The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Jul 27, 2020

Episode Date: July 27, 2020

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Starting point is 00:02:37 This is The Herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. I love weekends where big trades happen in sports. and increasingly they're happening in the NFL. Used to be an NBA and baseball thing. The NFL's got a lot of young general managers and they like trading players and that wasn't the NFL.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We grew up with Joy Taylor, but the NFL now is a trading league. It's like maybe even to a greater level than baseball and basketball. This particular NFL NFL off season has been like an NBA free agency period. It's incredible and it's fun. It's a lot of movers and shakers.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Now usually I'll start. my show with this today. Usually if a really good team gets a great player, we celebrate it. I'm from the Pacific Northwest. I felt it was kind of desperate. It felt like Seattle was saying, all right, we've done such a poor job building our offensive and defensive lines. We've kind of whiffed on so many first round picks. Let's just get a big headline and a big star and maybe it can cover our arse. Listen, I know he's expensive. I don't want to pay a ton for a safety, but he is great. I wouldn't give up two first rounds and a third and a starter for a safety. But Seattle does this if they believe he gets us to a Super Bowl. Now, Honey Badger was really
Starting point is 00:04:01 valuable to the Chiefs this year. I mean, he's a guy that really solved the back end of their defense and Jamal Adams plays a lot like him. Seattle's going to be very good this year. I'm not disputing that. But Seattle only won one game last year all year by more than one score. I'm going to throw something up if you think Seattle is a Super Bowl team. They had 11-1 position, possession, and wins. That doesn't happen. That's just insane. That'll never happen again. And whereas San Francisco, the Niners outscored people by 169 points, Baltimore outscored people by 249 points. Seattle outscored people all year by seven points. Folks, they got holes on this roster, namely their offensive and defensive lines. And Jamal Adams is going to,
Starting point is 00:04:51 it's a big swing. It's a big swing. It's a big. swing and it's also a big salary cap eating swing and listen I kind of feel like Seattle's trying to make up ground for a lot of bad picks in the first round and allowing their offensive and defensive lines to erode God in division just stay in their division San Francisco is so much better than Seattle on the O line and defense line it's not even close it's not even close and Seattle knows it we are at such a deficit O line and D line we got to make it up. Now, this morning, would I rather be the Seahawks than the Jets?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Of course I would. I've got Russell Wilson. I got Pete Carroll. And Jamal Adams, Bobby Wagner, and Russell Wilson are playmakers in their prime. So yes, I'd rather be the Seahawks than the Jets this morning. But that's not the Seahawks standard being better than the New York Jets. That's not their standard. Their standard is Kansas City, Andy Reed and Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Their standards, Baltimore. Lamar and John Harbaugh on that secondary. Their standard is the Saints. Their standard is the Niners. And all four of those teams, I think, not only have better O-line and D-line play and better overall rosters and fewer holes, but they also have better vision. I had an NFL exec say to me after this past draft a really good one. What the hell are they doing up there?
Starting point is 00:06:18 I mean, last year at this time, they went and got Chedavian Clowny. Headline, star! Wow! Where's that a year later? Where's that one a year later? I just don't see the vision with Seattle. You know what I see? I see Russell Wilson. And Russell Wilson's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And Russell Wilson makes bad draft picks and a bad O line and an average D-line and a lack of vision work. And I like Pete Carroll. But right now, I think he has too much power in the organization. I think he's the one that makes the one that. these moves and really gets this stuff done. Seattle hasn't had a meaningful playoff win in five years. Yes. Yes, they beat Carson Wenseless Philly last year.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yes, they beat the Lions. Yes, they were outplayed by Minnesota whose kicker missed the chip shot. This is a lot of money. And I don't know the vision. And they got bigger issues and safety isn't one of them. It's a big swing. a huge swing, but it feels to me like it's trying to cover up other issues in the organization. Now, let's take it from a Jets perspective.
