The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Mar 18, 2020

Episode Date: March 18, 2020

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This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are live in Los Angeles, and this is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we are on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, XM Series Channel 80, 3,000. three today. Last couple of days, I'm just doing my radio show.

I walk around town. People are saying, where are you? I turned on TV. And I said, well, I'll be on TV tomorrow, that being today. It is great to have you in. It is a pleasure to have you in. Yesterday, 30 minutes into our show, I got a text that Tom Brady was going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Not a place

I ever saw as a front runner. I went with it. It was a celebrity slash wealthy source of the few friends I have who are up in that stratosphere. This was one of them. He's a friend. He called and he said, Brady's going to the Buccaneers. I said, really? And he said, yeah, it came down to the dolphins.

It came down to the Chargers and it came down to Tampa Bay. So I texted him. John Goulet created this music bed. So when I have to go to my phone during the show, I can at least the audience knows it's a signal that I am getting, And yeah, it's this. That means I'm on my phone getting a text. So this happened yesterday, 30 minutes into the show.

And I said, I've never used a football source to break a massive football story. But I, you know, I went with it. And we were right. About six hours ahead of everybody else, doesn't really matter in the end. But that's what happened yesterday if you did not listen to our show. Let me say this. I worked in Tampa for two years. I loved covering the team.

Tampa Bay, there's a lot of five or six, seven irrelevant franchises in the NFL on a yearly basis. Tampa Bay should not be. Cleveland ownership, in and out of coaches, in and out of quarterbacks, in and out of GMs. Good God, since Baker Mayfield arrived. Three coaches, interim coaches, numerous GMs. There's a reason they're bad. They're dysfunctional in ownership.

Washington Redskins. There's a reason they're dysfunctional. The owner is a meddler. Then there's organizations like Cincinnati. They're cheap. They just don't have a lot of money. Then there's organizations like Jacksonville. They're just apathy.

They're now playing games regularly in London, more than one this year. Tampa shouldn't be this bad. They've had great coaches. John Gruden, Sam Weish, Tony Dungey, Bruce Ariens. They've had Hall of Fame players. They've had, they won a Super Bowl. They've got passionate fans. Stadium can be packed.

They have great facilities. They should not be bundled up in this Cleveland, this kind of malaise of apathy and weak ownership. Their owners are not poor. I know the Glazer family. I love the kids. Didn't know the dad particularly well. but when I worked there for two years, the front office was smart, the players were good, the coaching was excellent, this was not Cleveland, this was not Washington, this is not Detroit,

it's not cheap Cincinnati. What has held them back? Quarterback. Since 1976, since Tampa's been a franchise, their passer rating last in the NFL, 73, completion percentage. This is hard to get your arms around. Last, 56%. Their quarterbacks have thrown 830 touchdowns and 852 picks.

This is, you know how franchises say, we are just a quarterback away? Tampa is? They're last in everything in quarterback. They've got a wealthy owner, passionate fans. smart people in the front office. They've had great coaches. They've won a Super Bowl. They've had great players.

When I was a kid growing up, we didn't have a pro football team in Seattle. Then we got one in 1976, 77 season. Seattle got one. Jim Zorn, Sherman Smith, Steve Largett. It was an offensive team. Couldn't stop a nosebleed. Tampa was the opposite. Tampa had the Selman brothers.

They were great defensively. They couldn't score. if you'd have just been able to combine the two. So I've been following Tampa forever. They were the team that came in with my Seahawks. And then I went and worked with them and had a blast. It was well run, smart people. But they never could get the quarterback right.

I was looking this morning. That's why Brady's going to fix this thing. Their first quarterback was Steve Spurrier. Way better coach than quarterback. Then they went to Randy Headberg. Boy, those were the days. Doug Williams was solid, not spectacular. Then they had a bunch of Steve DeBergs, Jack Thompson,

Vinnie Testa Verde for a few years. Back to Steve DeBerg, Trent Dillfer, my buddy. I covered those teams. Sean King, Brad Johnson, Brian Greasy, Chris Sims, Byron Leftwich, they had the Josh Freeman years, James Winston. They don't have one great quarterback ever.

