The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Jun 11, 2020

Episode Date: June 11, 2020

Athletes like Patrick Mahomes and LeBron James can get things done that politicians can'tThe numbers are telling you that Baker Mayfield is the issue for the BrownsColin is tired of NBA stars who repeatedly do not deliver in the playoffsPeople only hate Sam Darnold because Colin likes himThe NFL's biggest nightmare is about to happenGuest: Dwight Freeney, 7x Pro Bowler & Super Bowl Champion Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we go on a uniquely packed Thursday live in Los Angeles. This is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, we're on Fox Sports Radio, and we're on FS1. It is great to have you in today. Brian Cox, Rob Parker next hour, Antonio Daniels, this hour.

Joy Taylor's joining me. Joy, how are you? I made my own dinner last night. And I had another cigar last night. Wow. Yeah, it's the new me. Well, you know, it's about balance. It looked like you had some healthy chicken going on there.

Yeah, I made my own dinner last night. Did you season it? Oh, absolutely. I'm a garlic guy. Garlic oil, garlic powder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a guy. I'm no fun. You don't want to be around me after I have dinner with all the garlic, but I...

I cook probably 98% of the things that I make. with garlic. Love it. You just have to deal with it. Outside of oatmeal, I use it on everything. Anything salty essentially that I'm making is going to have some kind of garlic in it. Well, it's great to have you in today. You know, in my lifetime, I don't remember a star quarterback in his prime, really taking on politics. Patrick Mahomes is now. Patrick Mahomes said, you know what? I got a platform. If I can make life better, why shouldn't I use it? And it should be, I really like this.

And I'll tell you why. Everybody wants a voice. If you're a guy, you want your wife to hear you, you want your kids to hear you, you want your boss to hear you. You go to Twitter. You want to be heard. So why can't LeBron and Patrick Mahomes? Go to Twitter for five minutes. People who have never accomplished anything.

They want to be heard. In our lives, we all want to be heard. So I'm going to rely on politicians to run my country, really? there's a reason that when you ask people in America who should be our next president a lot of people say Mark Cuban six months ago a lot said Oprah

because they're smart and they work well with people and they're not politicians what does it tell you that Donald Trump won the presidency on this I'm not a politician and we were like thank God

that tells you the state of American politics. Maybe if politicians did a better job and were less divisive and less infuriating and got voter suppression solved, I wouldn't need an NBA star and an NFL quarterback to step in and use their popularity. Well, what do they know? You know what? LeBron never has to say, hey, Senator, can you play for the Lakers? We're not productive. Patrick Mohomes never has to say, hey, Congressman, could you come suit up for the Chiefs?

because we're not productive. But our politicians are not productive enough. It's about winning, protecting their turf, protecting their careers, fundraising for the next election. There's a reason people are talking about Mark Cuban because he's smart and gets stuff done and it doesn't need to whiz on people and win every argument. He's looking for solutions and answers.

So Patrick Mahomes is the reason Roger Goodell, many speculate, watch that Black Lives Matter tape with NFL players. And the story is, Goodell saw Patrick Mahomes on it and went, I'm on the player's side. That's influence. If I need LeBron's influence to solve a systemic issue in America,

voter suppression, I had this conversation with my wife about four days ago. We're sitting out in the deck, drinking a cheap beer. And I said to her, we can figure out how to use phones to vote for American Idol. We can't figure out how to vote in this country. It's a constant maze for lots of young people who have never voted, want to.

Let's make it simpler. But the reason athletes who are now so popular, we know athletes don't get into political issues to make money, they're already rich. They don't do it to be popular. they're already popular. They do it to solve problems our politicians can't.

Our current president ran on the platform. I'm not a politician. That got him in. Regardless of what you think of him now, that's why people talk about Oprah and Mark Cuban. They're not about arguing and poking and prodding. I just want to help people. Here's Patrick Mahomes on in Kansas City,

stepping up on not only Black Lives Matter, but stepping up on voter registration. I'm definitely aware. I'm aware of everything. I'm aware of my surroundings. I'm aware of coming off a Super Bowl championship and being the quarterback of a Super Bowl winning team. But I've always believed in people,

and I've always believed in when people do things together and do things for the right reasons and have a good heart when they do it, that things get done and change happens. I'm blessed to have this platform. Why not use it? And I feel like I've got. I've gotten older and I know I'm still young. I've learned a lot. And I think that's,

