The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Mar 27, 2020

Episode Date: March 27, 2020

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This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowherd on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go on a Friday live in Los Angeles. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we are once again on all our platforms. Fox Sports Radio, IHeart Radio, FS1, Serious XM, Channel, 83, also all over Twitter and our social media platforms. One hour from now, my wife told me all week, I'll listen to your show only when Mark Cuban comes on. He'll be on in one hour from now.

A philanthropist, business icon, outspoken, owner of the Dallas Mavericks, and a smart guy, billionaire Mark Cuban. Joining us, and Joy Taylor is joining me. How are you this morning, Joy? I'm great. How are you doing, Con? I am doing well. I want to start with this. People now are talking and making claims that, you know, we're not going to have the NFL season or college football season, and I don't know. I've got my hunches on things. I do think the economy is going to start back up in May. I don't know what we do. I think Vegas is going to kick things off in April. Not sure how it ends up.

Maybe they'll be the national guinea pig on that, but I think casinos are going to open up, Whether or not anybody's in them, I think they're going to open up first, the first big city to reopen. And that'll be a few weeks from now. But to LeBron James yesterday talking about the NBA season, which I don't know if it's going to happen. I'm crossing my fingers. I think they have to be very, very open-minded on playing with no fans. And LeBron James says, I can't get my arms around that idea. Having a game without fans is just what is our, what is sport?

What is the worst sport without fan? There's no excitement. There's no crying. There's no joy. There's no back and forth. There's no rhyme or reason that you want to go on a road and just dethrone the home team because of their fans and vice versa. Like, that's what also brings up the competitive side of the players to know that you're going on the road in a hostile environment.

And yes, you're playing against that opponent in front of you, but you really want to kick the fans to. Remember, we're not asking. NBA players to play without fans forever or an entire season. This is temporary. Right now I'm doing a television show by myself in a studio, a radio studio. I've eaten at Panera Bread for Breakfast nine straight mornings. I've run out of clothes. If you turn on FS1 right now, it looks like I'm an advertisement for farmers.com. I've got no shirts left. By next Tuesday, I could be doing this in my underwear. It's temporary.

My wife is in Utah with some kids. I'm at home. I am sitting in a studio. This is hopefully not what it's like next year at this time. It is simply temporary. This is the world we all live in. You have to ask yourself, do you want an NBA season? Then you better get ready to play without fans.

You can practice. Adam Silver can absolutely test every single player, staff member, official, and executive for coronavirus. And if everybody tests negative, you can work out, you can practice. And these are also the youngest, best conditioned athletes in the world along with international soccer players. So most would be asymptomatic. And frankly, they have very, very, very low risk. For some reason, I don't know why this virus. is far more punitive to people in poor health older than young health.

And just age-wise, it's tougher on people over 50 than under 50. That's where the death rate spikes. But if you want an NBA season, do you really believe we're what, six, seven weeks out from 20,000 people jammed up next to each other in NBA arenas? The NBA players are going to have to come to terms with this. Either you're willing to play with no fans or there's no season, or, and I've thought about this, modify the fans where you let one quarter of the arena in and you have to be two or three seats apart. Sounds weird. Guess what? Everything now is

weird. You've got to be willing to roll with this stuff. Charles Barkley, though, said it yesterday as well. The NBA style points matter. I mean, let's be honest. If there's a great one-on-one game at the YMCA, people walk by and they stop and they want to watch it. It's different. Different. Basketball, as Barkley said, is truly different. I think it's impossible to play without fans. One of the reasons the game is great. You want to showcase your talent. The crowd has a huge effect upon the game.

I know there was times I was tired, and the crowd's going nuts, and I'm just like, I get energy from anywhere. There's nothing better than sticking it to a fan who's sitting right behind the fence, who's harassing you the whole game. But when somebody is giving you a hard time, that motivates you. I agree. But you're going to have to be self-motivated this point forward, perhaps for the entire playoff season.

