The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Jan 20, 2020

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

Colin talks about how the Packers were always a fraudulent team and had no shot against the 49ers. He thinks Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs are the perfect team to take advantage of the newer rules in the NFL. He says Aaron Rodgers bails on things too early and against the 49ers he completely bailed on the game. Colin admits where he was right and wrong over the past week. Plus, FOX NFL Analyst and Chiefs legend Tony Gonzalez comes in studio to talk about what sets the Chiefs organization apart and why its a tough match-up against the 49ers in Super Bowl 54 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh. Sometimes you kind of root a little bit, you know, kind of easier to root for Mahomes than Tannahill. I'm not going to lie about that. Look, we got what we wanted. Yes. We got what we wanted. But I think it's going to be a very interesting game.

So let me start with a team I didn't buy all year. I said all year with Green Bay. I don't care about the record. I don't care about stats. I just know what my eyes tell me, and this is a 9-and-7 football team. Masquerading is 14 and 3. And yesterday is a prime example of Green Bay. Pushed all over the field.

If you look at the stats, 7 yards of play, Aaron 31 and 39, had more first downs. Great on third down. Two-for-two on fourth. Time of possession. Green Bay, if you just looked at the stats, twice they played the Niners. They were outscored 50 to nothing in the first half. Green Bay is a finesse team, and the stats and their record didn't fool my eyes. I didn't buy them all year.

Their defense is opportunistic, but we've all watched great defenses before. They jumped through the television set. They punch in the forehead. This defense doesn't scare anybody. It didn't want any part of those running backs yesterday. Half the guys in the back end of that defense looked intimidated. I watched a fight in the Octagon this weekend, Cowboy Soroni and Connor McGregor. The octagon gets very small.

When you're the second toughest guy in the octagon, it gets really small. And San Francisco is like Connor McGregor. They'll take anybody on any time. And Green Bay looked a lot like Cowboy Soroni. Let me get out of here. I'm not comfortable. I think Green Bay got very lucky this year. I don't think they're untalented.

They won their division and that takes something. But Green Bay got lucky. They faced Patrick Mahomes or the... they faced Kansas City. Mahomes was out. Their division unraveled, the Bears and the Lions. They got lucky in the playoff.

They were healthy all year. Then in the playoffs, Minnesota upsets the Saints, and they get a Seattle team instead of the Saints. Seattle fell apart two weeks earlier. Everything went their way. I always trust my eyes.

Then I go to stats to see if the stats tell me what I think my eyes tell me. You could not watch Green Bay this year get pushed around by Philadelphia, pushed around by the chargers, pushed around by San Francisco. Hell, they were an eight-point underdog at 14-3. An eight-point underdog. That's insane.

I don't even know. Has there ever been a 14-3 team that's over a touchdown underdog against Jimmy Garapolo? Not like they were facing Mahomes. Like, I get eight-point underdog to Mahomes to Jimmy Garoppolo. Come on now. To a young 49ers team, do you know that Green Bay only beat one playoff team all year that had their starting quarterback, Minnesota? And in the two games, they face San Francisco and got into the octagon, 106 yards for Aaron Rogers, a pick, and a 52 passer rating. And I've said this about Aaron Rogers in the first half.

Let me say this about Aaron Rogers. He's very good, obvious. He's very talented. But I think his mythology now is greater than the reality. Do you see him in the first half? Do you think he was good? He was missing on little stuff out into the flat. He had fumbles.

He had picks. He played it safe. Aaron's talented. I'm not denying that. But I said this going into the game. You better crank it up. You better throw some haymakers against this team because they're going to smell it. Just like an octagon.

The tougher guy in the octagon can smell the fear. They say animals can smell fear. Like San Francisco. could smell Minnesota's fear a week ago. They could smell that Minnesota didn't want to get Kirk Cousins in harm's way. San Francisco could smell the fraudulent Packers fear. Dumpoffs, quick hits, get out. Well, Cam Newton there with Aaron Rogers' fumbles lost.