that was one of the things I, is I know I have this platform. I know not everyone will agree with it, but I'm going to do my best to make the world a better place. And this is the right moment to do it. He's not doing it for money. He's going to make $400 million. He's not doing it to be popular. He's already popular. Not doing it to be cool. He's not doing it to walk into a room and everybody turned their head. Check, check, check, check, check. Got all those. He's doing it because he wants to help people. He's doing it because he wants to help people. He's doing it because he wants to wants to help people. If we're going to simply rely on politicians in this country to get stuff done, not enough stuff gets done. For the record, during COVID, it was the business community.

Everybody, globally, the business community. In Seattle, it was Bill Gates, Microsoft, creating masks, you know, your Elon Musk's or, you know, every state had somebody else. We relied on business people to step in because our politicians were not prepared to handle it. I'm sorry, but I look to business people to solve big issues. I don't look to my mayor. He's got an election to win again. He's got an agenda and turf to protect. Mahalms doesn't.

LeBron doesn't. They want to help people. They want to make the voting process more fair. I am all for it. I wouldn't have to be all for it if politics wasn't so partisan and divisive and there wasn't such it's so discouraging and disheartening. I mean, it's hard to go online for five minutes when you wake up in the morning not read about our current state of political affairs and not be depressed. That's why Patrick Mahomes, LeBron James, that's why they get involved. That's why.

Somebody's got to get something done. somebody's got to figure stuff out. We can't trust the people who currently have the control. So I saw this. This is very interesting. Now we'll get back to sports. I know. Stick to sports. So Bleacher Report is very, very popular.

Bleacher Report, you know that, right? Yes, Bleacher Report is very popular. Very popular. So they ranked every NFL quarterback supporting cast. And not a surprise. Kansas City's number one. but number two is Cleveland. And this isn't just Bleacher Report.

Pro Football Focused named Nick Chubb, the number one most elusive running back in the league. Pro Football focused ranked Miles Garrett and Olivier Vernon, the number two pass rushing team in the league. They've also upgraded at tight end both tackles. Yet the over-under for the Cleveland Browns. In a weapons league, in an offensive league, they're second to the Kansas City Chiefs.

I could argue, they have more depth offensively than the Kansas City Chiefs. They may not have the top end stuff, but they got more depth. They got two receivers. They got two tied ends. They got two running backs. Definitely better than Kansas City at running back. And now probably potentially as good at tackle.

Eight and a halfs they're over under. What? Why is that? Baker Mayfield's maturity. Nobody knows if he's mature enough. You put Patrick Mahomes with that talent? Oh, wait, they're over-under's 12. Drew Breeze is 41, non-athletic, doesn't throw a deep ball.

Cleveland's got better talent, and they're over-unders, 10, 10-5. Tom Brady's over-under is 9-5. New coach, old, unathletic, new system. No running game. This is what we talk about maturity matters. Fox bet, Vegas, they don't care about anything other than wins, and they think they're a 500 team with those weapons. The first year, we blame the coach, Hugh Jackson.

Last year, we blamed the coach, Freddie Kitchens. The owners in Cleveland are not blaming the coach again. I've said this before. If Sam Darnold struggles, Adam Gase will be fired. Because Darnold hasn't had any maturity issues. If Cleveland doesn't make the playoffs, Baker-Mayfield's getting fired. Ask yourself, how are they an eight-and-a-half-win team with Brady's got a new system? Brady's got a new coach.

Brady's got a new city. Brady's got a new offensive line. Brady's got new receivers. He's unathletic. He's old. They're over. And I would argue the division top to bottom is better. This is why maturity matters.

Not my opinion, Vegas. They see him as a 500 football team. So I don't. I think Cleveland wins nine. I think they make the play. But what does it tell you when Bleacher Report, pro football focus, all these grades, all these lists have Cleveland like only Kansas City in an offensive league where all the rules are geared for offense has more talent. And they're a 500 team. Because Breeze and Russell Wilson and Brady, they synthesize it.

They bring it all together. Vegas trusts that the quarterback will get it all. Together and, well, I mean, Kevin Stefansky, what about him? Do you think Bruce Ariens is a Hall of Famer? He likes cocktails early and closes practice quickly. Bruce Ariens retired went into broadcasting. We didn't even know in Tampa if he was all in. We thought he was.

