The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd for Sep 18, 2020
Episode Date: September 18, 2020-Baker Mayfield is now the 4th best QB in the AFC North-Dak Prescott is now dealing with the real NFL-OBJ will have to adjust to a run heavy game plan-Tom Brady only cares about wins even if it's ug...ly-Joe Burrow might be too much of a gamer and it could turn him into Andrew LuckGuest: Bucky Brooks, FOX Sports NFL Analyst Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is the best of the herd with
Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio.
Oh, here we go on a Friday.
Live in Los Angeles.
This is The Hurt, wherever you may be.
However, you may be listening,
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I slept in this morning.
This is the easiest show.
I got all so.
I got a game to talk about.
I got Baker and Burrow.
Joy Taylor is joining me.
I'm going to have a sip of coffee here before we start.
Joy, you're glorious today.
How are you?
I feel glorious.
That's the way to start a weekend.
Amazing Thursday night football game.
Plus, Miami Heat won.
And the heater up to.
Oh, it's not a big deal.
It's not a big deal.
Let me start with this.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you understand what you saw last night?
No, no, no, no.
Don't let that just fly by.
Do you understand what you saw last night?
No preseason.
Rookie quarterback with a battle line and no running game.
And his team said,
throw it over 60 times.
No picks.
Three touchdowns.
Passer rating in the 90s.
Do you understand what you saw last night?
Cincinnati, far less talent, had 30 first downs, Cleveland 23.
Joe Burrow, rookie, half the penalties of Cleveland, 4 to 8.
Joe Burrow dominates time of possession with a bad offensive line and no running game, virtually impossible.
Fourth down, five for five.
Do you realize what you?
You asked a rookie quarterback.
game two. Short week to play from behind every snap. Lamar Jackson struggles to play from behind.
Good quarterbacks are never as good playing from behind. Russell Wilson's really good. He's
better with a lead. I've never watched a game. We're a rookie quarterback that didn't have half
the talent was asked to throw 60 times, no preseason, and the other quarterback played one of his
better games? And I thought, holy crap, the losing quarterback's way better. And for the record,
this is not some referendum against Baker. Baker played one of his best games. He threw with confidence
and velocity. He made a beautiful throw in the end zone to OBJ. He ran a little bit. He played with a lot
a confidence. He was really firing the ball. But circumstances are everything. If you told me you
were rich at 35 and your dad was a billionaire, I don't care. If you told me you were rich at 35 and
had a life of chaos and nine divorces, I'd go, bro, let's have lunch. Tell me your secrets.
Baker had a running game. Baker had better protection. Baker was at home. It was Baker's 30. A start.
Baker's got star, star, support, support. They only asked Baker to throw 23 times. He played
with a lead he played on with a great running game at second and four it's third and two not third
and 11 do we understand we saw last night if you're a general manager you'd never seen these two
quarterbacks play you land on earth and you watch these two general managers consider circumstances
you'd be like that was Andrew luck 61 throws no preseason
overwhelmed no running game and a bad offensive line that is Andrew Loss
It didn't matter that Andrew went 11 and 5 because I'm not saying Joe Burrow is Andrew Luck.
I think Joe Burroughs Tony Romo.
Maybe he's better.
I thought Andrew Luck was John Elway.
But do we realize what we saw last night?
I mean, listen, I know Cleveland's celebrating this morning.
Cleveland's just freaking out.
This is great.
A, your defense, your past defense needs work.
And B, you officially have the fourth most talented quarterback in your division.
I'm sorry you do.
I'm sorry you do.
By the way, you know I have said what Joe Burrow is to me is Romo.
He's a gamer.
He makes some mistakes, but it doesn't bother him.
He just naturally runs.
He just runs and it's easy and it doesn't feel like he's running for his life.
He's just running.
He made a throw running yesterday that looked like Aaron Rogers.
It was a bolt.
So I went back this morning and I went and looked at Tony Romo's second start in the NFL.
Listen to this, Joy.
Second start for Tony Romo in the NFL.
they asked him to throw a lot.
Remember, this is Tony Romo.
This is 15 years ago when people didn't throw like, you know, 40 times.
24 or 36, 300 yards, 2 TDs, no pick, passer rating 109.
And he lost.
That was a lot of Tony Romo.
Remember that first year?