The Super Bowl they won with Brad Johnson. His nickname, perhaps mean-spirited, was Captain Chalmers. They're the only franchise. They're it. Every other franchise has had a guy. One. Steve Young played for about an hour there. That doesn't count.

So last year is so classic Tampa. They were seven and nine. Six of their nine losses. Touchdown or less. In the game late. In those six losses, 12 turnovers. James Winston.

James Winston had 30 picks last year. In the last four years, Tom Brady's had 29. So James had more last year than Brady's had in almost half a decade. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the one franchise that can say, you know what, we're a quarterback away. And they have been mostly for the last 30 years. And now they've got one. He's a leader. He's a winner.

He is accurate. doesn't make big mistakes. He's great at the line. They are the one franchise where I look at and go, good Lord, if they could just get a quarterback, they never have. You think Chicago, Miami have had their problems? You think Denver's had their problems post John Elway. They've had talented guys. They had Peyton Manning. Got Tebow even won there. Yo, Miami, post-Danarino. They've had some interesting players. Tannahill wasn't bad. Tannahill would arguably be as good anybody Tampa's ever had. He's up there with Doug Williams. Better than Josh Freeman. His career is better than Trent Dover. He's a better player than Brad Johnson. So Brady's going to work.

Are they going to win a ton of games? I don't know, but they got the weapons. Let me also say this. I work at Fox Sports. Best place I've ever worked. Most fun I've ever had. This is, by the way, a weird two, three-week stretch. That's going to probably be a weird summer. But I was thinking yesterday with Tom Brady, it was a good day for Fox. For years and years, CBS made a lot of money putting Tom Brady on those late games. Tom Brady is now a Buccaneer. By the way, Tampa and Tom Brady next year face Aaron Rogers in Green Bay, Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, the L.A. Rams and Drew Breeze twice.

Those are all national TV games. Those are great watches. They'll be on Fox. Conversely, New England now, which CBS has leaned on is an absolute snooze. They have no weapons and Jared Stidham, and they just lost two of their best five defensive players. How good of the Patriots going to be? I said yesterday, I'm not so sure they haven't built up enough equity to tank to a golden state. They don't have a contingency plan.

They don't. They just let go of two top defensive players. Doesn't look like, from what I can tell, they've got anything planned. Why would they? Go five and 11, four and 12. Get rid of some players. Free up cap space. Rebuild and go get a quarterback next year.

But Tom Brady will win this divorce. And it may be, at least in the press, an amicable divorce. But he's going to win it for the first two years. Because he is inheriting Bruce Ariens and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and a great tight end, functional running backs. He's going to win this puppy. His production is going to be outstanding. and New England's going to be a complete bore at quarterback, and they've got, I believe, this morning the worst weapons in the NFL.

It is now a weapons league. So don't kid yourself on this. The Lakers were unwatchable the second Kobe retired. Cleveland twice. Fascinating to unwatchable twice. Golden State today. Unwatchable when the stars left. San Francisco without Jimmy Garoppolo being healthy, brutal.

He's healthy. can't take my eyes off him. Aaron Rogers, every time he rolls up on that collarbone and misses a game, you can't watch the Packers play. The Colts without Andrew Luck. So the consumer you control TV ratings. Therefore, you, the consumer, control the networks.

Tom Brady's going to be all over the networks for at least a year. Against Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees twice, L.A. Rams, Patrick Mahomes. CBS this morning is figuring out ways not to put the Patriots on. So short term, Brady, for a year at least, is going to get a lot of love, a lot of touchdowns, a lot of attention.

He'll be a topic on this show weekly. New England will not. Don't kid yourself. Fans are attracted to stars and stories. Brady is both. New England is neither. The winner in this divorce for a year, perhaps amicable, kind of sort of, is Tom Brady. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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You know what's interesting, Tom Brady is really, I think Belichick and Brady uniquely and both formed a culture in New England that was several things. very efficient, very cerebral, very detail-oriented.

I could make an argument that the Tampa Bay Buccaneer franchise, and this is not a shot at him, it's just their reality, is the opposite of New England. New England has really zero weapons and won't spend for them. That is now the strength of Tampa, their weapons. New England has sort of a no-days-off culture. No days off. Work your fingers to the bone.