We're not sure. He likes coaching, but you're not going to be here long. So this is why when I bang on the maturity thing, Vegas, Fox Bet, they're telling you, this is an all-star cast in Cleveland, over-unders eight and a half. I have the over, by the way. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field

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is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast. Learn the hard way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the hard way and listen now. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th.

And on my podcast, The Cliverts show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out.

Quarterback on office blue with 42. A rep, mom. want you to wave at her. What? Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Joel M. Bede was talking Philadelphia 76er Star about,

you know, I got something to prove this summer. And I like that he's passionate. There's a story out today. Some NBA players maybe don't want to be in the bubble in Orlando. I like the fact that he's passionate. He wants to go play and prove something. I'm all for it. But people ask me all the time why I talk about LeBron so much.

And I'm like, because he delivers. It's the same reason I talk about Tom Brady. Neither one does anything but show up, work hard, and delivers. The NBA has got a lot of talented players. But 90% of the stars, it's talk, it's hype, it's just wait, it's promises, it's guarantees, and I get nothing. Some of the best players in the league, like Hardin and Westbrook and maybe Paul George, their brands are talented, but they never really make it happen in the postseason. The most pressure in these playoffs, it's not on LeBron James.

As I said last break, he's Amazon. All he does is deliver. Anthony Davis has been in this league eight years. He has one playoff series win. Stop with the promises and the just wait. Stop with a hype. Yonis has been in the league seven years. He's got two playoff series wins in the East both last year.

You keep telling me and promising me and guaranteeing me. Janice go win games. LeBron was in the East. He left. Kauai was in the East. He left. KD. is in the East. He's hurt.

Who's the second best player in the East? Janice has a great coach. Good bench scoring. An all-star in Chris Middleton. Several shooters around him. A terrific home court advantage. Milwaukee fans are some of the loudest in the league. it's the East.

Katie Hurt, LeBron and Kauai left. Win it. If Yonis doesn't get to the finals, he's just another talented guy who has limitations and holes and is not built to win in the postseason. But I see these, every year I see

all these anonymous general manager study. I want to build around Carl Anthony Town and I want to build around, I'm going to build around Anthony Davis, I'm going to build around Janus, and I'm always like, hell, I'm building around LeBron and Kauai. Because those are the only two guys that don't promise anything.

Well, I mean, LeBron had a little promise in Miami, but Kauai doesn't promise anything. He just delivers. He just wins. He gets to the finals. He's the best player in the finals. So you're talking about pressure. If you're in this league seven years in the east

and I can't name the second best player after you, pressure's on you. Pressure's not on LeBron. LeBron's delivered more than enough. It's not on Kauai Leonard. The pressure's on this guy. You're honest. Keep telling me he's the future of the league.

Win. Coach? Check. Bench scoring, check. Shooters, check. All-star next to you, check. Home court advantage, good GM, check, check. Let's go.

All the big dogs are gone. All the big dogs are gone. LeBron, boom. Kauai, boom. Katie, boom. Let's go. It's yours. Dance floor is yours.

That's what the pressure is at. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays and noon Eastern. 9 a.m. Pacific. I don't think any of us would ever deny that your parents have a huge, huge part in deciding how your life goes. Do you grow up in a stable environment? Do you grow up in an unstable environment? Are you loved? Are you supported? No reasonable person would deny that, you know, zero to 15 years old, having some stability, some loved, being loved, being helped, being assisted, being elevated is a huge advantage.

that is not to say you can't overcome it. And we see this in pro sports all the time. Nobody would deny that Pete Carroll's been aided by Russell Wilson, excuse me, has been aided by he had a good owner, he had a good coach, they gave him a great defense. So for the first two years of Russell Wilson's development, he had the running back, this and that. Now, it's been his franchise since then.

And nobody would argue that Andrew Luck simply had too much to overcome and that's why he's no longer playing and has retired. It matters. Not only does it matter when you're a child, but as you age, I've worked for six different companies, five different companies, four have been great. The one place I didn't feel I really succeeded, it was bad management. It's nothing against them. It was just a circus from the day I got there.