I'm not getting in that pile. I got nothing against Green Bay. But there are team. Remember this year we got into this big thing? Everybody was freaking out. I can't believe that somebody is going to win the end. NFC East, the Cowboys and the Eagles, and they're going to be eight and eight. They should have to go on the road.

Time out. Philadelphia went to Lambo and rolled Green Bay. They're not worthy of a home playoff game? I can make an argument Green Bay, based on my eyes, was never worthy of a home playoff game. If Seattle didn't get banged up on the O line and running back, Seattle should have been hosting Green Bay. if it's all about what you think and record and this and that. Listen, I got nothing against Green Bay. I'll say it again.

But I'm not a stat guy, and I'm not a guy that looks at all the glossy numbers and stats, and you were telling me all this stuff. All I know is when I watch Green Bay play San Francisco twice, they were Cowboy Soroni. They had no interest being in that octagon. Now, Aaron Rogers says we are very, very, And for the record, what have I said about Aaron Rogers now? He doesn't like discomfort.

He doesn't like playing on the road. But he thinks they're very close to San Francisco. Well, it looks pretty big. You know, they got us a couple times. But I don't think it's that big. I think we're really close. I think we're just a, you know, just a little more consistent performance away from consistently playing with these guys.

But, you know, we got them at home their place twice. I've said as before, you know, we've got to get one of these at home. It's a different ball game. It's different, you know, playing in 20-degree weather and snow, cold, and wind is a different type of game than playing here. Okay. All right. Well, you could have earned that had you beaten Philadelphia at home. Could have earned that if you'd have gone on to San Francisco and won on the road.

Yeah, you've got to win those uncomfortable games. For the record, I think Green Bay is the point. forest coached, the least talented, and the least physical of the final four teams that survived in the NFL playoffs. So is that close? You make the call. I don't think it is. All right.

Let me shift to a happier story. I love Andy Reid. I love smart. I love tough. I love clever. I like creative. I like talented. and I like Andy Reid.

Check, check, check, check, check. I'm very happy for them. One of the things I love about excellence, and I've said this before, I don't root for the underdog, I root for great, I rooted for Kobe, I rooted for Shaq, I rooted for Michael Jordan,

I rooted for the Warriors, I root for the Yankees. I want to watch history. I root for great. I root for excellence. You want to root for for George Mason, knock yourself out. I root for Duke. I want 36 and O. I like to see Kentucky go on roles. We're different that way. I've always argued everybody plays the lottery for the same reason.

We all want to be rich. When we don't win, we just hate what we're not. But there's nobody playing the lottery because they want to be middle class. We're all rooting for great. We want to be great and we want to be excellent. We want to eat excellent. We want to fly excellent. We want to stay at excellent. What I love about Patrick Mahomes is that he's great and great creates clarity. Half the teams in this NFL can't have an honest conversation with themselves about their quarterback. Chicago's trying to convince himself we got the right guy. Half the teams in this league use qualifiers to explain their quarterback. Well, he's good at home. If you give him a great tied end in an excellent running game.

You watch Kirk Cousins against San Francisco pick up two first downs in the first half. Compare him to Mahomes. You saw Ryan Tannehill this weekend trailing, trying to go toe to toe against Patrick Mahomes. What'd that look like? Kansas City for years. You know Alex Smith is good enough? No, he's not. He's good.

But he's not good enough. Patrick Mahomes creates clarity. for the next 10 years, Andy Reid's calling and designing the plays. Mahomes is slinging it. They'll draft great weapons. This is the offensive bar. Stop going into rooms. What do they say?

The hardest person to be honest with is yourself. Stop trying to convince yourself the Tanna Hills and the Trubiskees and the Kirk Cousins. Or even, I would argue, the Cam Newton's. This is the bar. Okay? Well, well, Colin, once you. you pay Mahomes big money, they won't have the weapons. You're right, but like Russell Wilson, he'll still make them great. You don't think Travis Kelsey's numbers are inflated because of

Mahomes? I like Tyrake Hill too. You think he put, you put him with every other quarterback in the league and Tyreek Hill is getting that ball softly in his hand, Sammy Watkins, perfectly timed. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. They'll have to move off some of their players because of Patrick Mahomes' salary. that's okay. Russell Wilson's never had a great receiving core, never had a great offensive line, and he's one play from two Super Bowls. The NFL, unlike the NBA, is not beholden to one player for ratings. But I'll tell you this, if I ran a network, I would put Patrick Mahomes with Andy Reid on television every week.

