was, you know, he bought that cowboy team on credit. He was trying to make the business work. And then the minute Jimmy got to be a rock star, Jerry didn't like it. It's the same thing for the Lakers. they gave an outsider the power with Phil Jackson.

Go look at who they've hired after Phil Jackson, people that needed them. You know, Mike Brown, Mike Dantone, Frank Vogel, Byron Scott, people they're comfortable with. And so you may think Phil Jackson's a Laker and Bill's a cowboy and Jimmy's a cowboy. Those people were rock stars before the organization and before the family was never comfortable. they briefly gave up power to an outsider, and the outsider won and got a lot of credit, and the Lakers never loved that Phil Jackson got all that credit. They didn't like it.

And the Cowboys and Jerry didn't like that Parcells, who rebuilt a messy franchise and Jimmy Johnson got the credit. These are the big families in American sports, the Lakers and the Cowboys. And when they relinquish it, they win, but they don't like it. Because the brand's bigger than the title. is. The Cowboys brand is big regardless of titles, and the Lakers brand

is huge, regardless of titles. They don't like relinquishing power and any ownership, not just steak, but a feeling that Phil runs the Lakers and Jimmy runs the Cowboys. So I think this is a massive hire for the Cowboys, and I don't think Jerry Jones has it in him

to hire Urban Meyer, who was a rock star long before the Cowboys. Lincoln Riley, Jerry can make him. He can mostly make him. Urban, Maher doesn't need Jerry Jones to be a rock star. His legacy on TV as a broadcaster, great

and college football coach icon. And I just don't think Jerry has the guts like the Lakers have struggled with to let an outsider in and be the face of the brand. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed the game.

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This is not, by the way, a shot at any of the reporters breaking these varied stories. when I hear stuff like Cleveland Browns interested in Urban Meyer. Yeah, and single guys are attracted to beautiful girls. Of course Cleveland's interested in Urban Meyer. Cleveland Browns like Josh McDaniels. Yeah, he's been tied to a dynasty for a decade, I would imagine. Mike McCarthy on the Brown's radar. Yeah, he's got a Super Bowl.

I would suspect that's true. Listen, Cleveland's is a hazmat spill. Put caution tape around the franchise. In my career, I have on more than one occasion told a broadcaster, this is the best word you can ever use. No. Don't do every job. Don't take every assignment.

Don't fall in love with money. Track good management. Take jobs. Have discretion. Don't put yourself out there or look like a fool. Don't take a job because they offer you a nickel more than another place. Cleveland's a bad job. Romeo Cronnell is the only guy that's been given three years since, like,

since Marty Schottenheimer in the 80s is the last guy that took a Cleveland Brown job and is brand improved. Everybody else takes the job. It's a career ender. Josh McDaniels already been fired once. Mike McCarthy been fired once. You can't roll the dice on Cleveland. That's a terrible job. Now, if you're Robert Sala, you're not going to get another head coaching offer.

You could probably take it. If you're Kevin Stafansky and you got passed over, times you've only worked for the Vikings, maybe you take it. But I'm hearing a lot of this. Oh, the Browns are interested in. Folks, the most dysfunctional franchise in the NFL and the most dysfunctional college program is led by Jimmy Haslam. He's the number one booster of the volunteers, the Tennessee volunteers, who are the most

underachieving, last 10 years, most underachieving college football power in the country, and the Browns are the most dysfunctional organization. This is a bad job. This is just, you do not take this job if you're Josh McDaniels, because you know you're not going to get, and you're taking Baker Mayfield, who now isn't close to Lamar, isn't nearly as good as Big Ben,

and if the Bengals draft Joe Burrow, you got the fourth most talented quarterback in your own division. So I'm seeing all these names with Cleveland. I'm like, yeah, of course, Cleveland's attracted to all these people. But everybody, oh, Mike McCart, listen, I get the attraction one way. Mike McCarthy could get the Giants job. I don't understand people that don't see the Giants being a really good job.