At one point, we had a dog on the set. I'm not joking. Every night. And at one point we did news from a leather couch. I'm not joking about that either. So in that Bleacher report, they ranked the quarterbacks who had the most help. Mahomes had the best skill people. Baker was second.

Sam Darnold was 30th. Every other quarterback, every other young quarterback in this league got something. Josh Allen got the coach. Lamar got the organization. Baker got the wide receiver. talent. Deshawn Watson got wide receiver weapons. Patrick Mahomes got everything. Sam Darnold got nothing. I'm reading Bleacher reports discussion on Darnold. They say, the Jets have failed to surround Sam Darnold with a quality cast. It'll be slightly better this year. They've drafted a potential

number one receiver and they have a promising rookie left tackle. Oh, good hell. Where are you land, where you're raised, what you're born into is so vital. Every other young quarterback got something to grab onto, some support group. His first head coach in New York was fired. His first coordinator in New York had not been a coordinator in the NFL for eight years. His first GM was incompetent. Weapons, brutal. O-line, tragic.

Ownership below average. They begged a center to come out of retirement last year to protect. him. He got hurt. His best receiver, Robbie Anderson, his favorite target, Jets wouldn't keep him, let him go for pennies. Yet he went seven and six last year. He had mono. In the three games, he didn't play for the Jets. They were not only 0 and 3. They scored 23 points total. And in two of the three games, they had 70 passing yards or less. He then got, out of a hospital, walked up against Dallas, threw for 360 yards, a couple of touchdowns, and they crushed the Cowboys and Dak Prescott.

He is the only young quarterback in this league. Nothing. What does he grab onto? Where's his support system? 30th, according to Bleacher Report. The draft in 2015, you think, well, maybe he walked into some good players with the Jets. The draft in 2015, not a single player is still there. And in the second half last year of his starts, in his last eight starts, he was six

and two, 13 touchdowns, four picks, but he gets a lot of heat. And I found this out, I think, because half my audience hates me, that you kept pushing back on Andrew Locke until everybody acknowledged, good Lord, he didn't have any help. you keep pushing back on Russell Wilson until finally you're like he makes everything work Darnold I have to quit praising him and I just want you to watch him and I think their schedule this year is brutal brutal I think their weapons are still bottom I like Levi and Bell I'm not sure if he's got a ton left herndon's a great tight end he's just never available to play but I I think I'm hurting Sam Darnold I think my fascination

and my pleas to acknowledge his greatness is now herding his brand. I think you're onto something, actually. Seriously. You might be right. I think people are just pushing back because they don't like me. So from now on, it's just that guy with the Jets. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. The worst nightmare for most NFL fans. Be honest about this, Joy. not just as a Steeler and Dolphins fan. The worst nightmare is New England within a year gets a great quarterback and dominates for 10 years. Yeah, don't say things like that.

Right. It is the NFL's biggest nightmare that New England gets the next Brady, even more talented, then runs off 15 years of greatness. So New England fans, now this is, you know, this is Sully, James O'Henry, in a poll done. pie chart. Fifty-two percent of Patriot fans think Stidham is stopgap.

Only 32 percent think he's the guy for the future to win a title. So they don't buy into Stidham. You know I don't. So we've talked about the quarterback saturation in the NFL. Just quarterbacks are better. They're better sooner. The NFL is adopting their college schemes. So this year, Cincinnati, Miami and the Chargers all have three quarterbacks. I think all are going to be successful in the NFL. So take those three off.

This is how easy it is. Just three steps for New England to get one of the two great college quarterbacks next year. Step one. There are six teams in this league. New England. And then we'll just write for our radio and TV audience. Bears, Colts, Jags, Patriots, Raiders, Reds kids. I like Derek Carr.

Clearly, they brought in Marcus Mariotta. The Raiders aren't in love with their guy. These six teams, you really don't know who was going to be the quarterback in two years. You really don't know those six. That's step one. Step two, and this may be a stretch, that Ron Rivera and the addition of Chase Young to an already good defensive front, Washington is competent, and Dwayne Haskins is competent in his first full year of starting the whole season. So those are the six teams. I predict, of those six teams, Chicago and Indy are simply.

going to win too many games. That's step one. They're going to win too many games to be a top six or seven pick. Between the Colts roster, the Bears' defense, and the Bears coaching. So let's take those out. We're down to four. Step two is take the Redskins out. Dwayne Haskins, one-year

starter in college, is now competent. And the defense with Ron Rivera and Chase Young, which I believe absolutely to be true, is just going to be hell on wheels. Step three is, Jacksonville is awful, and they get one of the quarter. So Jacksonville, they're going to get one.

