The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Big Play Slay - James Bradberry on Super Bowl penalty vs. Chiefs, Eagles Schedule, Giants revenge

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

Philadelphia Eagles CB Darius Slay interviews his teammate and fellow cornerback, James Bradberry. The Eagles CBs talk about the Super Bowl loss vs. the Kansas City Chiefs and break down the Eagles’ recently-announced 2023 NFL schedule, including a matchup against the Giants on Christmas Day. Slay asks JB about his journey from Arkansas State to Samford to the NFL, re-signing with the Eagles, and the top quarterbacks and wide receivers he faced last season. #volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Volume. What's up, everybody? Man, it's your boy Big Play Slay here, man. Of course, I had to bring on my guy, J.B. A.k.a. two-time all-pro. Call them an all-pro. 20-go player. You know, second-round pick out of Sanford.

You know what I'm saying? This is what we do. I'm a second-round pick myself. You know, second-round guys are really the guys in the draft that really be going to get. But as we see here, man, my boy is here with us right now. What up, J.B. What did it do? You said you have me on, brother.

Oh, yes, sir. I've been waiting. Come on. I've been with you. You know I got to bring my counterpart. I was wondering when you was going to have me on. I got to say you for the best one. I got to say for the best one.

And this is the best time to talk about a lot of great stuff right here. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot going on. And I'm here to give you the most confidence of all the comments right now off the jump. Being in my here one year with you, by far the best dress. on the team. I'm gonna get it. You smitty, Fletch be fresh,

Lassambia on point two as well. But I gotta give you to you, man, because you're the most clean fit dude on the team, man. I'm talking about for all the clean more fit. No jury really just smooth with the watches. Plain shirts. I don't know how you're clicking. You kill a plane James.

I don't know how you doing, man. You've got no kind of designs on your shirt, all kind of crazy much to be plain. I'm like, I got to steal this from J.B. It's a must I still have swag. I'm stealing it. I'm got something this year from my, I don't know, told my stylist.

already, that'll be making my clothes a little bit sometimes. I said, look, yeah, I need to find a way to get dressed up like that. Hey, I still do ideas all the time. So, go on and do it, brother. What I do, I just sit back and watch. I see something out. I try to stick to my own style. You know, I just know, I'm not going to wear something that I feel like doesn't look

right on me. And that's why I just try to, you know, cater to what my style is, bro. And that's how I keep it like that. And I appreciate the compliment, you know. Oh, man, hey, man, you be fresh now. You do be fresh, but let's get it to it, man. So as you see, I talked to my boy Smini last week. He said you're the one of the toughest horns he went against

before you came an eagle. How you feel about that? Yeah. Man, I appreciate that. Now I remember playing against him when I was in New York, for real, for real. Yeah. And I remember watching a film of him. I just could realize, like, how quick he was in the ice brakes.

You know, he was also, he was slender. So, like, my whole mindset when I was going against him was just to, like, be physical with him at the line of scrimmage. And I'm glad it worked. against them because obviously you got good things to say about me. I mean, it did work good because I watched you now. You know, I watched you. Now, he's a great receiver himself, man.

And I can't wait to see what he do this year. Because all right, he did a whole bunch last year. And I know. I can't wait to watch them boys this year. Yo, yo, those boys are going to get it again. You know what I'm saying? They're getting in it. They make us who we is, you know.

Even though we was, you know, we was destined to be great anyway. Don't boys just put a stamp on it with them two coming over there with us. And we get to compete with them. boys each and every day. That shit be hard as fuck. You know, boys be hard. Third piece. Huh?

30 piece. I told you. Hey, you know, hey, you know, the office put up 34. That's what we always say. Put up 34. And we got a good chance. And that's what they're all right, man.