I'd be fighting for him for Monday night football. I'd be fighting for him for Thursday night football. And I also think Mahomes, not only is he a great talent, Certainly he benefits from Andy Reid and the playmakers. We all get the game here. Nobody lives on an island. As good as LeBron is, he was much better with D. Wade and Chris Bosch than Matthew Della Vadova, right?

Like we all get Kobe Bryant was way better with Shaq and Pal Gasol than the years he didn't have either. We all get that, right? Nobody lives on an island. Everybody needs help. But I would say Mahomes does remind me a little bit of Steph Curry in Kansas. Golden State. Steph Curry would be great in any time.

But it does help that he plays in the league that you can't hand check, and he's a smaller guard, and that coaches are encouraging three-point shots. It plays to his strengths. And it does help that Patrick Mahomes doesn't play in 1960, 70, 80, or early 90s, where coaches really believe passing gets you in trouble. It's a passing league. You can't touch receivers. That allows Kansas City to go get track guys, run as fast.

as you can. They don't worry about getting hit, and Patrick's got the golden arm. This is the way football, if you look at the rules designed by the NFL or the NBA. The NBA wants you to look like Golden State last year, and they want you to look like Kansas City now. Hard not to root for them. They check all the boxes. They're smart, they're fun, they're clever, they're cool, they're tough, they're exciting, and they're going to Miami. Arrow heading to Miami. Here's Andy Reid after. Where's a trophy? Man. Listen, first of all, I'm so happy for the Hunt family and bringing that trophy back here. Wow. How great is that? That's right. That's right. Fired up. Fired up to go to

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Once somebody gets famous and popular, if you offer any criticism, you're a hater. I would vote Aaron Rogers into the Hall of Fame for ballot. He's not one of my favorite six or seven quarterbacks I've ever seen. I like Breeze better for a lot of leadership reasons. And I think leadership is huge. I think it's one of the reasons I like the Sean Watson and Mahomes and Carson Wentz and Goff. I think they have the right temperament. But Aaron's great. But I have been the, I would say I was the first national guy about seven, eight years ago that offered criticism, that he was condescending. He could be moody. You know, he had family members

call him out. Sometimes he's aloof. So the part of the point. POMPOM waivers. Every time Aaron loses a big game, the pom-pom waivers come out. What about the defense? What about the defense? Let's revisit this. First of all, is it the defense's fault that Aaron Rogers in two games against San Francisco didn't score a point? I mean, none. Is that the defense's fault? Aaron Rogers did not play well in the first half. A couple of fumbles. He had a pick. He wasn't real self-aware in the pocket. I thought he was inaccurate even on swing passes. Something else. His numbers dropped this year with Mike. McCarthy. Stop blaming Mike McCarthy. Took another shot at him yesterday. Stop blaming Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy's a better football coach than Matt Lefleur. Get over it. One of them's got a Super Bowl. One of them couldn't score points this year consistently in the third quarter. Here's another thing. Aaron's not a very good road quarterback. He's not. He's 500. And he's bad as a road quarterback in the playoffs. Amongst his contemporaries, Tony Romo, Breeze, Russell Wilson, Brady, Manning, Ben. He's easily got the worst road record. He's got a worse road record percentage than Matt Ryan.

And Matt Ryan's numbers don't fall off a cliff like Aaron's can on the road. I'll get to that in a second. Here's another thing. Of the 12 playoff teams, only Buffalo. Buffalo with Josh Allen had more three and outs this year. Aaron doesn't help his defense at times because Aaron, as a GM once told me he's Jay Cutler with much more talent. He's moody. He can be condescending. He's not liked by all teammates. We've had multiple call him out. He can be thin-skinned. He can

be defensive. He can be aloof. Here's another thing. Aaron bails. He bails on coaches. He bailed on McCarthy last year. He bails on plays. He led the NFL in throwaways last year. He just bails on stuff. I quit. He quit on McCarthy. He quits on plays.

