The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Oct 05, 2020

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

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This is the best of The Herd with Colin Cowherg on Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on

Fox Sports Radio and right here on FS1, one hour from now on a Monday. Colin was right. Colin was wrong. It is great to have you in. Miami bounced back the heat last night. Lakers will still win, blah, blah. blah, blah, whatevs. Joy Taylor is joining me.

Joy, you probably feel pretty good about that one. I do feel good about it. It was guts. He was a gutsy win. Yes. Moxie, guts, metal, yes. It was. It was fun basketball to watch, though.

It was. A little bit of a series. All right, let's start with the NFL. Let's start with the game was on NBC last night. Carson Wentz lifting his team, who deaned it, and beat, you know, San Francisco. So these were real questions this week, asked by, I think, legitimate reporters. A reporter in San Francisco asked Kyle Shanahan, could Jimmy Garoppolo lose his job if he doesn't start winning?

You know, to Nick Mullins. Kyle Shanahan, of course, smirked and said, no. And another reporter on the other coast, I think he is fully employed. I would guess, asked Doug Peterson, could Carson Wentz lose his job because he can't win a lot with what you're giving in which is junk? and Doug Peterson said, no, no, Carson Wentz is going to start. Both of those, of course, were answered last night. Sorry neither Garoppolo or Wentz or Patrick Mahomes. There's only one of those, and there's only one Russell Wilson.

But Nick Mullins last night had George Kittle, maybe the best tied in in football. Debo, Saniel, Brandon Ayuk, Jared McKinnon, a healthy offensive line, and they had to pull him. He couldn't end Kyle Shanahan, the smartest young offensive go. They had to pull him. literally you can't even move those guys cars karsen wents meanwhile his leading receiver was Travis fulgum

who played an old dominion I love college football I didn't know they had a football program he's a practice squad guy he also had John Hightower Richard Rogers Greg Ward and he goes on the road and wins with that Garapolo would have won last night Wentz if he had anything would have more wins this year

Can we stop asking those questions? Carson Wentz in first place this morning. And for the third year in a row, he's dealing with absolutely nightmarish personnel. Offensive lineman hurt, wide receivers, six-round guys who went to programs. I didn't know existed. And here's Carson Wentz on the road, just like last December, Philadelphia is in first place. It's actually, frankly, it's amazing. I'm watching that game last night. I'm like, he's going to pull this off.

Carson Wentz is going to pull this off. San Francisco was missing. a running back or two, but had the best tied in in football, legitimate star wide receivers, healthy offensive line, they didn't play terribly well, but nonetheless, they had to pull their starting quarterback. So if Carson Wentz's career was a cooking show, it would be called chopped because he has to take these weird, odd ingredients and make a meal out of it every week. And it's hard, and sometimes the meal is, but last night, he's something.

somehow made edible out of regrettable, and that's what he's done his entire career in Philadelphia, a city that's not very forgiving where the pressure is enormous. And after the game, at least Doug Peterson, his coach, who played in the NFL at quarterback, at least he appreciates what Carson Wentz did last night. He played inspired. He led the football team tonight for the win. I mean, and quite frankly, I mean, yeah, it might not have been perfect, but, you know, he gutted out several plays tonight.

And my hat's off to him for, you know, for just continuing to battle and continuing to standing there and make some tough throws and some tough decisions. And he did a, he did a nice job. We never consider in this league. It's amazing. You know, we all understand that if I inherited a billionaire father and you inherited chaos in your life, you would understand that it's been easier for me than you if that was the case, right?

Like, we understand that in real life. But in football for quarterbacks, we never consider, oh, Patrick Mahomes has Andy Reid, good owners, great GM, Cheetah, Travis Kelsey, a good offensive life. Now, Mahomes is great, but he's just driving a Mercedes here. Carson Wentz's car breaks down and you're asking him to win a road race. This kid is a great young player. I think a little bit of it's in his head, but last night is what he does. First place with guys, six and seventh round guys who played in colleges at programs that I didn't know even existed. Let's talk Dallas Cowboys.

They have two major problems in Dallas. They have an owner who only wants to hire a coach he can control. He had Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells. He couldn't control them, so Jerry didn't like them. So he hires coaches. Jason Garrett now Mike McCarthy, he can control that won't challenge him and push back. And then Mike McCarthy is a head coach, and this is a problem too. It's the same problem.