Starting point is 00:07:32 The Jets will not be as good this year. Jamal Adams is a really good football player. But the simplest thing I can say about this is that Joe Douglas, the general manager of the Jets, had a very good Saturday. I had an NFL exec say, listen, man, the Steelers got Minka Fitzpatrick. for one first rounder. And we know the Steelers are well run. Seattle spent two first rounders and a third and a starting safety.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Joe Douglas had a very good Saturday for the Jets. But Joe Douglas is in a really bad spot. He's just tearing down from the studs, the organization, to rebuild it. He's got a suboptimal owner. He's replacing a GM that was incompetent. He's got a head coach that appears to be, I don't know, not communicating with his star players. The Jets are in a weird spot. Joe Douglas is their life preserver, highly respected.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Usually here's the way it works. You do what Baltimore or Kansas City is doing. You draft this young quarterback. You pay him nothing for three or four years. And because of that, you can give Lamar all sorts of free agent help and Mahomes all sorts of help. And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, my God. Young quarterback. I'm paying him nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:50 He's got nothing but stars around him. That's what the Jets would like to do because they're not paying Sam normal anything. Instead, Joe Douglas has to come in and undo all of it and let go of star players to get draft picks. Because the owners aren't very good. The coach doesn't communicate. And the previous GM was a disaster. I told you this after last, the draft with the previous GM, I had a GM call me and say it's the worst draft I've ever seen. He goes, after the first pick, it made no sense.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That was two drafts ago. When the Jets didn't fire him before the draft, they let him do the draft, which was awful, then they fired him a couple weeks later. What? So Joe Douglas had a great Saturday, I believe. But the standard for the Jets now, they're not close to the Bills roster. They're not as good as the Patriots. And I don't think by about week seven or eight, they're going to be as good as the dolphins with Tua starting.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It's a fourth place team. The playbook in the NFL is simple. Draft your quarterback in the first round. And when you're not paying him, surrounding him with a bunch of free agents, that got Russell Wilson a Super Bowl. It just got Patrick Mahomes a Super Bowl. This year I'm picking, it gets Lamar Jackson a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And instead, Sam Darnold, they got rid of his star because they just got to tear this down to the studs, start over, and this was the first process. I like Jamal Adams. He's really good. And I do think he fits Seattle. way better than the Jets because Seattle's got leadership and the Jets don't. So for one guy with the Jets, it was a great Saturday, Joe Douglas.
Starting point is 00:10:24 He's terrific. He got a ton for a safety. And it gives them some openings now because Lavian Bell's probably gone in a year and C.J. Mosley, a couple more years, you're not paying anybody. But it is, it is, there now the Jets are one of the seven or eight teams in the NFL. You can just take them and say, okay, let's not worry about them in the Super Bowl. And generally in the NFL, there's only three or four of those. There's about eight, and the Jets are one of them.
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Starting point is 00:14:38 A lot of people believe just because you just historically, you don't get two first round picks, a third round pick, and a starting safety for a safety. regardless of how good the safety is. Minka Fitzpatrick's terrific. Steelers gave up one first round pick. So Seattle probably overpaid. But I will say this about Jamal Adams. When I was a kid growing up, the best second baseman in baseball was Joe Morgan of the Cincinnati Reds,
Starting point is 00:15:02 and he looked like a second baseman. And then the best shortstop was Ozzie Smith. And he was too small to play like a corner position on the infield or didn't have the arm or the size for an outfield. And Ozzie Smith, athletic, that's a shortstop. Joe Morgan, that's a shortstop. Joel Morgan, that's a second basement. And then you start seeing in baseball guys like Arod.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And you're like, oh, he could be a Hall of Famer at short or at third. And short stops now were really good and they had power. And I watched the Dodgers this weekend. They had multiple guys that could play multiple positions. And you're getting, Arod was the first guy. I'm like, oh, he could be a Hall of Famer at two different positions. That's not the way baseball was as a kid. But athletes are bigger and stronger.
Starting point is 00:15:45 and LeBron James has been this in basketball. Oh, you mean he can be a point guard and lead the NBA and assists, or he could just guard your four. LeBron's a positionless basketball player. He's just good. Actually, great, and he's put him anywhere on the floor you want. He'll guard Derek Rose. He'll guard your four.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He'll guard anybody. And here comes Jamal Adams. He's positionless. And you're seeing this more and more. Derwin James of the Chargers is a little like this. Last year, the Jets lined up, Jamal Adams, at linebacker, more than they lined him up at safety. They also lined him up at edge rusher and at linebacker and at strong safety. And he made plays in all of them.