We're not going to have 20,000 fans in five weeks in arena. It's not going to work. It's not going to happen. The CDC is currently saying no more than 10 people in any group. In my town, we can't even now walk on a woodchip trail. First, it was no walking more than four people. Then it was two people. Then it's only family members.

Yesterday, I couldn't get on it. We are not five and six weeks away from 20,000 people, elbow to elbow, in an NBA arena. Let me move to this. The NFL draft is going forward, as it should. Roger Goodell, the commissioner sent a memo out warning against public comments from people in the NFL. The NFL draft, the NFL and the NBA have really different sensibilities. The NBA, we watch the highlights more than the games.

It's got a younger fan base. Younger people are on Twitter. It's very beholden to, it's a little more socially conscious. It perceives itself as that. A little more political as a league. and it's also hyper popular on Twitter. The NFL's got an older fan base. Only 22% of Americans are even on Twitter.

I would say it's much more NBA fans and soccer fans than baseball and NFL guy. The NFL simply doesn't care about Twitter as much. They're not beholden to it. I'll give you an example. In my life, I make money from a network, cable, radio, podcasting. I don't care about Instagram. I don't make any money off it. So that's what I'm beholden to.

I'm beholden to Fox Sports. Fox Sports Radio, FS1, IHeart, my podcast. That's where I make the money. The NFL has figured something out about Twitter. Twitter turns its back on everybody. You know who never turns its back on the NFL? Fox, CBS, NBC. That's who they're loyal to.

And those people want to draft. NBA, they say, start too soon. They lost $500 million on a tweet from an NBA GM. They got all freaked out. NFL doesn't care as much. If the NFL cared about Twitter, Colin Kaepernick would be in the league. They don't, because Twitter doesn't pay them anything. The NFL takes care of its TV networks, and the TV networks never turn their back on the NFL. Twitter turns its back on everybody, and that's very closely aligned with the NBA. So what I worry about with the NBA is, oh boy, if you start too soon. It spikes

corona in arenas. Oh, my Lord. People go crazy on social media. I think the NBA could be punitively damaged their reputation by that. NFL is going to hold a draft. Ask yourself this. Does everybody here want to watch another

show about a guy who collects tigers? Or do you want to see Tua get drafted by the Miami Dolphins? What do you want to watch? Because that's what the NFL cares about. The NFL got lucky with this. The combine had already taken place.

We had an awesome Super Bowl. But free agency, the NFL schedule's coming out, by the way, in two weeks, April 17th. I'll spend four days on that. And the NFL draft is mostly phone calls and paperwork. And they are not beholden to social media. They don't give a rip if they did Kaepernick's in this league. And Cam's getting a job tomorrow with a team. They don't care.

They care about their TV partners. that's who pay them, that's who pays them, and they want a draft. And they're going to get a draft. And I think the draft is absolutely what we need. Any sports that we can do with social distancing are very valuable. Free agency period. It got a lot of pushback. This is wrong NFL.

You are forgetting. And they did it, and it was unbelievable. How much fun was free agency? It was a blast. The Brady Buccaneer thing was unethel. Unbelievable. And we were all okay. If you can do sports without creating a virus, you can't worry about optics. The NFL doesn't. It's one of the things I really like about him. I'm going to ask Mark Cuban about that in one hour. This is a league NBA, which has been very, very political and socially conscious and sometimes Twitter connected. And if they push back in a season and then they get in there too early and you have a spike in coronavirus in cities having NBA games. games, how does that play for the league? Are you concerned about the backlash for that? All leagues have different sensibilities. NFL and the NBA are two totally separate businesses.

The NFL is domestic. It worries about its domestic TV partners. The NBA is much more global and international. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise.

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Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, Hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her.

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down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ed Wurter, trust this guy, knowing well, said a source within the Cowboys told him, Dak and the Cowboys are getting closer to the negotiation point where they're going to resolve the seemingly never-ending contract with Dak Prescott. And it says Prescott will emerge as the highest paid NFL player. It should be noted, Travis Frederick, his great center, the Cowboys led the NFL in yards per rush with him, 22nd without him is no longer a cowboy and retired. Left tackle Tyron Smith no longer plays 16 games.

