The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for May 25, 2020

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

Colin explains why golf needs to be more like The Match with Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, why nobody needs to deal with diva wide receivers anymore, how Michigan's President showed us why Jim Harbaugh is doing a great job, why Tom Brady will easily win the divorce with Bill Belichick., where Colin was right and where Colin was wrong. Plus, Peter King joins the show. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a Memorial Day, The Hurd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Have a safe Memorial Day. I know there are some days mixing together now. We're never quite sure if it's weekend or not. Memorial Day, though, is a great day in American history. Joy Taylor is joining me one hour from now where Colin was right,

where Colin was wrong. Joy, how was your weekend? I actually played golf, motivated by Brady and Mickelson and Tiger and Manning, and motivated by all of it. I went out and played golf for the first time in four years yesterday and had an absolute blast. I had a great weekend. Did you look more like Tiger or more like Brady? I didn't look like Tiger.

He's really good, by the way. He looked great. It was really fun. And I want to start the show with this is that this virus is rough, right? But one of the things it's really illustrating is that people that are adaptable are just going to hit home runs out of this. Rigid guy, brittle guy, get off my lawn guy is not. Yesterday was a great example. And I hope the PGA and the USGA learned a little bit from it.

I know golf guy, you got to move the bifocals down. you pull those pants a little higher, going to hit your chest one of these days. Take a deep breath and follow the NFL. The NFL has acknowledged they stole from the XFL. They steal from college football. The NFL's like, we want a better product. We want to add more personality to our product.

So we didn't like celebrations. And then the NFL went, you know what? We watched the NBA. We watched all the NBA social media. And the NFL's like, we're going to do some celebrations. Oh, ratings went up. NFL's added cameras. NFL steals from college football.

They steal from the XFL. They're not too proud. It's a television show. It's why they dominate the universe. They tell networks what they're going to pay. No, their sport does. Golf should watch that exhibition yesterday and not be ashamed of saying,

wow, there's some cool things there. An occasional golf cart, I get the golfer, television cameras, have him miced. I mean, watching Phil and Tiger in a golf, Golf cart was riveting. Now, the Masters is not going to do it. But for the occasional golf cart experience, put a handful of golfers in golf carts, you get personal.

What yesterday had is what golf doesn't. Personality. Did everybody know Justin Thomas was this funny? I didn't. It took a golf exhibition with football players to discover that Justin Thomas is really, really funny. We knew Mickelson was funny. We knew Tiger was intense.

But golf has a history of being entitled. and stodgy and tradition and stuffy. And one of the greatest golf ratings of our lives? When Tiger Woods exploded, he was new, he was different, he threw an occasional club, he swore, he looked like a football player. America said, hey, we like personality here. And golf was like, whoa, he threw a club. Everybody I know is thrown a golf club.

It's okay, nobody dies. You'd prefer they don't do it at the Masters. but golf exploded with Tiger Woods because Tiger was different. He was more intense. He looked like Ed Reed. He was all jacked up. And he had this torque and he was coming out of his shoes and he was bombing at 350. And everybody's like, you know, the other guy I love watching is Dustin Johnson.

Totally flawed. Some baggage, a little unhinged, sorts of unravels on the golf course a couple times a year. I love watching him play. We all unravel on a golf course. It's called personality. We're all human. I hope that the golf gods and the people who run the sport do what the NFL does. Borrow.

Mike players. Mike an occasional caddy. Ask the players during around on a Friday or a Saturday. I'm not talking you have to do this down the stretch on a Sunday, but on a Friday, a Saturday, early Sunday. Hey, Justin, ninth hole, what are you using? Explain it. These guys are so good.

Tiger and Phil Mickelson are, The guys, I've said, I've argued this before. To make the PGA tour is the most professional athlete in the world. You don't have teammates. You have to pay for everything yourself. You have a bad back nine on Thursday. You're not even allowed to golf on the weekend. You didn't make the cut.

There are certain tournaments where the field is so loaded if you have back-to-back bad holes and they're trying to make these courses tough. If you have back-to-bad bad holes, I'm not talking a snowman and eight. I'm talking a double bogey, a double bogey. You're out of the tournament and you're paying your own way home. And everybody wants to golf, right? It's funny. You drive by golf.

