The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for May 21, 2020

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

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is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we are. It is Los Angeles. This is the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. We're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio. We'll be on FS1 in 15 minutes. First 10 minutes we're on FS2. It's a NASCAR bump thing, and Joy Taylor is joining me. Joy, I have to start the show with this. I'm driving to work. I wake up this morning after another terrifying nightmare. Yeah, I saw on Twitter you had some bad dreams. I just thought about this.

I have never in my life gone to bed and had a dream that ends well. I'm not, not, I'm either running from pirates, getting swallowed whole by snakes, I'm falling off a cliff, my teeth fall out, I'm being attacked by strangers. I have never once had a dream. Or like, I get a knock at the door, knock, knock, knock. Hi, I'm your neighbor. I just made you some ChiliCon. Carney. Really? Yeah, just enjoy it. And it was delicious. You never had a good dream.

I've never had a dream that ended well with a, with like, again, somebody walks up to me and says, I went to Home Depot, they had wrenches on sale, here's a wrench, random guy. Not one time. Ever had a good dream. I've had, I've had dreams I don't remember. I've had, but I've never had a dream end well. Have you? Uh, yeah, I've had good dreams before. Really? It's happy. Rainbows. You land safely, long, you know, cross the world. global flight. Sure. Really?

Everything to me is over. I mean, most dreams are like weird or bad dreams. It's exhausting. I have good dreams before. I am exhausted last night. Yeah, I should. Maybe some meditation or something. It's just exhausting.

Something you're eating before bed. I mean, it's like I am, I am, uh, what was that guy that was, uh, Indiana Jones? I'm Indiana Jones every dream. I'm running from people, running from giant boulders. The teeth falling out thing seems stressful. That would trust me out. Okay. I'm just tired.

All right, but I've got the energy for the show today. And here's the show. Jay Glazer reports yesterday. He's got inside sources and stuff that Tayson Hill will be the guy after Drew Brees. It's official. He's going to be the starting quarterback. Let Teddy Bridgewater go. Taysam Hill is the guy.

For me, I've grown up watching football. He doesn't look like a franchise quarterback. He's really athletic. And five years ago, I would have said no. But I was thinking about this this morning. The world's changed. If you would have told me 10 years ago, hey, listen, you're going to just get into strangers' cars and they're going to take you places. What?

Yeah, and sometimes they'll go to restaurants, grab food and bring it home. Who? Friends? No, strangers. Total strangers. I don't know them. Nope. It's going to be called Uber.

In fact, you'll let your teenage daughter jump into a car and go to a friend's house. You know, as long as she's with a friend. My teenagers? Yeah, they'll just get into a stranger's car. And that's the reality. That's a real economy. It's changed transportation in America. It literally has changed transportation.

DUIs have gone down because of Uber. Parking garages are dying because of Uber. Kids don't want to drive cars anymore because of Uber. If I'd have told you five years ago, maybe three, Joe Rogan will sign a contract and make more money doing a podcast than 99% of all radio people make annually, except Rush Limbaugh. I mean, someday I could just stay home? No makeup.

No long drive. Makes a radio guy think. Joe Rogan now makes more than all the radio people just doing a podcast in his underwear at home. Never has to leave. Hang out with his kids. Kids give me two hours ago to do a podcast. That's the reality.

People are getting rich, rich, because they have a nice podcast. Joe does a great job. If I'd have told you seven years ago, yeah, people, they're just going to release movies to your house. What about the theater? Oh, nobody goes to the theater anymore. If I thought I told you that six years ago, five years ago. 73% of people now say they prefer watching movies at home. They don't want to go to the theater.

Maybe it's safety? Who knows? You ever gone to a theater, sat in those seats and thought, if somebody walked in here, there's only one exit I have. I'm sure others have. But that's the reality is people would rather not pay $13 for. a popcorn and $22 for us and then sit into an area where there's no real emergency exit you think you could get to these are all true now and they weren't five and six years ago in 2020 i look at tasem hill and i think Sean Peyton's his coach got a great GM you know Brady

and matt Ryan and teddy bridgewater in his division one of those guys is going to be out of football soon I think he's a gadget guy but the world's changed why not why not the winners in life adapt, the losers going forward are stubborn and rigid. Maybe this is the future of the NFL. You get your best athlete. Taysam Hill's an unbelievable athlete. I mean, he is, he can catch, he can run, he can block. You just put your best athlete at quarterback and you figure it out later. By the way, there's Taysam Hills all over the country in high school right now. They're not as good a thrower as another kid on the roster, but they just make more plays and the coach designs an offense. And I mean, Lamar Jackson, I watched him and I thought, boy, he's a project. I think it's going to work.