He's a 13, 12, 13 a game player in the NFL. Those are their two best offensive linemen. Zach Martin's also older but still elite. My take on this is the Cowboys now have, and I'll read these off of paper here, seven positions where they're top three in player compensation. if this deal comes through. Quarterback, running back, left tackle, right guard, defensive end, wide receiver, linebacker.

It was eight with Travis Frederick. He just retired. What is the problem with that? In the NFL, you do not have to be great at everything. That's not the game. What you have to be, you have to avoid being terrible or bad at anything. This is the Patriots genius.

They're rarely dominant. in any one thing. They're never terrible at everything or anything. Why is that matter? Because football, more than baseball and basketball, is about coaching. Now, I still think quarterbacks are more valuable than a coach, but the NBA, where LeBron goes, they win, right? Pat Riley's important, but he wasn't winning titles the year before LeBron got there, right?

In the NBA, Phil Jackson, I think the last series he ever coached in the playoffs. I could be wrong. I think he got swept by the Dallas Mavericks. He didn't have enough players. So Red Arbach's not doing anything without Bill Russell. Baseball. It's about your staff. I mean, it's your payroll.

The Yankees have 27, 28 world championships. They've always had more stars. They have more history. They have more bankroll. There's no salary cap. There's a reason the Dodgers and the Yankees, you get the point. But in football, salary cap, it's a hard cap, not a lot of loophole. You need a coach and a quarterback.

those two are the only two that you can point to and say they win. Coaching is so important in football and I think mostly so good that if you have a hole by the time you get to week 12, 13, 14, like Belichick always says, this season's about post- Thanksgiving. That's when you figure out who can coach. That New England's been average, many years, slightly above average, pre-thanksgiving. They're great, usually until last year, post- Thanksgiving. Because they were four and five their last.

nine games. They're old now and unathletic and, you know, there's limitations. Brady yelling, screaming at his players that can't get open. So I'll give you an example. The Saints. The Saints have a real hole. They can't throw the ball downfield. They couldn't do it with Teddy. They don't do it with Drew Breeze. They're still really good. But by the time the playoff comes around, the last three years, they've been eliminated by the Vikings twice and the Rams. Why? Because they averaged 350 yards of offense. And they scored about 22 and a half points a game. In the regular season, they can drop 29, 32, 41. Their offense, not their defense, was the liability against the Rams and the Vikings twice. They just couldn't get enough big plays.

That's their hole. The Dallas Cowboys are in a situation right now, losing Jeff Heath at safety and Byron Jones at corner. Their secondary wasn't great with Byron Jones. So now they're going to have to address it in the draft because they didn't upgrade it massively in free agency. And if they whiff or they have, I mean, are you going to ask a rookie corner to walk into the NFC and dominate? All they are, the cowboys are a left tackle injury, Tyron Smith, or a secondary injury away from being dreadful on the O line and regrettable in the secondary. You can't do that in the NFL.

You don't have to be great at everything. You can't be terrible at anything. Coaches will attack it relentlessly. So if Dak's the highest paid player, you have seven of the highest paid players at their position in the NFL. We all know it's a salary cap and you're going to be thin,

but go-ass the Rams. Rams lost Gurley and a right guard. Not the same football team. Even with McVeigh, even with all those receivers. Rams may have the second or third best receiving court. May have the best in the entire NFL. Couldn't move the ball.

Be sure to catch live edition. of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. I do think there's a psychological effect. There are certain ramifications. You can't ask a family of five to be in a small New York City apartment forever. You know, this is the reality of this situation now. There's psychological damage. You're asking people week after week after week to be confined. They've done studies on this where it creates conflict and anger. People need to be outside. and walking. You know, does it mean everybody wears one of those N95 masks?