He's quit on teammates. He won't throw to anybody on this team, not named Jimmy Graham or Devante Adams. That's why they only Buffalo of the 12 playoff teams had more three and outs. Aaron bails on people, coaches, assistants, plays,

teammates that he doesn't like. You can't do that if you want to win on the road. I'll give you an example. Russell Wilson has a great road record. Russell Wilson could constantly bail on his coach. Pete Carroll calls plays like he's Blake Bortles.

Seattle's play calling against Green Bay stunk. They treat Russell Wilson like he's less than Andy Dalton. They try to configure some running game when they're on their fifth string running back. Seattle rarely has a good offensive line. They've had to fire multiple offensive line coaches. They never, ever, it feels like to me, get it right at wide receiver or tight end. They either get guys like, you know, Jimmy Graham too late or receivers you've never heard of. And Russell Wilson never bails on him. He supports his coaches. He supports his teammates. He supports the plays. He fights to the end on every play. You may not like Russell Wilson. Has there ever been a player that fights for every inch on every play? I mean, the kid is so. But that's why Russell Wilson's good on the road. Because on the road, you don't get the weather. You don't get the crowd. You got to fight through stuff. And Russell Wilson is a fighter. Aaron's not. This bails on a play. This bails on a receiver. I don't trust that guy. I don't trust this coach. I don't. I don't trust this coach. I don't trust that play. That's why he's a bad road quarterback. Tony Romo was a fighter. Breeze is a

fighter. Brady's a fighter. Manning's a fighter. Big Ben's a fighter. Aaron's not. Aaron likes it when it's all comfortable and the road isn't about comfort. He's a bailer. I've worked with people like this. Road gets tough, boom, sea crest out. Exit stage right. And I think that goes a long way in explaining why is such a bad road quarterback and why, next to Josh Allen, Green Bay, with Aaron Jones, with Aaron Rogers, with clever bat LaFleur, with DeBonte Adams? Only Buffalo? We had more three and outs? What?

It's what happens when you have a bailer at quarterback. Oh, you don't like him. It's not about that. I think he's a first ballot Hall of Fame, but talent has a ceiling. Quarterback is about toughness, body language, fighting, leadership. There's a million things it's about. It's not just about, hey, this guy's got a great arm. I mean, yes, that's awesome.

Jay Cutler had a great arm. I mean, Jeff George had a great arm. Aaron's better than both, obviously. But the Palm POMB waivers, do we have Aaron Rogers bite, the POMB waivers out in full force today for Aaron Rogers? So, you know, go to your local radio station near Milwaukee to defend Aaron Rogers.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Colin right, Colin wrong. You know, I whiff all the time. Got to hold myself accountable. So every Monday, we used to just do it in the football season, but now we do it year-round. Where was I right, where was I wrong, last seven, ten days.

Where Colin was right? We said Green Bay better be aggressive early because San Francisco's going to smell blood. And Aaron Rogers and Green Bay in that first half looked a lot like Minnesota. Dink and Dunk, take no risks, and San Francisco smelled it. For the second time, Green Bay played it safe in the first half against the Niners. I don't think you can do it. When you fight Tyson, you got to.

to land something in the first round, or he'll sense it and smell it. By the way, in the second half, they took more shots, and in the second half, they delivered on some of their shots. You cannot be safe. You watch Kansas City against San Francisco, and they're going to struggle to block that defensive front of San Francisco. They're going to take big shots down the field to force San Francisco to back off, and I think Matt LaFleur played it safe. Aaron dumped it off too much and the Niners sensed it. Where Colin was wrong. Well, being reliant on Patrick Mahomes apparently is working.