I said it on the show, but a year later, he's the MVP. There are Taysam Hills all over high school football. Increasingly, you're seeing a few in college. I never even thought Jalen Hertz four years ago was an NFL prospect. I'm serious. I looked at him and I thought that he's a good college player. He got drafted in the second round, and my takeaway is he'll play this year. So now, there are questions about him.

Nick Wright this morning, first thing first, brings up a couple of interesting points. I am doubting everyone within the Saints that thinks this is viable or a plausible option. Some facts about Taysom Hill. When the next NFL season starts, he'll be 30 years old. He will go into his age 30 season with his career high for past completions in a game being at one. He's literally never completed more than one pass in any game, and he's only completed seven passes, including the playoffs in his career. So let me address the age thing. 30 is the new 26.

Nutritional standards, trainers. I mean, I'm 55. I can run a 615 mile. Why, I eat better. I work out. There's better machines to work out on. There's better trainers out there. We're all younger.

People look younger. People are more active. People are moving around. Vegan is not just a come and go thing. It's a here to stay thing. People eat longer, they live longer, they look better. If you're willing, not everybody, we have 36% obesity, but if you're willing to embrace good eating, you're going to live longer. Tom Brady, I swear to God, he's got a medicine somewhere.

He looks younger now that he did seven years ago. We joke about it. He looks younger today. Why he's married to a supermodel. They probably have great skincare products. They eat really well. It's the reality of it. They stay mostly out of the sun or he didn't easier to do in Boston than Tampa.

Let me talk about the passes thing. Well, he's got no passes. Yeah, either did Lamar Jackson when he won a bunch of games and got to the playoffs. No rookie quarterbacks have passes in the NFL until they get into the NFL. I know Taysam Hill can pass because Sean Patent is coach, and Sean Peyton likes him, and he sees him pass in practice. I don't need a guy to have a bunch of passes. How many passes did Jimmy Garoppolo have in the NFL before he made $25 million a year?

Josh Allen didn't have any passes in the NFL either. Last year, he got to the playoffs. Year before that, I watched him at Wyoming. He looked awful. I saw him play Iowa and Oregon. He looked awful. Year later, he's throwing passes in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, so, you know, my takeaway is

Lamar Jackson came into this league with passing questions. He's the MVP. I just look at the world today, and I'm like, I don't say no to anything. I just don't say no to anything. I am open for business. I have no idea what's happening. I mean, when I first started in this business,

and not to date myself, but I used to get, I was on AM radio, and Joey knows this. So every month you waited for the ratings from AM radio. And then sports radio went to FM. So I was on AM and FM. Ooh! And then it was serious XM.

Ooh, it got three platforms to crush. And then they started doing simulcasts. And then there's this thing called digital. and then there's podcasting. And then now we have a YouTube channel. And last year I got 330 million views on Facebook. I now have a sheet with nine different platforms I'm on. And we can monetize all of them.

Some way better than others. That's my world. It's just platform developed. Platform dies. Platform develops. Platform dies. New York Times used to read it. Right?

You'll hold the ink in your hands. Now they make all their money on digital. You read it online. I read the New York Times in the Wall Street Journal. I read them online. Why would I want the newspaper in my house? I've told the story before. I used to read news.

I was a newspaper guy. I just read them all day long. I loved newspapers. I lived in Portland, Oregon. And all of a sudden, one day, there was an ice storm. And I went out to look for my newspaper. And I'm like, I couldn't find the newspaper. You know how somebody would throw it out of their car?

And I look out. Oh, it's in the bush. And it was stuck in a bush. In an ice storm. And I went over and I got scissors and I slipped and almost jab my eye out. And I cut it out. And that day I said, I'm not going to subscribe to a newspaper. It was the Oregonian.

It was a fine newspaper. Still is. And I said, I'm just done with it. I just can read stuff online. And so Tassam Hill, I look at it and I think five years ago, I'm not even sure he's on the roster. And today I'm like, Sean Payton likes him. The hell do I know?