Starting point is 00:16:32 In Pete Carroll's history, he started as a DB coach. Pete Carroll's history is taking really talented young defensive backs and making them stars like Earl Thomas. Pete knows DBs. They got good corners now again. Pete knows DBs. And he is looking at Jamal Adams and saying, I can put this dude all over the field and make plays. And we don't have much of a pass rush anyway. I just got better there. That I get.
Starting point is 00:16:58 That I totally get. Isaiah Simmons, remember the kid out of Clemson that got drafted by Arizona? He is one of these positionless players. And it's not a knock on him. Isaiah Simmons is all over the field. when you get these athletes now, guys used to look like a corner and look like a safety. That's just not the way it is anymore. You get these unique basketball, football, baseball players where you're like,
Starting point is 00:17:22 this guy can play first or third or second. And I think for Jamal Adams, I think Pete Carroll looks at him and think, you know what, I'm not going to get anybody at the end of the first round the next two years that good, that I can mold into my defense and create situational pass rushes, which Seattle, by the way, last couple of years, has struggled with. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. So the NFL has a top 100 players list on NFL.com. They released the top 25 players.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's very interesting how players, what players are impressed by? Players are impressed by big, strong athletes. Of course they are. Because there's a certain, like, fidelity, there's a certain truth inside a locker room. You know, it's like Steph Curry. I love Steph Curry. I think Steph Curry is one of the best players in NBA history. Players look at Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:18:11 they're like, nah, come on, man. Come on. Really? Little skinny Steph Curry? They love Westbrook. Well, Steph Curry's a better player than Westbrook. Westbrook's got a 47-inch vertical. Westbrook is going 100 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:18:23 He's a bigger, just a stronger, more exhilarating athlete. Nobody would dispute that. I mean, Russell, Westbrook, next to Steph Curry, run up and down the court. One guy is Superman. The other guy is, like, fascinating. A fascinating player who's the best shooter of all time. But players prefer Westbrook. over Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:18:43 GMs like the fact that Curry can play with everybody. And everybody's better with Curry and everybody struggles with Westbrook, though Westbrook is unbelievable. And I've said it before. I'd pay to watch him play. He's unbelievable. He's like, MJ LeBron, there's a handful of athletes in NBA history. You're like, there's better than rest of these dudes.
Starting point is 00:18:58 The rest of these dudes are great. So I look at this list of players. Levante, David, at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a linebacker number 100. If he's the 100 best player in this league, the NFL's in good shape because that dude can just, play like he's one of the best young linebackers in football and they have him at a hundred but 13 spots ahead of them they have josh allen the quarterback for buffalo come on now big strong get it
Starting point is 00:19:23 runs over people big arm i get it josh allen's not a top 100 player in the NFL come on now now again players look at him he's six six he can run and i think he has the strongest arm in the NFL. But great players do not unravel against the best teams or coaches. Josh Allen has played the Patriots three times. His completion percentage is 48 percent. His passerating is 56 and he has more picks than touchdowns. That's not what Mahomes or Russell Wilson. That's not what they look like against New England. Now, I'm not saying New England's not a hard out. You know, go ask Jared Gough. They're a tough out. But great football players, Ronnie Stanley is on this list.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He's a left tackle. When Ronnie Stanley, if he plays Khalil Mack, he's not going to unravel. Laramie Tunsell's not going to unravel against the good edge rusher. Now, I'm not saying you'll have your best Sunday, but in 27 NFL starts, Josh Allen has completed 56% of his throws. That's atrocious. That is terrible. I know he can run.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Great. But that's not a time. top 100 football player in the NFL. By the way, Kyler Murray is below Josh Allen. At this point, I would say this about Josh Allen. Josh Allen has a really good coach and I think they have the best defense in the league. I really do.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I think it's better top to bottom than San Francisco. It doesn't have the stars you know or watch on television. But don't confuse yourself. There's 1,700 players in the NFL. I would make the argument Josh Allen is not a top 200 player today. He's not. If Levanti David, the linebacker for the Bucks is 100, Josh Allen's not a top 200 player in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:21:12 He just looks the part. That is just half of it. That may not even be half of it in the NFL. All right. So we got this baseball thing. The Marlins have canceled their game because of the corona spread against Baltimore. Now, most people don't care because these are not good teams. But now postponed are the Yankees and Phillies, and this is a problem.