I've said before about Kansas City. My concern is when you have a great quarterback, teams sometimes can get too reliant on their great quarterback. And Mahomes has led Kansas City in rushing in both playoff games. He is an outlier. He's got the right coach and the right weapons. They are the exception. They didn't run the ball much at one point yesterday.

they ran it three or four straight times and Tony Romo just started laughing. I don't love football teams. I think Seattle too often is built for Russell Wilson to save the world. I think Aaron Rogers six, seven years ago, they were too reliant on Aaron Rogers. Kansas City at times can be a little reliant on Patrick Mahomes saving the day, but they're in the Super Bowl. So what do I know? Where Colin was right?

We've been on this Niner thing for a couple years here. We said Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be a big success. We were right. He's in a Super Bowl. we said Kyle Shanahan is the best young coach in football, not Sean McVey. And we like Sean McVey, but we said Shanahan's the genius here. We said they'd be the most improved team in the NFL this year. Now, I didn't think they'd get to the Super Bowl,

but we said they were the safest double-your-win bet in Vegas. So we've been on this thing for a couple years. I watched Kyle Shanahan go from team to team to quarterback to quarterback and just made everybody better. Their growth is faster than I predicted, but we're not shocked they're here and we kind of called it a couple years ago. Watch out. This is the future potentially of the NFC, not the Rams.

Where Colin was wrong. Another Tom Brady's story about him being open to leaving. I thought this story kind of had fake news written all over it. You know, it's Tuesday, Wednesday, let's bring a Tom Brady story out. But there was a story this weekend that he's unhappy with his salary and he's not going to be the 15th highest paid quarterback anymore. And when stuff like that comes out, that can come from an agent or Tom.

That's sending a message. So I think the market's small for Tom because of his age and lack of athletic ability as offensive lines have gotten worse over the last five years, thanks to the new CBA and spread football in college. But there's more here than I thought initially, and it's not going away. And people I trust are breaking more stories on him.

So it's a real thing. Where Colin was right? Speaking of old quarterbacks, Philip Rivers has moved to Florida. Florida. And I think that signals the end of his charger run. Listen, when you're old, unathletic and mistake prone, football's not built for you anymore. And we had said this during the season. Like, let's move off this. You know, it's Tom's unathletic. Philip takes it to another level. He's the most unathletic

quarterback right now in the league. He's had a great career. He's going to get Hall of Fame votes. I love him. And I do think, you know, I think 15 years ago he would have gotten another big contract. I think the shelf life now for his style. A lot of mistakes, not really athletic, not a lot of great old lines out there is limited. They're going to get a Justin Herbert or a twoy. They're going to be fine. They're going to move up in the draft if they have to to get a quarterback. But we called this, we said early in the season, this thing has run its course.

They're moving to a new stadium. They've got to add some juice to the franchise. Where Colin was wrong. Boy, LSU proved me wrong in about a million levels. So Ed Orgeron wins a natty. I didn't see that coming. Joe Brough is going to be the number one pick. I didn't see that coming.

LSU is going to bow 15 and O and be led by their offense. What? I didn't see that coming. Talk about off-brand. LSU being the Kansas City Chiefs of college football, it's like the Big 12 deciding to play defense. Everything about this, Orgeron, Joe Burrow, LSU becoming a progressive offense.

It just is so off-brand, but they deserve all the love. They were clearly better than Clemson. And that's hard for me to say because I really like Clemson, but they were absolutely top to bottom, a much better team than Clemson. And I was wrong. Where Colin was right? I love me some Andy Reid.

I mean, Andy Reid doesn't have to prove anything to anybody. He gives Belichick fits. Belichick hates playing him. He's now taking two teams to the Super Bowl, one in the AFC, one in the NFC. By the way, he has the second best record in the history of the NFL in bi-weeks. So good luck to San Francisco because Andy Reid is tough when he doesn't get extra time. When you give the scientist the schematic genius another four or five days in the film room, it's going to be all sorts of wizardry and crazy stuff.

I love this guy. we've spent way too much time. Well, this guy didn't win this. Charles Barclay didn't win a title. So it's one of the top 20 basketball players in my life. Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl. Did you ever see Dan Marino play? You don't think it was any good?