He's not willing to hire an assistant coach or a coordinator that will threaten or challenge him. There's an old saying in business. It's called A's as in A people hire other A's. They're secure. B's, B bosses, B executives hire C's. People they can control, keep their thumb on. won't threaten them or won't challenge them. And Mike McCarthy went out and as a defensive coordinator hired Mike Nolan,

who'd been a linebacker coach for the Saints for years. Nobody was looking at him as a D.C. He peaked 20 years ago with the Ravens. Easy to peak when you have Ed Reed and Ray Lewis. Mike Nolan is Jurassic and all McCarthy is done. McCarthy's an insecure guy. And we talked about this at a press conference two weeks ago. McCarthy's become the old dad that buys skinny jeans so he can seem,

younger. He keeps going to press conferences and using like analytics jargon. And he calls Peter King, come interview me in my basement. All I'm doing is analytics. Old outdated guy. Aaron Rogers said he had a low football IQ. He was outdated. And he wanted to make sure everybody knew, oh, I am Mr. Analytics guy. And so he drops jargon at a press conference. This is an owner who doesn't want to be challenged. Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells challenged, Jerry. that. He could control Jason Garrett and he could control Mike McCarthy. And Mike McCarthy hires Mike Nolan who once hired him years ago. Kind of, you know, Mike Nolan's not getting the money and the jobs he wants so he can control him. And this is the mess you get. Cleveland

literally lost Nick Chubb to an injury and still rush for 307 yards. There was three and a half hours. Did they make any adjustments in Dallas? Literally Cleveland got the edge anytime they wanted to for three and a half hours and Nick Chubb got hurt. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. No adjustment standing around fooled badly on reverses. You don't have to be a football coach to see a well coach team. You don't have to be a football coach to see a poorly coach team. But Mike McCarthy hired a defensive coordinator and Jerry hired a coach who don't want to be challenged, who don't want to be threatened and feel outdated. And what Cleveland did, this organization in Dallas is about people protecting their acreage, protecting their space, protecting their, you know, their title.

And this is what you get. If you're not willing to challenge yourself in life, if you're not willing to hire people who may be smarter than you, every time you read a business book, what do they always say for the CEO? Hire somebody that's smarter than you. That can challenge you, that makes you rethink things. The last thing you want to do leading a company is hire people you can control who don't challenge you. Yes, man. Dallas is a yes-men territory. This is a bad football team, and it's not getting worse. And it's not, listen, Baker Mayfield threw for well under 200 yards. They really didn't have to throw the football. They used a couple of tricks. They ran the football. It was not a complex game plan.

You would know going into this game if you're Dallas. What are they going to do? What has Cleveland done so far this year? Limit Baker, run the football, one or two gadget plays. That's what they're doing. That's what they did. Three and a half hours, no adjustments. I mean, just because you're in Big 12 territory, Dallas, doesn't mean every one of your games has to look like a big 12 football game. You could occasionally make a defensive stop. Mike McCarthy at least now acknowledging his defense and Mike Nolan is a major issue that's not getting better.

Definitely. We're in a scheme change from the prior scheme here, and we're not off to a good start. So the worst thing we can do is narrow everything down and be a one-called defense. I refuse to do that. That's not the path. Well, this isn't either. Again, everybody in Dallas is protecting their turf.

And the loser, of course, is Dak Prescott, who's throwing for 400 yards a game. But Dallas couldn't make stops. The games all look the same. They're coming. They fall into holes. They're coming back. And some of them are garbage yards, but they're yards. And it would be better if Dak was better early and the game plan was better.

but, you know, the loser in this is Dak, who's going to set all sorts of cowboy records and perhaps NFL records. But, you know, last team of the ball wins, you got to make some stops. Dallas did for about half a quarter. Cleveland broke it open late, and this is what you get.

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Yesterday was why they brought Tom Brady into Tampa. It's not about ability. It's about belief. The players stopped believing in James Winston. Yesterday's first half looked like last year. Tampa was apathetic at home. They were a bad home team last year, two and six. They were apathetic at home.