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I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down. and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really, yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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Michael Jordan's made a thousand times more money on his shoes than his contracts. And I would do the same thing. It's a branding war. It's Coke versus Pepsi. Jordan and LeBron is Coke versus Pepsi. They're both incredibly aware of each other's brand going forward. Because as Jordan has proved, it pays you 20 years after you retire. So I don't think it's a coincidence that once the Jordan documentary started,

LeBron had opinions on it. Hey, hey, hey, I'm watching it too. The minute it ended, LeBron went out with four or five big, strong opinions. My dream team would have beaten his team. My redeemed team would have beaten his dream team. I would have been a great teammate of Michael Jordan. I don't think it's a coincidence. I read this story a couple days ago that LeBron just happened to talk about it.

Just all the years LeBron's been playing. Story just happened to come out that LeBron in 2011 was offered a cowboy contract. So funny that never came out until the Jordan documentary talking about his baseball career. Folks, I was born at night, not last night. What's the old saying? Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. You think LeBron just buried this story for nine years? It comes out after the Jordan documentary.

LeBron is very calculated and very smart, and I know his handlers and so are they. By the way, the only reason MJ did this doc, he agreed to it the day LeBron was hoisting the trophy in a Cleveland Cavalier parade in Ohio. That's why I think the last dance will now face the last chance. This is LeBron's last year to win it. The salary cap is going down because of revenues dropping. It's a bad free agency class this year and there's no money for it. and the Lakers have shown no interest paying a big luxury tax. It is not a good draft.

There's no help on the horizon. Anthony Davis isn't even going to make nearly as much as he thought. This is an old roster. The Clippers are a young roster, and they're young and old, and the clippers are getting better and better and better. The clippers are only going to get better over time because they have all these young players and all these moving parts. The Lakers are an old roster.

This is their last shot. That's why this year is so important. We talk last dance. This is last chance. This is just a branding war. This is not like the NFL. There is no. Tom Brady's revenue on his brand is peanuts.

Peanuts compared to the seventh best NBA shoe deal. Hardin, Westbrook, whatever it is. Michael Jordan is making $145 million a year, 20 years after he played. LeBron James will make not that much, but hundreds of millions of dollars 10 years after he's played. This is why it's so important to keep your name relevant,

to make sure you stay in a slot. Nobody will ever surpass Jordan. But Jordan felt a little heat when LeBron won in Cleveland, and Jordan's like, okay, I'll do the documentary. And Jordan feeling, my LeBron feeling a little heat

when LeBron's the most talked about because of a pandemic and there's no games and six million people are watching it. And he's like, you know, I was offered a conference. by the Cowboys. None of this stuff is a coincidence. It's a branding war.

It's Coke versus Pepsi. Just with faces we know, not big monolithic brands. I'm here for it, by the way. I want to see the NBA. I think we'll get the NBA across my fingers. And I think the Lakers have a shot to win it, although I'll take the Clippers first, Lakers, second, bucks, third, Celtics, fourth.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Some companies do certain things really well. Like Starbucks does coffee really well. They do atmosphere really well. The decor, the atmosphere, it kind of makes you feel like an intellectual. You go and you drink and you think, I feel like I'm a sophisticate. I've just smarter being here.

They have whiffed on a million things. They tried ice cream. Stores of the middleman took the profits away. It wasn't very good. They tried a blender. They had a blender. That didn't work. They had a magazine that was a deal.

disaster. They tried a chantico. It was a chocolate drink, liquid chocolate. It was like drinking a truffle. It was awful. They couldn't figure their food out for 20 years. Their food was a mess. And they finally about 10 years ago found a bakery in Los Angeles now and it works. They failed at a lot of stuff. I mean, at one point, they did a coffee brewer, which made no sense because that would keep people home out of your stores. They're like, let's create something that keeps people home. No, you want them to go to your stores. It was cheap and it bombed. They bombed on a lot of stuff. But they do the coffee thing well, and they do ambience really well. They really have figured out. That's their thing. And, you know, they want to be global and they want to be smart and

they want to fend off competitors. So they keep trying to create stuff. And it's mostly just bombs. And the Dallas Cowboys do offense really well. When Jason Garrett was there, Tony Romo. They draft offense well. I mean, God, they hit on every offensive lineman. They got Ezekiel Elliott. They're good at free agents. Amari Cooper. They bring Jason Witten back. This organization for 15 years to me has done offense really well. Part of it, I think, is Jerry Jones. It's the glitz. It's the glamour.