Bruce Ariens, the coach of Tampa. Cocktails early. Once bragged on HBO, I don't understand why coaches can't go home for dinner. The exact opposite. New England is frugal and cerebral and efficient. Tampa's talented, unbelievably inefficient, the last several years with James Winston. New England, in the last 20 years, has been defined by the greatest quarterback ever. Tampa Bay's never had one.

One, New England cold weather. Tampa, September, October, you're playing in an outdoor sauna. Believe me, I've done live shots from that stadium. Boston's an academic hub. I'll say this nicely. Tampa is a strip club hub, and I'll leave it at that. No shot intended. We just do the facts here.

New England's got six Super Bowl banners in an end zone. Tampa Bay has a pirate ship. These are the opposite. If this was not football, it would be a midlife crisis. for Tom Brady. He's going to be productive. Is he going to win? I don't know. He'll win more than last year. But winning in the NFL is details. Production isn't details. Houston isn't very detail-oriented. They score a bunch of points. The Pittsburgh Steelers with Big Ben are not terribly efficient. They're not great with the details. They score a bunch of points. Winning in the NFL is detail.

Special teams, few penalties, don't turn it over, good coaching. New England does not have the most talent. Does anybody think over the last 10 years, they've been top two or three in overall talent? I do not. I do not. I thought that team, they beat that Charger team two years ago. They beat in the playoffs by 40.

I thought the Chargers had more players. Sort of the Pro Bowl voters. Okay, so Tom Brady's going to be productive, but he is going to the opposite of what he has been in. He has been in a frugal, efficient, cerebral, buttoned down, every paper picked up in the hallway franchise. Tampa Bay is loose, not saying it or not smart, but it's loose and talented and inefficient,

and they take big swings, and it's a different environment. It's not an academic hub like Boston is with 51 universities, where the Celtics compete against the Red Sox, they've always been ahead of the curve on analytics. The Celtics have, the Red Sox have, the Patriots have, to different culture. I think Tom's going to like it. you know it's again you're dating somebody that's more fun that goes to bed late stays up i think

you'll like it the question is will he become frustrated with it will there be times when he's like you know we just lost 27 26 because we had extra penalties and two of our guys couldn't remember a play remember this too the virus means no oTA no camps no workouts tom lives for that this is this is a Is it a weird pendulum swing, New England to Tampa, culturally, organizationally? But the virus is shutting down all the workouts. So you're going to have to do some of this on the fly. This will be the least prepared Tom Brady has ever been as a quarterback. And he thrives on details.

You remember the documentary Tom versus Time? You remember that. Tom like smirk when he said, God, I could just sit and watch this all day. as he's drinking a lean smoothie. As he's in, you know, pajamas he developed to sleep longer. As he's, you know, made of kale, as he's eating vegetable ice cream. He's all about the details. Tampa's not been.

And they're not going to massively change overnight. I just read something this morning. Tampa still can't get over the fact. Tom's there. Like, people in Tampa are like, what? Brady's going to wear a piece. he's going to wear orange. It's like, yeah.

It is a big swing. It is a big swing. He'll be productive. That, that I don't doubt. Tom will be productive. Will he win a bunch of games? You're going against Sean Payton. You know, you got Drew Breeze twice a year,

Matt Ryan twice a year. I think the Falcons are well run. Teddy Bridgewater, by the way, is now in division with Carolina. Unlike Cam, he doesn't make mistakes. So you're going to beat teams. They're not going to beat themselves. Matt Ryan didn't beat himself. John Payton and Breeze don't beat themselves. Teddy Bridgewater doesn't beat himself. Tampa historically

beats itself. Has games won? Screws up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. So Carolina is basically cutting the cord with Cam Newton. I've never been a huge fan of Cam. I am a big fan of Teddy Bridgewater. Bridgewater is now going to sign a contract three years. Incredibly reasonable money. Cam Newton fans are interesting. They remind me of people. people who are into politics, really embedded into politics. You can give them facts and they just don't care. People get so embedded, liberal, conservative.

It doesn't matter what you tell them. They don't want affirmation. They don't really want information. Cam fans, more than any fan base in the country, want this. Cam's average. Cam is a career 59% completion percentage. That's below average. Passer ratings 86.