They had a pick six. They trailed. had the weapons but couldn't make it work, and after a slow start, didn't have sort of the maturity to bring them back. The second half, Tom Brady happened. Actual adjustments, scored on every possession, spread the ball to nine different receivers, all five touchdown passes, five different receivers. That's not ability. That is belief. That is coaches listening to Brady at half. The defense suddenly for Tampa Bay got outstanding. They trailed five times last year at half. Only once, could they muster the ability to come back?

James Winston and Tampa five years, never came back from 17 down in a division that had some bad teams. It's not like everybody they played was great. Chargers are not a bad team. Got a lot of talent defensively. Tampa Bay was down 17. That's not ability what you saw yesterday. That is belief that players believe in Tom Brady.

By the way, Brady's been in nine Super Bowls. He's not thrown a touchdown pass in any of them in the first quarter. How of his second half's been? Ask Atlanta in Seattle. He is the greatest comeback quarterback of all time. And it changes the defense. It changes the coaching. And it changes the belief system.

When you go down in half and you're getting your arse kicked at home, that game, first half looked exactly like Tampa. They even had a pick six. It looked just like Tampa. And then Tom Brady happened. And Bruce Ariens touched on this is that it's so much of this organization, the only organization that's never had a, quote, Hall of Fame, great quarterback in their history.

So much of this organization. It's never been about talent. It's never been about coaching. They've had Tony Dungey. They've had Sam Wisch. They've had Bruce Ariens. They've had good coaches. They've had the Selmans.

They've had great. They had Warren Sapp. They had Derek Brooks. They've had great players. They have great players now. But the belief system in Tampa has always been flimsy. And as Bruce Ariens said afterwards, it no longer is. It was just a show of character.

what the second half was going to show. I can honestly say, had this been last year, we'd got our ass beat by 20. This team has a ton of character and playmakers. And we started making plays. And you can see when we don't beat ourselves, we're going to be a tough team to beat. Yeah.

Listen, I covered this team. I was there. They always had good coaches. They always had good players. It was when everybody sort of bought in to, you know, Tony Dungy and everybody bought in to Tony's defensive system. And it all kind of felt, you know, know, kind of started to feel right.

I mean, they've had Gruden, they've had Dungey, they had Brouserians, they have Sam White. It's never been a coaching issue in Tampa, and it's never been a talent issue. It's been a belief issue, and Brady's changed everything. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. So I've said this before is contextualize it. I've defended Carson Wentz forever. Last three years, he's dealing with nothing. And I love Patrick Mahomes, but he's gotten a lot of breaks in the perfect setting and the perfect coach

and the perfect weapons. Here's a great example of Russell Wilson. So they play Miami yesterday. Brian Flores is a very good defensive coach from the Bill Belichick tree. And they went out and spent money on the defensive side. Miami's got some limitations at quarterback with Fitzmagic. But here's Russell Wilson. Let's start with David Moore.

David Moore is a seventh round pick from East Central University. They can't even get their directions right. Very marginal wide receiver talent. But he always seems to be open with Russell Wilson. Isn't that funny how it works? always seems to be open with Russell Wilson, the seventh round wide receiver talent. There's running back Chris Carson is also a seventh round running back. That means all the teams in the NFL.

Everybody loves seventh round running backs because you don't have to pay him anything and nobody wants to pay a running back. It's funny with Chris Carson. He's now a top 10 running back with Russell Wilson. And there's D.K. Metcalfe, who was a project, a muscle bound project, a second round pick. And he now leads the NFL in receiving yards. He was a project. He was the guy that dropped in the draft. Nobody, he looked great without his shirt on.

But everybody was like, he didn't really run the route. He's now leading the NFL in receiving yards. The O line ranked 29th in the NFL by Pro Football Focus before the year is slightly better than that, so he's not getting help there. And, oh, by the way, Seattle is fifth in yards in the NFL and second in points. Does everybody understand that? Like, this is not a shot at Mahomes. It is not.

But he is doing it with seventh round receivers. And I said this for years. Doug Baldwin was his top receiver. He was undrafted. He was undrafted. Will Disley was a blocking tied-in in college. Not with Russell. He can catch passes.