It wasn't very good.
But he would throw for a lot of yards.
They put the playbook on him.
He could run around.
He was a gamer.
He wasn't winning a lot early in that first year.
But that's what it looks like.
But circumstances matter in life.
Where did you come from?
What are you surrounded with?
What's your support system?
It's much easier for me to do a good show now.
I got Joy.
I got Goulet.
I've got nine producers.
I was local.
And I had one guy who would show up late sometimes.
And you're doing a show with no gas.
It's all different.
Support systems matter.
Baker should be good.
Their running backs are insane.
Who's got two number one running backs?
Cleveland.
Caramont and Nick Chubber.
Great Nick Chubb is unbelievable.
He's one of the top four running backs, three running backs in the NFL.
I was blown away.
Listen, I know Cleveland thinks today we won.
Congrats.
I'm looking at that thinking,
you got a Trubisky here.
You're not really sure if he's the guy.
You can win some games,
but he's not Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rogers,
and Matt Stafford as a talent.
We don't think that.
Joe Burrell's real.
This is a real player.
I don't understand.
Do you understand what we saw?
61 throws on the road.
Thursday game, short week, no preseason.
Under duress, no picks.
Passerating in the 90s.
He would add a pass rating in the hundreds,
but he was running for his life and threw some incompletions.
Wow.
Here's Joe Burrow.
Wow.
This might be the only time in my sporting career that I've lost two games in a row.
It doesn't feel very good.
I know guys in there are hurting.
We're going to come back to work tomorrow and try to get this thing right.
losing is unacceptable to me to everybody in there to coach taylor to to everybody in this organization
so we're just going to have to get fixed says the right thing too always says the right thing
let's shift to the cowboys i've been saying this about dallas joy as my witness for the last
week you know they're a tyron smith left tackle injury away from being in big trouble
Oh, this story just came over the old wire.
Tyron Smith misses practice with a neck injury.
Oh, oh.
Now let me just say this.
He may play.
But when you get a late week injury report like that, not good.
This is what we saw with Philadelphia last week.
This is what we saw with the Rams last year.
When you pay six or seven guys, big boy money, you can't afford debt.
If Tyrone Smith can't play at the Cowboy Start, two undrafted tackles.
And what's really happening now is this.
Dak is living the real.
That's pretty good.
Dak is living the real.
When Dak entered the NFL, I mean, come on, folks.
They gave him the keys to a Mercedes.
Dallas's offensive line was not only healthy.
It was the best in the league by far.
Zeke was unbelievable dynamic.
Jason Whitten was the NFL's.
first or second best security blanket at Tide End.
He had a dynamic guy, kind of dynamic,
Dez on the outside.
Jason Garrett was a former NFL quarterback to mentor him along,
and there were no expectations.
He was a fourth round quarterback.
Now, Dak is living the real.
The offensive lines old and falling apart.
He may not have his left tackle,
the center's gone, and the right tackle could be an undrafted guy, too.
Oh, wait, he is.
And now Zeke's not quite as done.
dynamic and tight end, you don't have one.
He's out for the season.
And your best linebacker, second best linebacker, he's out in the secondary.
He's not very good.
This is the real NFL.
Dak walked it.
It's like when Magic Johnson came into the league, he had Kareem.
Now Magic's great.
That's not the way it works.
When Michael Jordan came into the league, he had Orlando Woolridge who wouldn't pass him
the ball.
That is what Michael Jordan.
When LeBron came into the league,
He had nothing.
He didn't even have Orlando Woolridge.
That's how it works when you're drafted in the NFL as a quarterback.
It looks like Joe Burrow.
All right, kid, throw 50 times.
I don't have a good offensive line.
That's a you problem.
There's no running game.
Yeah, short week road, no preseason.
DAC is now, this is the real.
This is the way the league works.
Offensive lines got some talent, but a bunch of guys are out.
You're running back's good, but not as dynamic.
Oh, crap, tight end out for the year.
got a good receiving core. But the coach now is kind of conservative. And oh, by the way,
oh, oh, there's expectations now. Dak, you have got to be great. But my offensive line,
my running back, my tight, excuse me, not interested. You're making 30 million a year.
Go be great. No excuses. No excuses. Go be great. You've been in the league now plenty of time.