Well, Andy Reed, Andy Reid until Patrick Mahomes has taken a bunch of B-minus quarterbacks and won the conference, got in the conference championships, won Super Bowls. Love the guy. Where Colin was wrong. Jason Garrett, I don't get. So you win 56% of your games. You only had one losing season. You're the coach of the Dallas Cowboys, biggest brand in the NFL.

You win three division titles. And, you know, you weren't even a disaster this year. You did some good things offensively. And instead of just sitting out, playing a little golf, you rush to be a coordinator for a rival in your division to a coach, Joe Judge, who's never even been an offensive coordinator. It seems like a weird brand play to me. I mean, Ron Rivera being a defensive coordinator for Cincinnati. I just, I don't know.

I didn't, I saw this story and I thought, why would Jason Garrett? He doesn't know if Joe Judge can coach. That's a weird. Maybe he feels good in division. He knows the defenses. He knows Dallas's defense. A little revenge at Dallas. I don't know.

I thought he and Jerry were tight, but this feels weird. Where Colin was right. Josh McDaniels, I'm not as high on him as all you media people and fans are. Five job openings. He got one interview. I think what he did to the Indianapolis Colts, accepting a job, then bailing on him, did not sit well in the National Football League. People have a great deal of respect for Chris Ballard and Frank Reich. And that organization, Indianapolis, has always been a great NFL franchise and a city. And I think Josh McDaniels has some Lane Kiff. And I think he's smart and talented. But I think it's a love, hate thing inside the league. And I don't think it's a co-eatheaval. that he didn't even get interviews at other places. And I never thought he was a good fit in Cleveland. People in Cleveland are all freaked out that he didn't get the job. I do not think he was a good fit with an impulsive owner in Cleveland,

an impulsive quarterback. I think he can be an impulsive coach. I think Kevin Stefansky's a better fit. Where Colin was wrong. Jimmy Butler in Miami. The heat or the number two seed in the east. The malcontent. Jimmy Butler can't get along with anybody.

And then he goes to Miami for the most demanding franchise. Like, they still practice two hours a day, and he gets along with everybody. He's having a great year. 20.7 rebound, six assists. You know, he's a guy that has just struggled. You know, in Philadelphia, all these players, and he had a great role in Philadelphia, and he got the ball in big spots. He didn't like it.

He's like, okay, I'll go to Miami. I'm thinking Pat Riley, and Pat Riley is bottom line, and Eric Spolstra's bottom line, and he works. He's having a great year. Miami's been, you know, they drafted a really good kid. They got some good young players. They play their butt off. Jimmy Butler plays hard.

And Miami is young and they play hard. And it all works. And I didn't see it coming. Where Colin was right. So when Connor McGregor got scheduled to fight, Cowboys Soroni, and all these UFC sycophant fanboys are like, oh, it's going to be unbelievable. It's a set-up fight. Connor McGregor wants a set-up fight before face. Mayweather again. That's why he's talking Mayweather and Mayweather's surfacing here in the last month.

I never bought into Cowboy Soroni. Here's earlier last week. Connor McGregor makes his return to the Octagon against Donald Cowboy Soroni on Saturday. I'm very interested. I don't know much about Cowboy Soroni. Goulet, you know anything about old... He's 36, 13 and 0. Who is that? Seroni. That's not a good record. 3613 and 0. McGregor's 21-4-0. Oh, Soroni's baloney. He doesn't have anything.

Well, the fight lasted like 25 seconds. And, you know, he's got nice abs and everything. But this is just a set-up fight. That's all this. It's a setup fight for Mayweather. And UFC wants to make a bunch of money, and Mayweather and Connor would fight again. And, you know, it's a little bit of a con.

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Oh, Miami is fun. Tony Gonzalez, you've been in Miami before. Oh, been venvenito on Miami. Remember the Will Smith song? Of course. Miami's Joy live there. You look like a guy that when you lived in Kansas City, you hung out in Miami a little bit. I was there a lot.

I almost moved there. I was looking at property. when I was a little bit younger, and thank God that didn't happen. That would have been a disaster. I wouldn't be sitting here right now. You'd have played nine years in the week and retired. Just done. Kansas City actually did you some good.