You know, they say it blocks 95% of the possibility of you giving it to somebody. Masks for all Americans, you need $300 million or whatevs. But I do think there's, I think at some point you have to, you can't not have. Let's be honest about this. We're all going to make exceptions for stuff, right? Like, let's say, if I said to you, if we closed, nobody left their house for a year. We'd never have this virus again, but it would completely wreck the economy for 10 years. Would it be worth it?

No. Because you'd have massive poverty. Poverty means children don't have medical opportunities. They don't have the quality health care. So we're all going to make some exceptions here to balance a massive health crisis and to this point an economic challenge. I don't think it's an economic crisis yet, but it's a challenge. So yes, I mean, you know, if you have to take another eight, to 10 weeks. But if to eliminate all death the next year, nobody works. All right. But then it wrecks

the economy and creates poverty all over America. That spikes. And that means bad news for even the middle class, for children. So, you know, Kirk Herb Street, a friend of mine was on yesterday somewhere and said he thinks this thing, forget NBA season. He doesn't think we're going to have a football season. I'll be shocked if we have NFL football this fall, if we have college football. Be so surprised if that happens. Just because from everything I understand, people that I listen to, you're 12 to 18 months away from a vaccine until you have a vaccine. I don't know how you can let these guys go into locker rooms

and let stadiums be filled up and how you can play ball. I just don't know how you can do it with the optics of it. Well, you know, banks were too big to fail. Our government decided the NFL is on the border of too big not to play. It has that kind of economic ramifications across American cities. As Ryan Rusillo also said, the NFL gets to watch the NBA and watch baseball and see what works and what doesn't. Remember, the NFL has always been a television league. Baseball is a newspaper sport because every day as kids, we'd go to the newspaper to see the box score.

So there's a relationship between newspapers and baseball. It's still very powerful. NBA is really huge in social media. The NFL is a TV sport. No fans, no problem. Shrink the shot, show the field. It fits perfectly into a television. Pipe in fake crowd noise.

You don't need fans. And players, by the way, have helmets and masks. And pads and I mean, there's, there's, I just think the NFL will figure out a way to do it. Also, the NFL already plays in bad weather the last two and a half months. Push it back to mid-October if you have to. That's my takeaway. Not that Herb Street is wrong. Is it too extreme?

I don't know. I'm going to have Mark Cuban on top of the hour. He's going to tell me if it's extreme. I'm following epidemiologists. The only thing the media has done I don't like. You cannot compare us to China. don't believe any of the numbers out of China. It's a dictatorship. Don't compare us to Europe. We're younger than Europe. New York City's average age is 35 years old. That's young by American

standards. Most cities average 37, 38 years of age. It's also got a great health care system in New York City. It's a dynamic financial area in the country. Europe, Germany, by the way, is handling this in Europe much better than the other countries. It's also the richest, most powerful economy in Europe. They have some social distancing. There's density, population, density in Italy, in Spain, and New York City. So a lot of this stuff, I don't know. I do get uncomfortable when the media that's not doctors start comparing us to other

provinces and countries. You know, we're not Mexico. We're not China. We're not Italy. We're the states. In fact, within the United States, you have Texas that's huge and very spread out. And then urban areas like San Francisco and in New York. You know, in Los Angeles, people live in cars.

In New York, they have a subway system. Is that problematic? It would seem to me it is. So I don't have any answers. Herb Street's going to get crushed for saying this. I don't know that he's too extreme. I don't know that he's wrong. But I do know the NFL gets to watch baseball in the NBA

and they're playing outdoors. It's cold weather to begin with. They can move the schedule back. I think we'll have some level. of NFL on television. I do. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies,

and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist,

Keer Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tript Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough

because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely.

And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast. Learn the hard way. Open your free iHeartRadio app.

Search Learn the hard way and listen now. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.

He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? My mom. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, ref, Mom, I'm a one. I want you to weigh better. What? Hey, Miss Parker.

Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner,

we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Mark Cuban is joining us, the Mavericks owner. They were having a terrific year, an entrepreneur, an investor, and a very smart guy. So I'll get right to it.

You're a busy person. I was talking Mark about this, about cost analysis. If you could shut the economy down for two years and nobody ever gets it again, that sounds great, but we would go into a full-scale depression and have utter poverty. So you guys like you have to have these very uncomfortable conversations. When you're talking about soon but not too soon, this morning, where do you land on that? I mean, all you can do is look for the information. I mean, Colin, we're working with imperfect information right now,

and that's the genesis of the problem. Nobody really knows when this thing will end. Nobody really knows what it is yet. No one knows, can we cure it? We think we can, but it's not done yet. And, you know, on one hand, it could take a long time. The other hand, you know, the cure could pop up tomorrow, go into trials, and be ready to go in three weeks.

We don't know. So you have to anticipate all the different options, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Do we need a vaccine to really have a full-fledged economy where people are in restaurants? Your opinion on that? No, because of the vaccine. vaccine is to prevent you from getting it. And again, let me take a step back. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a medical expert. I'm just giving you, you know, my opinion and nothing more. So I think we need to know that the doctors are telling us it's safe. You know, we need to know that the experts are telling us

it's safe. We can't guess. We can't, oh, now we have a vaccine. No, we, you know, when the surgeon general and the doctor, when Dr. Fauci says it's okay, then it's okay in my book. I do about sometimes on cable, journalism becomes a commodity where it's about either attacking a president or defending him. Do you think the news coverage has amplified the problem or been a non-factor? Amplified it dramatically, dramatically. Because first you have to recognize who's the audience for most cable news, right? It's older. You know, 21-year-olds aren't turning on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News to get their information about any of this. What's happening is you're dealing, you know, If you look at the average age of someone watching any of those three cable news networks, it's 65 plus.

And who is the audience most likely to be negatively affected and possibly die from the coronavirus? That same age group. And so I don't think they've handled it correctly at all. And I don't think necessarily we've communicated with young people who get their news from streaming or maybe Snapchat Discover or maybe even TikTok, and they're the ones going in Austin and having Beach Day or whatever is swim day. and ignoring all the restrictions. And so you've got to know how to communicate with each demographic, and I don't think anybody's done a good job of that right now.

Mark Cuban, joining us, owner of the Mavericks, busy guy, entrepreneur, and investor joining us here in the herd. When, for instance, density, like New York City, Italy, 60 million people's size of Michigan, a little larger, clearly population density is an issue. Does that mean to you that if we can get the large metros under control, for your league, you have some large metros and you also have, you know, you have Oklahoma City. Do you see this? Is that an advantage, a disadvantage? Will that be considered? Is it possible the NBA would play in seven or eight cities with less population density? I have no idea, Colin, to be honest. I think if I had to guess, I would guess that we do it with no fans until we're absolutely certain that we can actually. account for the safety of fans.

And obviously, we wouldn't do anything at all until we could account for the safety of players and staff. If we can do it, you know, in an area where, you know, it's almost like, what was that movie, a Dramida strain when I was a kid, where they, you know, or the one where the nuclear power plant went, you know, went haywire where they came in and hozed you down before you can go in and out. We might be in that situation. But you know what?

If that's what we have to do, and I'm not trying to, you know, make light of it. But if that's what we have to do, sports play such an important role in our society right now. And again, this is me just speculating. I'm not doing this at all based on any scientific facts. We're in new territory, and I'm certainly not an expert. So if the experts tell us that if we disinfect everybody doing A, B, and C, and then they go into a confined area, and we can play a game that's then produced and presented, maybe through robotic cameras, who knows, on television and streaming,

my guess is, and this is me speaking, not Adam, that we would do it. Because sports is so important to us right now. We need something to cheer for. We need something to get excited about. We need something to connect with each other in our communities beyond, you know, individualized connections like we're doing now. We want something to root for. And if the MBA can lead the charge, I know that's important to us, and hopefully we can.

