The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Big Play Slay - DeVonta Smith on Jalen Hurts’ growth from Alabama to Philly, NFL Draft, Top NFL CBs & Alabama WRs

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Philadelphia Eagles CB Darius Slay interviews his teammate, DeVonta Smith aka “Smitty” aka “Skinny Batman”. The two Eagles discuss Philadelphia's 2023 NFL Draft picks, how the Alabama alum fee...ls about all the Georgia Bulldogs on the team, and the growth in Jalen Hurts from Alabama to the Philadelphia Eagles. DeVonta talks about his other Alabama QBs Mac Jones & Tua, his relationship with coach Nick Saban, then ranks the best WR's in Bama history and the best cornerbacks in the NFL. Slay also asks Smith about being called out by Washington Commanders draft pick CB Emmanuel Forbes and their two matchups this coming season. #volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 The volume. What's up, everybody, man? It's your boy Big Play Slay here, man. You know, I got to bring another special guest. Of course, it had to be another Eagles guy, because I'm an eagle. You know what I'm saying? So today, man, we got a 2020 highest trophy winner, two-time national champion. Tenth overall pick.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm glad he failed to us because I felt like he should have went way higher. And, you know, and my guy set up. the record for the most reception as an eagle. Come on now. Got my boy Smitty in the building. Devante Smith, aka Skinny Batman. What's good, my guy?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Appreciate you having me, man. Oh, yeah. You know, I appreciate you. Hey, appreciate you joining, first of all. And then I got to get off my chest right now, right this second. You know I don't like Alabama. Why got an Alabama shirt on? I'm thinking, at least go.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We're on the same team right now. We're teammates. We're not enemies, no. I know we was in the SEC together, but I hate Alabama, bro. We got Judy, all the Alabama jersey behind him. I got thrown away. You got thrown away, bro. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Hey, man, you'll get used to it some of that later. Oh, my God. Well, all y'all do is just pile up at Alabama and have 5,000 freaking five-star recruits and thank y'all good. Stop. Yeah, gee, man. Nick save him, if every guy might be Fitzpatrick. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:02 He always talking about him highly. And I always talk about him talking about you. You talk about you well. Do you talk to him often? Since I love, we haven't really talked that much. But when I was there, you know, that was kind of like my guy. I was kind of going both ways. It was like, I'm in the defense meeting and the offense meeting. So, you know, me and him, we always was together watching fam, things like that.
Starting point is 00:03:20 When I did come over to the defense, he right there with me, selling me everything to do and stuff like that. So, like, we had a real good relationship. Y'all see now, y'all, y'all heard now. I try to tell y'all now, I said Smith didn't want to play both sides. Like, he could play corner. Did y'all just hear that, you know, he was in meetings on both sides, But Nick's saving arguably supposed to be the DB guru, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:39 That comes to Smithy was in the room, you know, so, hey, Nick, Sariana, if any one of us go down, me or J.B, God forbid, don't my boy Smith in now. Don't throw him in now. Y'all all starting to be coming competition with his receiver use, though. You know, we got LSU, you got y'all. They got Ohio right now trying to come in there sneak in. right now at Bama man I got you at number one as the best receiver done
Starting point is 00:04:08 so you rank your top five Bama receivers top five it's like you gotta go Julio Julio gotta be one like Julio is just on another level or a true run first offense
Starting point is 00:04:20 he was the only like Julio like number one that's facts that's facts then I have to go I have to go Coup that's a rock running king then I have to go read my freshman year
Starting point is 00:04:32 you know just watching read work like red was different. Ooh, he'd be running. Y'all got some route trees, though. All y'all can run some route. So I go read. Then I put Judy. I put Judy.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Route running, like, that's probably the one people don't talk about the most, but like one-on-one, you're not covering them. Like, he used to do some stuff. Just like, no, Florida, I feel like, the Florida boys, receivers, they different. All of them run routes the same way. But a lot of them are like,