Tyler Lockett was a gadget receiver at Kansas State. He was considered he'll be a cute little gadget guy. Now Russell and Tyler Lockett last year, I think, were the most accurate quarterback receiver combo in the NFL. There are no DeAndre Hopkins here. There are no Calvin Johnsons. There are no Randy Mosses. This is just a guy.

And this is whenever, and this is not a shot at Aaron Rogers. But when I hear Aaron Rogers, you know, I wish I could get more of this and more of that. No, no, no, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear about you need more of this. You is a quarterback. Carson Went showed you again last night. A franchise quarterback doesn't need constant elevation. You have to be somewhat self-reliant.

I'm watching Jerry Seinfeld on 60 Minutes, the tape of that. this morning. And Seinfeld had both his parents were orphans. And they said, Jerry, was that weird to grow up as a kid when both your parents are orphans? And he said, well, I had to be, because they were orphans, they had to be self-reliant. My parents never taught me how to grab a fork. They didn't know where my school was, my whole life. He goes, you become incredibly self-reliant. When your parents are orphans and you become their kid, like they've had to be self-reliant. They're not into teaching you. They were just trying to survive. And there's a little bit of that to Russell Wilson. He's not reliant on the, he's got a defensive head coach.

He's had bad offensive line coaches who they fired a couple. He has a below average old line. He's got seventh round running back wide receivers, blocking tight ends. You can't, in life, you can't whine and be a victim on everything. At some point, you just got to elevate stuff around. You've got to do it. What's the best thing you've got? You've got to elevate it.

That was a tough game yesterday to win. For this point in the NFL to travel of Seattle to Miami, it was the wise guys pick of the week was Miami. It was my favorite pick of the week. But beyond that, it looked like a really tough game for Seattle. They come off an emotional win. Then you go down to a little old Miami. They have no pass rush. So that means that Russell Wilson has the pressure of having to score massive points every Sunday. And what do you know? They've scored over 30 every week this year. He just tied Peyton Manning's mark with 16 touchdowns through four games. It's incredible when you look at what he's doing it with. I mean, I know these guys are good enough to be NFL players.

but it is pretty remarkable. Let's go back to two a time in that game. And this is a thing with two a time. It is time. There's a couple of reasons it's two a time. That game was kind of classic. Fitzmagic becomes FitzTragic, which is the second they needed him to make a play,

he couldn't at the end of the game. They had to settle for field goals. There's a lot of reasons it's two a time. Number one is you don't have to play the Patriots, you don't have to open with Belichick. The schedule now for Miami is much more workable. It's also you didn't have a pre-seeing. season with Tua, but you've had four games. It's a little bit like preseason, a lot of snaps.

The second thing is you've had another month to get healthy. That was always a question about, you know, that was always a question about Tua, his health and his hip. The other thing is that Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert have walked into this league and been fantastic. Not winning all their games, but have looked fantastic. So there is some sort of, remember, that Tua was better than Burrow and Justin Herbert on average through his college career. So my takeaway is this. now is the time to play Tua, even if he's not quite ready. I've said this before. When you take a job, you shouldn't be totally ready for it.

You got to bail water. That'll tell me if you can handle yourself. Put Tua in if he struggles. If he feels overwhelmed, never forget. Miami is a rebuilding franchise. So if Tua struggles, here's the good news. Miami will not only have potentially their own top 10 NFL draft pick, they have Houston's.

Houston's O and 4. So this is a franchise. Let's put him out there. Let's go see him for 10 straight weeks. Burrow has looked great with a terrible offensive line. Justin Herbert was given five minutes to start against Patrick Mahomes and now it started against Brady. He has looked excellent in both games.

So Burrow and Justin Herbert, those two franchises know, even if they don't win a lot of games, we don't have to take a quarterback with next year's pick. Miami's going to have two. Their own top 10 potentially and Houston's top 10, absolutely. And if Tua looks overwhelmed, you go draft another quarterback. I mean, that's what Arizona did. That's the world we live in now. And you say, how could you bail on him?

I haven't seen him yet. But there's no use. You're already three games out of first, four games. Your division's too good. Buffalo and New England are two of the top four teams minimum in the AFC when cams healthy. Play him, if he looks overwhelmed, maybe you have to move off. him. He had some critics. I liked him out of college. I thought he'd be an I thought he's an A minus prospect, B plus A minus. But if you, but if you whiffed on him and he can't play, boom, go get another guy.