So, so I don't know. Hey, J.B., they don't know. But I don't know if people don't know. Like, I mean, I don't know if you remember this day. Back when I was in Detroit, right, and you was over there in Carolina and you was going against Kenny you and Kenny going in and we walking in to the tunnel

and I'm like hey two-fold hey you're nice I love your game I don't know if you remember that because I did I didn't remember that yeah because it's your fourth year getting your contract I said boy you're nice I've been watching for a long time man because I just like to watch Julio who go against

Julio and I watched your tape one day I'm like who was this dude up here like putting his hands on Julio like this like I haven't put my hands on Julio like this so I'm like hey let me see what this boy doing? So I've been going to started watching a game ever since then. Like, it made me become a big fan. That's probably like year, probably year three. And I saw that.

Yeah, I think that was my, um, my third year. Yeah. I definitely remember that moment, bro, because that definitely gave me some, um, I wouldn't say I needed more confidence, but you definitely, like, words coming from you and I watched your film and you was like, you were snapping. You know, I thought what you was doing in Detroit. And much respect to you. Um, you wanted the top corners in the game.

for a long time in my eyes, to be honest with you. So I appreciate those words of encouragement, and it definitely helped me out alone the way. Man, what? I appreciate the word right there. You know what I'm saying? People don't like to give me my credit with credit to do, because I'm a quiet assassin.

That's all to do. I don't talk a lot. I just go out there. I just go put the product out there. You know, I just go work hard, play hard, have fun, join the game. So with that being said, you know, how the world just come back around,

like, we're a duo. Like, how do you? you feel about that, because right now, we argue the best duo in the league. And, like, it's up there. It's up there. You see it right there? It's settled. It's nice.

It's nice on the wall, bro. It looked nice on the wall, yeah. It looked nice on the wall, and we looked good on the paper, and we look good on the film. So we just look nice at everything we're doing right about now. So I'm feeling it. You know, I'm loving it. I was concerned.

Definitely when you got into the free agency, I was like, well, look here, man. Hey, Howard, we got to, I don't know what you got to do, but you got to find on the way, your J.B. You know what I'm saying? Cause, hmm, my job was up 10 times easier. You know what I'm saying? Easy. Easy.

And we got to run it back. You know, I felt the same way. So, you know, I had to come back. Oh, yeah. It wouldn't have been right if I'd have worked for a world. So I had to come back and build my dog. You know, keep this. That's what I'm talking about.

You know. Gotta keep the door together. So, man, I'm going to tell you what I'll learn from you. You know, as in my one year with you, but just watching you play. I always know watching you play before we got here, but being hands on with your eyes and just watching your work, you probably the most patient dude I saw the line of screaming.

And I'll be learning like, dang, how can you do that? Your kickstep a lot different from my kickstep. And, you know, so I'll be watching you. I'm like, man, how he do it like that? Because I got a step twice. You don't have to step twice. You can step once. And then you do a little, sometimes you little jump back into it.

Sometimes you step and you do what you do. You know what I'm saying? So that's one of the things I learned for y'all. I'm like, man, I need to learn that from J.B. Because he's way more patient than him at the line of scrimmage. But, you know, I'm just getting very athletic. So my question is, what do you learn for me and when you watch my, when you were watching me

and practice and stuff like that? I mean, the craziest thing about it, I was going to kind of say the same thing. You're pretty patient at the line. You don't really get up pretty pretty. Yeah, I'm pretty patient. I'll be, if I say, I'll be watching you, though. You'd be like, dang, that joke are nice with that jump.

And also, like, but watching you play and, like, watching you and practicing stuff, like, some of the stuff that you do, I can't really do. Like, even that little, that double move in Houston. You know, the ball was incomplete. He never caught it.