Starting point is 00:05:04 getting in out of them thing. Like knees, great knees. Like, I don't see how they do it. Like, stopping on the dime, two steps, they out of there. You're real to say, way. Really, we do it the same job. And then I go me. I go me after that.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Okay, so you're saying you're number five. Yeah. And with the high's me, okay, that's respect, though. You go all the way with the high. That's respect. That's respect. That's respect. That's how I am, man.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Even though I want to say myself, I'll be real with myself first. And that's why I'm not that we get along with my husband. very well because you came in the game as a real dude professional you know i knew you was quiet because you just never talked in interviews like that either you could just see your high use talking in interviews i'm like bro cry you know what i say i don't know how funny he is you know what i'm saying i don't know if i'm going to push a button or not but of course me being who i am i'm going to push a button anyway just to see what kind of i mean and turn out to be with that you're a pretty funny dude you know what i'm saying so the draft just went by of course we dropped a lot of georgia guys
Starting point is 00:06:04 I know that's kind of like your new robbery right now It's not even Arbor really It's more like Georgia Y'all see them a lot in the national championship You don't saw them a lot No score to win a touchdown against them Like how do you feel about us Becoming to Philadelphia Bulldogs
Starting point is 00:06:16 I mean for me it's cool man You know you want to bring those type of guys in Guys that you know been places where they're winning That know how to go about business That played to a certain standard I mean to me just draft guys From Alabama or Georgia You'll be all right
Starting point is 00:06:33 Boy, you forgot about Mississippi State because you know what I'm saying? We beat out of you, we got the dogs. We got all that going on, man. My thing is y'all had the weirdest draft. COVID year, not too much going. I need to know, like, how was your draft experience when it was all that doing?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Because I got a different experience from it than you probably would because you had the COVID year. I ain't lied. It was terrible, man. We was out of Cleveland. It was freezing cold. It was raining. Man.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Cleveland got nothing in the city. at all. I know y'all ain't go party nowhere after that because, you know, I was in New York. We just out there sitting in the cold, man. Oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. Hey, oh, man, I forgot to tell you one time, right? I was arguing with this dude, right?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Because they was kind of worried concerning my, you know, you was having a trophy winner in a COVID year with no fans, no nothing. Is he ready, though? Is he ready for the spotlight? This is when we drafted you because I thought you were going to be the first receive off the board. Even though Jamar Chase is a dog.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Waddle's a dog as well. but I like, he's the most polished one. You know what I'm saying? Run rounds. I don't care about a little skinniness. You breaking tackles. You're doing everything you need to be doing to be the number one guy off the board. So I'm arguing.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm like, he doesn't feel to us. I'm lit, hype. So a dude was arguing me saying, you think Smith will be ready for the moment with all the stuff, all the fans coming in, you know, playing off COVID year. He had no pressure. He had no guys in the stands.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I said, I don't know the guy personally. But from what I'm saying on film, nobody is tackling him. I mean, I don't think fans can, like, change the way if somebody can tackle him. I don't think fans can change the way how he run routes. But, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:10 So I was going to your defense way before you got here because I liked you during college. You're not going to say that now, but I can say it now, but I'm going to tell you that in person, but I'm going to tell you all here. You was one of my favorite guys coming out of college. I'm like, oh, boy, we've got to get the Smitty kid. If he's the first one off, I'm like, blow.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But, yeah, man, so, I mean, how do you feel from that? Was it a big transition for you? Because I thought it wouldn't. You know, having no, but 20,000 to 60,000 now because, you know, that COVID year was crazy. Nah, man, it really wasn't, you know, at Bama, you hold a hundred. So, you know, it was way louder than, you know, any NFL game. So, you know, playing the three years before that,
Starting point is 00:08:49 playing the national championships and things like that, you know, that kind of prepared me for moments like that. But, I mean, I've been playing the moments like that my whole life. Look at you, look at you, look at you, look at you. Look at you. Y'all do be filling up now. Bamma do fill up. How you felt when I'm going to all the draft people was talking about your size coming out?