He understands offense. Guys like me in talk shows talk about offensive stars, not interior tackles. So he gets it. Jerry likes the brand building of the Cowboys. They go get C.D. Lamb in the first round. They needed a corner. They needed a defensive tackle. They needed a safety.

They needed a new center. They went and drafted a wide receiver. And I'm sure Cedie Lamb will do fine. The last thing they needed was another. thousand-yard receiver. They had two of those, both in their prime. They didn't need another receiver, but they went and got a receiver. And so I haven't given this Alden Smith story any airtime. Alden Smith is back in the NFL. And I look at it and I roll my eyes and I think, this is what the Cowboys don't do well. Defense. It's always a Hail Mary. Greg Hardy,

2015. Hale Mary. Randy Gregory, they were warned by smart people not to draft him. They drafted him. Smith, out of the league for years, suspensions, you know, criminal past. This is their savior. Dallas doesn't do defense great. I don't think they have, you know, they went out and got Rod Marinelli and Mike Nolan. Those are older defensive coaches, old school guys. There's all sorts of young, innovative defensive coaches out there. It's just not what they do.

And so I haven't given this story a lot of credibility. I don't think Dallas does defense particularly well. I think New England does. I think there's organization. I don't think New England does offense nearly as well. And I think you're going to see that now with Tom Brady gone. But when I look at this story, it just kind of feels like a Hail Mary for Dallas. And, you know, I mean, they, they, I mean, it's not like they, they've whiffed on everybody.

I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is a really nice player, but they let Byron Jones go. And, you know, I like, I like Van der Wesch, but he got hurt and Jalen Smith got hurt in college. And I think he's going to be a star if he can say healthy. But when I look at Dallas and I look at. at football, I would say this. I do think offense is the future and Dallas as good at it. I mean, they found Dak Prescott in the fourth round. There's another, there's another draft pick. Their offensive line had like four pro bowlers. They, they don't miss a lot on offense. I mean, did you watch their wider, was it Michael Gallup? Did you watch him in college?

I mean, I love college football. I saw him in one game in college for about a quarter. I never watched him. He's a good player. So they figured out the offensive part. And maybe that's just You know, for years, it's funny how it works in the NFL. Some of these companies, they just have strengths. Some of these programs, they just get certain positions right. And maybe it's a scout. Maybe it's a coach. You know, I'll give you an example, what New England doesn't get right.

So I saw this. Pro Football Focus ranked every NFL receiving corps heading into this year. New England's 30th. They can't figure it out. Bill Belichick cannot draft a wide receiver to save his life. Can't do it. It's been 15 years. Gronks their last Pro Bowl are at tight end or wide receiver.

And by the way, where's Dallas on this list? Third. That's not even counting their offensive line. That's not counting Zeke. They have the third best receiving core in the NFL. So congratulations. You're really good at that. But that's, you know, I don't think, when I look at Dallas,

I just, I kind of see a hole in the company, is that I don't think they're innovative defensively. I don't think they put a lot of time into hiring the coaches defensively. I don't think they drafted generally that exceptionally well. They let, they have good defensive players and they let them go. And so, like, Alden Smith, it's like, to me, it's like, okay, here's another, this is another Hail Mary. They were warned not to draft Randy Gregory from people that knew him. It's like there's going to be problems. He's going to underachieve.

I don't know Randy Gregory, but people were warned. And, you know, there was the Greg Hardy thing, and that was kind of a Hail Mary. And you kind of, you know, you reap what you sow. What you care about in life is what you'll be good at. Like if you want to go to all your daughter's recitals or son's recitals and you're the super parent, you'll be great at that. If you're into your career, you'll be great at that. We all make choices on stuff.

Dallas loves offense, drafts it, finds it, accumulates it. They find coaches to elevate it. They're very good at that. I like him. That part of it, they're good. Just can't stop anybody. I mean, they just struggle with that. One more herd?

The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. I had a very terrorizing night of nightmares last night. And I've talked in great detail today about, to start my show, about none of my dreams ever end well. You know, quarantine dreams are a thing too now. What's that mean?

Like everyone is having really crazy elaborate dreams. I read up on it, apparently it's because we're not doing our normal routine. Most of us aren't. So our brains are kind of trying to fill it that space that we would normally be using. I mean, I have, yeah. They've lessened over the past couple weeks, I think, because my body's just adjusting to a different environment. But, yeah. I was chased by pirates last night.