Starting point is 00:21:34 The advantage the NFL has on all of this, and Joy and I have talked, about this. The NFL can watch the bubble and can watch soccer and can watch baseball and can just watch all this stuff and go, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. It's a huge advantage. If this thing would have broken out in September, I got news for you. You know, the NBA and baseball would look like geniuses. So I do believe the NFL is going to get through this. Baseball's got two issues. Number one, the players didn't want to bubble. They didn't want to play in Florida and Arizona. It's the summer. Believe me, I get it. I totally get that. Number two is they got a lot of travel.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Even with a condensed schedule, baseball's got a ton of travel. Here's the advantage the NFL has. They have eight road games. And in the NFL, you literally go to a city, check into your hotel, do a walk around, grab dinner, do some film, get up, play, go home. In baseball, you go to a city. First thing guys do, man, they get their golf clubs, they go out. And the Marlins got young players. Baltimore's got, you know, a lot of these teams, you know, the Yankees have veteran players, the Dodgers, a lot of the high
Starting point is 00:22:37 payroll teams. They have veteran players. Red Sox usually do. Maybe the Cubs do. But a lot of these young teams in baseball, these average teams, they got young kids. They got a bunch of guys under 26 years old, 25. They get to a city for three days. They're not going to their room. They're going to go hang out. And so the NFL has a real advantage here. Not many road games. The other thing the NFL has, I believe as COVID spreads, and we move into the fall, states are going to keep bars closed, close more restaurants, close the gyms, the barbershops. As this thing ramps up, you could have more closure state to state. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's an advantage. And in the NFL, we've talked about this before. Football practice is hard. And that what happens over the course of a season for an NFL player, a lot of them, football players tend to get married sooner than other sports. Is it because they spend a longer time in college? Is it because NFL players know it's a shorter career? They put their money away sooner.
Starting point is 00:23:35 They get married sooner. Have kids sooner in the earning years. I don't really know the answer to this. But what you find in the NFL with a lot of players is during the season, it's facility home. Facility home. Facility home. Lift, workout, sweat, home.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's what an NFL regular season looks like. In the off season, boom, guys are out to the second half, guys party, guys have fun, guys move. But in an NFL regular season, you see a lot of these players, only eight road trips, facility home, with all the closures around America, I think the NFL gets through the season. I don't know with baseball. They're not doing the bubble, and there's a lot of road trips,
Starting point is 00:24:13 and a lot of young players and a lot of teams that don't have big budgets. I don't know what's going to happen. I thought baseball was very good this weekend, but if you told me in two, three weeks, you had nine teams couldn't play, I'd be like, well, no bubble, a lot of players on the road, many days. Tough. It's a tough one for baseball, and I don't know what they're going to do. I thought they had a great weekend, but I think it's a tough one for them.
Starting point is 00:24:33 For Heard? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. All right, Colin right, Colin wrong. We do it every Monday. Here we go. Where Colin was right? Rob Manfred got crushed by everybody. Oh, he's the worst commissioner. And I said, just settle down, settle down. We're going to have a baseball season that's going to be fine. The ratings is going to be great. What do we do this weekend? Unbelievable ratings. ESPN broke records, Fox, up like 30 percent. And I've got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It looked pretty good. I watched three games in the Dodgers Giant series and highlights from the rest of them. And for a sport built in gigantic stadiums and no fans, I thought it worked. The ratings were fantastic. This pandemic is creating very unique challenges. As Joy mentioned last week, baseball may have more challenges because it's always reminding you. The ball is going into the stands. It's always reminding you there's nobody at these games.