Starting point is 00:09:05 I know you like, man, y'all stopped playing with me like that because I knew you. I know you. I know how you're thinking. So I know you like, stop playing me. Yeah, you know, it is what it is, man. You know, the quick guy started to realize that it don't matter what, you know, these experts saying stuff like that. All it takes are just one team. You know, feel it draft me.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's all that matter. I feel that they love me. I love them. So, I mean, it would be. I love you too. I love you too. I love you too because I'll tell them you came in
Starting point is 00:09:33 I said watching the first couple of wrestled us you know what I'm saying I'm like damn okay Smitty smooth Smitty got some good releases I'm saying okay we're out of break
Starting point is 00:09:44 but you know of course I win the most in practice you know what I'm saying that's just what we're going on you know what I'm saying go tell the world but you know
Starting point is 00:09:53 I just want you to see if you're going to be an honest guy so who win the most in practice I think it'll go back and forth I ain't gonna say you need to want to just win the most. I said go back and full, you know, you have certain, you have, you know, certain things on
Starting point is 00:10:07 when you be like, oh, yeah, I know he's doing this. So I know he's going to run this. And then I have certain things on you. I know, like, okay, I know what to expect right here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. One thing about that fans, look, me and Smitty, we compete at everything we do. It's just what it is, you know what I'm saying? I know y'all don't see the clips of me and him getting the one-on-ones.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And I'm going to vouch for him right now, you know what I'm saying? I think he really can transition to DB. I think out of all receivers that I don't been around. to me, the only one I think can really play both sides. I don't know. I'm not like I'm signing because he on an interview.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Nah, it's real facts. I'm just speaking some facts right now. You know, I really feel like way. And watching y'all like, okay, you do got a little, okay, stay square. He moved his head. I'll say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 But he said he was a thumpur in high school. I don't know how hard it hit, but it's a different level hitting another grown man and leave. Now, he might have covered somebody, but hitting dead hairy. Nah, I wouldn't do all that. I wouldn't do all that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh, you're straight ball. Yeah, yeah. You're straight ball, man. So you already cheat. Now, you already got certified hands. Now, you do got some certified hands. You had a lot of first round quarterbacks in the room. You got two of them, mad.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You know, except for Jayland, you know, he slipped. He should have been a first rounder. But with them, we're done three guys in the room. What are you learning from them? Like, they're some talented guys right now. They're soon to be stars in this league. We've got a couple of months already stars. What are you all learned from them?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Just the way to adapt, you know, all those guys, they're completely different. The way they throw, the way they go about. like the concepts and things like that, what they want you at, everybody is different. So being able to adapt to, you know, different quarterbacks, you know, having Jaylen my freshman year, then, you know, going to Tool, then having Mac, it was just like you got to be able to adapt, no matter who's back there, you got to get the timing right, you got to get, you know, the language right of how they want things and things like this. So being able to adapt to different guys.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Okay, yeah, I can understand that. I can see that. I can see that because that's a lot of different kind of balls coming at you from different angles. Definitely with tool being the left-handed, so I know that ball coming out different. sure. And you know, not been hearing about Tua having this old soft touch that Cheetah always talking about. So he had to be, you know, he said, just feel like a loaf of bread, just fall in your hand. You don't call the ball from it. Is it like a lover bread falling in your hand? Definitely. Is that okay? Okay. So it must be he got a nice pretty ball. That's
Starting point is 00:12:19 that what they say. They say he got a nice pretty ball. You know, when I'm moving down to play them, get some in Miami with the joint practice, you know, you can tell that he got like a nice arm. He has a guy that needs to fill for spots. Like, he a guy that just throwing blind spots. Not just saying as in just throwing it just to throw it, but he expects you to be there to make the play. It's like a Drew Breeze type of guy that mean, because that's what Drew Breed is back in this day. He threw it to a spot and he expected you to be there. That's just how Toa look like to me where we was practicing against him because he would dock some things up and on time it was on point and everything. So I kind of like tour game. How has Jaylen develop from Alabama
Starting point is 00:12:55 to now? He's developed a lot just from, you know, in the field going through reads and things like that. And, you know, just overall being a guy that's going to be coachable and a guy that's going to, you know, you know, coach up other people. You're not at the right place at the right time. He's going to let you know. And he knows how to go about it. You're not one of the guys just going to get on you and just yell at you and things like that.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He's going to help you understand it, the reason why you're doing it and why you're supposed to be there. During that transition of him getting switched down in the roles, how did that, like, how did y'all see the effect of him or how he kind of like was around the building? Because I got my perspective of how he was around the building. because I got my perspective of how he was around the building because I'm quite sure he was, you know, chilling
Starting point is 00:13:31 because he came in behind Carson was just still doing the same thing, chilling, vibing, same attitude. Do he had the same attitude while he was there? Oh, yeah, definitely. Still, you know, still supported the guy that came in, you know, still made sure that he was ready, no matter, because you never know what was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:13:47 SC championship game the next year. Tool went down. He had to come in. So he was always prepared, always kept the same mentality and pro stains the same way. Yeah, that do sound like them. You know what I'm saying? Since AJ been a part of us, right?