But like the way you got in, out of your break and was able to keep up with Buddy. Because Buddy definitely ran a four or three. So, I mean, the fact that she was able to do that, I'm not even going to try to do that because I can't even do that. So. But that's why I was, like, I learned,

one thing I learned from me at the line was to always be patient when I'm at the line and always bring my hands with you. Because you do a great job of doing that because naturally you quit. But you definitely do a good job to bring your hands with you. and also being able to open up with it. Because a lot of guys can't really use their feet while using their hands and then counter it. Even if you miss, you're able to get out your hips

and then keep running. You know, a lot of guys aren't athletic enough to do that. And when I'm at the line, I try to be patient and use my length and I try to remind myself, I got a big frame, so this guy got to get around me. And I'm also going to bring my hands with me. So you got to get around my hands too. And if I miss, I miss.

That's true. You just run up. Hey, people don't, this is one of people don't understand. about playing DB, right? This is what they don't understand how much patience and how much it goes into being like a very, very successful DB man.

I'm trying to, I'm trying to tell folks, man, it's by far the hardest position to play. By far the hardest position. And so, so man, I got I got a big thing with me with my pre-game rituals. I got to like, I listen to slow music all the way to the stadium. Like R&B, 90s music

all the way to the stadium. But as soon as I walk through and get on the field and I touch the field, I switch over to the rideway, and I'm going crazy when I'm warming up. So what's your, like, you know, what's your tradition?

You know, what music you like list to with pre-game? It really depends on my mood for that morning. Sometimes I wake up in a better mood than others, you know, and I list just like some old-school R&B or like, more like a mixture in between R&B and rap, like Kate Camp,

like that. Okay. On the ride over to the on the ride over to the stadium. And then usually by the time I'm at the stadium, I'm usually turning on some future, some code at. I might list to a little NBA young boy, a little bit of that. I like yo-gadi, boosting.

Of course. Of course. Goochie, man. You know, those all get me in the mood to go play football and go be... That would get you in the mood to do a lot of things. Hey, look. I got to go out there and be violent on feel so I got to go listen to Sabala before I go out here. My boy said I got to listen to something maybe get a little active right now, you know what I'm saying?

Oh man, I'm out here listening to struggle music and I ain't even worried about it getting physical. I'm like, man, I made it. My mom made it. That was out of it. I feel you know. I can't be too relaxed out there. They're going to try to come get you. I can't remember someone ever having so many go balls throw them in the first like five

or six weeks, bro. I was so bad. I was like, bro. I know my boy hamstrings on fire right now because that's the whole question about the whole thing. Everybody always asking 24 run, can 24 run, can J.B. Run. Can J.B. Run. So they kept putting the fast guys over there and just run go balls, go balls, go balls, go ball. I said, and I always come over there and check her. I said, Jamie, you're good? And we was in the middle of game. You're like, Slate, thank you for checking on me, bro.

I said, really in the middle of the game like this, J.B. like, yeah, I'm like, you're good, bro. But, like, it was, that was probably the strangest answer I've heard about somebody giving me in the middle of the game. Like, I'm like, you're like, thanks for checking on me. Like, I can feel your pain, bro, because I remember me as a rookie, man, look, yeah, I'm getting go balls. Throwing on these left on and right. And I'm talking about it. It'd be so tiring, though. They bring the fastest dude in there that can't do nothing but run.

And you're like, and you know what's coming. It's just like, all right, let me do my technique. You try to lock in on your technique. kind of do all the stuff that's perfect. And that's thing, you know, it's just a straight spring. You said, bro, I should just get out into three-point stanchions and said, go. For sure. And I remember what I know a game you're talking about is one playing the Phillies because

they was trying to get me. They had one thing in mind was going to get either non-rock or double moves on me. But yeah, I appreciate that, though. I do. Because before then, of course, you know, but on the other side, he was trying to get after me a little bit. Yeah. And then Chonsie, Chonsie came over there talking.

so then they got them even more rowdy. So I was really trying to calm them too down. So they were trying to attack me. And I held my own. So at the end of the day, that's all I. I complete admission. That's how I'll tell you right now. I think that was kind of like, you know,

besides the picks you made, I think that game really, you know, so fit or like basically saying like, you can't just throw the goal balls on me because I'm going to play these motherfuckers. Because you was like, I'm talking my, I'm about at least 12 of them.