Non-meddling owner, franchise quarterback and a rookie deal. Dallas doesn't have that. Dax going to get paid. Star running back. And you have a number four pick. Now, Gettleman's terrible in front of a microphone. He's awful. But he can draft okay.

You know, he took Daniel Jones over Dwayne Haskins. Y'all freaked out. And it looks like Daniel Jones. is way better than Dwayne Haskin. So he's bad in front of a microphone, and he's only there for one more year, maybe more, maybe not. But this organization, to me, is ready to roll. That number four pick the Giants have is massive

because the three teams after the Giants all want a quarterback, and all three could hop over the other and give the Giants multiple picks. Giants, to me, is a great organization. Non-meddling owner, they've won before. Rookie quarterback, don't have to pay a quarterback for three more years. You have to pay them anything. And they really just need to rebuild their defense. Their offense is good

enough to win a lot of games. They just need to upgrade the defense. This job to me feels like you've got everything in your eye. You got the star running back, the franchise quarterback. O lines doesn't need to rebuild. It's not that bad. You've got some guys who can catch nice young, tight end, good wide

receivers. You just got to rebuild that defensive front. And with that four pick, you're either going to get a great defensive player or trade down a couple of and get multiple picks and figure out your defense. The Raiders figured out their offense in one draft. You can do that. The Raiders went out and got Hunter Renfro and Jacobs

and they got some offensive linemen in free agency. You can figure out one side of the ball in one draft, in free agency period. Raiders did it with their offense. I think the Giants could do it with their defense. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app.

Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever. you'd like. During the year, I do Blazing 5, but in the Blazing 5, I've got 15, 16 games to pick from, and I pick 5. There's only one game here, maybe 2 I would actually bet. I only have four games on the docket. There's one, I think, is a pretty good bet

outside of that. I'm just going to tell you who I think is going to win the games. I like two favorites this weekend, and I like two underdogs to win outright this weekend, so let's not waste any time and get to the picks for our wild card weekend. Bill's at Texans.

Listen, I would take the underdog Buffalo Bills to win this. I think they're going to win it straight out. I think coaching matters in the playoffs, and I think they have the better coaching staff. Now, Bill O'Brien's not a bad coach, because you can't keep winning your division, and they do with a bad coach. But the Texans have been outgained this year.

They remind me of a really talented flag football team where you never know what you're going to get. They can be totally outplayed, but because their quarterback and wide receivers are so gifted, they make crap up and win. but the bills have one of the better defenses in the NFL. They do not give up cheap touchdowns, and Houston lives off cheap touchdowns.

And the Buffalo Bills don't give them up. Their defense, number two in total defense, number two in scoring defense. Also, Josh Allen, if you worry about him, the young quarterback for Buffalo, bizarrely better on the road this year, much better on the road than he was at home. I'm going to take Buffalo to win the game straight out, regardless of points, 24, 23 bills. Titans at Patriots. I like New England to win the football game. Listen, first of all, they're undefeated this year when they hold people under 20.

And Ryan Tannahill, in his career, has faced the Patriots in Belichick a lot. He's been awful. Belichick destroys average quarterbacks. And most of Tannahill's career, forget the last two months, he's been average. He's 0. and 6 at Foxborough. Five touchdowns, 10, pay. and a passer rating of 70. Tannahill has been eaten alive by Belichick.

And I do think Tennessee here has better offensive personnel by a stretch. But believe me, Belichick knows Tannahill. He knows Vrable. And New England, special teams are still great. Defense is still excellent. Home, they're great. They're excellent situationally. They're brilliantly coached.

And Brady can still muster up if he doesn't face a great pass rush. Very good halves of football. I think the Patriots win this puppy. It's kind of classic New England. They'll get a fumble or two. They'll block a punt. 27-24 Patriots. Vikings at Saints.

Listen, everybody likes the Saints, so do I. Now, the wise guys like Minnesota and the points. I just think New Orleans wins by more than a touchdown. It's a Kirk Cousins factor. Now, if Delvin Cook plays, Minnesota can take the ball and play a little bit of keep away. But I think the Saints' defense is better than everybody thinks. We know their offense is great. They're averaging 34 points of game since week 11.