Starting point is 00:13:59 How much had you learned from him? Because, you know, I've been learning a lot from him just because he's a big receiver and know how to use his body against no corners and stuff like that. So what do you learn from from a receiver standpoint? Like you said, him being a big receiver. You know, he, you know, made me go,
Starting point is 00:14:13 put elements in my bag that I would have never thought about doing. You know, I'm not trying to get physical with nobody. I'm not trying to fight the line. I'm not trying to do nothing. You did say that. But him, you know, the best thing, and I say work for me was on the goal. routes, you know, he got this little push at the hill at the last second.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I've been telling that if I told him he was on the last week. I said, boy, you're getting good with him, late hand deep while with the light push. Yeah, I say, I say that probably helped me the most, you know, just being on the go ball, you know, just push the hip and, you know, D, we just lose control of everything. You put, you hit somebody in the hip, just everything, just go out of the right. It really do. Like, people don't understand, you know what I'm saying? Even though this is the office again, y'all be cheating.
Starting point is 00:14:49 But y'all, too, can cheat because y'all are on the same team. I want y'all to keep pushing and getting away with as much as y'all possibly can. But I know when a dude running full speed When the light little touch You know how much out of position You're going to be like he's so hard to stay into position Like that when it's just a light touch on the hip It messed up the whole game
Starting point is 00:15:06 So you know, I'm like Yeah And I know what AJ did I said, dang And I remember just loose it back in the day Calvin used to do it a lot But see he was so big He just gave me a little light chicken wing It was just um
Starting point is 00:15:15 With the elbow, you know So it was tough It's tough And I'm glad he kind of teaching A bit in your game man Because you know I call y'all the best duo in the lead There's nobody mess with y'all.
Starting point is 00:15:25 There's nobody close to y'all. I don't even know how you make all, I mean, pro go. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how. You know, I saw guys that made it. I'm like, they guys were talented, but, you know, people be like, oh, he had a lot of targets. You was our screen guy.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So that's why you get into saying, because you don't want to get up field, make a dude, mess, and do your thing. And people acting like, you don't break tackles. You break tackles. But, yeah, if you take them screens away, you probably would have just had probably about 70 catches and still over the gusts. You know what I'm saying? So people don't pay attention to film.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So that's crazy. I know you felt like you got snub about that pro bowl. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I know you did. I saw that thing. You saw that shit. When coach put it on the board, he was like, you know, awesome than this.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I saw you say, man, fuck that shit. I know, when you hit that league back in the chair? I saw you say, yeah, and you had your little dude bag on. I said, looking sweet and hot by that shit. I said, day, I thought you were going to make it. You know what I said? Because you should have.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I think you and your boy, Wilder, man, y'all both had kind of like very, very solid year, too. who's in. Yeah. And, like, very dominant. And y'all had, like, a very other dominant receiver
Starting point is 00:16:27 to still progress all that. A lot of other guys, they was getting every target. They was the number one. And the number two is, like, light years away. You know what I'm saying? You know, I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:38 both of y'all boys, one A, one B for both teams. So it doesn't matter who it is. Anyone y'all could get hot. The other guys that made it, they got to stay hot to win. You know, we didn't have that. You know, we got the luxury
Starting point is 00:16:49 of having you wearing AJ. So AJ can go for 30, but you could go for one. 50 and we still blow a team out by 30. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't no big difference. So that's why I thought like for sure y'all two should have made it. But that was weird to me.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I was kind of kind of hot. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was hot about that because I want it to my dog to get this first Pro Bowl because you deserve that thing because they, you know, because Pro Bowl come with big bags. And you know what I'm saying? When you get your big big bag, I just ask to let me hold some, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:16 just for like, hey, man, this is for the help. You know, you put me out there. It could be a little $20 and $30. You know what I'm saying? A little delums. I like to eat steak, you know, tomahawk steak at that with a waggo type of mess, you know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 00:19:49 scary. Oh, cream of chicken. Chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream and chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As an Eagle man, what was your best game-changer moment? Probably a Chicago game. You know, just being out there, you know, offense, we came out kind of slow.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It's cold, freezing cold. Come on, I don't even warm up in the cold. I stay in the building. I stay in the building to it's kind of go out. It's freezing cold, you know, it's hard as the offense, struggling to get the ball moving
Starting point is 00:20:29 and things like that, you know, just going out there, just, you know, having to be a spark for the offense. So, you know, I kind of started off kind of hot and then the offense got going. You know, Jalen got it going.