Everybody wants to every old guy wants to be a golfer, right? To be able to make the tour and stay on the tour and succeed on the tour is unbelievable. These guys are fun. They're smart. They're not going to be bothered by the occasional question from a golf commentator. You know, whoever's up in the booth. Hey, let's go to Justin Thomas twice today. I thought there were so many great examples.

I'm watching my friends in their businesses right now dealing with this virus. I mean, I mean, just the smartest people are figuring out. I have a buddy who runs a pro sports team. Tom Penn runs L-A-FC. Everybody's freaking out about wearing masks. He's like, no. A month and a half ago, he's. He started a new business, and he's creating masks with logos for all the teams,

and he's selling them to NFL teams and NBA teams. And folks, you can be rigid, or you can adapt and find new businesses. I have friends in the restaurant business. Everybody's like, oh, the restaurant business. He's doing takeout now. He told me the other day, he goes, I think I found a new revenue stream. We've been forced to do takeout really well. When we come back, I am now going to have two revenue streams in the restaurant, out of it.

we've been forced to figure out at a high rate how now to do to go orders or delivery items. So like you can be rigid in this stuff, but I thought yesterday was a great example of a bunch of people coming together and say, okay, let's get these two great golfers, these two football players, let's get Charles Barkley. And by the way, it was a tsunami. The weather didn't cooperate. Tom Brady split his pants. The mic stopped working a couple times and everybody pulled it off. and it was just people adapting.

And I sat there for five hours and watched it. I thought it was unbelievable. I thought it was just fantastic. You know, they didn't get a sink. The only thing that could have been worse is an alligator comes out there and eats Brady. I mean, they had basically a tsunami for the first hour and a half of it. And they pulled it off. Great, great stuff.

All right. So I saw this story. You know, there's no reason today to really have to buy the album or the CD. You can go to Apple Music, you can go to Amazon Music, pay $7 a month, and get all of it. That's it. Sometimes the marketplace changes, and it should change your consumption to save money. So I saw this story. According to a report, Russell Wilson would love to add Antonio Brown.

Antonio Brown is the beyond high-maintenance wide receiver. Now, in my entire life of the NFL, there's been this thing called Divvents. wide receiver and they've had remarkable power. You know, you just deal with headaches because the guys are so special. Here's the problem. The diva wide receiver has become the hockey enforcer in 2020. You don't need them. Everybody used to have a hockey enforcer, a tough guy who really couldn't skate,

wasn't fast. You can't. Hockey's too fast. It's too skilled. You can't have a slow guy that all he can do is throw haymakers. The hockey enforcer is done. the sport is too fast, the sport is too skilled. He's like 1988.

It's over for the hockey enforcer. He's got to be skilled. He's got to skate fat. You watch hockey now and hockey 30 years ago. It's like a different sport. It's so fast. And you don't need the diva wide receiver. You know how everybody was saying this year's draft class

was the best wide receiver draft class out of college ever? Until next year. years when they're speculating that next year's wide receiver class will be better than this year's. Why? Let me give you California as an example. I follow recruiting. Joy knows this. I have no life. I'm on recruiting websites all day when I go home. No, seriously, I'm pathetic. The state of California, the entire state of California, 39 million people, has one elite running back in the state. It's got 17 to 27. depending on the star ratings, wide receivers.

It's got multiple quarterbacks over a dozen. Why? Because kids are smart. The money in football is in quarterback play and wide receiver play. Why get hit like running backs and not make the money and your career ends? The state of California has one great high school running back. Like one five star, four star, like everybody wants them running back. One.

And by the way, last year they had two, the year before. they had three. It's shrinking. Wide receiver is the opposite. Because kids talk amongst themselves. Kids see where the money's going. That's why so many young kids are into tech. And so many football players want to be the quarterback and want to be the wide receiver.

That's where the girls go. And that's where the lettuce is. And that's where the startup is. And that's where the shoe deal is. And that's where the fame is. You don't need the diva wide receiver. The marketplace like Amazon or Apple Music has changed. It's giving you this conveyor belt, this surplus of talent.

So why deal with Antonio Brown? Certainly talented, but not that talented that he blows up a locker room like the Oakland situation, the Pittsburgh situation. They had to throw him out in New England. By the way, if you can't work in New England's system, I mean, if that system feels like it's not going to work, it could blow us up, then it's just not going to work. So when I look at the Antonio Brown situation, even six years ago, you just dealt with the baggage. You dealt with the nonsense because that's the best wide receiver we've seen in three years. They are speculating. NFL scouts are speculating.