Mark Cuban joining us. I, I, the banks appear well capitalized. I don't know. I always worry about banks in this situation. Economically speaking, it is, we've gone through crises before. How concerned are you about the economy going forward? You know, I'm not concerned about the banks so much because the Federal Reserve will make whatever precautions, we'll take whatever precautions and whatever steps are necessary.

They're being very aggressive right now. Obviously, I'm concerned about the economy because, again, we're an uncharted terrorist. Nobody can predict, you know, but what gives me hope and what gives me faith is, you know, what makes the United States different than every other country on the planet is that we're very entrepreneurial. We're very creative. If you look down the list of the top inventions of the past 50 years, you know, it's a checklist for 90% of them being American-based companies.

And so that gives me a lot of hope. And, you know, there'll be a point in time, Colin, when you and I are talking and we look back, whether it's three years or five years, and say, oh, my goodness, look at these amazing companies that were created out of the soot of the coronavirus, because, you know, there are creative people who have a vision for what it might look like or what they wanted to look like on the other side of this that is going to be amazing. And so I have a lot of hope, you know, I think, you know, we will come out of it. I just don't know when or what it will look like. You know, with challenges and obstacles come opportunity. Nobody knows that more.

than you. I have argued for a long time and legalized sports gambling benefits football, probably in America more than other sports. We all grew up kind of betting football. If this creates an opportunity to start the NBA season in Christmas and then own June, July, and perhaps early August, would you be for that if this? Oh, yeah. You would. Oh, are you kidding me? I've been, you know, when David Stern, rest in peace, David, we miss you. and it would have been incredible to watch David in action and all this. When David Stern was commissioner, when I got into the league, I mean, I was like, why are we doing this? No one wants, you know, football dominates prior to Christmas.

Why don't we start Christmas Day and then go into the summer? And the answer was right. You know, historically, the number of homes that are watching television during the summer declined significantly. But now with cord cutting, we're in a day. different universe. Now with the Corona world, we're in a different universe. And so depending on how long this goes and what happens and when we come back, if we come back, you know, the viewership habits will be completely different. That creates opportunity for us to take chances and try different things. In my perfect world, the NBA effectively is year-round. You know, maybe we're playing

quote-unquote summer league in August or September in October and then going right in to the start of the season. And maybe now since the Olympics is postponed, and who knows what's going on with Feebuff with international basketball, we take this opportunity to create our own version of the World Cup that the NBA and the NBA players own that we have the broadcast rights to, and we limit the Olympics to players 21 years and under because we're going to need new sources of revenue globally

that help to compensate for whatever losses we have here, and there will be losses. Many have suggested I'm one. I would love to see you go into public service. I think you have an interesting balance of business savvy and humanity. Mark, this has obviously been a moment. My wife doesn't listen to my show. I'm not sure she knows what I do for a living.

She asked me if Mark Kuhman had been on yet. And she said, then and only then will I listen to your show. Has this inspired you at some level beyond being wealthy and an NBA fan to make a difference in our lives? this two, three-week stretch, you have been empowering so many people and holding people accountable. How has it landed for you? Is it perhaps changing you? Yeah, you know, and I appreciate that, Colin. And let me just say, thanks to your wife and my kids and my family won't watch Shark Tank, so I don't feel bad.

But yeah, it is. You know, I've always had a saying that you don't have to be the leader to be a leader. And I just happened to be in a unique position with unique circumstances. I mean, it was just happenstance that the Mavs were the last game when the season shut down. It's just happenstance that, you know, ESPN asked me to do the interview, and it came, you know, and I had been thinking to support our employees and continue to pay them, and I happened to mention it. And that just kind of acted as a catalyst for everything that's happened since then.