Starting point is 00:20:39 AJ got it going. You know, it just went from there. Yeah, I'm going to tell you from a defensive standpoint. We'd be able to talk about game playing and stuff like that. So, you know, you know, you know, on the game.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Stats kind of pull up on the side. You know, you know, I looked up. Smitty for 80 already in the first half. God damn. So, you know, every game been like that for me with you. You know what I'm saying? I'll just be looking up and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Because you're like a really quiet assassin. Because I remember you doing it in Washington. Like, everybody like, okay, he's just going on. You know, but not knowing you just took an underneath route for 50, bam, to come back then postball. I'm like, now he had about 120 already. You don't even know. Like, you're such a silent assassin.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It's so smooth with it that people don't even be thinking you'd really be killing them. but you really be about a buck 50 they keep playing with you. It'd be crazy. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, how's it all? Dang, we just kind of feel like we just started this game. How bro already got like 80 yards? For sure.
Starting point is 00:21:32 The best corners you don't win against, including myself in practice, who your top guys is you don't win against? All right, for sure. You already, you know you number one, for sure. Okay, okay. That's for my dog. That's why I love Smitty now. It's my dog now.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I have to say, Pat, Surtain. for show. No, Pat. Hey, you're not going for no move. He's just going to sit there, physical. I had to say my rookie year, Bradbury, when we played him the first time, he gave me a problem.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Okay. He gave me a problem. You know, a lot of respect for Marchand. You know, me being a Saints fan, growing up watching him, a lot of respect for him. Carlton Davis from Tampa Bay. He was nice. He nice.
Starting point is 00:22:18 People would be sleeping on Farton, me. I love. cards again. He's nice. He nice. Yeah, he was nice. I'll say that's it right there. Okay. Okay. You know what? I knew you was a saint fan a long time ago because, you know, watching old tweets from you, getting on your boy, getting on your boy. I started laughing so hard. I was like, I say, ooh, and you know, you know Twitter bring up the dirt. We're not going to say no name, but they bring up the dirt. I'm like, no, I said, I ain't trying to get nothing started over here. But I was laughing because I'm like, yeah, boy,
Starting point is 00:22:49 Smithy is a safe man for sure. That boy even got on down on that boy. So Smitty, man, you got my guy, Emmanuel Ford's Mississippi State alumni. He's a talented kid. I got a guy that, you know, ball hog. He can do a lot of things, man. How do you feel about what he said?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Because he said, you know, you went crazy on him at Mississippi State. So he feels like he owe you. Now you get them twice. A lot of respect for him, you know, being out there, you know, obviously he didn't get drafted in the first round of a nut. he'd be able to do it's supposed to doing things like that. I mean, for me, it's kind of like, you know, him, me being able to do that and him just still, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:26 having that, like, okay, this is the guy I want to go against things like that. Let me know I'm doing something, right? You know, guys, you know, kind of putting a target on me. But, I mean, a lot of respect for him. Looking forward to it, you know, I caught him when he was a young pup, he was a freshman, so, you know, looking forward to, you know, him being more polished, going against him. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Oh, yeah, yeah. See, that's what the thing about it right there. People might take that as a negative thing that he said, your name or not. But honestly, that's like one of the biggest compliments you could get with a guy that's young and he could have said. Devante Adams, you know, Keenan, you know, we got your Jets and you got your,
Starting point is 00:24:00 he got everybody else. He could have probably could have been saying the name, you know, that being had their name established in his lead. But you don't wrong his bell. Like he's like, I need to get Smitty. I need to get active on Smitty because I ain't let this shit go for the whatever he went for you. What you went for 200 or something?