There will be multiple Pro Bowl wide receivers drafted this year, third round and beyond. Pro Bowl level guys. Scouts are saying there's guys in the fourth and fifth round this year that will make Pro Bowl teams. When the market changes, hockey enforcer, diva wide receiver, either you change, get more skilled, get less needy, or you have no value or very little value. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. So I saw this story. I've defended Jim Harbaugh because I do believe there are certain standards when he coached at Stanford and certain Stannfords at Michigan. These are unbelievable schools. To me, Stanford, not Harvard or Princeton. If I could send my kids to any school in America, it would be Stanford. I think it has a good balance of academic, sports, lifestyle, but it's a brain center.

And Harbaugh, when he got it rolling there, it was a disaster when he took it over. he was winning 10 games a year at Stanford. That is unbelievable. Winning 11 games at LSU, you should. Winning 10 games at Stanford? Wow. I mean, you're watching David Shaw. It's hard.

Marve Levy, I think Bill Walsh coached there for a while. I don't think he was winning 10 games. It's hard. So then Jim Harbaugh goes to Michigan, and he's averaging 9.5 wins a year. The program was in disarray when he got there. They were averaging 6. He got to 9.5.

And all he gets his criticism. And I've said, you do get Michigan is a top three public university in America. You can't get every single athlete you want into school. It's hard. So yesterday, the Michigan president said, we're not going to have football if we can't get kids into class. See, they have a standard at Michigan. The president's a physician, bioscience background. President of University of Michigan is a top 10 college job, a top 10 college administration job.

It's a Harvard. It's a Yale. It's a Princeton. It's a Michigan. It's like a public ivy is what they call it. Don't get me wrong. Ohio state's a fine university with a great football program. Michigan's a great university with a fine football program.

It's the same with Oklahoma and Texas. Oklahoma is a fine university with a great football program. Texas is a great university with a fine football program. And there's a different. Harbaugh took over a program at Michigan that was a mess. It was sideways. He went 10 and 3, 10 and 3, 8 and 5, 10 and 3, 9 and 4. He can't beat Ohio State.

Almost nobody can unless they're in the SEC or Clemson. Who beats Ohio State? What top three academic power beats Ohio State in football? By the way, the top four academic publics in America, UCLA, Cal, Michigan, Virginia. Try getting your kids into those. They're tough. They're hard.

So to win nine and a half to ten games there is unbelievable. It's all about what can you do based on the limitations. And I'm not saying Michigan has a ton of limitations, but it's an academic power. Fox used to have a movie division called Searchlight. They did independent films. They had smaller budgets. They did some great movies.

They did Birdman with Michael Keaton. slumdog millionaires, Black Swan, Sideways, the movie about, those are great movies. But Fox didn't expect those to make $100 million. Fox would be happy if they could make $35 million because the budgets were often 12, 15, $18, $20 million. Avengers needed to make $2 billion because the budget was $315 million. Whatever it costs, CGI actors, get it. So I always look at the budget for sideways, and I'm like, $15 million, you made a movie that good? You start looking at these movies, Slung Dog Millionaire, Sideways, Black Swan.

The tiny budgets make great films, nothing against Avengers. My son and I loved it, but they had a budget of $315 million. It's like the Yankees in baseball. It's a sport with no salary cap. The Yes Network makes $400 million a year. they can spend for Garrett Cole what nobody else can. The Yankees winning 98 games is not nearly as impressive to me as the Oakland A's winning 90 games. If the Oakland A's can win 90 games or the Minnesota Twins or the Seattle Mariners or the Tampa Rays,

they win 90? That's far more impressive than the Yankees winning 98 or 99 games. What are you allowed to win based on your restrictions and limitations? Jim Harbaugh was winning 10 games at Stanford. last few years. Try getting into Stanford. Now, I don't think Michigan, Stanford, but I think it's a great university. John Cooper was fired as the football coach at Ohio State. He won 11 games three times, and they ran him out. Harbaugh, if he continues to win nine or 10, should have a lifetime contract. His university president is taking academic seriously, the student body seriously.

we're going to try to get football in. But it is, and Harbaugh, by the way, in the articles quoted saying, I think we can do it. Let's not have fans. I'll do whatever it takes. I mean, he's a football coach. He wants the games. But sometimes, you know, we look at college sports and we don't realize.