Starting point is 00:25:28 But I thought baseball looked great. I watched the games. It felt different. It wasn't as there's not enough juice. But I think overwhelmingly, it was a great first weekend for baseball. Where Colin was wrong. Listen, I've been supporting Adam Gase for years. I do think he has a lot of qualities of Kyle Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But he's becoming a problem now. And this will be his last year unless they have a winning record. If Jamal Adams is correct in what he said about Adam Gase, he basically doesn't communicate with any of the players or not enough of the star players. It's a big problem. He's just not a great communicator. And you can say what you want. Andy Reid, John Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, the great coaches in this league, even Belichick.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You ask players, they're like, oh, he's a great teacher. He's a great communicator. People will tell you about Belichick. He'll teach you football. You ask questions. Bill's got answers. Adam Gates is in trouble in New York because if Jamal Adams can go, Joe Douglas can certainly fire a coach.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Where Colin was right? Ian Rappaport at Rapsheet says the Unsung hero in the football CBA negotiations over the weekend was Andy Reed. I've been supporting Andy Reid for 15 years, one of the smartest guys ever, a total players coach. Michael Vic talks about him like he's his dad. Players love Andy Reid and apparently Reed stepped in this weekend and he got everybody in the players union through this thing and said, he basically told the owners, guys, we got to bend on this stuff. These guys are making huge sacrifices for us.
Starting point is 00:26:59 and he's one of the few head coaches that gives Bill Belichick trouble because he basically every Sunday he's got a different playbook but not a shock that the great Andy Reid that's why the Super Bowl win was so just and special this guy deserves a Super Bowl. He's just such, the guys love him, the players love him, the owners love him. Nobody in the NFL deserve one more. Not a shock to CBA this weekend figured out by Andy Reid.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Where Colin was wrong. I think this is the easiest year ever to give LeBron the MVP. new coach, new system, new teammates, new star teammate, and oh, by the way, new position. And he's putting up unbelievable numbers and the Lakers are the number one seed in the West by five and a half games. And he's not going to win the MVP. Yep, 17 to the 20 riders, ESPN.com are going to choose Janus. LeBron's odds are 10 to 1. I honestly, I know you think I'm a LeBron fanboy, but this is an easy one.
Starting point is 00:27:54 This is an easy one. New coach, new system, new players. I mean, God, the roster is brand new. And new position. And you lead the West by five and a half games? This is the easy LeBron one. I mean, it's, you know, this is why this award for me is the coach of the year and the NBA and the NBA player of the year MVP.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I just, I don't get it. I just, I don't, if you don't see LeBron as the MVP, most valuable player, could Janus have gotten a new coach, a new system, all new teammates, and lead the West by five and a half games? Let's start with no and work our way from there. Where Colin was right. You know, I like change baseball struggles with it, but baseball decided to, and I love this idea,
Starting point is 00:28:38 we're going to start extra inning games with a runner at second. We don't want 17 inning games. What do you know? They did it four times this weekend at all four times. Tenth inning, game over. So it worked exactly as planned. What baseball says is we go to extra innings. We want to speed this puppy up.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We don't want teams with the virus. We can't do the makeup games. Let's get these things done as fast as we can. And the Mets and Braves, Rays and J's, A's and Angels, and Cleveland and Kansas City, four for four. Game ended in the 10th inning. Where Colin was right. Brian Brodus, a former scout in the NFL and former cowboy coach,
Starting point is 00:29:19 went on the radio in Dallas last weekend and said, when asked about Dak, at this point, I don't think he wants to be on the team. He won't say it. or he won't show it. He's strong. He's a stud. But I don't think he's happy is what he basically said. This has always been my feeling about Dak and Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy was asked a week after getting the job if he talked to Dak, and he said, no. I don't even get that.