I'm talking about at least 12 of them. I'm talking about letting it go. I'm talking like, you getting every double move in the book, every double move. And I'm like, say, let me go pray for my dog. They'll go check on my boy real quick. Hey, J, be good. That boy said, man, thanks for asking. I'm like, I'm just going to be like, yeah, you're good.

I thought you're going to be like, yeah, I'm good. I'm like, no, that boy said, thanks for asking. I was like, this is too funny. Like, I never met nothing like that. But, man, I was one of our greatest moments of all right there for me. I'm always going to remember that. Like, I'll never go forget that play. Never go forget that.

Hey, I won either, though, because I appreciate it. Because of course, like after every play, everybody looking over the daffing you up, trying to hype you up or whatnot. Yeah. And I know you know my struggle right now. You know what I was going. I know it, bro.

I see it in your face. Like I'm just saying like, I'm like, bro, Todd. And I'm talking my coach over there, press call this, press call that. I said, shit, I know J.B. Let me check on my boy, man. Let me check my boy.

I ain't need nobody trying to hype me up, I'm good. I'm ready to play. I just need somebody to see if I need a bottle of water or something. Hey, boy, need that boost. Come on, man. Need that speed boost. They're going to trip in there.

But, hey, that holds you down, man. I think that's when people gave you with respect and stop really trying you with them go balls. Because we ain't seeing too much after that because it's like, okay, he's holding it down. So, but that was a big issue with me. I'm like, dang, why they keep trying my dog? Like, he ain't been in a probo and leading in PBOs and all kind of crazy stuff.

Right now, we're damn show leading in the PPU area. Me and you, just me and you. Like, damn, we probably had a hundred of them right now together. So we, yeah, this is, this is, come on, man, y'all, y'all witness and greatness right here now, 200 people use within two people right here easily, you know what I'm saying? And over like 40 picks. This is crazy. This is crazy now.

So what did you do after the season, though, how your body was recovering? Like, what you do for recovery? Because I'll be watching you, you know, every time we practice, you always kind of like get a nice little lifting. And you know what I'm saying? You get a lift in. I see you get a stretching. I know we got the massage therapist at the facility. like your approach to practice and after practice is different from how I do.

You know, I'm saying after I practice, I just, I just get stretched out and whatever. You like to, you know, live, then get stressed. So, like, what the living part do for you with after your practice? Yeah, I think another reason why I've been able to play, you know, this long is also because I've been available, you know. I haven't missed any games for the most far other than that one year when I'm doing a COVID year. Right. But typically, you know, I just try to, like, warm up my lower extremities. That's a big word.

to my thighs and hamstrings and calves. Yeah, see, I already you just said that instead of using that big long word at first, I don't even know what that word was. My little, little toes and all that. I just try to make sure I wake up all that before I get out there, my shoulders and whatnot, because those are the main things that I'm using

when I'm on the football field. As far as, even when I'm at the line of screen, I use my shoulders. And, of course, I play DB, so all I do is run. So you got to make sure your legs are strong. Facts, that is. When you do all that cutting and whatnot. You and me gotten in somewhat the same.

I'm a little louder. you know what I'm saying, but you're very sneaky funny, like, but you're real funny, funny. Like, people don't know how funny you is until they meet you, but you're very, very sneaky funny. Like, I'm loud and funny and all that kind of stuff, but people always ask me, do I talk trash? I said, no, I don't got the time to talk trash because I like to chase folk. And me knowing you who you are, I'm probably sure you don't talk trash, but I got to ask, do you talk trash? Because I ain't over there all the time. I don't never really see you really kind of getting into it, nobody. So, do you talk trash over that?