He was one draft pick. That's okay. You don't have to give any more up. You got Houston's. Take another quarterback. And by the way, Ryan Fitzpatrick was on with Peter King last week. He knows the situation he's in. He understands the game here. Here's Ryan Fitzpatrick. security really for my whole career it's a week-to-week proposition and i've got to go out there and prove it every single week but with to uh just being able to slow down sometimes to be able to take the extra minute to explain something in my thought process or to sit on the bench during a game and instruct and talk and answer questions that stuff is maybe a little bit different than you know how it would go normally but i know what my role is and i know that i'm keeping the seat warm for him

By the way, this is very much Alex Smith to Patrick Mahomes. Tyrod Taylor probably doesn't want to admit it, but it's a little Tyrod Taylor to Justin Herbert. It's a matter of time. Flacco didn't want to give his job out to Lamar. That is different. But this is the perfect situation. This is Alex Smith, knowing Mahomes is the guy. It's a first round quarterback.

I can help mentor be a really good teammate. It'll help me in the long run. It's to a time. We've had Fitzmagic. It became FitzTragic. They settled for field. goals, the bad pick late, let's move on, sink or swim, and if two of struggles, you're going to have potentially two of the top seven or eight picks, get another one.

One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. All right, here we go. It's Colin right, calling wrong. I'm a lot. You know, I'm all over the map, sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Let's call me out. It's a Monday. Here we go. Where Colin was right, Well, when people criticize Brady and say, you know, his arm, I don't know but his arm, I keep saying his arm is fine. Brady was one quarterback the first 15 years of his career, and he's done another quarterback the last four to five. The arm's not the issue. Second half yesterday, perfect passer rating, 260, 15 to 17, throwing deep balls.

About four to five years ago, Tom wasn't quite, didn't quite have the zip on the outroutes, the sidelines. routes. He threw another pick six. But I've seen this Tom Brady for about three to four years, and this is what he is. He's not as good in December. He can't quite have the zip on the balls up the sideline. But this idea that his arm is the issue. No, his arm, he's an old quarterback, so what happens is energy, sustainability, consistency are not as good. But I don't buy the arm issue. Second half yesterday, he was brilliant and a lot of deep balls. Where Colin was wrong. Bad, Blazing Five weekend. I took three favorites.

They won one. I lost one. And I tied one. But I took two underdogs and they both went down the tubes. Miami and Chicago. So I'm one game under 500 on the year. All of our odds provided by Foxbat, one, three, and one on Friday. Where Colin was right.

We predicted Joe Burrow would win his first game week four at home against Jacksonville. Yes, we predicted it on June 3rd. I looked it up this morning. And we were right. Yesterday, Joe Burrow, who's a really nice prospect. He finally got help, as Joy noted. He got a running game. Joe Mixon's excellent player, by the way.

He had a little off the field stuff, but Joe Mixon's always been a nice player. I also like Cincinnati's wide receiver talent. Give the organization credit. Now they've got to redo the offensive line fast. Like this offseason, they've got to upgrade the offensive line. But we told you this would be the game he would win. I think we predicted they'd win two or three games. I do think their next win will be November 29th against the New York Giants

because their schedule for the next month is really, really tough. And he's going to pull back a little Joe Burrow in the next four games. Where Colin was wrong. I called the Mike McCarthy hire a B-B-B-plus move. Nope, it's not. It's not working. Mike Nolan was a favor. Mike McCarthy, as I said earlier, Nolan hired McCarthy years ago.

This was a favor. Nolan is outdated. they're not making any changes. It's not working. By the way, they keep falling into holes offensively. Why is Dax struggle in the first quarter? And then defensively, their best, highest-priced players, and I know it's a new scheme,

but none of them are productive. DeMarcus Lawrence and Jalen Smith, for the money you're paying them, are simply not productive. And I don't know how the way out of this, because it's not like their schedule lightens up a ton. It's not a good hire right.

now. It's not a BB plus higher. It is a D, D, plus hire. Where Colin was right? I like Justin Herbert out of college. I said January 30th. On the air, I said he's the senior bowl MVP, the Rose Bowl MVP. He's got the liveliest arm of all these first-round

draft pick quarterbacks. He's big. He's mobile and a four-point student. In Oregon had marginal tight-end receiving talent. Don't out-out think the room. He's going to be a really good quarterback. I don't know when, but he will be. It's now. He's a really good quarterback. You know, in the Well, Oregon had a very conservative offensive sensibility this year.