Go be great. I like Dallas this weekend. And I think when Dak plays at home, I like it.
but this is the real NFL.
Not everything is, you know, keys to the Mercedes.
You get a Kia and it's low on gas
and the right tire feels a little wobbly.
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I thought Cleveland Brown's game plan was terrific.
Now, nobody calls a perfect game.
There was one call in the game.
I thought was a really bad call by Kevin Stefansky.
It put way too much pressure on Baker Mayfield.
It was like third or fourth down at the one yard line.
And they asked Baker to make a deep throwout right, a precision route.
It's like, come on, Kevin, that's not the, that's not,
you're putting way too much pressure on a quarterback at the one yard line to make a kind of a little bit of a half-cross field throw.
I didn't like that call at all.
Outside of that, I thought Stefansky had a good night.
This is what they're, this is what Cleveland should look like.
that is not good news for O'Dell Beckham,
who had four catches for 70 yards,
and people are saying it was a great night for him.
He had one big pop for 43.
After that, he had three catches for 30 yards.
The question is, are you okay with that?
Because I will say, this is what the offense should look like.
Very run-centric.
They got great running backs in Cleveland.
They have two number ones.
I want to see 45 carries a Sunday.
Baker is way better.
little of Baker goes a long way.
26 attempts, 27 attempts or less.
And then one or two pops downfield to OBJ.
That's what this offense is.
In fact, Cleveland late had a chance to really put the game away.
It was fourth quarter.
And they asked Baker, instead of handing the ball off to Kareem Hunter, Nick Chubb, tremendous.
They tried to throw it downfield and the corner sweeped in for the Bengals and picked it off.
Now, the question becomes, if you look at this game plan, this is it.
This is the blueprint for Cleveland.
Little Baker goes a long way, run the hell out of the football, and one or two pops downfield to OBJ.
That's it.
And Jarvis Landry isn't healthy now.
When he comes back, he may get the one or two pops.
Odell afterwards.
I just feel like we can always be better, even towards the end of the game, towards the start of the fourth quarter.
I feel like we could be more aggressive and let's put it.
the game away and not feel like it's got to come down to the wire.
I actually agree with them on the aggressive thing, but I think aggressively run the football more.
I thought the big mistake, there were two times last night I didn't like the play call.
I did not like them throwing it at the one, one and a half yard line, way too tough of a
throw for Baker Mayfield.
And I didn't like them throwing it in the fourth quarter with a chance to go up like 35, 13,
right down the middle, throwing it 25 yards.
I'm like, turned around and handed off, eat the clock.
Do not give sin.
We know Baker's history.
He throws picks.
This is what he does.
We know Joe Burrow, you can ask him to throw 61 times on the road with no offensive line.
He's not throwing picks.
Baker throws picks.
He was asked to throw 23 times and he threw one.
So the two times I didn't really like Stefanski's play calling were throws.
They were not runs.
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Tom Brady and the Buccaneers now go on the road to face Carolina.
So Tom Brady faced easily the best defense he will face in his division of the three teams last week.
He will now face easily the worst defense he will face in his division.
easily. Derek Carr is considered more of a captain checkdown, checks out a big place. He averaged
eight yards an attempt. And Derek Carr is not a guy that throws the ball down the field. Tom Brady's
going to have some success this weekend. But let's ask ourselves, what does Tom Brady need to do for
everybody to chill out? Because we've never ever graded Tom Brady on anything other than winning. You do not know
what his completion percentage is for his career.
You don't know what it is. Don't look it up. You don't know.
You don't know what his passer rating is.
Don't look it up. You don't know.
How many times has he led the league in touchdowns?
We've never cared with Brady. He's MJ.
Rings all I care about.
For all you that care about Michael Jordan being
number one all time to go, say LeBron's number two,
you know, LeBron's going to crush him in all the stats.
And you go to one thing.
Rings, brother. Rings.
That's all we've cared about.
Tom Brady ever. Winning. So if Tom wins this weekend with no preseason, new system,
just remember what he's dealing with. Mike Evans is his number one ride receiver. He's got a sore
hamstring. His number two receiver is Chris Godwin. He's in concussion protocol. May not play.
Doubtful. Donovan Smith is his left tackle. He's not good. His most talented running
is Leonard Fernett.
Leonard Fernett got to the team two weeks ago.