No, bro, we don't talk trash, you know? Most time I'm trying to, like, listen to other dudes talk trash and see what they're talking about. That's how I am, bro. They make me laugh more than anything. And we don't have been at all. Come on, man, we've been with Johnson. Chonson talking to all the trash and hearing him telling somebody else

how sorry it is or whatever. It's by far the funniest thing listening to because he don't stop. And I lost to love it. He talked enough for the whole secondary. So it wouldn't no need for near one of us to really talk like that. No, I wasn't even going to put no name on it. But yeah, he definitely did. I was talking for me.

So I just listened to him. I try to break it up when they got too far ahead. Boy, he was good most of the time. He was good. He was good. You know, he always liked to get it forward. I'd be like, Chonson, man, get him. Get him, Chonson.

He chancel. You know, let him have it. Giving them work, man. It's too funny, man. It's too funny, man. But we needed that, though. Because every team I, every team I've been on, we have a guy like that.

you know, it always works to your advantage because, I mean, football is also like, it's mental, too. Yeah, it is very mental because I don't see somebody really tanked after somebody told them they was trash and they started actually playing like they was trash. Hey, it happens. It does happen because you get ugly out there quick. Man, I'm curious just to understand a transfer protocol because it's way different than it is now. So, like, I saw that you transfer from Arkansas State to Sanford.

How did that go? So, yeah, when I was going through the transfer, for ordeal, it was different because of course, if you went, so I went to Arkansas State, which was a D1 single A. And if you transfer to a D1 single A, you had to sit out for a year. But if you transferred down to D1, D1, AA, or D2, a D3, you wouldn't have to sit out.

So I knew that when I was committed to Arkansas State because they wanted me to play safety. I didn't really want to play safety, but I was going to try it out. Because I played corner in high school. You already know. You already know. That's what I realized when I got up there,

when we started doing inside here, and I used to take it on this tight end every day. I was like, bro, I'm not doing this. I don't want to do this. I'm going to go put a corner. I want to take my chances out there, for real, for real. So I went to Arkansas State, got redshirted. And I told him I wanted to transfer, like, after my first semester,

actually, like, around Christmas, like, after that, you know, after that first semester ends. But they persuaded me to stay. So I stayed for the spring as well, I went through spring, and I still didn't want to play safety after I went through spring. So I was like, man, I'm out of here.

So they let me go, and I went down to D1 AA at Sanford because I knew I wouldn't have to sit out. So I went there. They had a spot for me. I kind of knew it ahead of time before going there that they was going to have a spot for me. Through talking to my high school coaching and whatnot.

So when I got over there, you know, they put me out there, had to fight for a starting spot, and I went out there, made some plays, and I was, rest of history. Okay, so the question is, do they give you a, you know, a full ride or anything when you transfer like that? Or they're just like, hey, you got to earn a scholarship as well?

It all depends on your situation. For me, when I went off to school, when I went to Arkansas State, my coach had told me, hey, if you don't like it up there, you know, you can always transfer down and you'll be able to play. So if we have a spot, just reach out to me or whatever, and we'll see. So I reached out to him that first semester. and he told me he had a spot.

And really I could have dropped the ball waiting around for that second semester because my spot could have been taken. But fortunately for me, they still had a spot when I decided to transfer there. So they had a full ride for me. So I made sure before I went there that they had a spot for me.

Got to, hey, that's, hey, boy, you sound like you contract talking. Got to be full of guaranteed. Got to make sure they got that before you leave. I know some guys that were planning on leaving, like I was planning on leaving. or either, like, they either got hurt during that spring training or either they went somewhere and they didn't have a spot for them.

And now they don't left for school. And the school that they left, they spot them got taken over there. And now you just asked out. At the ass out. That's a crazy world right there. I ain't ever experienced no transfer like that. So I just had to hear from you as well. But now that you don't transfer into Lee,

you come into a division at the time that has some dolls definitely in that prime. You had like Julio, you know, getting drafted to the second round of Carolina. Then you had, who you else had, Mike Thomas. You had some, you had some, like that division. And you had, you know, Mike Evans. You had some guys coming in. And you as a young corner, second round, which they're looking for you to play today, not no tomorrow.