Starting point is 00:29:41 But the difference is, I do sort of understand it. Dak needed Jason Garrett, and Jason Garrett needed Dak. Mike McCarthy doesn't need Dak for his legacy or his Super Bowl or his money or his job security for the next three years. And I think Dak can sense that. You know, people can tell me they love each other, but deck smart enough to know, I lost my guy, and now I have to prove myself all over again, and it does not shock me at all. Not to mention, I totally get professional athletes, especially quarterbacks, not liking the franchise tag. I would not like it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 If I was Aaron Rogers, and they couldn't get me a defense, and I knew I was trapped for the rest of my career mostly, I wouldn't like it either. Tom Brady didn't have real free agency until the very end. And what did he do? Used it. The minute he had and he used it. Where Colin was wrong. I never thought Cam in New England was a perfect fit. New England's very much system over player.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Camp is the star, the guy. But at Logan Airport, Cam arrived in Boston, and he went all in on the Patriot Way. Cam, I'm so sorry to do this to you. You're live right now with Channel 7. I'm sorry. I know you didn't want to talk. Anything that you can say to Patriots Nation right now again, you're live with Channel 7. No disrespect to nobody, but I'm extremely ecstatic.
Starting point is 00:31:06 But I'm not talking. That's pretty much, you know. When can we expect you to say a few more words for us? Who knows? Excited to be here in Boston? Go past. Thank you. That is so Tom Brady, it hurts.
Starting point is 00:31:24 That is the Patriot Way, baby, and I like that, Cam. Where Colin was right? Joe Douglas got the job. I called all my NFL guys, and they're like, this guy's going to be great for the Jets. We'll see what he can do. But I will say this about Joe Douglas. If you knew I had to sell my home, and Joy was going to buy it, and she knew I had to sell it for a reason, she'd have all the leverage.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Once Jamal Adams called out Adam Gase, everybody in the league knew Jets had to move often. To get two firsts, a third in the starting safety was, excellent considering, now you lose Jamal Adams, but that's a big haul, considering everybody in the league knew they wanted to trade him. I mean, that's, remember, Steelers only gave one first round pick. They got double that and a third and a starting safety. The Jets may have their issues and be a tire fire, but that was a really good haul for a team, frankly, that did not have a ton of leverage. This was not a quarterback you're moving. This was not an edge rusher. This was not an elite corner. It's a box safety. A lot of teams don't want to spend the money
Starting point is 00:32:29 on a box safety. Where Colin was right. Tom Thibito got hired by the Knicks, a five-year deal, shocking another uninspiring head coaching hire. He's been fired twice. He just looks like practice would be no fun. It's increasingly an offensive league, and he's Mr. Grined-it-out defensive coach. I'm sure, I'm sure he knows basketball. But New York needs a coach that can attract free agents because James Dolan is repellent for free agents. You got to get somebody who doesn't look like my accountant and wants long practices and is Mr. Defense. This is why I never got to move off Fisdale, liked and respected.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He couldn't get a sit down with KD. What's that tell you? It's a process. It's going to take a lot of time. This feels like, hey, who's a guy that's won some games in the NBA? Does he fit what the Knicks want to be? Is this attractive for free agents? I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:33:35 But again, I'm right because I'm not surprised at all. The top candidates out. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human
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Starting point is 00:34:16 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember When when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84's big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Then you're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast. Podcasts learn the hard way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough.