And I'm in a unique position where I don't have to worry about my next dollar. You know, I don't, you know, I'm not quarantined in the same apartment that I would have gone nuts in had this happened when I was 21 or 22. And so, you know, I have a voice. I have a platform. I can speak out. I don't care what others think or say, you know, and so I just try to do the right thing now. And, you know, I don't know if it's made me want to run for public office more because my family's still against it, but it's made me realize that I can't help, I can't influence, I can call out bad actors. I can support good actors. I can help small businesses because my years of experience there. And why wouldn't I do it? And so I've made the effort to be a lot more visible and be a lot more

vocal. Mark Cuban joining us. I know he has limited time, but I do think you're a voice and somebody, I believe you have the best interests going forward as somebody who's made a lot of money in corporate America. There is a sense in America. You know, the corporations will go to the corporate. They won't help the restaurateur. Do you ever, because I tend to be a financial moderate where I believe in some regulations, but not over-regulated. But in times like this, if you look back, there are times where people, there are a lot of bad actors, Mark, are you concerned that will pump in, this could become a political story, three to four months of massive Fed money, and it goes, unfortunately, to two few people who don't have your... means. Yes, I am. You know, there's an old saying that QE is basic income for rich people, quantitative easing, and, you know, it acts as a put on the stock market. Now, you know,

we're dealing with 100% uncertain information, so any decisions are going to be wrong for a lot of people. You know, imperfect information leads to imperfect decisions. We're kind of in a ready-fire aim as opposed to ready-eim fire mode. And so, yes, I'm concerned about that. I've been very vocal about the fact that if a company like Boeing, as an example who I think has become a bad actor in a lot of ways, is going to take government money, then we need to do a Warren Buffett deal. When Warren Buffett gave $5 billion to Bank of America to help support them and effectively bail them out, not only did he get equity, but he got warrants. And when Warren Buffett sold those warrants five years later, he's invested $5 billion, ended up with $17 billion.

dollars why can't the government make the exact same kind of deal and the boeing ceo when he was asked about this said well you know what if the government wants equity from us then we'll just go to other sources of of capital and we'll work with them well guess what boeing go work with them right kiss the task you know you don't you we need to negotiate as if you know someone smart was at the negotiating table and i will say this um i've been dealing with some folks in the treasury Department and what Secretary Mnuchin is doing and has said he's going to do in terms of negotiating for some of the bailout funds and asking for equity, asking for warrants and options, I think is good.

So that gives me some hope. But to answer your bigger question, I am concerned. And I've said very publicly that anything that we do for corporate executives that is paid for by taxpayer money, every single employee for that company should get the exact same thing. So, you know, because no company comes back without every employee. in that company busting their ass. And so if there's an executive that gets a million dollars in bonuses and they make a million dollars, that's 100%.

Every other employee in that company should get 100% of bonuses, whether it's equities, whatever it may be, equal to their salary. And you have to do that because the reality is nobody is going to get ahead getting paid by the hour or just getting paid a salary. You have to have equity in something. It's just like our homes. You know, we own equity in our homes, and when they appreciate it, that's really where most of our wealth is across the country.

And for those people who don't have homes or just working by the hour basic salary, we need to give them equity in these companies because that's the only way we're going to close the gap so that an individual getting paid by the hour, if they have stock in the company, stock in their 401K, they get to benefit as much as the CEO, and that's how we close the income equality gap. By the way, Mark, in Los Angeles, Manhattan Beach, you know well. They're closing everything. I'm sitting in my house, a couple of power walks in the neighborhood, but I'm not going anywhere. Just if I could ask a question about Dallas, are they heating warnings?

For the most part, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll go take a walk around the neighborhood and keep our distance, but we're not letting kids come over our house. We're not letting our kids go anywhere. And, you know, fortunately, our kids' school makes them sign in at 8 in the morning and turn in their assignments and those types of things. So that's helped quite a bit as well. Mark, thank you for talking to our audience and for sharing time with this.

You're incredibly busy. You're always thoughtful. And thank you so much. Thank you, Colin. Have me on anytime. All right. Appreciate everybody. Mark Cuban.

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