Never had one positive dream my whole life. Seriously. Your scary dreams are so hilarious. No, giant snakes swallowing me home. Like Johnny Depp pirates or real ones? No, like me, like guys on boats. I'm on a boat. Like modern day pirates?

Yeah, like I'm on a boat in the Caribbean and guys jump on the boat. Oh, okay. So like real pirates. Like the Tom Hanks movie. Oh, okay. That's a little scarier. That's probably the more rational explanation. You just put yourself in a Tom Hanks movie.

Yes, exactly. So I got two things I want to talk about here. Okay. I don't want to waste your time. So we just talked about this with Dallas Cowboys. offense is the future of the league. The rules, the regulations. I've talked to people actually in front offices about this.

And we talk about this, and they agree with me, that if you are sitting there in a draft room, I've talked to three different GMs in this. If you're sitting in a draft room and you've got two players, just draft the offensive guy. He has a much greater chance. I mean, literally, slot receivers control games more than Khalil Mack. J.J.J. Watt.

J. J. J. Avian Clowning. slot receiver guy from, you know, Panera-bred State. I mean, that's what the league is because the rules have all changed it. And leagues become what the rules allow them to be. The NBA is now a Shooter's League with no centers. Why? There's no physical play. You can't hand check.

You can't lean on guys. It's a Shooter's League. The NFL now, once they said the non-catch is a catch, you can't touch the quarterback, the wide receiver. It's an offensive league. And I do think it's affecting coaches. And this is why I do not buy into New England this year. I'll give an example.

You know how I think about Belichick. I think Belichick's in trouble. The three best defensive coaches in the NFL are Belichick, Tomlin, and Pete Carroll. Belichick last 10 years can't draft offense. He's very average at it. He struggles with that side of the football and personnel. Pete Carroll runs a 1980s offense. It's inflexible.

It's not creative. And Russell Wilson basically has to save his arse every week. And Mike Tomlin doesn't win enough big games. Lack of attention to detail. Yet the older veteran offensive coaches in this league, Andy Reid, just won a Super Bowl, and is absolutely flourishing. He's got a great eye for offensive personnel, a great eye for offensive coordinators, and an unbelievable ability to design plays.

And Sean Payton, it's an advantage for the Saints and the Chiefs going forward. It's an offensive league. And New England thinks, oh, it's our system. Pro football focus has the New England Patriots receiving corps at 30. and you think Jared Stiddam is going to elevate him, Tom Brady could not elevate him. That's why Belichick wanted Brady back. They got no players.

They got no tight ends. They got no wide receivers. And I'll tell you this. We think about Belichick as a legend, and I love him. But if he thinks system is going to win in this league, he's out of his mind. Bobby Knight was every bit as big as Belichick 20 years ago. College basketball was much bigger, and Bobby was the Belichick or bigger. I mean, he was going on late night.

Talk shows. Bobby, I ran a high school offense from Bobby Knight. I didn't run a high school football defense from Belichick or any defensive coach. That's how big Bobby Knight was. He created the motion offense. We all ran it in high school. Bobby Knight believed his system mattered more than talent. And he disappeared.

He stopped recruiting. Greg Popovich wasn't as big as Belichick because the NFL is bigger than the NBA, but Popovich for 15 years, the system. the system. And then he started believing the system was bigger than Kauai Leonard. And the spurs are not relevant. They're not as relevant as the Utah Jazz today. I'm not sure this year they're as relevant as the OKC Thunder in a rebuilding year.

They're just not. Belichick's system is not going to win games. Didn't win any games in Cleveland. It didn't win any games in Cleveland. Where's the great system? It didn't win his first year and a half in New England. You think, you think Jarrett's. Stidim is going to, this is what killed Bobby Knight, this is what crushed Greg Popovich,

when you start believing your system is so dynamic, so unbelievable. I don't need a quarterback. Brock Heward, a former college and NFL quarterback, we talked about Jared Stidim. He called his games. He watched him. And I, if he's so great, why did Belichick want to boot Brady for Garoppolo and yet wanted Brady instead of Stidim? an older Brady, a less dynamic Brady. Brock Keyward, I asked him, you saw Jared Stidman College?