They have an offensive line coach as a head coach, and they kind of want to pound the football. But I think sometimes we overthink the room. He actually has many of the same qualities of Trevor Lawrence. I don't think he's quite as good, but he's six-six, a lively arm, he's mobile, his teammates love him, he'll let her rip, he throws picks, he doesn't care about it. Like, don't out think the room. Justin Herbert was always going to be good. you know, there was no red flag here at all.

People said, well, he's a little mechanical. I watched the Rose Bowl. He didn't look mechanical to me. He didn't look mechanical yesterday. Where Colin was wrong. I went into the season with a lot of skepticism of Pete Carroll. I said he will not let Russell Wilson run this offense. And it's really hurting the team.

And in Seattle, they started this thing called Let Russ Cook. Well, guess what? Pete Carroll deserves a ton of credit. They throw the football. Pete Carroll has relinquished the offense to Russell. It is very much driven by Russell Wilson and his decisions. They're now 4-0. And you've got to give Pete Carroll credit.

Joey and I talk about this all the time. Belichick and Pete Carroll are old guys willing to adapt. And I thought Pete was starting to turn into a dinosaur here. Like stop running the ball for entire first halves. Pete has adapted smartly. This offense is all about Russell Wilson and Seattle's beaten. Where Colin was right? Never like Matt Patricia as a head coach for Detroit. The Roger Godell clown shirt, the hat on backwards first game. I thought he looked like a, he looked like

an assistant and a frat boy, and that's exactly what he's been. 10 and 25. They blew a 17 point lead in week one, an 11 point lead in week two, a 14 point lead yesterday. Every time he's at the mic, he's reeling. Yesterday he's saying, well, I came here and they needed a lot of work. Not really. They were 9 and 7 and 9 and 7 under Jim Caldwell. They were good. They just weren't special. And you brought him in to fix up the defense and get special. I don't think the defense is as good.

And it's not as good late in games. Situationally, it's a worse defense. Never liked the higher proven to be true. Where Colin was wrong. I thought OBJ and Kevin Stefansky, I thought that'd be even less OBJ. Because Stefansky's all about power running. Yesterday, boy, was I wrong. The trick play, the goal line touchdown, the reverse.

Stefansky used OBJ brilliantly, cleverly, and it's actually OBJ in this offense now, has really become a big play guy, which is what he should be. I thought running game coach, he would be kind of marginalized, but this is when he's at his best. This is when OBJ can be a star,

reverses, trick plays, over the top, and OBJ, best game is a brown. where Colin was right? Don't talk a lot of baseball, but I said the Dodgers appear to have the best team in baseball. They do. They breeze through Milwaukee. Now it's San Diego. By the way, they led the major leagues in home runs and ERA.

Cody Bellinger is the reigning MVP. He now bats sixth. They brought in Mookie Betts to a super talented roster and lineup. The Dodgers have all the ingredients to win. They've been everything we thought they would be, and we may not talk baseball, but adding Mookie bets to an already stacked batting roster, batting lineup has been just what the doctor order led baseball in home runs and ERA. Where Colin was wrong.

I thought Tom Herman was a great hire by Texas. They're now one in three against TCU. The defense is a mess. You know, it's interesting. I think he's obviously got a personality. He can be a little snippy with the media. But the truth is, they're getting manhandled by TCU. They feel like they're being outcoached.

They've recruited offense very well, defense not quite as well. He's smart. He's young, but he's got a senior quarterback, an NFL quarterback. They should be rolling over some of these teams. They really should be. They're very fortunate. They haven't, they beat Texas Tech. They have not been as good as they should be.