It's not an even playing field. California, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Florida, have way more great high school football players than Minnesota. Last year, the Minnesota Golden Goevers. Didn't they win like nine football games or 10 football games last year? How? Where do they get their players from? I mean, like, I follow recruiting sites. They've got like four great high school football players a year, maybe seven.

That's one high school in L.A. We got high school football programs down here that have nine Division I football players on it. One program. That's the state of Minnesota. So is it PJ Fleck is coaching at Minnesota? You better not let him go. Because that guy's like winning nine games at Minnesota or 10 games. That is a lifetime.

How he, my whole life I've been watching Big Ten football. When did Minnesota get good? So Harbaugh, 9-10 wins? Fantastic. It's a real school. UCLA, Cal, Michigan, Virginia. I don't expect them to win national championships. You can win nine games at any of those schools.

By the way, have those four schools who wins nine consistently in 10? Michigan. UCLA is a mess right now. Virginia is not the same program. I mean, it's okay. but it's Cal's got its momentum going. Cal's doing okay. Who are those top fours

winning nine and ten games? Jim Harbaugh. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. One of the things, if you've not watched our show before or you listen sparingly, is that in my life watching quarterbacks, if a guy comes out of college into the NFL

and is really special, he pops at practice. Russell Wilson came in, the Seahawks had just paid a quarterback, eight figures, Matt Flynn, Russell Wilson by week three of the preseason. Pete Carroll decided, I'm starting that guy. Lamar Jackson at practice was so amazing for the Ravens rookie year. He was going to be developed into a,

no, John Harbaugh watched Pro Bowl defenders swing and miss trying to tackle him, and they put him in. If you're really special, even as a rookie, everybody takes notice. Very quickly with Jimmy Garapolo, there was buzz in New England. This is the next Tom Brady. That's why Brady wanted him out. So Jared Stiddam gets drafted fourth round in New England. They've got him in camp all year.

Bill Belichick. Camp, exhibition games, ceasing. A thousand practices, right? Or a hundred or how many practices they have. yet Belichick wanted Brady back. Old Tom Brady. Expensive Tom Brady. Belichick wanted him back.

A story comes out today that, and I've been, keep hearing. Oh no, Jared Stid him. Unbelievable. And I'm like, so Belichick was willing, reportedly, to move off Brady two years ago for Garapolo. And Brady was coming off a Super Bowl winning season. Belichick was ready to move off him. Brady off his worst season. years, an older, less effective, Brady, Bill wanted him back. And this is not a shot at Jared Stidham.

But I keep hearing how great he is. And I'm like, in all these practices, he's been there now, how many months? Bill Belichick hasn't gone, wow. He did for Garapolo. Rob Ninkovich played for seven years, super smart guy, very good football player, very Belichickian, real understanding of the football world, says he thinks Brian Hoyer will start this year at quarterback, not Jared Stidham. What? I got nothing against Brian Hoyer. If he walked into this room, I wouldn't know what he looks like.

Brian Hoyer. Are you going to tell me if Justin Fields of Ohio State got drafted last year or Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson or Russell Wilson was drafted, Brian Hoyer would beat him out? Hell, you'd know four practices in. I got myself a star. And this is why Brady is going to win this divorce. Brady is going to have great weapons, a fun head coach, warm weather,

Gronk is back, and Tampa's biggest problem right tackle. They solved it in the draft. This whole thing, I know we love our football coaches, but Bill Belichick and Cleveland went 36 and 44. And then he went to New England before Brady started and was 5 and 13. I know, I know, I know. There's the Matt Castle season. So let's deep dive on that.

Here is Tom Brady's numbers the year before he got hurt. 16 and 0, 70% completion rate almost. 300 yards a game. 50 TDs, 8 picks, 117 passer rating. 16 and 0 regular season. The next year with the same players, Matt Castle, nice guy, blown out three times, 10 and 5, 230 yards. 21 TD's 11 picks and a pass rating under 90. Oh, Belichick's such a great coach.

I mean, this is not a shot at Matt Castle. It shows you how great and influential and transformative Brady's talent is. Nobody would think you could just replace Michael Jordan. He's called the goat. Why are we so sure it's going to be so easy to replace the goat in football? Does everybody get this? The jets are better. The dolphins are way better.