Average. He's an average player who had one. One great year. That's it. Talented? Yeah, big, yeah, strong, yeah. Handsome, yeah. Model, yeah.

Stylish, yeah. Good? Not really. Not really. I hate to break it to you. Well, he didn't have enough support. Stop. Ron Rivera was out of work for as long as the phone call took for Washington to pay him millions.

Great coach. Well, I'll just say, good coach. Got to a Super Bowl. offensive lines Cam had multiple pro bowlers including Trey Turner who just got traded to the Chargers defense

mostly top 10 with Ron Rivera running backs he had three different good ones DeAngelo Williams Jonathan Stewart Christian McCaffrey wide receiver Steve Smith Hall of Famer tied in Greg Olson I don't want to hear he didn't have help

by the way this offense with Teddy Bridgewater is going to score a ton of points he wasn't efficient that's a cam issue. Since his MVP year, he's a 500 quarterback with 65 TDs and 44 picks. Well, he runs around. That used to be unique. Now he's not even the best at that. He's average. He's an average quarterback who had a great year. You can find kickers. You can find receivers. You can find running backs who have a great year. But I don't want to hear that he didn't have support. How many Hall of Fame running backs and wide receivers has Aaron Rogers had? Name the great defense as Aaron Rogers

has had. Aaron Rogers has had less help defensively than Cam, and I would say less running back help than Cam. Well, Mike McCarthy, you sure he's better than Ron Rivera? All my sources say coin flip, a lot of them like Ron Rivera more than Mike McCarthy. McCarthy's had better quarterbacks. So, Cam's never had back-to-back winning seasons, and I've always felt that really defines him, is that Cam is inconsistent, Cam is distracted, Cam has a lot of interests. And it's not that he, I've said this, talent, it's indisputable. But to be great year after year after year, it doesn't matter if you're a quarterback

or a salesperson. You need to be emotionally consistent and Cam is not. Cam's all over the map. Cam's got a lot more issues behind the scenes than anybody wants to talk about. This is a career passer rating guy of 86. They're going to be better offensively with Teddy Bridgewater. We all get caught up an arm and size. It's not what this league.

about. This league is overwhelmingly about. Don't make a ton of mistakes. Be good on third down. Be above average at the line of scrimmage. A lot of guys winning Super Bowls that don't have cannons for arms. Okay, Jared Goff got to a Super Bowl. It's not a world-class athlete. He lost to Tom Brady in that Super Bowl. Not a world-class athlete. Tom Brady lost to Nick Foles in a Super Bowl. Neither is a world-class athlete. Is Jimmy Garapolo a world-class athlete? I mean, last four or five Super Bowls, we've had one world-class athlete, Patrick Malhams, on a Super Bowl. And the other thing is Matt Rule is the new coach of Carolina. And Matt Rule is all about creating cultures.

That's his stamp, right? Like at Baylor. He's a culture creator. What he's telling you with Cam, I don't want him to be any part of my culture. I got no interest, Cam being part of my culture. I'm going to create a different culture, and I like Teddy Bridgewater as a fit. and, you know, people say, Colin, you don't like Cam. Carolina doesn't like him.

They signed another quarterback and he's, and Cam's still on the team. Meaning, they may just cut him. I mean, they already said goodbye to him. They don't like him. And they know more about him than I do. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

As far as New England, we know, Tom Brady's going to a very, very talented offense. By the way, the Buccaneers defense last year with Todd Bowles, who I always liked, he's a better coordinator than a head coach, was top 10 in the NFL in efficiency. Tampa Bay is going to win some games and be productive. Are they a playoff team in the crowded NFC? I'm not sure. It's not an organization that historically has been buttoned down in terms of details,

though they've had a ton of talent. I think Tom swings that pendulum a little bit. They become a little more efficient, if not a lot more efficient. But it is a division where it's kind of hard to, you know, you got twice a year Breeze, twice a year now Bridgewater, twice a year Matt Ryan, guys that don't beat themselves. These are going to be tight, tight games. It's going to be probably the strongest quarterback division in the NFL in terms of efficiency between Breeze and Bridgewater and Brady and Matt Ryan. No stiffs. Not a lot of picks. A lot of smart dudes. Belichick has a plan because he's smart and always has a plan.