And frankly, in the Big 12, if you're Texas, it shouldn't be two and three and four years to rebuild. I mean, outside of Oklahoma, you should be heavily favored. You're getting better players in recruiting. that every other school, there's a lot of Texas techs in the Big 12th. There's Oklahoma, Texas, TCU's a distant third in terms of recruiting. Simply, so far, not good enough. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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So tonight, Atlanta... I hear a dog. Of course. Of course. When I come on live, somebody's at my door. I'm sorry. That's okay. That's okay.

So Atlanta, Dan Quinn may be coaching his last game tonight against Green Bay in your career. Did you ever play knowing if you didn't perform and if you didn't win, the coach is pretty much out of work. And that's kind of the feeling with Atlanta tonight. I remember I was with the chiefs. And we had our coach at the time was Gunther Cunningham. Yeah.

And Dick Bermil had been in the facility earlier that week. and we were playing against Atlanta Falcons and we ended up losing that game. And I remember looking at Coach Gunther on the bus and he had this sad look and sure enough he got fired the next day. So we kind of knew it was, and of course they hired Dick Vermeal the following year to replace Gunther.

And so you had that sense of it. But I don't know. You say you think Dan Quinn's going to get fired. Arthur Blank, the owner, Mr. Blank, he's never fired anybody in the middle of the season. But I do believe that the Atlanta Falms, the way they've lost. It's been unbelievable the way they've lost. I feel so bad for them.

But I believe if they have a really strong performance and if they're able to get a win, there's no way they fire Dan Quinn. But they'd have to get blown out, I think, tonight in order for him to get fired. So New England goes on the road to Kansas City and instead of Cam, it's Brian Hoyer. So take me, again, you have Cam Newton, you're going on the road with Belichick. you probably feel, even though it's Kansas City, you probably feel good about your chances. Now you go to a backup quarterback in Brian Hoyer who's never started for New England. Is the locker room different, Tony, knowing you lost your star quarterback for a huge game against the great opponent?

I think absolutely. It absolutely is it's a huge disadvantage. The quarterback is the most important position in all sports. We've always talked about that. We all know it. It's why they get paid half a billion dollars for a contract. when you got a really, really good one, like Patrick Mahomes. So you're missing out on Cam. And Cam, he had that magic back. He was back to that old Cam.

He had that offensive going, offense going. And so as a teammate of that, it's like, man, we got to play flawless tonight. It doesn't mean we're going to go out there and lose. Hoyer, the destroyer. He's capable, but it's not Cam Newton. And you know you're now stuck behind the eight ball. I mean, it's going to be tough for them to go out there and win tonight, especially because the offense he hasn't been preparing.

It's a different offense. You know all this stuff going in your head, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see tonight a lot of gadget plays, a lot of going forward on fourth down, a lot of fake puns. Who knows what it is. You're going to see maybe that Cleveland Brown style of trying to win a game tonight because what else you got to lose?

Everybody's expecting the Patriots to go in there and get their butts kicked. Yesterday, Brady, bad first half, great second half. He's got nine, ten different targets made catches. is interesting, Tony, that nobody, once Chris Godwin comes back, there's three tight ends, there's three legitimate receivers with Scotty Miller, Mike Evans. I don't

know if you ever worked in an offense. In Atlanta, you guys had a lot of talent. Is there a situation when you're at your level? You're a very good player. And you just know there's just a lot of weapons that your quarterback can use. Does it change the way you think? I mean, I looked at

Tampa yesterday and I'm like, man, they don't even have Chris Godwin. They don't even have Leonard for net and they're just throwing it to everybody. How does that make you feel as a skill guy knowing you're going to get limited touches and limited chances in a football game? Honestly, I don't like it. I'm selfish, Colin, man.

I want to throw me to ball. I know I'm good. And that's what I think has really slowed this offense down. Now it can work because you got a guy like Tom Brady. But even that, it's like when Randy Moss was there, he was throwing at the Randy all the time. Julian Edelman was catching all the last. balls. I believe you need two main guys in an offense in the passing game. So you have one A, one B. Those guys are each going to catch over, especially in today's office, over 80 balls.

And then you got one guy who's going to catch around 50, 55 balls. And then everybody else, after that, you get in where you fit in. And that's an efficient offense. I think when you're trying to spread the ball around and trying to throw it to everybody, that's where the confusion comes in. I think it just, I'd rather just focus. It's the reason that I, that, that, I don't like buffets. There's too many choices. I want a specialty of the house. I want consistency.