Buffalo has been good for two years. they'll be better. They added Stefan Diggs. Brady is surrounding himself with significantly better players. New England doesn't have a single pro-bowl-level player on offense. Not one. I'm not even sure if they'll have by the end of the year, depending on their quarterback efficiency, if they'll have a pro-bowl running back tight-end or wide receiver in their division.

And you just think they're going to fly through it, because Bill's smart? Folks, Bobby Knight, the minute he thought his system mattered more than recruits, it was over. Greg Popovich, the minute he didn't buy into Kauai, it was about the system, it was over. Listen, I love my football coaches too. But Tom Coughlin, when Eli Manning started aging, got fired. And Pete Carroll got fired twice and was seven and nine, seven and nine in Seattle,

pre- Russell Wilson. This nonsense that Belichick's just going to keep winning in a best. better division with no weapons. Brady's going to win this thing. We're going to look back in a year and we're going to go, New England's old, inexperienced at the wrong spots, expensive, not very athletic, not dynamic offensively. Tell me who on that offense would scare a defensive coordinator.

They can't run. Even their receivers, Nikiel, Harry, and Mohamed Sunu are talented, but they're not burners. You don't have to double them. They're just really talented dudes. So I watched Brady yesterday. He looked tall, happy, lean. Hit a ball in from two,

100 and some yards out. I don't know. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. So every Monday we do this, Joy, it's called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. I have a lot of bold predictions. I have to hold myself accountable to when I whiff, and here we go. Where Colin was right?

Troy Vincent, and I got to give him credit for this, acknowledged the NFL pass interference repay rule was a disaster. You got to give Troy Vincent credit. He goes, I failed. It's me. I failed as a leader. We rushed it in. The rule was a lingering topic of confusion and controversy last year.

Because of one play in New Orleans, the NFL massively overreacted. We never understood it. Stop babying the Saints. It's a great franchise. They don't need help. a bad call. It happens. By the way, the game went into overtime, where the Saints couldn't get it done on

offense or on defense as the home team. This was ill-conceived, rushed into protocol. It never made any sense. And Troy Vincent, to his credit, this is what great leaders do, acknowledged. Yeah, I totally

whiffed on that. Where Colin was wrong. You know, I've always said Peyton Manning's brand is relatable. Oreos, mid-sized sedans. Tom Brady, you know, a little boosy. He's a little more aspirational. But yesterday I was wrong. It was Tom Brady that was relatable.

He couldn't golf. He split his pants. He didn't understand golf drops. He seemed completely frustrated. He didn't know where his ball was. The shot tracer stopped following him. And Peyton Manning, by the way, looked like the country club guy. He was just a great golfer.

Funny, glib, amazing. Brady was unbelievably relatable. All that was missing was a bud light and a marlborough. I mean, he was Mr. Normal Golf Guy in America, totally flummoxed by a great sport, but a difficult one. Where Colin was right. It was always worried about the NBA starting back up. It is a social media-driven sport.

They often react to social media overreact. Story comes out yesterday. They may not start until they're just working on starting late July. Folks, they got seven different proposals. Get it together. These are the youngest, most conditioned athletes, statistically safe. Players are ready to go. Now, Michelle Roberts and Adam Silver, there could be a contentious relationship there.

She's on her way out representing players. And I'm not saying it's going to be perfect. But this is like, do they realize NASCAR starting, UFC starting, boxing starting, golf starting. I mean, by the way, players were golf yesterday all sitting next to each other and talking next to each other. This is what I worried about. Too many stars, too many opinions, too many chefs. Get it together, NBA. Where Colin was wrong.

I always said the Chicago Bulls are the greatest. basketball team in the 90s have ever seen. And the reason is they weren't the greatest shooters, the best ball handlers. They were tough. They were tough guys. I thought, good Lord, Scotty Pippin and Horace Grant all up in their feelings. I thought modern NBA players were sensitive. Scotty Pippins apparently livid about Michael's Jordan's documentary,

and Horace Grant freaked out last week in the documentary, and Isaiah Thomas is defending himself. And Michael hasn't played in 20 years. It's a documentary. It was remarkable to watch all these tough dudes get incredibly sensitive because, I mean, Scotty Pippin doesn't like the way it's portrayed. What? As irreplaceable on the Bulls, Michael Jordan said, you can't even mention my name without Scotty Pippen. Scotty, you buried Scotty.