That leaves the Patriots and the Raiders, where they're not going to have the quarterback they want. They truly want in the building. They're not going to be great teams. And that's the obstacle. Now, think about this. That's the obstacle. New England's first seven games, Joy, this is a real thing.

They will have the worst quarterback in their first seven games, all seven. their first seven games. The trading deadlines the eighth week. The first seven games at Seattle, at Kansas City, at the bills, San Francisco, Denver. They could lose all those. Two and five.

They're two and five after seven. Trading deadline comes. How do you ensure you stay up with the Raiders? You trade Stefan Gilmore, a Dante High Tower. Scarnickea just retired. Gronk gone. They don't have skill weapons, players. This is potentially, as you heard from the

music, this is the NFL's worst nightmare, that they get one of the two great college quarterbacks. If you consider there's only six teams in the NFL now that by the end of next year, they don't really have their guy, and that Chicago and Indy are simply too good to be in the top six or seven picks, and that if you buy into Washington being much better defensively and competent at quarterback, as long as Jacksonville's crappy and gets won, it's Raiders in New England to get Justin Fields. It's really upsetting. I don't think I don't, just go look at New England's first seven games. Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Jimmy G, and the Niners, it's just good after good after really good after Super Bowl champ after

and these what was that John people will be happy because they're losing but long term NFL trade deadline is after week eight they are going to go two and five to start the season and they'll move

people I'm sorry I'm not here to give you good news I am America's honesty bro this is what this is what you're looking at they're going to be looking in Vegas and saying Oh, all right. Let's say the Raiders, let's say the Raiders after seven are like three and four.

Let's trade Stefan. You're going to tell me somebody couldn't use Stefan Gilmore at week seven, the best pure corner cover? You can tell me all those NFL teams looking at Patrick Mahomes going, hell, we got to beat Mahomes. Come on down. Cleveland's like, come on, let's go. You're going to tell me in a quarterback league, somebody's not going to need in week seven, the best corner in the league. Got a couple draft picks, move up. It's happening, folks.

Let's just play the music one more time. I'm here to make you nauseous. Look at Joy. Joy, for the first time in weeks, is not happy with her affable host, Me. I mean, because I feel this, I feel like Belichick has some evil master plan. Of course he knows.

Of course he does. I don't believe he's just, like, winging it all of a sudden. He's not winged it once in his career. I'm supposed to believe he's just like, all you need is if Dwayne Haskins is competent Jacksonville stinks. There you go. Justin Fields.

Just put a Patriot jersey on him right now. Seriously. That kid's good. That kid is really good. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the I-Hard Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.

Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves.

Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that

George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at a podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down. and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah, for me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it

and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro.

Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway.

Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. What's up, guys? This is Clever-Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game.

This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes, A, ref. want you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, Brett. My mama want you to wave at her.

What? Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Well, he played 16 seasons. Many of you remember him primarily with a Colts, where he was a seven-time Pro Bowl.

Or he will be a Hall of Famer. there's no doubt about that. And as we were talking during the break, his hometown is a town I lived next to for 10 years, and our wives were from the same hometown. So we got something in common here. Dwight Frini is joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So, you know, Dwight, you were by the end, you're the kind of guy in a locker room that was like almost a coach on the defensive side. Like the coaches would, you know, they'd file players to you.

You had a leadership role along with being a great player. So we're in a league now with no OTAs because of a virus. The NFL announced yesterday we may only have two preseason games. It feels like if I'm a team like the Jets and I'm young and rebuilding Cincinnati with a rookie quarterback, I can't imagine. It feels like there's certain teams in this league, young teams that are going to be at a complete deficit going into the season. Or am I overstating it and can you catch up in football pretty quick without an OTA? and only one or two preseason games?

