The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Jul 17, 2020

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. What up, welcome in. This is The Herd, wherever you may be in, however you may be making this part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlie, filling in for Colin Cowherd on a Friday. Will Hobson's going to join us in 15 minutes. No, not the former baseball player, Will Hobson.

Will Hobson is one of the reporters from the Washington Post. The story that dropped yesterday in the afternoon. And we were all kind of waiting for. Would it be the story which ultimately led to Dan Snyder selling the Washington, formerly known as Redskins? Ryan Rusillo is going to join us in one hour. My man John Middilkoff, Three Now Podcast, will join us in two hours. So we got a great show for you.

I have my thoughts on Alex Rodriguez. did he say salary cap? Did he allude to a salary cap? I'll tell you why Alex Rodriguez could quickly become the Jeter, Jordan of New Age Major League Baseball owners if, in fact, he does own

a Major League Baseball team like the New York Mets. We don't know who has the best luck. We know who has the worst luck out of this, all the nonsense from the Washington Redskins. I have a Ben Simmons story for you, man.

And we might have the most interesting best for last that I have had Colin has had in a long time. So we've got an outstanding show for you. Thanks so much for making this part of your day. We're live in Los Angeles and the IHeart radio app on Fox Sports Radio and, of course, on Sirius XM as well. Let me get to this. The story dropped yesterday. Apparently the Washington Redskins, 15 former employees, 14 who are anonymous, one young woman who chose to put her name out there, said,

look, it's a terrible culture, a lot of sexual harassment, degrading behavior. And it's the type of stuff that while there didn't appear to be Me Too, mindful, me too, like, you know, quid pro quo. It was just sophomoric is understating what a bad look it is. for men in the workplace. It just is. Between comments being made and degrading behavior and comments about what women are wearing, I would love to say this is from 20 years ago, but 20 years ago it wasn't really acceptable. Dan Snyder, the owner of the Washington Redskins, released this statement earlier today.

The described behavior in yesterday's Washington Post article has no place in our franchise or society. The story has strengthened my commitment to setting a new culture, and standard for our team, a process that began with the hiring of Coach Rivera earlier this year. Beth Wilkinson and her firm are empowered to do a full and unbiased investigation and to make any and all requisite recommendations. Upon completion of her work, we will institute new policies and procedures and strengthen our human resources infrastructure to not only avoid these issues in the future, but most importantly created team culture that is respectful and inclusive to all. It's Dan Snyder, who's the owner, majority owner of the Washington

football team formerly known as the Redskins. So look, they're going through a complete makeover. And with the exception of one of the men, a guy named Dennis Green who was accused of sexual harassment, with the exception of Dan Snyder, apparently, again, I can only go by what's written in the article, ordering, you know, berating some of these executives, although no specifics in terms of the berating was given, with this as the exception. Dennis Green apparently was a college cheerleader, and so in front of other people,

he told Dennis Green to do cartwheels when Dan Snyder was upset. So, but again, this isn't, this isn't, there isn't the, the depth and of negativity in regards to racism like we saw with the L.A. Clippers. And for people in the NFL who want to compare it to the Carolina Panthers, who ironically used to employ Ron Rivera. Their former owner was directly accused of making inappropriate remarks of the sexual nature.

So there's a difference there. And look, are there a lot of different things that tick people off about Dan Snyder? Yeah. Yeah. His business partners with the Redskins have already said, we want out. He stuck his heels in the dirt and said we're never bold face you can put it in all caps we're never going to change

the team's nickname that of course has changed or will change he famously charged people to watch at training camp where previously was free like there's lots of things that he has done and he's run the risk of losing sponsors because of many of these details but it it doesn't it doesn't appear that there's a smoking gun in this article, which is going to force him to sell the team. But I walked away and who's the biggest story of the week? Who's the big, right? Pat Mahomes was last week. This week, he was about the franchise tag and guys that got an extension.

And the guy that didn't get an extension, but almost got one at the very last moment, is Dak Prescott. I look at the mess that is the Redskine. And I think to myself, okay, they had two consecutive quarterbacks suffer broken legs, right? They traded for Alex Smith, gave him a big contract, he breaks his leg in such a fashion. He's lucky to walk now. He wants to come back in play, but that seems so far-fetched, right? That was, you're going back two seasons ago.