And his BFF, Gronk, he's coming out of retirement.
If Tom wins.
Oh, yeah, no preseason, new coach, new system.
If Tom wins, that's it, right?
Like, don't expect wow.
Don't expect perfect.
Evans is not healthy.
Godwin may not play.
left tackle, key offensive line position is their worst.
Leonard Fernett just got there and Gronk is coming out of retirement.
I think Tampa wins this game.
Tom's also dealing with, maybe you've noticed, a story that he is answering questions about.
Now, one, two, three, four, five days later, he's answering questions about Bruce Ariens taking a shot at him.
You know, he's a coach, so I'm a player.
Just trying to win a game.
There's that.
So again, the audience confuses me.
LeBron's going to blow Michael Jordan away with everything,
but it always comes down to six for six,
which I've always said, Bill Russell's got 11 titles.
Does that mean he's better than everybody?
He's got almost double of Michaels.
But you always go down to he wins again.
It's all cats are winning.
Okay.
So Brady wins.
If you win Sunday, we're good.
okay he's he's dealing with a real right now too
Evans hurt
Godwin hurt left tackle stinks
Furnett's brand new
Gronk is old he's dealing with real stuff too
and he's on the road
I want to say this about Joe Burrow
now I thought Joe Burrow was really good
but I was here's the bad news
for Joe Burrow
he got the crap kicked out of him
two weeks
Joe Burrow has been hit
22 times
and you do get Cleveland's defense isn't good.
Baltimore's is.
Pittsburgh is.
He's got to play them four times.
Like last night reminded me a lot, not only of Tony Romo, but of Andrew Luck.
We sat there and watched Andrew Luck, who is a much bigger, thicker, stronger athlete.
We watched him, and for two and three years got the crap kicked out of him.
And by year four, Andrew Luck could no longer play.
a complete season.
And I remember years ago, Andrew Luck said,
this was early in his career, he goes,
I love getting popped that first time.
I love getting popped.
I don't even know him in the game until I get popped.
Stop saying that.
I'm not interested in that.
I don't.
Joe Burrell doesn't need to get popped.
And he doesn't, did you see Sheldon Richardson on that play?
You all talk about how good the SEC is.
SEC is high school football compared to the NFL.
Sheldon Richardson grabbed Joe Burrow yesterday,
and Joe Burrow is 6-3.
225 pounds.
Shelton Richardson grabbed him
like his little brother.
Like his little brother.
So all I'm saying on this,
we all know what Joe's going through.
He hasn't faced his best defenses.
The Chargers have a great secondary.
The Cleveland defense isn't very good.
He's got Baltimore two times.
He's got Pittsburgh's defense two times.
This league is not complicated.
Get your quarterback, protect your quarterback,
and draft guys who get theirs.
Cincinnati's got to get this.
You've got to protect this guy.
Because I've seen this story with a much bigger, stronger, thicker kid, Andrew Luck.
I've seen it.
By year four, he couldn't play.
By year four, Andrew Luck was missing games.
Like, this is, this 22 times he's gotten hit in two weeks.
And this isn't the meat of the schedule.
And the other thing is, it's not just physically.
We have a history of this, is that quarterbacks,
Joe Burrow will handle physically getting beat up all year.
year. If he gets, let's see, 22 times in two games, extrapolate that 14 more. So if Joe Burrell gets
hit 800 times, you could do it, 22, two games, somebody's mathy, it's not me. It gets hit 700 times.
He'll physically survive whatever that is. Hell, I don't know. Okay, he gets it 180 times.
He'll survive it physically. There's a mental component here. Nobody likes to get smacked in the
mouth that many times. They just don't. Nobody likes it. And then all of a sudden,
You see guys that their feet start moving, they get a little shy, they don't feel good in the pocket.
For the record, you know who did that? Baker Mayfield.
So Baker had a really bad offensive line his first two years in the league.
What has been the knock on Baker Mayfield?
He leaves the pocket too quick.
He didn't in his first year.
Why is that?
Because he's been hit, and it's no fun being hit.
Watch Sheldon Richardson grab Joe Burrow and just throw him to the ground.
This is not the big tent.
This is not the SEC.
It's not the Big 12.
you are in the crosshairs of the world's best athletes.
I mean, and we're not showing,
there's a play here we don't have on tape.