You know, they have Mike Thomas as a guaranteed 12 targets and nine catches a game. Drew Breeze in the last four games, 15 touchdowns, no picks. They have one of the great home field advantages, and they don't turn it over. Unlike the Texans, you get the upside without the goofiness. Only eight turnovers, the fewest in the NFL. And let's be honest, Minnesota's been good my entire life. Do you trust the Vikings in big spots? They haven't won a road playoff game since 2005.

There are moments they've outplayed teams at home like the Seahawks years ago, and they can't kick a 15-yard field goal. I just don't trust minutes. I haven't all year. I do not trust them in this spot, so I'm going to take the Saints to win around the number 28 to 20. Seahawks and Eagles. This is the toughest game for me.

This is the one, you know, Philadelphia is getting points. I think Philadelphia is going to win a very close football game. They're both falling apart physically. I get two great quarterbacks and two excellent coaches. Carson Wentz has carried this franchise. Now, some people say, well, has Carson Wentz ever played a playoff game? The last three weeks have felt like a playoff game. Seattle travels very well.

But the last, if you go look at Russell Wilson, he's lost his last three road playoff games. I just don't think Seattle against this Philadelphia defensive front is going to muster a consistent offense. and they're going to be kind of beholden for Russell Wilson to save them. I think he's going to be under duress all weekend. Philadelphia is a very limited offensive football team. They can kind of win one way. But Wents is hot. Philadelphia is at home.

They have a major advantage defensive line to Seahawks' offensive line. They're beat up, but they feel less beat up today than they were a month ago. I would take Philadelphia in overtime. I actually think this is going to be the game of the weekend to watch. I think this is going to be a great football game. Classic, tough, great coaches, great quarterback play. 26, 23, Philadelphia in overtime wins the game. And those are my pick.

So I take the dog Buffalo Bills to win on the road, the dog, Eagles to win at home. And I think the Saints and the, I mean, you're going to have an upset here. You're not going to have four favorites win. It never works that way. So there you have it. What's going on, everybody?

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playoffs. Again, John Middlecock, three-and-out podcast, go subscribe. I do think New England's fascinating because I think they've been a dynasty for 20 years and I think it's going to end. I think they'll win this weekend, and I think there's just younger teams that better with more dynamic quarterbacks. But, you know, it's funny about dynasties. And I talked an hour ago about how the Warriors had one for five years,

Bama for 10, New England for 20, and they're all ending. They're all, their last decade was the decade of dynasties. This decade, Serena's not as dominant, Federer's not as dominant. It feels like a lot of dynasties are ending. You know, and Brady was asked going into this weekend if he wanted to talk and romanticize the past. I'm not much for nostalgia. You know, I'm just pretty focused on what I need to do. And, you know, this week's felt pretty much like every other week for the last 20 years.

I haven't thought about those things. And, you know, I wouldn't be thinking about those things anyway. You know, it's felt like a normal week for me. So I just approach practice like I always have and try to do the best I could do. So that's what I'm going to do this weekend. as well. You know, it's funny about if you look at dynasties. I look at dynasties in sports the same way I look at wealth and business. Boring wins. You know, somebody once told me this about the wealthiest Americans. They said there's a reason artists aren't billionaires because they have to recreate great.

Billionaires create a product, put it in a conveyor belt and sell it over and over repetition, rinse and repeats. Boring. Wealth is boring. Create a product and sell it over and over the same product. That's what Apple does. Zuckerberg does. That's what you do. If you go look at the dynasties and the people who have led them over the last 20 years, Belichick Sabin, Popovich, Jeter, Brady, Tim Duncan. And I would say Steph Curry is an NBA star is kind of boring. Not his game, but family guy wears nurses' shoes, loves to golf. Really, you never see him getting in trouble. boring the ability to be repetitive, go to bed early, be turned on by process, love information. That's what wins.