You saw him. What did you think? The one concern I always have, fair or unfair, biased or not, is just a sense of urgency out of some of those southern quarterbacks, man. Is there just that sense of urgency? Like, I'm going to take this thing over. This is my team. Now, he has the one head coach that will light that urgency flame every single day, every practice did with Tom for two decades.

certainly has cranked it up on Jared and must feel like he's got that, that toughness to him. But I would agree with you as far as the raw goods go, I don't think even comparing him to Jimmy Garapolo in all of those areas, arm, athleticism, size. Yeah, I don't think he checks as many boxes as Jimmy does. So yesterday, let's shift to diss and Dak. So we did a game because Dak Prescott got yesterday, his agent, they want $35 million a year. That's the Russell Wilson contract. He's not close to Russell Wilson. He's not as good an athlete.

He doesn't have the arm. I mean, there are some stats. I saw a stat yesterday that said, you know, he is the best deep ball passer Dak Prescott in the NFL. All right. Dig a little deeper on the DAC stats. Here's a stat on DAC. He's the second quarterback in the last 15 years to throw 30 touchdowns

and have zero game-winning drives. Dak kicked the living you-know-what last year out of the Redskins and Giants. He had almost half his touchdown passes against those guys. In his career, he's 13 and 3 against the Giants and the Redskins, who have both been rebuilding his entire career in Dallas. DAC is also 0-8 last year trailing at half. He doesn't have the ability when teams know he's going to throw to lead him back. He's good with a running game.

He's good with a lead. He's good on play action. DAC is Kirk Cousins. Nobody likes Kirk Cousins. But Kirk Cousins is way cheaper now than when we're going to. what DAC wants to get paid. What's the difference? They both have excellent, excellent supporting cast talent offensively. They both have big stats, but when you deep dive on both their stats, they're great against bad teams and not very good against good teams. And quarterbacks are

defined in this league, not against Cleveland, but against the Ravens. The difference now between Dak and Kirk Cousins, Kirk's actually more accurate and Kirk is willing to take a moderate pay change. Once DAC says, I want $35 million, my criticism gets much harsher. DAC at $29 million got your back. Dak at 35, $45 at the end? No thank you. He wins in the regular season. Andy Dalton has a winning regular season record.

In a salary cap league, highly compensated quarterbacks don't win. Brady takes pay cuts. Drew Breeze takes pay cuts. This is the way it works. The minute you pay your quarterback a lot of money, big trouble. It doesn't work. You can't fill the spots. So when people say you're harsh on deck,

I was a much bigger fan of DAC, until the money changed. He wants a Russell-Wilson contract. He's not Russell Wilson. He has made a living. I mean, four years, one playoff win. Isn't the knock on Kirk Cousins, who nobody likes, right?

Everybody's always banging on Kirk Cousins. You know, he's good, but he never wins the games against the good teams. That's become DAC. I want to see DAC in week three at Seattle. I want to see DAC in week 13 at Baltimore. I want to see DAC against the 49ers defense. Because the PFF today says the Cowboys have the third best wide receiving corps.

Receiving core. I didn't think the receiving corps is nearly as good as they're running back or their own line. The receiving corps is top three. So it's not that I'm anti-Dak. But once you're now demanding Russell Wilson money, everything changes. It's just like my kids. I don't get mad at my kids' mom. But if their demands are, I want $500 a month allowance, we got a problem.

If you want $5 a week allowance, $25. But you're asking for this, then dad's got a problem with it. The bigger you're ask, you have to be so exceptional in pro sports or my criticism ramps up. So when I look at the numbers, I look at Dak, I see Kirk Cousins. But Kirk now, he does not have a prohibitive contract. Jimmy Garoppolo no longer has a prohibitive contract. When you're making close to 28, other guy asked for 35. At the end, you want 45.

Of course my criticism goes up. What we bang on cousins for is what Dax become. Trails at half, game over. Against the good teams, forget it. Beats up on the Giants and Redskins. In fact, I saw a stat here. I want to make this. Last year, half his touchdown passes, Dax.

14 to 30 were against the Giants and Redskins. I mean, come on. on. That's the knock on cousins. He's great against the lions. He's great. You know, so, you know, when I picked, and I said yesterday, I picked cousins over him. It wasn't like a, I had paused. It was like, but I start thinking about cousins. He's more accurate. And he's taken a little bit of a, he's renegotiated his deal. You got to think about everything now. I got to, and so, you know, there's the numbers for you right there on the graph for the, for the radio audience. They don't hear it, but put those numbers up so I can read these again, if you could.