Michael Jordan doesn't compliment anybody. He said you're the most important basketball person in his life, and he learned so much from you. I mean, I've never heard Michael say that about anybody. So I guess the Bulls weren't as tough as I thought. Where Colin was right. But I've also said Steph Curry is the most underrated player and person in my life in the NBA. Totally gets it. Incredibly selfless.

The new story this weekend, he's recruiting Janus. This would be the second time he is bringing in a superior player slash physical presence to the team. I'm just not sure I'm just not sure how many professional athletes would do that. It's going to mean less stardom. You know, when he brought in Kevin Durant, it did not help Steph Curry's shoe deal. It muddied the waters. They said it was not good for the shoe deal for Steph Curry.

This is why he continues to be so underrated as an American iconic superstar. He understands the value of winning, of being a great teammate, of being on television in May and June. All athletes, this is how it is done. Don't worry about getting your shots. I mean, for the record, he brought KD

in and wanted KD to stay. It was KD who struggled with the relationship and not getting the love from Bay Area fans. I just love everything about Steph Curry. Where Colin was wrong. John Clayton is reporting that Russell Wilson wants Antonio Brown as a Seahawk.

Just when I thought Russell Wilson was perfect, He wants Antonio Brown, who is selfish, odd, self-absorbed. If you can't work in New England and Pittsburgh, and those are about as formidable as football cultures in America. I mean, the Rooney family, if you're struggling to get it to work there, I don't know what to tell you. So I don't get it. I don't think the diva wide receiver is necessary anymore,

and I am shocked. They just got the locker room right again. It's young, it's fun. If they'd not fallen apart physically, they could have gotten to the NFC championship. They just rebooted it last year, and you're back on track. And this is the answer. Don't get it. Where Colin was right. Thank you, David Spade.

Tom Brady's erosion has been overstated. Last week, according to NFL.com, next-gen stats, next generation stats. Brady's the fourth best deep ball passer in the NFL, which is remarkable when you consider he doesn't have a deep threat. There was no grunk. Muhammad Sinoos talented, but an middle of the field guy. Julian Edelman's a slot guy. He doesn't go deep.

Philip Dorset, kind of a bust in indie. As Phil Sims set on my show a couple months ago, this idea that Tom's a shot fighter can't make the throws is ridiculous. I hear people on TV. His arm is not as good. What are you watching? His arm might be better now than it's ever been in his career. Yes.

Yeah. Tom Brady's fine. He's never been athletic. That's not his game. Where Colin was wrong. I've always been a fan of Dak Prescott. I don't think he has a great arm. But I always like the team thing, the leadership thing, kind of the get-it quality. He kind of galvanizes people. Now we've got potentially a holdout. He wants to be paid $35 million a year. He's not a $35 million a year quarterback. Now I understand that he hasn't made a ton of money so far and he's let him do a lot of wins. Like, I get it. But, you know, he got drafted in what? The third or fourth round? I mean, that's, that's, you know, and last year at the end of the year,

he was one and six against playoff teams, eight touchdowns, eight picks. I get guys wanting their money. I do. But if 35 million is the, I'm not showing up the camp number, DAC, one of the reasons everybody was all in on DAC, because you were kind of a fine, it wasn't the arm. You weren't mobile like a, I mean, you weren't Russell Wilson mobile. You didn't have a big arm like Mahomes. You don't run around like Lamar. Franchise tag appears to me to be the most reasonable conclusion of this.

And I think Dax being unrealistic. Where Colin was right. Well, the NFL as always, I think, and I believe this, what they get more than any other league is there a television show. This week they're proposing what I think is an. absolutely brilliant idea. The onside kick, it's not going away, but teams will have the option to have the ball at their 25 on a 4th and 15. What does it mean? It means the hands team won't decide games. Patrick Mahomes will, and Aaron Rogers will, and Carson Wentz will, and Kyler Murray will, and all these Jared Goff will, and Jimmy Garapolo will. This is great. The NFL

realizing the onside kick, it's not good television. What's good television is a doer-dive. Patrick Mahomes, buried in his own territory, fourth and 15. This is why the league is just fantastic. They've always understood. The greater we are on television, the more leverage we have with TV networks, the more money our players, our executive, and our owners make. Where Colin was right? Well, I said when LeBron moved to L.A., people joke because I said it so many times,

I called it the mogul stage, where basketball was 50% and movies were 50%. This is why the Sixers and the Rockets never had a chance. Well, last week he had a new movie deal signed with Adam Sandler And he produced the Let's Graduate Together show That was on every network We always believe the reason LeBron was coming to Los Angeles And this is what happens with Michael Jordan When he went to Washington

Is that players You go from being great For a few years And then you win titles And then you graduate to the mogul stage and if you watch what LeBron's doing, he's now doing on a weekly basis. TVs, networks, movies, digital, and he's doing it very, very well. He is conjoined with all the best people in Los Angeles and the entertainment business.