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Starting point is 00:37:08 Now, let me ask you, tell the audience, how often do you get that beautiful crop cut? You've got to stay in the chair, Colin, once a week, once every seven to ten days, baby. That's it. You've got to stay in the chair. Okay. All right, we got that. We're doing haircut, question. questions from now on. Okay. So I sat and watched a lot of baseball this weekend. First of all,
Starting point is 00:37:30 here's what I loved. Baseball's got this new rule. They're playing around with it. They tried it in the minors. You go to extra innings. You put a guy on second base. And it worked four for four this weekend. As a player, do you think it's cheesy or hurting the game? How does it land for you? I don't know. I mean, from not being a player, the only advice that I can say is that this is 2020. This is a crazy year. We have to be fluid with the things that are happening, right? So let's try different things. We've got the expanded rosters this year, expanded playoffs. I think we're trying a lot of things to move our game forward. But at the end of the day, there's a lot of strategyry that goes into that, right? Do you walk the next batter? Do you set up the double play? Because the last thing we need right now
Starting point is 00:38:12 in a shortened season with everything that's happening is for an extra inning game to go 17 innings. Right. Next thing you know, they're calling up the entire taxi squad, trying to do whatever they can to get guys, on the field. This is a year where we have to think of health first. And I definitely think this definitely saves a lot of pitcher's arms by putting that runner on second base. So I watched a lot of Dodgers this weekend. I knocked open a Corona and I sat and watched Dodgers Giants and the Dodgers lineup is unbelievable. It's MVP's, it's talent, it's 30 jacks, it's just nothing. It's guys you can move around. But Kershaw's out. And you know, and then I watched them against the Giants and the Giants got really good pitching this weekend in a couple of games. And you look up,
Starting point is 00:38:52 and you're like, Dodgers should have dominated the series, and San Francisco's walking out with a winner two. So I look at Kershon, I think to myself, okay, Nick, Nick Swisher, joining us, a lot of innings. Is the injury a problem for the Dodgers? Yeah, I definitely think it's something you're going to have to pay attention to. I mean, just look at Corey Klover, right, with the Texas Rangers. It comes out after the first inning, right?
Starting point is 00:39:15 That was that one guy that you expected to be there the entire season. The one thing I could say about Clayton is he's been in this position before. It seems every year we go back to a little low back injury that he has to take care of and get himself right. So is this something that I am super worried about? No. But is this something that Clayton's going to have to hurdle through to help his team get to the World Series? A hundred percent. Because I don't think if you have a Clayton Kirshaw, the Dodgers win the World Series. But with a healthy Clayton Kirshall, he's still got what he's got, man. There's no doubt about it. He's throwing a lot of innings, but he knows how to pitch. And anytime you can have that guy on the mound for you, every. fifth or six day, depending on what your rotation is, I'll take him every time. The Dodgers are an interesting mix of youth, international players, veterans. It's a really, and they've got depth. Is that the best roster in baseball or do you like somebody else?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah, I love the Dodgers in the National League. There's no doubt about it. Come on, Colin. You know who I'm going for, baby. I mean those pinstripes, baby. The New York Yankees, in my opinion, have to be the best team in baseball. Now, at the beginning of spring training this year, what I've said that, no, because half the roster was hurt. But now after spring training 2.0, everybody is healthy.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Jean-Carlo is back better than ever. He's leaned out. He's comfortably, strong in his legs. Aaron Judge is healthy. He's got that shoulder plumbed up. Aaron Hicks is back. He's good, right? James Paxton, who was banged up with that low back injury, and they have Garrett Cole.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I don't think there's any team in baseball that is as deep of a pitching staff as the New York Yankees are. and they are also one of the few teams in baseball that didn't run out and put all their top prospects on their taxi squad. Because whether they need them or not, bringing up a rookie that has no time in the big leagues or no understanding of how important things are, they don't have to go through that. They have the guys that they know they can win with. And whether it's a shortened World Series or not, a World Series is a World Series. By the way, you know, we see some games postponed today. I said in the NFL, you only have eight road games. And for whatever reason, a lot of football players get married sooner.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They go to the facility, they work out, they go home. They go to the facility, work out, they go home. And then only eight times do they go on the road. Baseball's different. It's more international players. You can get on some of these bottom teams, a lot of young kids prospects, 22 years old. It's a lot of travel.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You go on the road for a place three or four days. guys aren't going to go to their hotel room. And I said the joy, if I played baseball and I had 60 games in 75 days, come on, Nick, I'd have to go out occasionally. Is it unrealistic to ask all these players to just protocols, discipline, never leave your hotel room? It's hard. I mean, I was hearing a lot of things that were being said earlier today saying, why would they even try the season? They knew this wasn't going to work if they didn't have a bubble.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And you've got to give the NBA credit. They've done a heck of a job of keeping this virus outside of their bubble. That's the one thing that I think baseball understood going into the season that this, that's the reason why there's 60 man taxi squads. That's the reason why the rosters are as much as they are. So if there is a rash of eight to 10 guys that might be a quarantine for two weeks, I mean, two weeks worth of games this season is 21% of the season. So I think whatever team has health, whether it's virus or whether it's injury related,