I mean, just look at the numbers. Dak last year against playoff teams is one and six. He's seven and two against the garbage teams. He's eight touchdowns, eight picks against good teams, 22 touchdowns, three picks against the garbage teams. What do you want? If I did a blind resume, you'd say that's Kirk Cousins. So if I'm going to be hard on Kirk Cousins,

and by the way, I blistered Kirk Cousins for two years when he was making like 28 and 28 men something. Now 28's a break. If you could have a starting quarterback at 28, And Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, you know, you get into that kind of good, solid, top 15-ish guy. They're good players. They're nice player. Derek Carr's a nice player.

I mean, Kirk Cousin is a nice player. I don't think he's, you know, elite. But that number, to me, on DAC changes everything. It's like, no, no, no, I'll take Andy Dalton. I'll take Andy Dalton's 85% of him. Good old line. I'll save the $30 million. You know, it just changes everything.

Everything does. You know, when you go in to get a, buy a house, buy a car, buy anything. That's a nice looking carpet. Not for $9,000, it's not. $900? It's unbelievable. So I mean, we all have salary caps on our budgets. So to teams.

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All right, let's start with this. Where are you right now this second? I'm finishing up rehab. Look, I'm one of the few, the proud, be enabled to walk into this facility and get rehab from our amazing training staff. and seemingly, you know, still be able to train, lift, and try and get back to top form by season. So, I mean, it sort of ended my offseason quick. I mean, I had a quick surgery on my adductors, a little core surgery.

And then I've been training and rehabbing since. So I almost loved the last dance just because it was like after, you know, Michael Jordan lost in the finals, he went next day into weight to weightlifting. And I feel just like that. I've been lifting weights and trying to get better each and every day since. Now, let me ask you, Cam, you know, you've made some good money in this league. You may have a gym at home. You have opportunities that maybe a rookie does not.

Do you believe you're in the kind of shape? Are your teammates, do you think, in the same kind of shape you are now? Absolutely. I've been in numerous phone calls with all of my teammates, and everybody's training however they can get it. Whether that be, you know, finding some remote piece of grass that they can tear up, or, you know, they have their own backyard. Everybody's getting it with the same mentality that we've got to strive and push ourselves farther than we did the year before.

So a story came out yesterday that Taysom Hill is your guy. And I said to start my show today is five years ago, I look at Taysam Hill and I think, I don't know if that's an NFL quarterback. But now I watch guys like Josh Allen and Lamar, guys running around. And I look and I think, well, why not? I mean, guys run around all the time now. It's almost like you have to run. You've seen a lot of Taysom Hill.

I worry about he gets hit. He runs around. Do you worry all if he's the guy eventually? He puts himself in harm's way. I mean, mobile quarterback's definitely been the wave since Mike Vick. It's very rare to catch pocket processors like, you know, the premier Drew Breeze or Tom Brady type. When you think about mobile quarterbacks, you've had everybody out there from, you know, again, Mike Vick, Alex Smith, that was mobile in pocket. you know, Russell Wilson,

the Cam Newton was the biggest one, MVP type. Mahomes, Lamar, and Lamar is different. I don't know if I've seen a quarterback with his speed since rookie RG3. Yeah, I think he's faster than RG3, actually. In a straight line. Yeah.

When I'm talking about rolling out, taking cuts, and then, you know, coming around the corner, I don't think there's anybody going as fast as Lamar and RG3. But taste them for sure. straight line downhill when he's covering a kickoff, he can get he can get downright blazing. From everything that, you know, Taysam brings to the table, if the organization says he's the guy, then he's the guy. I don't have to worry about it. We still got Drew. If, you know, if Drew goes down, we have Taysam, who has been dubbed the guy and James Winston, who we all

know can go for 30 touchdowns. By the way, have you talked to James Winston? Have you seen him? I've talked to him previously. I haven't talked to him since he signed with the team. I should probably do diligence and do that. That's probably my fault. I was probably just overly excited knowing that he was coming our way. I was reading for either him to come our way or somehow, you know, Cam Newton. I feel like we're

phenomenal hands of Drew. And if one day Drew decides to step down, then we have the next era parent, which then it's a good battle to have. Yeah. By the way, so Tom Brady is in your division. The second you knew

Tom Brady was in your division. What was your first thought. The second he got into our division, I was like, ooh, the most epic games are happening each, you know, two twice a year now. You've got Tom Brady versus Drew Breeze. And then on Macley, I saw Tampa Brady was in copyrights already. And I was like, that makes sense. They're officially Tompa Brady's. And then he did the Magic Conchelling Gront compared out of nowhere. And I was like, yeah, I understand what they're trying to do here. You know, they've got to go from bottom of the NFC South to, you know, second place of the agency South. That's great for them.