But this is why when we said he's going to be a Laker, he's not going to be a Sixer, he's going to be a Laker, he's not going to be a rocket. This is why. It's really become exactly what we thought it was going to be, which is he's a mogul, and during a pandemic, he's a mogul and not even a basketball player. And that's what's happened. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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I love what they're putting on the docket this week, the fourth and 15, an option alongside the onside kick. Your thoughts on it and will it pass? Break Shiano's ever done in football. You know, this is his idea. Oh. It happened at about 2012 when he was the coach of the bucks.

and everybody said, oh, kid, go sit in the corner and just coach your team. Shut up. And now everybody loves this. And I don't mean everybody either. This is, I think it's, I mean, look, it needs 24 yes votes by owners this week. I think that's going to be tough to get. But this is going to be just like the extra point when they were trying to fix it and make it not just, you know, a formality, the extra point. So they moved it back a little bit.

this is going to pass eventually. I think it's 50-50 if it passes this week. But all it is is an option because now the on-side kick is 90% negative play. If there's only a 10% chance, you're going to recover it. And so I think the NFL basically said, let's make this a potentially exciting play. It was I wrote about my column. I mean, who even pick a team, any team. Would you rather have the Denver Broncos, would you rather have Brandon McManus, kick the ball into a scrum of humanity, and then somebody gouged somebody's eyes out trying to pick up a ball?

Or would you rather have Drew Locke thrown it to Jerry, Judy, Courtney, Sutton, and Noah fans? Bingo. I mean, come on. It's just a more exciting play. It's funny. I'm watching Brady and Peyton Manning yesterday, and the Manning family and Brady, I'm actually surprised the jabbing that goes on. Maybe I'm naive. But it's very good nature. It's very funny. You've dealt, you've talked to Peyton a lot.

I look at Peyton and I think he seems incredibly happy. He doesn't want to run a team. And I just think to myself, he is aged and retired brilliantly. Are you surprised at how close Brady and Peyton Manning appear to be? That's a great observation from that golf yesterday because even though it was competitive and nobody wants to make a fool of himself, you can tell the good-naturedness between these two guys who were once sort of almost Jeter and A-Rod, you know, or Big Poppy and Jeter or something. But they are really, really good together. And one of the reasons is Manning really admires Brady.

Manning doesn't hate Brady. Yeah, they had a competitive thing going on, and Brady feels the same way about Manning. There aren't many people who can do what they do. Not many people know this, but they kind of combine forces as arch rivals in 2006, and they're the ones who made the NFL allow teams to be able to go and work on the footballs during the week,

so they all wouldn't feel like these slippery pieces of wax coming out of the foil every Sunday when they went to play football. So they've always had a really good relationship, and I think that part of it is born, you know, Manning can call Brady something, and Brady can call Manning something, and they're cool with it. Yeah. So I saw a story last week. I can love a player, and I do, Jamal Adams.

I just think he's spectacular. Yeah. But I can still think, based on the salary cap and his position, it may be time to move him. The Jets have multiple needs. They could solve some moving Jamal Adams to a team like Dallas. There are trade rumors, and I said this, Peter,

I don't know if it's going to happen, but when the story comes out and you discover what a team would be willing to trade him for, a first and a third, that means, to me that's a signal to NFL executives, we'll take your phone call. Your thoughts on the Jamal Adams,

Dallas, Jamal Adams being traded. I love him. I get it. I think I'd move him if I could get a first and a third? What say you? Well, the question is, let's say you could get a first and a third. I think you and I probably feel like the Dallas Cowboys are the favorites to win the NFC East this year. So if the Cowboys win the NFC this year, let's say, for the sake of argument, they'll have the 23rd pick in the draft in 2021. And then And then you basically say, okay, then they'll have the 85th pick, let's say, in the third round. All right.