Then Colt McCoy replaces him. He breaks his leg. Then they draft, they draft Dwayne Haskins, who his own coach says isn't ready. coaches of the Washington Redskins didn't want him. But the owner, Dan Snyder, did. Eventually, they fire the head coach after changing offensive coordinators mid-year. Like, that Redskins thing is a mess. Think about it. The Redskins' best season was 2016 since Dak entered the league.

They were 8, 7, and 1. The Giants since 2016 are 23 and 41. one. Think about that for a second. The Giants, and by the way, that's if you take away, and then if you take away Dax rookie season where Dack won 13 games, or the Cowboys won 13 games, the Giants won 11 made the playoffs. They're actually 12 and 36 the last three years. And over the past two years, the Eagles have suffered through all sorts of dysfunction because of injuries to Carson Wentz came back, maybe a little bit too early from the torn ACL. He wasn't right. They had the Super Bowl hangover.

And then last year, they were so decimated by injuries. They had practice squad guys late in the year, and the Eagles still went to the playoffs. Like, the Cowboys, we want to say that Dak Prescott is a winner. Right? That's always been the, you know, he's a winner. Look at his record. Okay, but they didn't actually win last year. They didn't beat the good teams last year.

I walk away from this Redskins story and say, man, the Redskins are such a complete and utter dumpster fire. How the hell did they even compete? How have they been able to manage with all of this stuff? Because, look, half of the guys that were accused of this stuff have been gone from the franchise since 2015, I believe. Another one left in 2018. And then they fired three more going back when this, I'm sure when the story was first brought to their attention, three more were gone. So, yeah, that insulates Dan Snyder.

unless there is a smoking gun email that says he knew that this behavior was going on and did nothing about it and didn't send it directly to HR or he told HR to shut it down, shut down any investigation, then I think Dan Steiner, he's still going to own the team that's just going to put in new, you know, they're going to say, we change the culture, we put in new HR department, we're going to hire some different people, we're going to be more diverse, not just in terms of race, but sexuality, and we're going to plow head forward. But what do people always say about the Patriots? Well, you know, the Patriots are great, but they play in the AFC East. The AFC East is an epic and abject disaster.

That's true. That's true. But if that's true, why haven't the Cowboys been better? Anybody? Right? Like, Dax's a winner. Only when Zeeq was suspended, they didn't win. That was three years ago.

Yes, they got to the playoffs two years ago. Last year, they did not when they had five wins on their schedule. Two against the Giants, two against the Redskins, and won against the Miami Dolphins early in the year. And honestly, they played the Jets at home. That should have been six. Oh, sorry, the Jets were in New York, my bad.

It doesn't matter. The Jets were awful. Awful. Yes, I know how they finished 5 and 2 with Sam Donald at the end of the season. But the Cowboys were loaded up. Had all these star players. The number one statistical offense in football.

Couldn't beat the Jets. Couldn't beat the Eagles in Philadelphia, the Eagles playing scrubs at wide receiver. And so while I know that you want to, and we will talk about this Redskins story and not just what's been reported, but maybe what wasn't able to be reported because there was a delay between when the story was supposed to drop,

which was yesterday morning and when it actually came out, which means they probably had to go back through and take some things out because there was, threats for litigation. Again, that doesn't mean that it happened in terms of what they were being, and maybe Snyder was being accused of, but it does make you at least suspicious that there's more there and that any real investigation will uncover the more there.

But did we forget what happened with the Giants and Eli and Gino Smith a couple years ago? did we forget that the Giants have been an abject disaster? And yes, the Eagles three years ago won a Super Bowl, but they had the Super Bowl hangover year where Carson Wentz wasn't right coming off ACL. Is it Wenz's team? Is it Foles team? Who do they actually believe in? Yada, yada, yada. Remember, the Eagles had lost so much of their offensive play calling personnel because, you know, some had left for their own jobs.

Like, the Eagles haven't been great over the past two years either. So why aren't the Cowboys, why don't they line up and have six wins or at least five wins every single year, considering what an abject disaster their division has been? Much like people say, well, the Patriots have that benefit. And you know what the Patriots do? The Patriots win their division, usually get a first round by, play at home, and have the benefit of everybody else beaten up on each other before they get somebody to come into their place. and eventually get to the EFC championship game.