I just saw this morning he let us. Another defensive player go. That's four total defensive players he's let go. Van Nuoy, Jamie Collins, Duran Harmonon, good player, rotational player. Sometimes starters gone to Detroit. He's done a couple solids for Detroit. His buddy, Matt Patricia, Brian Flores, coach of Miami, his buddy.

I think they have a plan. It's starting Jared Sidham. Tom Brady is already $13 million on the cap this year and not there. So if you played an Andy Dalton, if you paid Andy Dalton $20 million, that's a $33 million. quarterback. I don't think he wants to do that. I don't believe that smart people that always have a plan suddenly are caught off guard. They didn't make an offer to Tom.

They didn't pursue Tom. They haven't pursued weapons. This feels like to me we'll start Jared Sidham. We'll go five and 11, maybe six and ten. Put ourselves in the top ten in the draft. We built up a lot of equity. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they think they go in the Super Bowl.

Look at the roster. Look at what they're doing. Seems to me they're getting younger. They're a little old. It looks like they're getting younger and less expensive. They're going to pay very few people. Stefan Gilmore, they're going to pay. They're kicker.

They're going to pay. Joe Tuny, O'Lignment, they're going to pay. Not many other people. Certainly not the quarterback position. Am I surprised that Tom Brady left? I said this yesterday when I got a call 30 minutes into the show that he was going to Tampa Bay. We broke that story about six hours before, you know, your typical NFL guys.

I was surprised it was Tampa. I was not shocked. I was surprised he left New England. But never forget, superstars. Kevin Durant left the dynasty. Why? What do we find out? Why?

Later. It was that Draymond Green moment. And he didn't feel the organization addressed Draymond Green. Why did LeBron leave Cleveland a second time? LeBron felt the organization didn't listen to him. They traded Kyrie Irving. LeBron said, do not. Who cares if he wants to go?

Do not trade him. Tom Brady. The organization. wouldn't listen to him. I need weapons. These alpha males, they want to be treated differently. And if they've won titles for you, LeBron and Golden State and Brady and New England, sometimes when they say stuff, listen to them. They deserve to get babyed a little.

Durant did not forget the Draymond situation. He ignored it and he played through it and he played nice, but he didn't forget. And LeBron kept trying hard and played. really well post-Khry, but he never forgot. And Brady, weapons, he's wanted them. I read a story Albert Breer said this morning, listen, Brady grew older, had kids, found business interests outside of football, and may to some degree have been done being dealt with as if he was a long snapper.

You know, and I also think the Jimmy Garoppolo thing. I'm going to play a bite. T.J. Hushman Zada had predicted on our show, Brady's zero percent chance he's coming back. Let's be honest about it. Tom, Belichick wanted to replace him a couple years ago. And much like Durant with Golden State or LeBron and Kyrie in Cleveland, Tom may play nice, but Tom knows two years ago, you tried to get rid of me for a guy that I think I'm still better than.

Here's T.J. He thinks that's the reason Tom left. I look at the Jimmy G situation where Belichick was basically, he was gone, lawyer, my lawyer, and Richard Seaborum. he was going to get rid of him when he could still play. And Bob Kraft said, no, no, no, you're not doing this. So they got rid of Jimmy G. And I don't believe Brady could ever get over there. That's like your wife saying, no, I'm going to go date another man.

Okay, are you okay with it? Oh, I'm going to stay with you. I didn't know he had a girlfriend. Like, who's going to go for that? And so Brady had to put up with it. And now that he can leave, he's going to leave. I mean, Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, He criticized his high school coach.

You know, alpha males may play nice and play through it, but they don't forget. And maybe that was the reason. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending. Opinions are flying. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where sports slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.

And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on Earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person.

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He is a former buck. he reported over the last weekend. He said, hey, Brady's down to the Bucks and the Patriots. And he also reported the Niners are out. He is good friends with Kyle Shanahan. And so Chris is joining us on a pretty frenetic week. Let me start. First of all, Chris, thanks for coming on.