They want you to be that guy today. Like, how did that develop with you in the NFL? Like you said, they want you to play today, not tomorrow. Right. So I remember getting there, like, right after I got drafted, and I remember going through OTAs, man, like, we had more practices and stuff. Way more. Yeah, it was more like a training care practice, for real, just when I passed.

I remember the ones went up, and me, I'm not expecting to be in the ones, because I just got here. What they called out? They called out the depth trial. It's like, Brad, man, bro. Through me out there. The speed, like, just, I had to get used to the speed, for real, for real, for real. Everything happens so much faster. And everybody, like, knows what they're doing, you know, instead of,

because at first I was just playing off pure ability. And I wasn't really studying the game. And I really didn't know a whole lot about the game in the NFL offices and stuff and how they scheme. And also defense either. I was trying to learn my defense, too, when I got into the league. But over time, you know, after being around good vets, like Luke Kee Klee, Thomas Davis, all those, like, smart guys down there, Carolina.

Being around those guys for so long, you started picking it up. And I would say just having good vets. definitely helped out. Would also me, like, also taking the time and initiative to go, like, study film and, like, try to get ahead of the game. Oh, man, that's good. That's what's up, man.

How does it feel, bro? Like, I've been hearing all the crazy stories about Luke Kikili. Like, everything been saying, like, oh, he called out plays. He knew every play before it started. Like, I was blessed to play with some great linebackers, but, of course, not Luke Kikli level.

But how was that? Because, like, you know, he had a short career, man, because he, by far, was one of the best linebackers that ever played his game. If he continued to play, definitely. but even in his eight years of playing, he still go go down as arguably one of the best

linebacks that ever played. So how was it was playing with him? I mean, it was great. It was like he made up for a lot of the rookie mistakes that I had. Like all those, like just being around or being, you know how it is. I already know. Yeah, now that I'm older, I got to make up for like whatever rookie mistakes that happen in front of me and I'm responsible for that.

But, you know, he was a great leader in a great bit. And he also knew the game so much. So, like, he would like, he picking off the seven route. when we're in fire zone off number three, like he's picking up, he picking that off. Easily. You're not supposed to do that as a middle lineback. You do not?

That's what I'm saying. Like you're saying it. Or, yeah, he running with Julio and we in quarters are covered two as the middle lineback. He's running over Julio down the middle. I saw that. I saw that. I saw that.

He's doing stuff like that. And I always getting tacked up for losses, like all the time on first or second down. You know how that put the offense behind and then put us ahead. Yeah. And he goes straight to the. because people don't understand. He got a lot of picks, too.

He got a lot of picks. Like, bro, bro was really like that, you know what I'm saying? At the time, definitely him and Bobby Ratner was competing for the best lineback in the NFL at that time because those two there was just light years ahead of all the linebackers playing. But, man, I just couldn't experience that. So I'm like, that's crazy, though, because I never had a linebacker that had that much command.

Like, he got a lot of command. Like, usually a team with every team I've kind of been on, and it ran by, like, D-Lyman. So linebackers are all just, you know, they're good players, great players, but, you know, they just feed off the D-line. So I ain't never seen nobody actually had to feed off the linebacker, like back in the day like Ray Lewis and stuff like that. So, man, it's good. What? Lou Keighley.

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and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.

His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.

And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.

Like, after you go through a training camp with that, IZE, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. blessed off season for the both of us. We both just got paid.

I'm tomorrow. Big blessed. Big bless. You know, we both just got paid. Both of us signed a three-year extension. So, you know, we plan on kicking it together for three more years. You know what I'm saying? You know, we both did. So how do you feel about your extension, man?

And what do you think about going anywhere else? I definitely didn't want to go anywhere else, to be honest with you. But, of course, it was definitely a thought of mine. Because we're ready to see what it is. And you got people like trying to come get you. and the Siamu Saly-U-Sah team. And I just felt comfortable being with the Eagles. You know, we had a great year.