I mean, I think you hit it right on the head. I honestly believe that, you know, the OTAs, the training camps, that is vital for youth development in the league, you know, especially when you have a new system. You know, you have a new system. You don't know, you know, the ends and outs of it. You have to learn that. And sometimes you have to learn that through mistakes in practice and being together, the coaching staff, offensive coordinator versus D.E.

defensive corner, try to figure out those little holes of that system, that is a very important. All right? So when you have a veteran team who had the same system, same veteran players, it's a lot easier to go right into a season with limited time. But when you have a new quarterback fresh into the league and all of a sudden you really can't get together the same way, it's going to be very interesting to see how they respond. You know, I would say, say, you know, it's going to be a disastrous, you know, me being a guy who's been around it for that long, it's going to be tough. If people think all of a sudden, you know, you just plug a guy in and all of a sudden that team is going to take off with this type of offseason,

it's going to be tough. You know, it's interesting. What happens if you're Philip River, so you're a veteran, but you're going to a new team, the Colts, or Brady to the Bucks. Now, how long do you think it takes a, because you, you played after the Colch, you were on the Chargers and the Cardinals. So if you're a smart veteran player and you're going to a new team, is it a week, is it a month, is it 12 practices, how long to catch up? I think it just depends on the system, you know, and I think with Philip it's going to be a lot easier for Philip, just based on the fact that he was with Frank and the Chargers, they may have this similar type of play calls or system. They know each other very well. So I

think that is going to be a little bit easier than maybe a Tom Brady going into the box situation with Bruce Aaron's. Now, how long that takes, I think that's all up to the individual. I think based on how he just gets it, grasps it, I think what they'll probably do, though, to be quite honest, is they're going to build things around what they already know. So I think Bruce would already have put stuff in that the Patriots have done to make Tom more comfortable or Tom have more of an intricate role in the design of the offense and no different with Philip.

You know, you're living now in Florida. And of all the young quarterbacks, I'm a Tua fan. So I want you to go back to your career. I think Tua in the first week or two, you're going to see him at practice. Word's going to get out. Video's going to get out. And Miami's going to say, let's play him. We're not winning the Super Bowl.

Let's just play the dude. And I want you to go back to your career. when you have Peyton Manning and he's new and he's raw, how do players react? Would players rather have perhaps a better veteran quarterback in September, or would they rather ride with a new kid who they knew has a much higher ceiling, but you're going to stumble for six weeks? How do players feel about that? I think this, most teams that I've been on, we're about winning right now.

We don't care about a year from now, two years from now. It may not be the same team. You may not actually be on the team by time that actually happens. So for us, players, you know, around, we want to play the guy who is better for the situation right now. We can give to whatever's about the future in two, three years. That's for upper management. That's for the owners. Those are for the maybe some of the coaches to think about.

development, but when we're playing, we are not trying to develop a player in the middle of this season because we also know how short-lived this NFL career can be for some players. It's one play and your career could be over with. And I'm not sitting there thinking about two years down the road. It's a right now type of business. And that's what guys would probably be thinking about is who's better right now, put them in, let's win. You know, like, let's say New England's got Jarrett Stidham.

And I always think I've asked players this for years. Nobody can sniff out an imposter faster than players. And let's say you're a Patriot player and Jared Stidham comes in. How many practices would it take for players to look around and go, that's it or that doesn't work? Because you can't fool players. You can fool me. You can't fool players.

Well, the thing is, you're right. You can't fool players, but when you're on a team like the Patriots, where you have a Bill Belichick, who is a mastermind, I always say Bill is, he's out there playing chess with other coaches, but he's like a mastermind at chess. He's like a grand master. All right, he is going to put a system in to where as though that whoever that is at quarterback will flourish. Okay. Now, what does that mean? their passing game might change a little bit. It may be more of a promontid run type of offense where they're running the ball more, running the ball first, and play action later and having simple reads for them.

But Bill has been in the league for a long time as a coach. He's been successful for a reason. And I'm sure whoever it is at quarterback, he's going to make them feel as comfortable as he possibly can in that system that he puts in. Dwight Freeney going to be a Hall of Famer. I've always been a fan of Drew Breeze. I thought he was incredibly tone deaf.