That's what works for Bill Belichick. That's what worked for Tom Brady. Have they benefited greatly? Yes. Did, did LeBron James benefit from playing in the Eastern Conference? Of course he did. Of course he did. But he still got to the finals every time.

Yes, he was a prohibitive favorite. Yes, when he went to Miami, it wasn't just about building a super team. It was about tearing down a playoff team in Toronto taking Chris Bosch. It was about tearing down a playoff team in. in Cleveland by leaving and going to Miami. It was about pulling out the last, really one leg of the chair with the Boston Celtics ultimately getting Ray Allen.

So it wasn't just that they built up the heat. It was that they took down most of the competition in the East. So they were prohibited favorites, but they did get to the finals. The NFC East has been a mess. Mess. Abject disaster. regime change in New York, quarterback changes in New York, Redskins quarterback turnstile, complete dysfunctional franchise head coach, not getting along with front office or president of football operations, owner wanting a quarterback, owner trying to fight off keeping a nickname, Eagles have suffered through after a great season, injuries and dysfunction because of the disease of me and all.

that followed winning a Super Bowl. And what do the Cowboys have to show for it? One playoff one. And the expression in the NFL is deals that you want to get done, you get done. And remarkably, the Cowboys did not get a deal done with Dak Prescott. What do they know? They know that they should have been. If he was that good, if they were that good, there should have been more wins and more playoff wins and playoff buys to show for it.

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Thanks so much. Hope you're having a great Friday. C-Man is off for the weekend. So the big story we were all waiting for, and look, there is a, there's an old, and this circles around, centers around D.C., you know, news dump Friday, usually, and this comes from, whether it's White House or other government, bad news, you know, after 4 o'clock on a Friday, you call a press conference or you have a news dump, that's because people, especially on a holiday weekend, people are gone, it gets buried. That wasn't the case for the Washington Post.

This was, we were told it was supposed to drop yesterday morning, it dropped yesterday afternoon, and the revelations are quite alarming. Fifteen former employees of the Washington Redskins basically accused of having a toxic culture, workplace, and sexual harassment. And obviously this coupled with the imminent name change and other issues with the Redskins leaves it very much up for discussion as to whether or not the NFL could step in and say, yeah, Dan Snyder, you've got to sell this football team. Let's get to Will Hobson. He's a sports reporter for the Washington Post.

He joins us in the herd. You can follow him on Twitter at the Will Hobson, Will with two L's. Let's start with this. How long has this article been in the works? More than two years. There was actually a New York Times story in spring of 2018 about how the Redsuits had been selling as a perk for suite holders access to the cheerleaders. And after that story published, we had a few former employees the team reach out to us

and say, you know, it's bigger than just the cheerleaders. It's the sales force. It's the intern. It's every woman who goes through that building. and throughout the summer of 2018, Liz Clark and I interviewed a bunch of former employees. And unfortunately, just back then, we were unable to get anyone on the record, and we couldn't get anything in the way of documentation to support some of the claims we were hearing. So we let it go, and then about two weeks ago, we picked it back up after hearing from one woman

that she was interested in speak on the record, and then getting to documentation, some text messages and documents from a few others. All right, so why did she change her mind? Why did she go on the record? I think that, well, I think one, she's no longer interested in working in professional sports. So there's both, you know, so the women who declined to speak on the record, there was both a fear of getting sued by the pretzims or the guys they were accusing. But then also, you know, a lot of these women want to keep working in pro sports and they feel like if they, if their name is out there, they're going to be perceived by, other teams as

problem employees. Will Hobson joining us, the sports reporter for the Washington Post. We were told it was supposed to drop yesterday morning. It wasn't until the afternoon. Of course, in the meantime, Dan Snyder has hired a lawyer

to investigate. Why the delay? There was no delay on our end. I don't know. Who was telling you the story that's coming out yesterday morning? We put it out as fast as we could. Well, there were, okay, so there there was some, I guess, internet rumors as to this big story. Was that from your side, or do you believe that somebody else did it in order to kind of diminish the story when it ultimately came out?