It's a long story enough to work.
I mean, look at that.
Look at some of this stuff.
Oh, my God.
How many of those can you hit?
That is just unbelievable, how brutal that is.
Can we talk about your math skills there?
You were off by about 620 hits.
I don't work.
Apple here. I'm not
Matthew. I've always said
the smartest people in the world are mathy.
Whenever I hear, oh, that sportscaster, that newscaster,
we're not smart.
Smart is
19,000 divided by 8, and you have an answer
in four seconds. I'm not mathy.
I was only off by 588.
That's all I was off. I was right.
I'm really terrible at math, too, so don't feel bad.
We're wordsmiths.
Exactly what I am. I've thought of myself
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Give me a good quarterback underdog, but that didn't do anything for me last night. I had Matt Ryan,
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The most, I think Joe and I would agree with this.
The last 20 years, there's been one team I knew what I was getting every week.
Win or lose, I knew what I was getting, New England.
Yeah.
I mean, they literally looked the same.
I lived in Connecticut.
The games all looked the same.
The preseason looked like the regular season.
They'd get better late in the year, but they looked the same.
Now there's one team in the NFL.
I have no idea what I'm going to get this weekend, except ball control, New England.
This is what's fascinating about Seattle and New England.
Can you win not throwing the football?
Can you win with Cam having 17 to 20 carries?
In 2020, can you win in the NFL by being one-dimensional?
Well, they were in week one.
What's fascinating about this game, Seattle and New England.
New England has been for 20 years the.
most easily predictable team in the league.
Not just winning.
Efficiency.
They had you guessing week to week.
Belichick's rules always been.
It's a different team every week.
This can't be.
What you saw is what they are.
They do not have a serviceable veteran tied end.
They do not have a deep threat.
What you saw in week one is what you're going to get with New England.
This is a very limited offense.
And so I think what you're going to see is a lot of running both teams and Seattle's O lines and D lines are bad.
My feeling on this is most of America thinks this is going to be a blowout.
But watch this weekend.
This will be the classic game where we know Seattle has more dynamic players.
Jamal Adams, Bobby Wagner, D.K. Metcalfe, Russell Wilson.
We know this is the classic game to watch line play.
I know.
I'm telling you to watch line play.
This, if New England can keep it close at Seattle, it's interesting.
This whole league now is dynamic and its perimeter and it's a firework shows.
And I think New England's saying, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to go the opposite of the league and all we're going to do is run the football.
Because I think it's all they can do.
So to me, it's a really interesting team, the New England Patriots,
where I knew what I was getting every week for 20.
20 years.
And now, if by the end of this game, it looks like Miami, then I will go back to saying,
I know exactly what I'm getting.
But I'm fascinated to watch this.
Do they have a second gear?
Does the dynasty have a second act?
And do they have a second gear?
And I think New England's going to keep it close.
My hunch is they're going to keep it close.
Remember, Seattle does not have a true number one wide receiver.
They do not have a downfield threat at tight end and they have a below average offensive line.
And we know Bill's the best defensive coach, perhaps, in the world ever.
Fascinating game to watch this weekend.
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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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Some call it grotesque.
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Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
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A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.
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Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
I know what you're thinking.
What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
I'm Sam Jett.
And I'm Alex English.
We pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.
To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.
I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.
I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
We also have AIDS on the table right now.
They're finishing that sentence.
Yes.
I don't think there's a more.
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black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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Played in the NFL. He was a second round draft pick.
And he scouted in the NFL, helped build the Panthers and Seahawks defenses up.
And he's our friend at the NFL Network Fox Sports Analyst, too.
Bucky Brooks, haven't had him on for a while. He's joining us.
Okay, so you're a scout. And I do believe a losing quarterback.
can be more impressive than a winning quarterback.
And I look at asking a rookie with a bad old line and no running game to throw 61 times trailing.
And I'm way more impressed with that performance than I am Baker throwing with a great running game, a lead and throwing 23.
Am I nuts?
No, you're not nuts.
Joe Burrow looked like he's expected to look as the number one overall pick.