We'll still be here. You watched the Jordan documentary as a professional athlete and a great one. What struck you? What was your takeaway watching it? It was sort of just reaffirmed everything that I knew about Michael Jordan, everything that I, you know, knew who was going into. Once you're part of locker, you understand, you know, when you have alphas in the room, alphas are going to do what they have to do to make sure that everybody's up to

standard. And it seemed like Michael Jordan was whatever the team needed him to be. If they need them to be that villain to push you a little bit further, and I say villain just in practice, antagonizing people, pushing people to their brinks, but also bringing the best out in them. Sometimes that's the leader that you need. And, you know, if anything, it brought me the, it brought me the sound mind that says, hey, you know, it's okay to be that type of a go-getter. You have that mentality is where I've got to push myself, and by pushing myself, I have to push all of my teammates to elevate their game. And then you can have guys, you know, guys like a Scotty Pippen or guys like whoever to

be sort of that resounding character like, hey, this is what we're going to do, you know, to corral morale morale. You know, it's funny, Cam, I'm thinking about this. Basketball coach, you know, the NBA is not a yell at the player league. Football coaches from, I played high school, football is a yell at the player league. Have you been in locker rooms where there is a lot of conflict, where there is guys that yell and lead? Is that normal in the NFL?

Because it feels like Michael's very rare in the NBA where he's dogging teammates. But in the NFL, take me there. Do you see more of that? Of course. I mean, the ongoing joke is, you know, they're not football tough. There's a reason why, you know, every football player thinks he's a basketball player and not every basketball thinks he's a football player. You know, you can't teach size, so that's basketball.

But you can't teach, you know, heart and grit. And just the different everyday atmosphere you're going to be. be in in a locker room is going to be completely different than you are going to be in basketball. But at the same time, you know, competitive spirit is competitive spirit. Yeah. So we got into this discussion yesterday. So Joy Taylor's brother is a Hall of Fame football player. And there was a story that LeBron could play in the NFL.

And I said, time out, time out, time out. LeBron James is not going to block defensive ends. He don't want to get hit in the ribs. I don't want to hear how big and fast he is. I've seen a lot of big fast guys. I mean, I watch UFC fights. the tiniest guys are sometimes unbelievable tough guys. So when I hear basketball guy can play in the NFL, I roll my eyes at it.

Now, Tony Gonzalez did it, but Tony's tough and Tony liked to block. If I say to you, LeBron in the NFL, he lines up right over you, what do you think? What position? When you say right up over me, he must be a tight end. Yes. He's the opposite line. He's done. As a tight end,

Yeah, it's probably over for him. As long as he spaces out and, you know, doesn't catch anything over the middle, maybe he just, you know, is a street guy. If you send him on goes, I think that would be your best bet. Make him a red zone tight end. Just stick them to the end zone so he doesn't catch anything over the middle, so he doesn't have a safety coming downhill. He could possibly have success there.

If you say, hey, you got to go run these posts, you got to go running in, I've got four guys that's going to take out your, you know, going to take out the body that you care so much about. And I don't know if you've been banged out on basketball court, like you're going to get banged up in 16 games in football. Yeah. See, this is what we talked about yesterday. See, this is exactly what I think is.

I don't think basketball players, you know, they bounce off a 6-11 skinny guy, go over the middle once in the NFL. Gronk couldn't stay healthy. Gronk was 265. Couldn't stay healthy. I mean, the league is so brutal. Okay, you're in this Madden NFL virtual tournament tonight. Tell me about it.

Look, it's huge. This Madden tournament is sort of sponsored, and there's going to be a couple different NFL stars in here, and I'm going against, I don't know if I'm allowed to say. Look, I'm going against a kid who clearly has too much time on his hands because he's pretty great at Madden is what I've been told. So I'm overly excited to try and create revenue, to create a platform for us,

to push out our donations into this world, in this time right now what we have going on is opportunities. As we're all sitting down at our home, we're all fixated on how do we go to the next step or how do we push further. And this is an avenue to, you know, create positivity in this world. Cam Jordan Saints, I love talking to you, man. Always appreciate you giving time for us. Good luck on your rehab.

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