That is Duncan. That's Popovich. That's Sabin. That's Belichick. That's Jeter. That's Brady. That's Steph Curry. You say, wow, Jeter was a single guy and Curry is game.

But they're really into process. They're really into their pregame, their rituals, their diet, how they live, how they eat. And, you know, it's the more lit you are, the less, because I'll tell you what, blows up dynasties. Flakes, Kevin Durant. So Flake, he's talented, but he's a flake. Egos, Jerry Jones, Kobe and Shaq, that blows up dynasties. And, you know, I never forget, you know, Belichick and Brady, they're what I would call process guys. They get up early.

They're not late night guys. They love watching film, breaking down stuff. and wealth and dynasties, you may think on the outside, you may think they're just fascinating and flashy and their ego. You go look at the Chicago Bulls. Michael Jordan was lifting weights, regardless of cocktails, every morning of game days. Eight in the morning, he was in the gym.

Didn't matter how lady stayed out. Nobody worked harder than Chicago. Nobody had tougher practices. Nobody was more physical. They'd play their cards on the private jets. They had wild off-season, but in season, they were complete process-driven, rinse-and-repeat grinders. Never forget that Tom versus Time video where Tom and the off-season, this is the off-season, married to a supermodel, 800 million net worth, and here's Tom and Tom versus Time.

I watch tape all day Monday, all day, Tuesday, you know, Wednesday we practice, Thursday we practice, Friday we practice, and then Saturday before the game, I watch film, and then Sunday morning I watch film. The whole time I'm just trying to get tells. I don't know why I can sit here and watch it and, you know, process information quickly, but I can't. I mean, I could literally, like, just watch film all day. It's almost like soothing because I've been doing it for so long. I can just go four or five hours without getting up from this chair. That is what creates wealth and dynasties.

The ability to just sit there and be boring and be in the information and process and, You know, remember that movie? It wasn't the Wolf of Wall Street. It was the other one, the Michael Lewis book, The Big Short, where they found the guy that bet against the market. And he just sat at his computer all day and he didn't have a social life. And he, I mean, it was just, you know, everybody's going to dinners on Wall Street. And oh, there's, and he was just sitting all day in his computer.

And he goes, oh, this economy is a total fraud. The banks are fraudulent. None of this stuff works. It doesn't make any sense. It was the process guy with no social life that basically made zillions of dollars in 2008 when the market crash. Michael Lewis wrote the book on it. So there's something to me very attractive to this kind of lifestyle. Well, sustained success is very boring.

Not to the... A one-head wonder, like, that can happen and it's fun and it's exciting and then go it again. I'll give you an example. You've heard of the band Kiss? Yes. So Kiss has been around since the 70s. So Gene Simmons and what's the other guy? Paul Stanley.

They're the remaining two members of Kiss. So I had a buddy going on one of their concerts. They both make $30, $40 million a year still. They bought the other members out because the other members were partiers and fun and got into drugs. So they bought him out. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons of Kiss. So I had a buddy that was on their private jet. It's long story, but he does business with their restaurants.

So like once a year he goes on the jet when Kiss, Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons do it. They fly in the day of the concert. They land, get makeup on perform. The minute they get off, they put them in robes. They take the makeup off. They take the robe off. They walk on the jet. And within five minutes, they cross their arms. And Stanley and Gene Simmons are asleep. And then they land and they drive an SUV home to their families. And they do this 60 times a year and make $40 million. And I said, I said, what was it like? He goes, I wanted to party with him. He goes, they don't party. It's just business. It's fly. makeup, robe, make up off, sign 10 autographs,

fall asleep in a jet, picked up at the airport, in bed by 3 in the morning. You mean you can't party until 5 a.m. until you're 70 and sustain that. Yeah, bands do that. You know, Gene Simmons was trending recently because he revealed that he puts ice cream, or not ice cream, ice cubes in his cereal. To keep the milk cold. Well, you say that, it's like a normal thing. I've done that before, yeah.