I don't think there was any, first off, there were rumors definitely weren't coming from our side, which I explained to an outraged person close to team leadership yesterday. I think the rumors developed organically because the Redskins, the three guys abruptly left the organization. They fired two scouts last weekend and didn't put out any information about why, and that's the usual time to release your director of pro personnel and top scout. And then on Wednesday, the team's longtime announcer just really abruptly retired. And he's the type of guy that you would think, if he was going to retire, hire they'd have some type of event for him and he just released a statement and that was it so i think

people really started to speculate with what what is going on here that the two or three guys are just getting thrown overboard and in pretty rapid fashion there's there's uh the obvious question is how much of this like dan sniner what did he know when did he know and what did he do about it what were you able to to ascertain i mean most of the women i'd say mostly all the women was both said, you know, I can't, I can't say with a degree of certainty that Dan knew this stuff was going on. Dan, they describe as kind of a loop, not spending a pun time in the office. And what he does, he only talks to, you know, the top executive staff. But the women do, where they do lay the blame for this conduct with Dan is, A, they had basically a non-existent human resources department that didn't have real policies in place to deal with this type of behavior.

and then B, they say that they think he just sets a tone of verbal abuse. They describe him as belittling his executives and that that is like a trickle-down effect where they're dishing out the behavior that they're getting from their boss. Will Hobson, a sports reporter for The Washington Post. He and Liz Clark did this fascinating piece, which looks into the culture and dysfunctional culture of the Washington Reskins. It's the article that everyone is talking about. Look, this is not your first rodeo in terms of professional sports and front office culture.

How prevalent do you believe this behavior is in other franchises? I mean, I can't really say. Well, I'll answer that question this way. I had some women that we spoke with with this story who do work for other NFL teams say, you know, this is common. You deal with this everywhere. And I do think to a certain extent that that rings true. but mostly everyone who spoke to acknowledge that these issues were particularly acute

in the Redskins front office. And I mean, I spoke to one woman in particular that works for an NBA franchise now. It says it's night and day. There's nothing like that going on over here. Ron Rivera is in charge of changing the culture, right? That's what Dan Snyder said. Like, he's going to come in and change the culture.

As you said, you guys just picked this up two weeks ago. did anybody who's currently with the Redskins notice any change in the culture since Coach Rivera has come over from Carolina shortly I think before the Super Bowl? You know, I'm honestly not talking to too many current employees

and that is something we do want to do and that's something we certainly are very interested that is to take the temperature in that organization right now. But they're not allowing those people to talk is that fair? Yeah, I mean that's typically it's typically how it goes. And that's not unusual, nor what I suggest it's inappropriate.

But that doesn't mean we can't still try. Will Hobson joining us. He's a sports reporter for the Washington Post. The story is out. By the way, this is just a quick aside. I actually support that's behind the paywall. It's such a story that everybody wants to talk about. I know that's often discussed. But it's, you know, it's one of those things that within the media, should it be behind, should it not? I mean, we're trying to get people to buy and, you know, and read your work on a daily or weekly basis. Sorry, you've got to sign up behind the paywall. Having read it, I thought the, here's the part where it did correlate in terms of his behavior is copied from others.

Dennis Green, one of the men who resigned, right? Did I read this right? Did he told him to do cartwheels because he was a college cheerleader? And did Dennis Green actually do the cartwheels? That's the allegation. was, Dennis related that anecdote to employees after the meeting. She wasn't in the room, so it's unclear if that actually happened. But other folks who are familiar with Dan said that type of conduct could absolutely have

happened. It doesn't feel like there's any denials, at least we've seen, of these allegations. Have there been? No, the individuals have, well, the only one who did speak with us, Former Chief Operator Officer, Ms. Gershman, he did deny the conduct alleged. But, yeah, I mean, with the other scouts, we're talking about things that, you know, text messages with our incidents that happened in, you know, in a bar to Indianapolis full view of multiple journalists and other team officials. Yeah.

Last thing, as you mentioned, that Dan Snyder's seen as being mostly aloof, although he did set in place a culture based upon his verbal abuse of the people. that he was in direct contact with, with those text messages and with any other information. Is there any direct link to Dan Snyder? At this point, no. No. What do you think should happen from the NFL standpoint? I mean, I think it makes sense to me for the league to monitor this independent review that the Red T's are doing to ensure that actually is independent and not, you know, what you do see in corporate

America a lot where a company brings in, quote-unquote, outside law firm to do these independent reviews that amazingly always seem to find that all the bad stuff was the fault of all the guys they already fired. And going forward, everything's really fine. Well, listen, tell Liz, great job on this. Really interesting and in-depth read, outstanding reporting and journalism. Thanks for joining us in the herd. My pleasure, thanks, much. Will, Will Hobson joining us from the Washington Post. Look, I do think it's fascinating. You know, obviously ownership and leadership has a say in setting and place the culture.