Jamal Adams is the best player right now on the New York Jets. All right. Would you trade him for a low one and a low three knowing that what is wrong with the Jets, right? And what's wrong with them is that they need franchise players. They need great players. They don't need a first round pick that they might screw. up. And so if I were to jets, absolutely unequivocally not, I would not trade them until Jamal Adams became impossible to live with.

Would you then, because it would be very hard to pay a running back and a safety, that kind of money. If you pay Jamal Adams, it feels like it would signal, signal to me, Peter, that you'd have to probably within short time move off Levian Bell. That just feels like you're paying so much. That's okay, though. That's okay. He's a short time or anyway. He doesn't it at Adam Gates' offense. He's never going to be what he was with the Steelers. That's fine if you want to move off of him. Okay. I don't, I honestly, Colin, I don't think just about money. I honestly, Joe Douglas is going to do a great job managing the salary cap and getting talent, in my opinion. He has to deal with a guy who it sounds to me and looks to me, wants to be,

wants to be somewhere else and wants to spend the prime of his career competing for a Super Bowl. And he knows that the Jets are probably a couple of years away from having a chance to compete for a Super Bowl. So you've got to try to make this work because Jamal Adams should be part of the solution, not part of some trading for picks in the future. Are you shocked? We're still over a year into the DAC-Prescott negotiations. Jerry's paid seemingly everybody. Well, are you shocked? You know, to me, Colin, this is one of those deals where we know far too much about this, in my opinion, and we think about it far too much. What are the real reasons why we talk and we write and we investigate, we look into contract situation? We

have to ask ourselves as the news media of this question. Why do we do this? Is there any chance this year that Dak Prescott is not going to be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys? I suppose there's some chance, 1% maybe. He's playing quarterback for the Cowboys. To me, show up at the start of the season and he'll play. Now, could he continue on the Kirk Cousins path? He might. And if I were him, I think Kirk Cousins has been a real beacon of light for all these quarterbacks who say, well, I'm stuck here. I'll never be able to be a free agent. It would far be it for me to try to figure out why Dak Prescott would want to leave the Dallas Cowboys.

But anyway, the whole thing about Prescott, it really kind of bores me to tears because he's going to play quarterback for them this year. everything else, I just think is just a bunch of talk and prattle. What are your sources tell you about Jarrett Stidham? Rob Ninkovich says, I'm not sure he'll start this year. Do you have insight on what's really going on there? I mean, Brady to Brian Hoyer doesn't seem ideal. What is your guess what happens? My guess is that there's something to what Ninkovic is saying,

but it really depends on how much practice they all get. If Bill Belichick looks at his quarterback situation, let's say there's a normal training camp and the Patriots report whenever it is, let's say July 30th, and you've got six weeks of practice before the start of the season, it is exactly what's going to happen in Miami. If, you know, if Tuatong of Aloa is better in those six weeks or extremely close, and he's healthy, Brian Flores is playing. to a Tonga Valoa. It's the same way in New England.

Belichick doesn't care what you or I or anybody think, or Rob Ninkovich, whoever's the best guy in training camp, assuming they have a normal one is going to play. If they have a sunted training camp, or they report on August 25th, and they say, hey, you've got to play on September 13th, obviously, the lead dog in that pack is almost certainly going to be Brian Hoyer because it's been around forever.

but I think Brian Hoyer playing in September would be unless he, you know, unless he discovered the fountain of youth or something. Surprised at all by the Antonio Brown stories in Seattle. I was surprised a bit, were you? Colin, because I would be extremely surprised if Antonio Brown, let's say that he works out and some team makes a deal with him, he's still going to get a significant suspension from the NFL. And so if you're signing Antonio Brown, you have to believe two things.

Number one, he's turned his life around. Maybe he has. I haven't seen it, but maybe he has. So you have to believe that. Number two, you have to believe that on December 1st, you're really going to need him. Seattle maybe looks at it. Seattle's not afraid of anything. You know, John Schneider and Pete Carroll, they're not afraid of anything.

So I could see a team that says we want Antonio Brown and the impact he could make on us in January. I could see them say, we don't really care if he's suspended for the first eight or ten weeks of this season. We need him for the last four or five weeks of the season so that we get tuned up for the playoffs. You certainly make that argument, especially in that division where it may come down to a late season. It probably will come down to a late season game with the Niners. the Rams, Arizona, and Seattle. Peter King on a Memorial Day. Peter, thanks for taking time for our show today. Thank you, Colin. Take care. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where sports

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