But I also think his resume tells me he does care. He is a good human being. If you're in that locker room, do you forgive him? Well, I think it's up to the player. The truth be told is you're out there and you're playing with other players as an employee at a job. Okay. Do you have to like all your other employees at your job? to get the job done? No, you don't. Okay. That being said, I think Drew, me knowing Drew a little bit,

I think he is a good guy, okay? I think he misspoke. I think he spoke too fast. I think his apology of what he stated is he's going to listen more is important and was good for him to say. You know, obviously him being the quarterback for the Saints is important to have one of your leaders on that team to be with the team. So can players? separate that from maybe their personal feelings maybe? Absolutely. I think they can. You know, will it be as connected as it was prior to the comments?

Maybe not. Maybe the players already knew where he stood, you know, prior to. So, you know, we'll see what it is, but I think the players have the ability to separate the two. You know, they have a job to get done so they understand is that your politics or how you feel shouldn't affect how I play with that individual in the game. Dwight, there's never been, and I think this is one of the reasons that Cam Newton has struggled to land a spot is celebrity backup quarterback is not really a thing in the NFL.

Is that quarterbacks are, they're different. You got defensive ends, corners, receivers, you can have three good ones on a team and they all get it. Quarterbacks grow up, you're the man or you're not. So celebrity backups, it's just not a thing. That's why Elway wanted to get Tebow, who was winning games out of Denver. It's just not a thing. So Kaepernick is iconic.

He is an iconic person in America. Do you think if he goes to a team, regardless of the three and a half years of inactivity, which is a long time not to play in the NFL, would it be disruptor? Or is that overstated? That guys would be like, okay, he's a backup. It's fine. Who cares? I mean, how do you think it would land if a good team you were on brought him in?

Well, you know what? We've never been in this situation. You know, I think this is new times and times are changing. And I think, you know, Cap, he deserved to be in the lead still. You know, I don't know, you know, a starter based on the system. You know, he's maybe not the best dropback passer throwing dimes quarterback. But you know what? There's schemes that are changing now where, you know, you have a lot.

teams who like to run the option, you know, and that ride in the side top of offense where this is where he flourished. Look at the Ravens. So I think there could be a place for him, you know, in the league. Now, what does that mean? Starter backup? Does he all of a sudden outshine the starter? No one knows, you know, and I know what you're saying. You know, who wants, you know, maybe a quote unquote distraction, but I honestly believe. that the things that Kat brings, you know, socially may not be a bad distraction. It actually could enlighten a lot of things that need to be enlightened. And will that owner, you know, decide to take the chance on doing that?

I hope so. Honestly, I think it's needed. You know, I think he's still, I don't know what he, you know, what type of shape he's in and can he still play right now? And you're right three years of sitting down, not playing, definitely is a big deal. But I think if he can pass that test as far as making the throws and making those decisions, I think he deserves to be on a team, you know, because of the fact that, look, he should have never not been on a team. And I think that he got blackballed in, in a sense,

because of all the things that he believes in socially. Yeah, you can certainly, you know, the temperature in the room has changed. You could make a very compelling argument that Kaepernick today would galvanize a locker room, that the players would respect the owner in the front office more. I could make that argument today, that it would actually, and I don't think I would have made that argument three years ago with Kaepernick, but I think the world's changed.

I mean, you're sitting there watching TV like me. I mean, as a black man in America, an athlete, a public figure, how has all this stuff land for you in the last 10 days, 12 days? I mean, it's been real tough. but also on the other side of it, you know, I see change happening. You know, I mean, you sit there and you watch as a black person in this world. You understand kind of the things that you have to deal with, unfortunately. And now you're seeing on TV, you turn it on, you see peaceful protests, people of all different colors, ethnicities, you know, obviously black, white, Asian, Native Americans, Spanish,

all coming together now and in marching together about this terrible state that this country and this world is in. So, you know, I don't know if that would have happened years ago. It's happening now. And I'm thankful that it is happening now because change needs to happen, you know. And so seeing that, you know, it makes me obviously seeing something that would happen to George Floyd is devastating for him to be murdered the way he was. Just period. But on the other side, seeing how people are coming together makes me feel like there is actually hope for minorities, for black folks out there who feel like, you know, this world

isn't for them and the rules don't apply to them. And, you know, who cares? It doesn't matter. There's a lot of people who are behind us right now. So we got to keep this momentum going, hopefully. What a pleasure it is to talk to you. I don't know if we've ever interviewed before, but I just love it. loved having you on. I admired your game. And please come on again. You're welcome anytime.

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