Of course, we got a great offense. Being around great players like you. Oh, and, yeah, all the de-linmen that we had, it was a blessing to have all those guys. So it was kind of hard to leave this situation, to be honest with you. I mean, I didn't really want to. Hey, the situation is set up pretty nice.

I ain't going to lie bad. If anybody didn't know football, with the D-line we had, you playing corner board, that'd make your job 10 times easier. I'm talking about 10 times easier, you know. So if you out there playing corner, man, go find guys that know how to hunt the quarterback

because that's what I deal with the line do. They love to hunt. And when I say hunt, they see fresh blood out there. I'm talking about lions, you know. So the boy's going to get it. They're going to get it, man. So this is the biggest, one of the biggest questions of the day, man. Who got snub more?

Me, me not making all pro or you not making pro? Oh, that's a big question. Yeah, what's you, what's you think? Let me get your opinion first. This is what I say. I for sure. This is what I think. My personal, my personal opinion.

We both should have for sure made pro all pro. Pro bowl for show too as well. So because you had, what, three picks by 17 PPUs. I had three in like 14. So we both were playing at a very all pro level, for sure. I know Pro Bowl is a boating thing, you know, some votes come involved in it, for sure should have made the pro bowl, you know, but

man, but who got snowed mode? Man, I'm saying who got snowed mo is because I respect the all-pro stuff way more than Pro-Bos, so I'll say, I'm going to say I got snow-moose for the All-Pro because All-Pro is what you want. You know what I'm saying? Pro-Bos cool and all, but once you get that All-Pro on your name, that's a whole other level.

You really, I'm telling me, I couldn't wait for the first time I got the All-Pro, I was ready to put it in my bio before I got the Pro-B. You know what I'm saying? All-Pro-D. You know what I'm saying? It's a different level. It's a different toll. I get it.

It's a different total. I agree with you, bro. I agree with you because you can interchange those. You know, you can put me pro board and put you all pro. Yeah. I'll be straight. That's how I thought it was going to go, to be honest with you. I thought we both were going to make it all the all pro list.

I'm like, come on, man, number one past defense with the two best, you know, duos. You got a bit, you know what I'm saying? We were going crazy. I don't even, I try to think about it. So when the stuff come out, I don't be disappointed. Because when the pro bowl stuff came. out. I thought about it for a little minute and when my name wasn't on it, I was kind of disappointed. But I was like, you know what? They can't, they're not going to take two ds from the same team.

So that's how I looked at it. But it, and then all pro came out and I was on it. I ain't on. I was like, I was thinking like, oh, man, we probably will be like the first one since AJ, uh, AJ Boya and Angela Ramsey in like 2016. I forgot about that. I thought like, I mean, we're going to be the first duo to make the all pro list because there's no way we're not going to make it, bro. Because we did. They should have us both on both on them. Yeah, bro, you know, I'll be paying attention.

I'll be paying attention. I'll be paying attention. I'm like, dang, man. It should have, it would have been nice, though. It would have been nice. It would have been nice. Man, it's been three months since the Super Bowl, man. Have you watched it?

Because your boy, I did. So have you watched it? And, like, do you realize still, like, reflect on yourself with the holding car? Because I know that was tough, and I was hurt for you. because I know how you feel about the game. I was like, damn, bro, I know my brother's, you know what I'm saying? Because we know how the Eagles fans go beat.

You know, you know how they are. It don't matter how good he played all year. It's all about how he played today. You know, so I was like, you know, I was way more hurt about the fact that, you know, that was you want to play then play been made or anything. Like, they could have scored or whatever. I promise, I read her the brother just scolded on us than get the holding call. because when y'all saw your face,

he's just like, you know, it's a big disappointing. I was disappointed myself because I'm like, dang, man, like, I want this for my dog. I don't want that for my dog. So, man, how you felt about that play since then? Yeah, I really haven't watched the game. Of course, I've been asked about it. People talk to me about to play all the time.