Starting point is 00:24:14 203 God damn 203 203 I'm not your dough I'm not gonna answer I'm coming in your house because I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 00:24:26 DK gave me about 150 160 on that night in COVID year and look here I'm ready to get on the plane went on to Seattle me you need to talk
Starting point is 00:24:36 like I don't know what you had against me but you all the way you want to get me a hundred and fifty on national TV on we don't own the game playing so I understand that
Starting point is 00:24:46 I understand where you're coming from because a dude gave me one 50. So, and you're talking about 200, you gave him 50 more yards. Ooh. Yes, man, you had to see me every day. I'm talking about every day and twice on Sunday. And that's a good thing we do see him twice on Sunday. So you got your celebrity softball game coming up. Who are you planning on inviting this year?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Go be surprised? The captain of the other team, we go do Jahan Dyson, receiving from commanders. You know, that's my dog. I love his game. So, you know, he's from around the way. I told him he nice. I told him the nice. Yeah, had to make him, the captain of the other team.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I really ain't, you know, thought about who I'm going to invite for real. I mean, I know the guys on the team I'm going to invite and things like that. But, you know, I ain't really just had a chance to just sit there and think about who I really want to invite. Okay, that's big time, man. You know what I'm saying? That's one of my first time actually doing one of those, too, when you did it last year. So I'm like, dang, man, this kind of nice. Come on, we want to do stuff like that at my hometown with a baseball.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But we do, I do basketball stuff. So that baseball zone was fun, man, the stand, you know, the fans turned out well. You know, I feel like, I'm like, this is fun. What makes you choose softball? Do you got a lot of baseball history? Yeah, I played baseball all the way up to high school. I stopped playing in high school because I ran track. But, you know, I played baseball.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Little League, through middle school, and then high school, I had to choose one, so I just stuck with track. Okay, okay, okay. Because I could tell you had some type of track for him because we was racing that one time. We're not going to say who won, but when you was racing that one time, If you were picking them leaves up, I said, God, damn, it's really fast as shit. You know what I said? So I can see you really getting crazy in the 100 and the 200, you know what I'm saying? So I can see you really going crazy like that because, you know, you got a little bit of torso on all legs.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You know, you got a little small torso and just all legs. So I'm like, yeah, you know, so I can see that. I can see that because I tried baseball when I was young. As the ball just got faster, I just turned around and just left it alone. Yeah, and it got faster after it started going underhanded, so I had to switch it. Soon they started throwing that jump over the shoulder. No, sir, no sir. I can't trust people with my life with that ball.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That ball, he might hit me. And then I'm going to hit him. And I'm going to hit him. I can't just walk to the next base. I got to walk to the, we're fin to see about what he's hands. Like, I think he just don't like me, you know what I'm saying? So baseball, for sure, is probably the hardest sport, for real. Like, basketball and football is nowhere close to baseball.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's nowhere. I'm playing golf right now and I'm feeling the same way like golf is hard as hell to play. But I just like to do it because it's a challenge for me because it's like this is a good challenge
Starting point is 00:27:24 like I feel like football I ain't gonna say easy but it's like so giving it's giving for me basketball kind of giving track all that other kind of sports giving but this golf man I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:27:33 it makes me think all the time I get blow by it if I hit that motherfucker too far to the left I've been watching the Kels the Kelsis you know I've watched them boys podcast a lot I got that they got a very interesting podcast
Starting point is 00:27:42 and I'm here to like I say, I'm here the box for you once again. I say out of 20 games in the NBA, Smith, I don't see you hoop. I think you at least get over 10 points, one of them games. Oh, yeah, for sure. I like my game.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Now, I ain't said he saying you're going to come off the bench and you're going to average 12 out of the 20 games. Not saying that. Nah, no, no. But one game out of 20, Smith, I can give you, I can see you getting 10 points easily. Because I'm not seeing you get to the rack. I'm not seen your highlight.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I don't watch your highlights coming from high. school, I said, with a little mini fro. I said, okay, like a mini getting crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got a nice game. And I'll be saying, you know, Kelsey's saying, oh, we can't switch over, that, and that. Some people can switch over, but I'm not