And how about Ron Rivera, right? Ron Rivera goes from the culture of Carolina where the owner has to sell the team because he sexually harasses women within the organization. Rivera goes to the Redskins. and the big thing with the Redskins was this. Will he have the power? The criticism of working for the Washington Redskins, or Washington formerly known as the Redskins,

is, you know, look, you can say and do whatever you want, but at the end of the day, Dan Snyder, owner's going to own. That front office, the coaching staff did not want Duane Haskins as their quarterback, but Dwayne Haskins went to high school with one of Dan Snyder's kids, and Dan Snyder was absolutely, convinced this is the guy.

I actually think Ron Rivera, I mean, it's his football team. It means it's, it's, I mean, his football franchise, football franchise to go, I mean, he wasn't quite in, um, wasn't like he was in Shawshank prison and he's, and he's, you know, climbing through a pile of, of feces like Andy Dufrain did. And Carolina wasn't that bad. But Carolina did go through an ownership change. Cam Newton had been injured. They did kind of have these pieces that didn't fit together.

They had all these mass retirements coming up of, you know, Luke Kinkley had to retire early. And there was some ugliness there to now go to Washington. And granted, the pieces are not set in place. But he arguably got the best player in the draft, best talent in the draft. And he now has, he'll have almost autonomy. Almost autonomy.

Remarkable. Good for Ron Rivera. People question, why would you take that job? You'll never have a say. He's going to get to pick the nickname. Pick the nickname. Pick all of the front office staff. Pick all the marketing staff.

Anybody he wants. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Doug Gottlieb. In for Colin. This is the herd. Saw this. apparently,

apparently during a conference call Alex Rodriguez among the bidders for possible purchase of the New York Mets called for baseball players to accept some type of revenue sharing system that is tied to a salary cap

and sparked quick opposition from the union. Now, keep in mind he never said the words salary cap. They never said the word salary cap. Here's what he did say. The only way it's going to happen is if they get to the table and say, number one goal, let's get from $10 to, excuse me, from $10 to $15 billion, then we split the economics evenly.

This was Thursday during a conference call. But that's the type of conversation that instead of fighting and fighting against each other, there's too much competition out there right now. Earlier this morning, Rodriguez had this tweeted out response yesterday. I was asked about the CBA expiring in 2021. I answered honestly but never mentioned the word salary cap. I suggested on the call that both sides, players and owners,

worked together to make baseball as big as the NFL and the NBA. I've been in contact with Tony Clark, the executive director of the MLBPA, to make sure that we're aligned in taking our sport to the next level and showcasing the world's best athletes. So Alex Rodriguez, who of course famously signed the biggest contract in the history of sport, not once but twice,

is seen by many as a hypocrite. Hey, you benefited from no salary cap. Why shouldn't we benefit for no salary cap? Well, by the way, that's what Tony Clark had to say. Alex benefited as much as anybody from the battles. This union fought against owners' repeated attempts to get a salary cap. Now he's attempting to become an owner himself, and his perspective appears to be different,

and that perspective does not reflect the best interests of the players. I will tell you this. There's a couple of flaws to the no salary cap ever option that the Major League Baseball Players Association would like you to believe. First of all, there is a luxury tax, which though it's not a hard salary cap, it does cause teams, even New York Yankees, to be much more financially cautious than they used to be. Secondly, there is no ceiling, but there is no floor. Whether it was the Astros when they tanked, going back to 2013, or the Miami Marlins the past couple of years under Derek Jeter.

Like shedding salary to pay nothing to nothing. And then, you know, you get the rich get taxed and you get to benefit from it. You put a team out there that cannot compete. That only happens in terms financially with no salary cap. It's one of the big misconceptions about the NFL salary cap. They had a non-capped season, non-capped season. And there was substantial number of players that thought happy days are here. We're going to get paid.

And what happened? Teams didn't spend money. Everyone got lowballed. And it was a disaster for the players. So, of course, they won a salary cap. Now, Major League Baseball has never had one. And the second you say revenue sharing, revenue sharing to MLBPA means salary cap.