Just boring enough for you to concentrate on football. I think so. Let's talk about Kansas City yesterday. There was a moment yesterday when Mahomes went back, and I think he found like it was Sammy Watkins or it was somebody over the top. I forget now at this point. Sammy. Sammy.

And it was like in that moment, you're like, okay, Kansas City. said he's going to the Super Bowl. Done. And what did it feel like to you? Oh, I don't know if you follow me on the social media stuff. But, yeah, I was so excited for them for so many reasons. I mean, first of all, Andy Reid, the chief fans, 50 years, the Hunt family, watching them after, watching them celebrate up in the box.

I mean, this team doing something that, you know, I was there for 12 years and we wanted it so bad. And you were on some good teams. Some good team, never a great team. This is a different team. This is a different caliber team. And it starts with the quarterback, not against the quarterbacks that I played with, but this guy is a special, special player who's going to be the face of the league for the next 10, 12 years.

And, you know, I'm just so happy for the whole city. It was a fun day. You know, it's interesting. Kansas City reminds me a little of the Packers. The Packers have more titles because historically they've been better at quarterback. Len Dawson and now Patrick Mahomes are special, but they had Bart Starr, Farr, Aaron Rogers. but when Green Bay didn't have great quarterback play, they went about 20 years where they were pretty average.

I think people just don't realize Kansas City's been brilliantly owned, the Hunt family. When you were there, you wanted, after all those years, you got tired of it, but they treat their players great. There's been so many great Kansas City Chiefs. If you did a Kansas City Chiefs all-star team, it's like 20 of the best players in league history. Yeah.

And you were treated well. That was, it was unbelievable. The first class organization, the Hunt family, like you said, remember Lamar Hunt, the owner. God rest of soul, he used to come around before the games and go up to everybody and shake their hand, no matter who you were on the team, and he knew everything about you being,

hey, how you doing, Tony, how's October? How's Nico? How's your kid? I mean, he knows everything about the players because he cares about the players. And that starts from the top. And then, obviously, the fans, second to none. I know people talk about the,

greatest fans in the NFL, but they're such diehards. They live and die with that team. That's what I'm so happy for the whole city, because they're on fire right now. Let's go to San Francisco. So yesterday, Mahomes had a ton of time to throw. The Titans just don't, they don't generate a pass rush. So you have this gifted Kansas City team with all these weapons and nine seconds to throw. San Francisco is not going to give you more than about three and a half if you get that. Go, if you ever played against the team, I felt yesterday, was almost not a fair fight physically. San Francisco is bigger and stronger, and Green Bay is a finesse team. You, your early years in Kansas City, your chiefs teams with Willie Roe, if you had the

best offensive line of football, did you send sometimes on a Sunday? You just knew people didn't want any part of you. No part of you. No party. There's two games I can remember playing against Atlanta. And I think we ran for eight touchdowns, eight touchdowns, eight touchdowns, both running backs, priest Holmes had four and the backup running back. had four, Blaylock, and we were just mashing them. I think we probably threw the ball maybe 10 times just like yesterday for San Francisco and then playing against Baltimore Ravens one time. I think it was Monday Night Football going against Ray Lewis and all those guys.

And I remember Wheel Shields, Hall of Famer, Brian Waters, Willie Roof, they were just mashing them. They want no part of you. You can see when you got the running game like that, as a receiver, a guy who wants to catch the ball, it's you better put your big boy hat on and try to switch them town and go, hey, I'm just not going to catch any balls today. I'm going to block. And I just got to block today. And by, and I felt this yesterday was San Francisco.

You predicted it on the air. This is just not a fair fight. Yeah, it's not fair. I mean, they, they have so many players, um, and, and that running scheme was Shanahan. I got, I got the seat up close when I was out in Kansas City. My first year's there when his dad was coaching out there for the Broncos. And that zone scheme, they would just plug any running back.

Remember guys were coming. I, I can't remember his name. He's coming. He was in the service. Yeah, we were talking about this morning. Mike Anderson, I think that was. Mike Anderson. Yeah, he's just plug and playing. All those guys were getting, you know, 150 yards and they're going over a thousand yards.