Starting point is 00:42:41 I think the team that can stay the healthiest and keep their guys in check the best. Listen, man, at the end of the day, it's hard to do, right? These guys have families, and that's exactly, you want them to go home healthy to their families every night. Believe me, I love sports just as much as everybody else does. But if we put these guys at risk to take any of these viruses back to their home, to their families, to their loved ones, anything like that, that's the last thing we would want to happen. I want to ask you about two players. So I can remember when I'm a kid and I'm watching Dave Winfield play. And Dave went for. He was awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, my gosh. He was so awesome. But he looked awesome. He could have played in the NBA, the NFL. He looked like a tight end. And then there's Mookie Betts. He's not a physical stature. He's not Aaron Judge. And everybody's telling me, Mookie Betts, it could be the best player in baseball. So what is it with him?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Because there are players that you look at and you're like, okay, I mean, I can watch football, basketball. LeBron's just bigger than all the dudes. What is it about Mookie Betz? Is it hand-eye? Is it reactions, athleticism? What makes him maybe the best player in baseball? I think it's all those things you just said, Colin, right there. I mean, I love me some Mookie Betts just as much as anybody else.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And to be able to have him and Cody Bellinger in the same lineup, wow. I mean, that's almost unheard of back to both MVP winners in the same lineup. I mean, that's impressive. But I think the one thing that Mookie has is you've got to appreciate the way he handles his business, right? He always does things the right way. He loves the game. He loves his team. I don't know whether it's, you know, strong wrist, hand eye.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Maybe it's that it factor that he has that other people don't. But every time he takes that field, he's one of those guys. As my man, D. Trey, Dantrell Willis would say, I'd pay money to go see. He's one of those guys that can transcend the game both on and off the field. And let's be honest, man, this guy's probably an athlete, everything he does. I don't know how many 300 bowling games he's got. I'm sure he's probably great at everything he does. but to be able to watch that man on the field each and every day, man, is a blessing for us all.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Now let's talk about size, John Carlos Stanton for the Yankees. Now, they bring him in last year. I didn't really get it because they had Aaron Judge, and he was basically free by Yankee standard. John Carlos Stanton offers a lot of the same tools, but was highly expensive, and the Marlins got rid of the contract. What do you expect he looks a little different this year? Oh, I mean, how good does he look, right? I mean, last year, I think we saw, you know, I mean, the last couple years, he's been kind of hit with that injury bug a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:12 But I don't know what he did, man, during spring training and spring training 2.0. But all of a sudden, he came back. He's leaner. He looks taller than what he was. And all of a sudden, he's hitting more, he's hitting baseballs further than it looks like he ever has in his life. You know, you got to remember as an athlete and as those years wear and tear on the body, the lighter you are, the better you feel sometimes. From a guy that had knee injuries, well, one pound on your body. belly is worth three pounds on your on your knees so you've got to remember man jean carlo coming back
Starting point is 00:45:41 lean trim and being the guy at yankee fans always knew he could be it's going to be so much fun to watch him in the future man he's healthy the knee is healthy no knee breaks no none of that and dude he's catching those handoffs coming down the third base line hopefully every day for the yankees what is that again so one what is that pound in your belly on your knees say that again yeah one pound on your body is three pounds on your knees because once you start running Right? That extra weight, you know, compounds on your knees. And for Jean Carler to come back all trimmed up the way he is, man. Could not be more proud of it, man. He's going to have a great season this year.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Was that Nick Swisher? Do you make that up or is that like a real thing? I don't know. It sounded good when I said it, man. I was just rolling with it. I could have sworn I thought a doctor told me that. I'm for it. It sounds right, doesn't it? Absolutely. The rest of my life, that's all I'm going to think about. That line. The great Nick Swisher. I love you, brother. Good seeing you. I love you, call it. Joy, take it easy, guys. Good to see y'all.
Starting point is 00:46:37 All right, Nick Swisher. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
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Starting point is 00:47:23 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games.
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