And I think Tom, hopefully he can figure that out because this is spreading the ball around. I don't think the skill players don't like it. And I don't know. I think it would make it easier if Tom just said, hey, here's my guy I can go to. Here's the guy I can rely on. You know, it's interesting watching Cleveland now. Cleveland's 3 and 1. and it's a losing franchise historically, 20 years straight of losing, and now they're winners.

And now they go whack the Dallas Cowboys. And part of me thinks they feel confidence, but is it that false bravado where you're winning, but you can get sucked right back in on a two-game losing streak. It's not a winning culture. Whereas if New England goes on a two-game losing streak, they expect to win. That's their culture in the locker room. Talk a little bit about your NFL travels and about how cultures matter. and it can turn negative very quickly to a team that has a recent history of losing.

Absolutely. I've been through it. I think anybody who plays long enough, unless you're Tom Brady and the Patriots, but most teams out there, when you have that losing mentality, you go into the game saying, hey, let's not lose this game. Let's play not to lose instead of playing to go out there and win. Certainly things are changing in Cleveland. And this is what we said before the season even started,

that they are stacked. They have a lot of talent. out there in Cleveland. And if they could put it together, they could win some games. And that's what's happened. But, you know, beating the Dow's Cowboys,

I mean, that onside kick away from being O-1-4. So I don't think the Cowboys are as good as we thought they were going to be. But hats off to the Cleveland Browns. They've identified themselves, though. They know what they can hang their hat on. And it's not Baker Mayfield. It's that running game right now.

Even though Nick Chubb goes out, when you have a guy like, Kareem Hunt. And let's not forget who Kreme Hunt is. When he was out in Kansas City, he was one of the best running backs in the NFL. And they're going to be fine. They have a good offensive line. Obviously, they got the great skill players and Odell Beckham and Jarvis Laundrie, but they need to keep to that formula that's made them successful. Baker Mayfield, still young, he can still keep improving. And there's no better way to make it safe for him. Turn around, hand that ball off. And then when you got to make the throws, go ahead and make them

and don't turn the ball over. And that's what he did yesterday. He threw the ball more than he's thrown the last couple games. I think he had 30, you know, 30 throws, which I think is right around there. Don't go too much. You've talked about this before. Keep it at that. Play good defense. Don't turn the ball over. And they got a formula to be a really good football team. Finally, so Ryan Fitzpatrick is certainly capable.

Tua's in the wings. And, you know, Joey and I were talking about this. You know, you can't fool athletes. Like if Tua was burning it up at practice and you're starting Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, at some point it's not good for morale. How long would you go when you have kind of a C-C-plus guy in Fitzmaic and you got Tua and all these young quarterbacks are crushing it? Would you be worried at all that the locker room, you could lose the locker room if you didn't go to Tua in the next couple two or three weeks? Yeah. Well, you know, I'm looking at that. I mean, they're one or three.

What is Tua doing during practice that they're not trying? that they say, hey, let's just wait. And Fitzpatrick is, I think he's real. When he's on fire, he's one of those quarterbacks in league. It's just he's that microwave player. It heats up, but then he cools down. But I believe in being battle tested. You really don't know what a player is capable of until you get in that game,

until you get the snaps. And I think Herbert out for the Chargers is a good example. Who knows if he would be playing right now if Tyrod Taylor didn't get hurt. but he's come in and he's lit it up and he's played really well. Now you're like, they are set for quarterback for the next five, six, seven years. And I think eventually they're going to have to make that change. They're one and three. The division is slipping away.

They're probably not going to go to the playoffs. Let's get the experience. Let's get him out there. Let's see how he plays. Even if he hasn't performed that well in practice enough to start over Fitzpatrick. But you know what you get with Fitzpatrick. I would put two in there over these next couple games and let's see where he's at. and let's say, okay, we got our franchise quarterback?

Well, we don't. And we'll ride the season out. They got a lot of picks coming up in the draft. This is a team of the future. I think they're going to be okay. But, yeah, I would definitely put two in there. Let's see what he can do under the fire, under the big lights. Yeah. Tony Gonzalez, the Hall of Fame are 14 Pro Bowls in 17 years.

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