I appreciate this. Oh, anytime, man. Hey, Colin, you're the man. I enjoy listening to you. I watch you all the time. And anytime I get a chance, earn them free, I'm down to come on with you, man. So you, I cover the... the bucks for two years. I thought

it was well run and smart. It was a little loose, but I always thought there were smart people in the front office. I covered Dungey and I covered Sam Weish. This is the one franchise in America that can say, you know, we just have never had a superstar

quarterback. Right. Your experience there, how does Tom and that attention to detail, how does it fit in Tampa, in your opinion? Yeah, well, I mean, that's going to be a bit of a culture shock. I mean, I'm sure he's going to be a little bit like, hey, even though I'm used to obsessive, compulsive, cross every T, dot every I, you know, type of coaches. And not to say

that, you know, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Bruce Ariens aren't that way, but come on. I mean, we know that Bill Belichick leads the history of football in that department, so nobody's going to be quite that. To your point, to what you said, I mean, I think it's a city that's starving for this type of player. You know, when I was there and lost my spleen, not long after that, you might remember that we were very into the Brett Favre chase there before he ended up picking the New York Jets that year. So this is a franchise in the Glazers who I think is really welcoming this opportunity. And yeah, will it be as buttoned up as perfect as New England? No, nobody is that way. But I do think that Tom Brady's going to get a lot of things that he didn't get in New England with

Tampa, and that is a head coach that's going to show a little affection and respect and maybe more a little more dialogue about game plan and what to do and how he feels and all of those things that I'm sure really appeal to Tom Brady, let alone the team and the offense have potential with him because Brady can still throw the ball at a very, very high level. His arm is still towards the top of football as far as arm strength is concerned. I never thought the – I mean, I like the Glazer kids. he's obviously in terms of wealth. He's got some ownership over in the UK with the English Premier League team.

Did you like the Glazers? Did you find them willing to spend money and easy to talk to? And the right kind of owner, you know, you can't win in this league with a bad ownership group. How did you feel they were his owners? Oh, I think the world of the Glazer family. I mean, first off, they have a great human humanity side to them. They care about their coaches and the people in the United States. organization as people. They really showed that with me with my spleen and my issues. And, you know,

they're invested. They're in that building a lot. Yeah. They are. And, you know, they care about their Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And they'll stick their nose in, but I think just the right amount, you know, to where they let the coaches and the people they hired run their organization, but they certainly have a good feel of what's going on. And they're not scared to spend money, as we're seeing right here with this. I mean, you know, this is pretty awesome. And then, the franchise tag of Shaquille Barrett and getting back JPP and everything like that. Tampa, even before Brady signed there, was one of those teams where, you know, I had a little asterisk next to say, ooh, watch out.

They could be very good next year. And, of course, now this makes you feel a little bit more confident in saying that. I'm a Todd Bowles fan as a coordinator. You know, I've said this before. Al Gore was a great vice president. You know, maybe not the president. There are guys that are built to be vice president. I think Bowles is a great defensive coordinator.

Definitely. I'm with you. Creative. And I think, you know, you've got to be that way this day and age. You know, the day and age of like, oh, we're just going to line up and play two defenses and we're going to be sound and we won't mess up. You know, I just think that's over. If you're not able to conform and change on a week-to-week basis like we've seen New England do for the past 20 years and, oh, yeah, that's right. They've dominated the league for 20 years. Then I just think you're crazy.

So I do like that aspect, special Front 7 in Tampa. I mean, special. Those two linebackers they got, you know, Levanti David and the kid from, you know, I'm blanking on his name from LSU, Devin White. And then, of course, the defense aligned. They have some young upcoming superstars in the secondary. So I think, yes, those are things that had to appeal to Tom Brady, let alone, whoa, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, two really good tight ends. Yeah, too. Yeah, right.

And in a creative, offensive minds in Ariens and Lefich. Yeah, I think they'll address one of their tackle spots, get a running back, and they're ready to roll. I think it's a real football team. Now, New England, we've used this analogy several times. Golden State wins a bunch of games. They have equity with their fans so they can reboot. The fans will fill the stadium several years after Michael Jordan had his six titles. New England, my guess is they go with Jared Stidham.