But keep in mind, Alex Rodriguez is quickly becoming a Derek cheater of Michael Jordan. star players who got paid a lot of money they get to the other side of the table and like these contracts don't make any sense why would I spend all this money for this many years all of a sudden you open up the books you're like holy hell this is a terrible business model a terrible business model and look I get it because we're sitting there and we're and people are able to say well you know to make a bunch of money when you sell the team what the hell is the purpose of buying the team? Like this is not a house that you're going to go and flip.

Like, you know, I went in and I did it. And I did the kitchen, put in some new floors. You know, I was just like, I was just like, what's it, Terrick and what's his ex-wife's name down in Orange County? Christina and Terrick, right? Terrick and Christina? Yeah, we just, we went in and we scraped it, we flipped it. Like, that's not what you do with a baseball. You get a baseball team.

So you own a baseball team. I get the meds for bill, do a bill. I'm trying to flip them for like three. in two years so I don't pay capital gains. No, that's not the way it works. Nobody does that. Because if you do, you'll never own a professional sports team ever again. They don't let you flip teams.

I bought the Mets. And then I went, I was thinking about buying an NBA team. And I was like, no, they want stability. So you got to raise $2 billion in order to buy the team. You put in your own cash and then you look at the books. You're like, wait. Wait, this is losing. money every time we try it out there? I'm supposed to sign a long-term contract to some guy who's

not on steroids anymore, so he's going to get worse as he gets older? Yeah, no thanks. There's the expression, ain't no phone when the rabbit has the gun, but how interesting is it when a player becomes an owner or perspective on it. It also should be pointed out that Alex Rodriguez, his chameleon side, he's one of those guys that fits into any room. Oh, yeah. Oh, now I'm an owner. okay now I'll be financially reasonable. When I'm a player, it's all about getting as much money as possible. When I'm a Yankee, I'm all about the Yankees.

And when I was a Ranger, I was all about the Rangers. That's who Alex is. And he's been very successful with it because he's a great ballplayer. He's good looking. And he's bright enough to know what he should know and have people around him that fill in the blanks.

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Listen to the Cliford Show on the, the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. Let's get to the story of the day. Doug Gottliebind for Collins to herd. The Washington Redskins culture is front and center on the front page of most every newspaper and online website. That's because people don't like Dan Snyder.

Many people didn't like the Redskins nickname. They're going to change the nickname. People wanted to change the owner. And the Washington Post did a really, well done expose in which 15 former employees, one who went on the record, 14 who did not, claimed to have been verbally or sexually or physically harassed during their time with the Washington Redskins.

It should be pointed out that everyone who's accused of wrongdoing in the article is no longer with the Washington Redskins. and as Will Hobson told us from the Washington Post, one of the two reporters, they circled back around to the story just two weeks ago, just two weeks ago, when suddenly one of the women wanted to go on the record, she wanted to go on the record,

they had a story, they went and dialed up, you know, they got 14 other people, and this was what happened. Okay, let me start with this, when Will Hobson told me that it wasn't until two weeks ago that they went back to a story that they couldn't get any collaboration on for the last two and a half, three years.

What else happened two weeks ago? The discussion, the renewed discussion about changing the nickname and Dan Snyder's quote, you know, put it in all caps, we're never changing the name. This is, again, it doesn't mean that the accusations are false. Both of these things can be true, that the. accusations can be true. It led to these men being fired, rightfully so. And the timing of it, it wasn't like a, it's not like a coup d'etat. The timing of it is basically people have had enough of Dan Snyder. I don't think this rises to the level where he's going to lose,

he lose the ability to own an NFL team. I mean, these stories come out all at one. You know, within the last two weeks, minority owners want out, 40, they own 40% of the team. They want out. These are friends of Dan Snyder who had done business with him. The team conducted an internal review to change the name, apparently something that had been going on anyway, and Ron Rivera had been a proponent of. And then you got this stuff like all happening at once. Come on, man, I was born at night, not last night.