What you're doing early on in these assessments, you just want to see do they flash the talent that led you to believe that he could be a top 10.
pick, better yet a number one overall pick. And he did that. I think the most impressive traits
that Joe Burrow displays has little to do with his physical ability, his poise, his leadership,
his maturity, his ability to continue to battle when his team was down. Those things are
encouraging. And then at the end of the game, after the game, when he goes in, talks to the reporters,
he says all of the right things, the things that you expect to hear from a franchise quarterback.
I think if you're the Cincinnati Bengals today,
you feel really, really good about your young QB1.
If you're a Browns fan and I like their game plan,
do you have to say, listen,
we're just better when Baker throws about 23 times
and come to that realization because I thought Baker was about as good as Baker can be.
And I think last night's kind of his ceiling,
one big throw, ran pretty well,
let him throw on play action.
The more you ask a Baker, you ask Baker to throw 61 times,
it's man overboard. I don't think he's burrow. So if I'm Cleveland today, should I look at that and go,
this is kind of what he is. Let's just own what Baker is. Yeah, that's the blueprint. I think that's what
we have to do and that's what we have to get comfortable with. Regardless to where Baker Mayfield was
taken, he was taking number one overall. And so normally we heap a ton of expectations on the
quarterback taking that high, but that's not who he is. What Baker is, Baker Mayfield is,
is a high-end managerial type quarterback. And there's a lot of.
There's nothing wrong with that.
If anything, I think the Cleveland Browns can kind of take a page from the L.A. Rams' playbook
and treat Baker like the Rams treat Jared Gough.
This is a team, the Cleveland Browns, loaded at running back, Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb.
You have OBJ and Jarvis Landry on the outside.
Austin Hooper can control the middle of the field and the offensive line is playing well.
The only thing you need Baker to do is buy-in to the game plan, understand exactly who you are,
manage the game, let the playmakers do the work.
You'll win a ton of games.
And oh, by the way, you may get paid like Kirk Cousin and Jimmy Garapolo did
because they're quarterbacks that are very, very similar to the way Baker-Mayfield is when it comes to a silly.
So it's very interesting.
The hit rate on young quarterbacks, and we've talked about this,
they got more snaps by 15 years old than the Drew Bledso, the Warren Moon era.
These kids now have 10,000 snaps by 12.
More of them make it, more of them are playing early, more of them are good early.
there's fewer busts in the last five years, and I just said to Joy.
Duane Haskins last three games, 111 passer rating, 65 percent, 5 TDs, no picks.
A game that won't, you know, the country won't watch a ton of is Arizona, where I think we all
admit Kyler-Marie's a hit.
If Duane Haskins plays another good game this weekend, is it too early for us to go,
Ron Rivera doesn't need to draft the quarterback.
Like, when will be the time that Bucky Brooks, a former scout, if you look at the
DeWain Haskins this week.
Win or lose, I don't care.
But if he comes out and get him performs, do you feel like we got a guy?
How many do you need to see?
Well, I mean, I think in general, the magic number is two years.
So 32 games is normally when you make those assessments.
But here's what I'll say about Duane Haskins and why I'm in on him.
Having known Duane Haskins and Kalimori since they were in high school who's doing the
elite 11 thing, they both were very, very solid.
The thing about Duane Haskins, and this comes from Urban Mike.
Irvin Meyer said he was the best 707 quarterback that he's ever been around.
When he stepped on campus at Ohio State, he was ready to go.
Had to work through some maturity things.
But from the talent standpoint, he has everything.
I think this offseason was great for Duane Haskins.
I think he stepped into the league and may have taken his standing for granted.
He had to work.
Ron Rivera made him work and earned the position.
So now we see a slimmer Duane Haskins, a Duane Haskins that did more work in the offseason.
consequently we're seeing a better
DeWain Haskins when he performs
and I think a lot of people didn't look at
DeWain Haskins at the end of the year last year
they got distracted by the fact that he got caught
taking that selfie at the end of the Detroit Lions game
and they dismissed how he played
he played pretty good at the end of the year
this is just a continuation of what he started doing
at the end of last season
so you taught me this whole thing
about the tractor trailer thing
about some quarterbacks very few
they can pull a team but generally
the team pulls them. And I was saying about Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson inherited Kareem as a
rookie. That's not normal. You generally inherit a bad team. Michael Jordan had a bad team and the
wrong coach. And they're both great players. But Dak wasn't living the real his first two years
in the league. He had the best O line. He had a former NFL quarterback head coach. He had Jason
Whitten. He had a great running back. And the division was kind of a mess. I look at Dak now with all
the offensive line injuries, no tight end. Now greater expectations.
and I'm like, okay, this is what the NFL's like.