They've already given up on four defensive players. They get younger. They get cheaper. And they kind of reboot for a year. I do think there is a big. big drop-off. I don't like their weapons at all. I have no idea what I get with Stedham. Is it possible? Not tanking, but that Belichick's saying, this is a year. We get rid of some money. We get younger. It's a complete reboot year. And then we get in the top eight or nine of the draft next year and get one of these quarterbacks.

Well, yeah, I think that's very real. I mean, that thought is, yeah, they're retooling. Now, New England's special. I mean, they can retool and rebuild and still make it to the playoffs. You know, I'm never going to count them out here. I'm really not. There's still a lot of quality football players and a coaching staff that I just think the world of. Yeah, to me on the outside looking in, I know for a fact that they love Jared Sidham. Are they willing to roll with him right now and year two of his career without him playing? I'm not so sure about that. I still wouldn't rule out maybe Andy Dalton ending up in New England.

I really wouldn't. So we'll see how all that shakes out. But, you know, nonetheless, I do think, yes, New England is in the little. era here of retooling, refurbishing their football team to get back at, you know, a level we're used to seeing them at. And they're not quite there yet. But, you know, they'll get there. I know that. And they're all about value signings, as we know, Colin. Like Demir Bird at wide receiver. Nobody's really going to know that. But, you know, they signed him from Arizona last year, pretty good player who has potential to be something. You know, that's how they play football.

And I certainly am not counting them out yet. By the way, I had a, I'll just say this. I had a very prominent NFL person tell me yesterday that it was brief. But Jimmy G, you could have made a call to San Francisco. They would have at least listened to the phone call. This person said, we heard about it. You said, you were the first one that said, there's a rumor out there with a Niners. it's now officially done.

I was told yesterday, even though I didn't understand it, that Garapolo, if not on the market, they would have listened to calls. Can you give us some clarity now, now that it appears, you know, Brady's in Tampa, Garoppolo is going to be the guy? Yeah, sure. No, you know, I knew a lot really about the situation

and, you know, from both sides, from all angles. You know, yeah, you said it. I do know Kyle Shanahan, of course. You know, he calls me John. Johnny Media now, so he's very scared to tell me much, okay? That's what he calls me. So I don't get much information from Kyle Shanahan anymore and really try to stay out of those combos a lot of the time.

But I knew some people that were, you know, connected to Brady where I had to feel the situation. You know, I know some people in New England as well. I do think the Brady to San Francisco thing was a very real possibility. Yeah. I think I know Brady wanted it. Yeah. You know, I do think the 49ers, from my understanding, tossed around the idea.

And I think that's where people, you know, maybe missed that conversation a little bit, and they just thought, oh, yeah, Brady to 49ers, are they just going to do that and swap out Jimmy Jean? No. You know, I think a big part of that was if you were going to make that move for a 43-year-old quarterback who maybe, you know, leaves after one year and just says, okay, I'm too old. It's over. You've got to get a respectable trade offer for Jimmy Garapolo, too. I think people are missing that piece of the puzzle.

You weren't just going to swap out, you know, I know Brady's the goat for Jimmy Garapolo, who's just starting to hit the prime of his career and just say, oh, we'll just make an even swap and that's it. No, you know, I think a big factor with that would be the 49ers would have to have an offer and acquire some assets to go along with it to move on from Jimmy G. Because there is great risk at signing a quarterback who's 43 years old and maybe only plays one or two more years or, you know, pulls a calf muscle, you know, in week two because he is 43. and we go, damn, you know, well, yeah, what'd you expect? He's 43.

Those type of things happen. So I do think that was a very big part of that conversation for sure, Colin. Yeah, and that's what I was told yesterday that there were suitors. I mean, you and I can both figure them out. Chargers probably would have called. I would think so. Carolina probably would have called. You know, I mean, Chicago may be called.

So I mean, I think you, I guess my point is there was more to it than I gave it credit for. And you were on the front of this, Johnny Media, and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, Colin Media. I appreciate that. Finally, you know, it is basketball's changed. It used to be, it was about centers. Now you can't have a second guy on the court that can't shoot a three.