Starting point is 00:28:28 saying we're going to switch over and be the best at what we do. But you give me 20 games. I'm going to get 10 points, one game, at least. You know what I'm saying? Not all 20, but, you know what saying? You feel that way? Yeah, I love my chances, man. I'll tell you, I'll say I love my chances too.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I would just have to make sure. I just had to get that out because I've been here. I've been sending out all on Twitter. Everybody keep R-in my hookah, who can switch over to switch over. Those boys can't switch over here. No, some guys could, like, you got to put like a Russell, rest of the road. Guys, that's his sports.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But you're not going to put McGee over here, you know what I'm going to do. I'm just calling out people, guys. Like, he after that he's on the court, but he come out here. He ain't, nah, they ain't going to work even. You got certain guys, for sure, Brooke, I feel like job be all right over here. Yeah, job be right. Yeah, job be all right.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, job be all right. He'd be decent. Most of them, ain't no load management in the NFL. You're not getting none of that. You're going to get out there. You're going to practice. You're going to play in the game. I'm talking about all week.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Not just, just, just, uh-uh. And you ankle hurting a little bit. All right, man, get you about five reps, come out of practice, dot, but you're going Sunday. You know, we go get you to go Sunday. So you just going to make sure you get your rouse and all that kind of stuff, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Hell, them boys ain't load management. Oh, come on, loads manage what? The loads manager's going to be just in the tubs. Load the tubs, though. So that towed up for the water and ice, get ready to go. Last one of the day, man. How do you feel about going into this season? I know you're real, I know you're feeling real palsy.
Starting point is 00:30:00 You understand the lead. You know, I take care of your body. You understand what's very, very much expected, you know, from the organization and then the team. So, like, how do you feel about going into this year? Like, this is your year three. This is, like, really, when guys kind of, like, blossom. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like I'll blossom in my year three. That's when I first started like traveling as a corner and, you know, started actually getting called Big Play Slate, even though I was getting called Big Play Slay all through the year, but mostly doing Detroit media. You know, I want to Big Media, but next thing you know, year three, start traveling in the Travel Corner. I'm Big Play Slay now.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You know what I'm saying? So now, how do you feel about going into year three? I mean, I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited, you know, my dog just got paid, you know. He's rich. Now, look here. That boy, no, he could share that.
Starting point is 00:30:47 He could share that thing 10 ways with us, you know what I'm saying, and still be big time rich. You know, that contract basically made him half owner of the team. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:58 This is half of my team now. Mr. Lory, I appreciate you sharing this with us. You know what I'm saying? We're thankful for my boy, Jalen, right now. We're good for him. We're good for him. For sure.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know, he just got paid. So, you know, ready to, his expectations only going to, go up now with that. I know he's ready for it. So, you know, just putting in the work with him, AJ, the rest of the offense,
Starting point is 00:31:18 the rest of the team looking forward to that. And we play some good corners this year. We play some dogs out there. So, you know, I'm looking forward to it, man. You know, I'm always up for the challenge and things like that. So, you know, tough schedule, great schedule. You know, a lot of players be made.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Oh, yes, sir. I know there's a lot of it be made, man. But, yeah, y'all do guys a little tough battle, man. I got a tough receiver court, too, bro. I don't look at the schedule. I'm like, God, damn, I got. We got Wilde, Cheetah, you know, we go to DK, Tala Lager,
Starting point is 00:31:45 they just dropped another corner receiving the first round. We got him, a little kid from Ohio. The AFC stacked over there with all the receiver and stuff. Now they're bringing these over here or not, you know what I'm saying? So again, it's going to be some games going, man. It'll be some nice receiver DB core kind of battles, man. So y'all know y'all go have your challenge. We're going to have hours, but of course, we're going to conquer.
Starting point is 00:32:05 For sure. Man, I appreciate you coming on, man. We got to get ready to set the basketball session up, man. so I go out to get my buckets on folks. So that's what we got to do when I get back there, man. So, man, you have a good day, have a blessed one, take all the Alabama stuff off, and start really put some Mississippi State stuff on.
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