I put ice cubes in my cereal. Well, it's not that strange. It keeps the milk cold. How long are you eating the cereal that the milk gets warm? Well, I take my time with my cereal. You put ice creams in your cereal. I don't do it regularly, but I've done it before. Your New Year's resolution should be to stop doing that.

Yeah, I didn't think it was that strange, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah. You want the milk cold. It fortifies the cereal. I mean, how long does it take you to eat a bottle of cereal that your milk gets warm? Well, I take my time with cereal. I enjoy cocoa puffs for a good 20 minutes. I don't know.

I guess I shouldn't be judging. I like mushy cereal. I don't. I like mine formidable. I like it's getting nice and soggy. Yeah. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the I-Hard Radio app.

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With that, we bring in Peter King at NBCSports.com via the Coward Global Satellite Network. I don't think I'm being hyperbolic. It kind of feels like the end. They'll still be good. They won't be feared. I don't think New England's as feared as previous times. What are your thoughts on that, Peter? You know, Colin, as I wrote my column this week,

I don't think this is the end of the New England Patriots, but I do think it's the end of something in New England. We just don't know yet. Will Josh McDaniels go, the offensive coordinator who has Tom Brady's undying trust, maybe. Will Tom Brady go? Maybe will Bill Belichick go doubtful? But look, nobody knows anything about Bill Belichick's contract or his

future because he just never talks about it. I don't think he talks about it to anybody, probably other than his wife. He just, he's not, he just is, is very, very quiet about all that stuff. So something's going to end in New England. I just don't know what it is. Yeah, I, you know, it's funny. I talked about this yesterday. When Peyton Manning left, he had a lot of suitors. And if you remember this, Peter, he wanted, he went to Denver had good ownership, had won Super Bowls. a nice offensive line and they had some weapons. And, I mean, Seattle wanted him, San Francisco, a lot of smart people. I could see Tom looking at Chris Ballard, Frank Reich, that young offensive line, multiple

tight ends. I could see Tom saying, I want to stay in the AFC. It's indoors. I don't want to get hit as much. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think that's a hot take. When I say to you, you know, by the way, I know you and I both know, the Colts are going to draft a quarterback in the next two years.

and they may not have the draft capital to get ahead of San Diego or Cincinnati or Miami. Brady to the Colts, Brady to the Chargers. Does it sound nuts to you? Neither one of those sounds nuts to me. And I think that the whole issue is going to be, I think there's going to be two things that Tom Brady is going to have to decide. A, does he want to still keep playing? And B, does he want to go back to New England?

And I think the biggest issue about going back to New England, England is that, and look, I have not talked to him about this. I don't know this to be the case. But just how would you feel if you're Tom Brady? And every year, the New England Patriots basically pile an offense on your shoulders that is nowhere near the most talented offense in football. And every year, they basically say to Tom, okay, Tom, fix it. You know, make our offense great. And for you. years he has. This year he couldn't. I think the biggest day for this Patriots team this year was on a Sunday back in March when Rob Grankowski left and Jared Cook signed as a free agent with

the New Orleans Saints. That was going to be a guy who the Patriots were going to go hard after. But because it took Grunkowski so long to make his decision, then they could never get a tight end. And then I don't know why they did this. They traded Jacob Hollister to Seattle, and they really could have used Jacob Hollister to tight end as this year went on. Then they drafted the wrong guy, evidently, and Keel Harry over A.J. Brown. So, you know, it was just a bad year choreographing and populating this offense around Tom Brady. You know, for some reason, I think you used to cover the New York Giants.

in your early, early, early days. You maybe didn't, but I have this. You did. Yeah. And it's funny about these great organizations. I'm a big believer in evolve, evolve, evolve. And the giants, the criticism is, you know, they have not jumped head first into analytics. You know, they're very, very old school.

And, you know, you've seen the results the last several years. But I still contend my quarterback Daniel Jones on a rookie contract for three more years. I think they've got nice offensive. a star running back. I contend this is a very good job. In your reporting in NFL circles, does it feel like the Giants are still an elite job in this league, Peter? What a question that is.