Clint Capella, Houston, no value. Because Westbrook can't shoot a three. We can't have two. In the NFL, accuracy and mobility matter, the world's changing pocket quarter. I always say this. Jacob Eason would have been the top quarterback prospect eight years ago. Now he's probably number five. He's kind of flackoish. I look at Cam Newton. I don't see a huge marketplace. I don't. I don't see. I mean, injured, inaccurate, drama, older. Chicago went and got foals. So what's the marketplace for Cam? I've been saying this. I don't see it.

Well, no, listen, there's certainly risk, because there's no doubt about that, and especially right now with the fact that teams can't do, you know, medical check-ins and check-ups on guys, that's really going to throw a wrench into Cam Newton. You know, listen, I don't know the particulars of what happened to Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers, but just as it looks right now, yeah, I mean, it kind of seems like Carolina did them dirty. I mean, oh, hey, all the quarterback seats are full. Hey, now you can go seek a trade. Whoa, okay, great. You mean, up until an hour ago, there was only two teams that need a quarterback, and you just said it. The Bears filled that hole in McFalls.

So now is the Chargers going to get in play? You know, I don't know. I don't know. I just, you know, it feels like they solved their guard and left tackle spot. It feels like they're getting ready to put somebody in that spot like a Justin Herbert. They don't want to get dinged up. Right. You know, that's what it, that Beluga's got maybe one or two years left.

What they're trying to do it feels like to me is we're going to get a young guy. The one thing we don't want is him to get his butt kicked physically and lose confidence. It makes sense. I mean, you know, I have no problem with that. I certainly, you know, Justin Herbert, I just, I've been studying him. I mean, he's a special talent. He's a top 10 pick, in my opinion. Yeah.

There's no doubt about that. So if they want to go the route and play with Tyrod Taylor for a year, hey, that's fine. I do think Cam Newton fits the style in which they want to play. I mean, Anthony Lynn being an ex-running back, them having a top five defense in football. Hey, you mentioned it. Cam Newton is not the type of guy that we think is going to go like 35 for 42 and you're going to drop him back and he's just going to wheel and deal all game long. No, but he can play that style of football, a ball control.

Hey, we ran the ball. Hey, Cam, you run the ball. Okay, you haven't thrown the ball in a few plays, but it doesn't matter. You're Cam Newton. Just muscle in some 20-yard in-cut in there. he is capable of doing that. That's what he's been doing. So, you know, the potential of Cam Newton excites me. The chargers do need, you know, billboard material there in L.A. You know, and that's the one thing I do look at it. But other than that, you know, you're right, Colin. I don't know where he ends up at this point in time.

You know, it makes me think, Chris, I know Anthony Lynn wants to move the pocket. Right. I know that. And I know Spanos has said, we need to sell tickets. I wonder if, because if there's no market, for Cam, you're going to get him in a value, and you draft Jordan Love. Okay. And then you say, okay, Cam, two-year deal, we're going to sit Jordan for two years. You both have similar styles. Now, that would make sense to me because Jordan Love has got a little Cam. I don't think he's quite as gifted.

But now that would be interesting. So I could solve, in your opinion, I could solve the Billboard problem. Right. I get a good number on Cam. Right. And I get the next Cam. That is interesting. No doubt.

Some possibility there. It does. And, of course, you know, you have a defense and a lot of things on your team that you like to where you go. You can win now. Oh, yes. You really can, right? Yes. Yes.

So that I look at that. And, you know, the big thing, again, with Cam Newton is just going to be the medical checkup and how that all plays out. Because, you know, you said it. You're right. He's 30 years old. He's been beat up. He's played the position in a style in a way. that we've really never seen a quarterback play that way.

So does it catch up to them? I think that's the fear. I would say no, not yet. You know, I would say that we're still going to see a few good years from Cam Newton before this is all said and done. And the big thing is, like you just said too, I mean, you're not going to have to trade much to get them. No. Especially maybe nothing now because there's going to be no competition.

They've gone all in with Teddy Bridgewater. They've cornered himself there. So, you know, you might be able to just. say, hey, we're going to wait until you release them. Just release them, and then we'll sign them. It might not have to trade anything. Chris Sims, great talking to you. Listen to your dad every week as well, doing his radio hits during the season with that crazy Chris Russo. So I hear the whole family all the time, man, good talking to you. Thanks, man. Good talking to you as always. Be good, buddy.

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