It didn't matter who they put back there. Nothing against Moistert and congratulations to him. But that scheme that they have is second to none. And then on the defensive side of the ball, it's not fair. It's that Ferrari front four, I called it, where you can get pressure with four guys and drop everybody back,

including Richard Sherman, well, and best ever play, you're going to have a successful defense. That's going to be Kansas City's biggest obstacle on offense is being able to get open against that front four. They're going to have to protect. When you would play, and Kansas City is going, Patrick Mahomes for one of the few times this year, is going to be rushed. Patrick's going to be under duress. When you went into games knowing you were facing a good defensive front, do you just shorten your routes?

How does it change how you get Travis Kelsey? You're Travis Kelsey in the Super Bowl. How will it change for him? I think they're going to do a lot quicker routes, some crossing routes, maybe a lot of chipping too. Sometimes you'll see maybe the extra tight end come in or Travis where he'll bang. You got to get a bang on Bosa because that guy is relentless. Probably I've never seen a more dominant rookie come in on the defensive side of the ball. I've never seen it, what he's been able to do.

So you definitely got to bang him and then get out to the flats. Andy Reid is a genius, though. he's got two weeks to prepare for this defense. And I think he's going to come up with a good plan. By the way, you had a couple of buys in your career and you lost games. Andy's the second best coach in league history on a buy. So he's obviously very, if you give the genius another week to go into his laboratory. But there are downsides.

Kansas City offensively is clever. There's some timing. Did you like buys? Like a Super Bowl is two weeks. It doesn't affect teams the same. I can make an argument, a physical team like the Niners love a buy that can get a little healthier. Kansas City would be like, listen, we're a track meet here. We want to play every week.

In your career, did you like buys? You like it because at the time, you're like, okay, well, then we only have to win two games to get to the Super Bowl instead of three games. And you think, okay, it's going to make you healthier. But there's nothing like going out there and playing to keep you. It's like anybody who's played basketball out there. You can't take a couple weeks off. And your shots is not going to be the same. Right.

Unless you have the extreme focus and where you're practicing like you play Michael Jordan type stuff. Not every team does that. Bill Belichick type stuff. That's why I always think they do well with the bike because Bill doesn't give them an inch. He says, no, we're going to go out there like we're preparing and we're going to practice, you know, the month, the Wednesday before the week of preparation. We're going to practice just like we're going to practice that next Wednesday. And if you guys don't do it, then I'm going to yell at you and embarrass you in front of everybody. And that starts, I think, with the stars on the team.

And that's where Mahomes are going to have to come in. Kelsey, Clark on defense, maybe Suggs, who has some experience with this, just keeping everybody focused because they're about to go through a whole bunch of distraction down there. Now, what was the biggest game you ever played in? NFC championship game. The Super Bowl, Bill Romanowski told me one time, he goes, I don't remember the first one. He goes, the first quarter, I just flash bulbs, and I was in the second quarter.

Yeah. Like, I don't even, the nerves, Mahomes is young, do you press? Did you press a little? Was it different? You know, for me it wasn't. Because I, you know, I learned a long time ago when I went through my dropped, second year in the league dropping all those passes. When you study the greats and you see someone like Michael Jordan or Jerry Rice, you hear the words out of their mouth. saying you practice how you're going to play in the game.

And that way when the game shows up, there is no difference. There's nothing to prepare for it. And that's how I prepared. I especially towards the end of my career. You were a grinder. I was grinding it out because I knew how precious it was to get to the playoffs. New England is an outlier. It doesn't happen.

Most teams, we can go to the playoffs a couple years and then your window closes. And then, you know, you never know when you're going to get back. So for me, I was practicing like a madman. that week, focusing really just like it was the first game of the season versus the last game of the season. And then when I showed up in the games, the game would slow down because that's what you want. You want the game to be slow. That's when you know you're in control when you're prepared, when you're not nervous. There's not too much excitement there. It's just business as usual one play at a time. Tony Gonzalez, the Hall of Famer, 17 NFL seasons, 14-time Pro Bowler. I will see you

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