I think some people would say, yes, give me that job. I think Matt Ruhle would love to get that job. I mean, he's a New Yorker. He grew up loving the Giants and all that. So, you know, look, I think there are some people who would look at that job. I think Mike McCarthy would love that job. But I think there's one thing to keep in mind. Yes, they have Sequin Barclay, but they still are in the process of rebuilding the offensive line.

They have one receiver, Darius Slayton, long term, who looks like he's going to be pretty good. Evan Engram is totally unreliable. You have no idea if he can stay healthy. So you don't know if you've got a tight end. You've got a couple of no-name tight ends who played pretty well this year. And then you tell me on defense one player who scares an offensive coordinator preparing for to play the Giants. There isn't one.

And now because they want a couple down the stretch, they're going to miss out on Chase Young. So, you know, really, I think the Giants have a lot of rebuilding to do. And look, John Mara at a crucial time in franchise history, is doubling down on Dave Gettleman. And it doesn't seem to be the smartest move, quite honestly. And we'll see if he is, if it is. Because Gettleman, this is going to be one of the most important off seasons in the recent history of the Giants, not just in who they hire as a coach, but in their plans during the draft and what can they do in free agency with 60-some million in cap room

available. Yeah. Is there, you know, you look at this college, Urban Meyer, Lincoln, Riley, Dallas Cowboys. I said earlier, Phil Jackson won with a lot. Lakers, but Pat Riley and Jerry West played for him. Phil was an outsider, and the Lakers never loved him getting all the credit. Similarly, Jimmy Johnson and Parcells, they were rock stars before Jerry Jones. He liked the Campo, Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, that these big family, massive family

brands, Lakers and the Cowboys, even when they've won with Phil Jackson or Jimmy, there's this sense that it's ours, you're taking way too much credit. Do you think the Cowboys have the guts to go get an Urban Meyer, who was a rock star long before he would take a cowboy job and doesn't need the Cowboys? I don't think Jerry Jones ever had a problem with Jimmy Johnson being a star until he felt that Jimmy Johnson was trying to take all the credit. From the day he started coaching the Dallas Cowboys to the day he left, Bill Parcells, the number one fan in his fan club was Jerry Jones. They got along famously. And Parcells

would bitch and moan some, but he liked working for Jerry Jones. At the end of it, Jerry Jones handed Bill Parcells the keys to a Papa John's restaurant, a franchise. I mean, that's how much just off the books, just because here, I want you to have this. And look, here's the thing about working for Jerry Jones. It is a totally different thing to do. But in my opinion, and I've said this to two candidates who may be coaches next year in the NFL, go in, if you do talk to Jerry Jones, my strong recommendation is to go into it with an open mind. There are things that you're not going to like about Jerry, but Jerry is going to give you every resource possible to win. And if you can take him having 94 talk shows and talking after the games instead of the players or in addition

of it. If you can take all that, you know, this guy is not a domineering nut. And that is the reputation he has. I've seen it. I've seen him during draft times. I've seen him swallow what he wants to do and say to the guys in the room, okay, listen, we're going to do that. You know, he did that four years ago. He desperately wanted Paxton Lynch and they didn't get him. And Jerry was upset, but he acceded to the wishes of the guys in his draft room. By the way, Josh McDaniels, gut feeling. Where's the end up? Gut feeling is Cleveland. I, look, in my opinion, Colin, in my opinion, I think if you look at Urban Meyer, and Urban Meyer is obviously a great football coach.

But he reminds me of a guy who every year you're going to have to wonder, is he a long-termer? Or do you hire Urban Meyer to get you out of the muck and Meyer? No pun intended. And to get yourself to a 10-win plateau, and then if he leaves, you're okay because he has saved your franchise. If you're okay with that, then he's an okay hire. I don't think you hire Urban Meyer thinking, here's our guy for the next 10 years.

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