None of this stuff would have happened if Dan Snyder was a great dude that people liked and didn't want to see him lose the team. I don't see him losing the team. But what I do see is a really, really, really tough road for Dwayne Haskins. Now, by all accounts, Dwayne Haskins has in whatever we call this sort of offseason, he's matured some. He's been a better leader. He started to grow into being the veteran quarterback of the Washington yet to be named football team formerly known as the Washington Redskins. Duane Haskins played in nine games last year, completed 58 and a half percent of his passes, seven touchdowns, seven interceptions.

of those games, they did win. They did win two, right? They won, he had two starts in which he won. And one of them, of course, was against the Carolina Panthers. But I believe that was after Ron Rivera had lost his gig, right? That was after he was fired. I mean, look, there wasn't, Dwayne Haskins is a guy that's a classic thrower. And I think Urban Meyer was on the herd earlier this week, and he said the best prospect he'd ever recruited was Dwayne Haskins when he signed him out of high school.

And Dwayne Haskins threw 50 touchdown passes playing for Urban Meyer. Like, look, Irvb Meyer knows what he's doing a little bit. He knows football players. He's had Alex Smith. He's had Dwayne Haskins. And he raved about his talent, even though he said, like, look, he's not really ready. So I look at this thing and I'm, I think Dwayne Haskin's. has got a top uphill climb.

The way it works in professional sports and somewhat in collegiate in sports is you got to have a rabbi in the room. You got to have a guy who believes in you who drafted you. Well, the GM or president, Bruce Allen's no longer there. Nobody who is in the scouting department, you know, the director of pro scouting is one of the guys that was fired. Coaching staff is all new. and while Ron Rivera to this point has said it's Dwayne Haskins job, like look, Alex Smith still wants to come back and play. Don't know if that's possible.

Remember, Kyle Allen started for the Panthers last year and Ron Rivera traded for him. Now, is Kyle Allen the classic backup? Absolutely. I thought it was curious that Ron Rivera didn't reach out and wait for Cam Newton to be cut. Maybe that says something about Cam Newton. Maybe it says what he feels about Dwayne Haskins.

But Dwayne Haskins' biggest supporter, his biggest fan, is Dan Snyder, the still owner of the Washington football team. But as I told you last hour, like, look, Dan's not going to have a lot of say in this thing. They're going to have an HR department, and the HR department's going to be super, super powerful. otherwise they're in trouble.

He's going to have new members of the front office. Oh yeah, and Ron Rivera is bringing in anybody and everybody who he liked and he worked with in Carolina. And while Kyle Allen can be kind of a teacher, Kyle Allen is, it's not like he's one of these 40-year-old grizzly veterans who is okay not playing anymore. He wants another shot. so too does Alex Smith Dwayne Haskins hasn't lost the advocacy of Daniel Snyder just Daniel Snyder's voice within the room has been mostly muted

and then you combine that there's a new coaching staff and then you combine the fact that look they're in a division where you would think the giants are getting better the cowboys are loaded and the Eagles should be Eagles should be back this year I think it's a tough road for the dude and he's never had great feet.

He's been a really, really good thrower. I mean, he's not a crazy athlete. But what he is, he's kind of classic pocket thrower within a depth touch. But remember, when he was a superstar, he wasn't a star, he was a superstar at Ohio State. Look at the dudes he was throwing to. They had pros. Everybody else in the Big Ten had Joe's. Now, of a sudden, you don't have that advantage.

So I look at Dwayne Haskins and I think, man, he was set up to fail last year because Jay Gruden and his staff didn't really want him. And Jay Gruden's offense was so complex. Now you give him his second offense in two years with a staff that didn't draft him. Doesn't mean they don't like him, but they didn't draft him so they don't have any kind of equity with them. But they carry in whatever bias they have after repairing for him and seeing him. when he played against Carolina, 13 at 25, 147 yards, no touchdown passes, complete just 52% of his passes. And in a league where the move is towards more athletic quarterbacks,

not just Lamar Jackson types, but guys that can move around and be athletic in and outside of the pocket throwing the football, that's not who Dwayne Haskins is. He's not an athlete. He's a classic thrower. I don't love it for it. I feel like it's an uphill climb. And I feel like the changing of a culture is going to be an adverse situation for Dwayne Haskins. Through no fault of his own.

He wasn't part of any of this front office culture. He wasn't any part of that nonsense. Now, maybe he can rise above and be a leader and they all get behind him, but they didn't draft him. And the one guy who stood on the desk and said, taking this guy is the owner, and he doesn't have the swing he used to have. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.

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