This is what it looks like.
You may have two undrafted tackles starting Sunday.
Can DAC win with this reality?
Yeah, he can because he's done in the last couple years.
I think here's the thing.
It's a myth and a narrative that's out there
about the Cowboys' Offensive Line being a top five offensive line.
A couple years ago, yes, that was the case.
But they haven't been that version of the front line
that we've seen in a while.
And then when you go in, you look at the weapons that it has around him.
He has enough on the outside to be able to get it done.
C.D. Lamb helps give them another weapon to go to Mari Cooper and Michael Gallup.
Ezekiel Elliott is still terrific, a top five running back.
But yeah, there's more pressure and more expectations on DAC.
And he is going to have to work around a shaky offensive line.
Part of the reason they struggled last week offensively, the offensive line got dominated by the Rams and Aaron Donald.
He has to find a way to be able to work around that.
Some of that will be him.
Some of that really will fall to kill him more.
Can they put together a game plan to mask some of the deficiencies that they have up front?
But yeah, the expectations are ridiculous for what people want to see from Dak Prescott.
I'm still buying him and I'm still saying he's the best quarterback in the quarterback class that he came out.
And that includes Carson Wentz and Jerry Gough.
You know, it's interesting.
You've never been as high on Garoppolo, I don't think, as I have.
But what I can't deny is when I see a head coach who's supposed to be a brilliant offensive mind take the ball out of his hands, I can't.
There's nothing I can do about that.
So they got cluster injuries at wide receiver.
They're a mess at wide receiver.
Kittles even banged up a tight end.
Do you believe Kyle Shanahan this morning truly believes in Jimmy Garoppolo after week one?
I mean, I think it goes all the way back to the Super Bowl.
I mean, you go and look at the two-minute drill.
They had the ball and had an opportunity to move the ball down the field,
and they elected to run the ball before they put it in the hands of Jimmy Garapolo.
Here's the thing about Jimmy Garapolo and Kyle Shanahan in that system.
That system creates opportunities for Jimmy Garapolo.
The system is one of the best systems that I've ever seen in terms of the misdirection,
running game and the past game and how they blend everything together.
The problem with Jimmy Garapolo, when you watch the tape,
every week he misses two to three big play opportunities that Kyle
Shanahan has dialed up.
For whatever reason, Jimmy Garapolo can't see it, he can't anticipate it, and he won't let
it go.
And so as an offensive coordinator is frustrating because there are only a handful of opportunities
that you get to dial it up to really create these scoring opportunities.
And because Jimmy Garapolo can't cash it in, it just makes it very, very hard to call
a game around him.
I believe this week, though, Cal Shanahan will be at his best because he knows he has to
call the perfect game for.
for Jimmy Garapolo to succeed without George Kittle.
You'll see Jimmy Garapolo play phenomenal because Kyle Shanahan had put the pressure on
himself to create the opportunities for Jim Garapolo to succeed.
Is Brady going to win this week?
Brady's defense is not very good.
Their secondary is bad.
Yeah, Brady's going to win this week, but I think the Tampa Buccaneers may have a little
buyers remorse.
If you go back and look at the last 10 games that Tom Brady has played,
James Winston has been a better player.
And I don't think Tom Brady can turn a.
to round. Completion percentage, yards per attempt,
passer rating are all in the bottom five of the league during
that span. Look, I love Tom Brady for all the things that he's done,
but I don't think he will ever return to being the player
that we saw in New England. Man, that was, you're worse than Bruce
Ariens, guy, just chewing him up and spitting him out there.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, loving eyes will never see there, Colin.
Bucky Brooks. It is good seeing you, my man. Catch Bucky
Jonas Knox. Saturdays, Fox,
George Radio 4-hour show 4 to 8.
Good seeing you.
Hey, man. Thanks for having you.
Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy.
Not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert.
Michael and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes
for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, what's good, y'all?
You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games.
This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing.
How many men carry a suit or armor it?
It signals to the world that you're not to be played with.
And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to.
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On the Look Back at it podcast.
From 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84's big to me.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
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