Of course, looking back on, I would have rather them scored. Tell me, I would have them scored too. Rather them scored and commit that file. But, yeah, it happened. So that's how I think about it. You know, it happened. Yeah, that's because you understand holding a problem. Yeah, I don't plan on it happening again.

Nah, that ain't going to happen anymore. To all my Eagle fans, that's mad at me. I don't plan on it happen again. So please forgive me. And I try to do better next time. Hey, but as a DB, look, fans, as a DB, we hold every play, really. They just call it when they want to call it.

And they call it on certain folks. And, you know, so we hold every player. I hold every play. That's what we do. You know what I'm saying? Unless we play an off-band or something, and if we get something jumping right, repress, we hold it. Unless you beating us clean.

So that's a much. I'm going to hold you. I don't care. You could flag up and flag down. You know, I think I got a lot of respect to the rest that kind of let me just play. But I'm for sure, hold you. There's not even no doubt about it. Sure.

You know, I wish I would have made it look like more like hand fighting, because usually they don't throw the flag if you make it look like hand playing. True enough. They do. That's right. That's right. You know, that's something I can learn right there, fellas. If you're a DB, you just heard something about the DB mount right there.

Sports fight a little bit. They're going to let it go. Let's go back to a little bit of last year, man. Who is the hardest receiver you cover, including the Eagles, though? Including the Eagles? Yeah, including the Eagles. I'll probably go with Smitty. Mm-hmm.

You got to put it in Smitty and AJ first. The first team. It's automatic. We're not going to be. That's automatic. That boy, Justin Jefferson, had some juice in a few reps. I was lined up on him, but you got out the game.

That boy got juice. That boy got juice. That boy got a lot of juice. Like, he jet for a reason. He jet, jet, for a reason. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Trying to think. Buddy from the Redskins pretty good.

Number one, Dotsie. I like his game, man. He's one of the little rookie nights, man. He nice and smooth quick. Got a little, you know, a little sneaky burst on him. He's nice. I like his game.

I think going against CD round with the Cowboys. It's always a tough battle. Yeah. He got some wiggle. Terry McCorn. Terry, you know, yeah, Terry, Terry, nice. Terry nice.

You didn't get to see Terry this shit. Like, I had one to get Terry. You got to tear, so. I had to have tears as Terry fast as shit. Fast as shit. Come on too fast, man. I don't know. I like, brother, need to slow down.

And, you know, he good for a lot of go balls. I'm telling my, I'm like, damn, bro. How many go balls are going to run today? bro. Can you like run a stop today? Can you please? Nope. He want to keep on running to like he for his gum out the tunnel. We're going to tell our post safety about that before next year. Easily, hey, man.

Hey, hey, you see Terry over here, just slide right here because since he wants to run these go balls, just a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, get him off him for a little minute. Hey, I'm talking about to tell you and just make him look twice now. By that time he looked twice, he sat. Sat, come on. He good and sack now. Hey, you know what thing that quarterback's like to do?

chuck and duck. So, Chuck and duck. Come on, man. I like them ducks because I can catch the ball like that. I catch the duds.

It's hard for me to catch the spirals. I catch the dutch. And be with a hand in your face. Dang. Okay, so when I was talking about these quarterbacks, chucking and ducking,

who was the toughest quarterback we played this year? Who do you think? Well, I go with Pat Mahones at first. Of course. He was pretty tough. He was pretty tough.

Mm-hmm. He was going against that. That was tough. Yeah. He had his game for sure. He played well. I can't get us. Oh, we did play that right.

A-Rod. That's a, that's a, that's a game, re-snapped. Oh, we went crazy. You know, we got a big time pick. I think he was done. I think after that pick he was done. Ooh, that kind of hurt him. That hurt us harder a little bit.

I'm mad at it. I had a chance to catch your pick, and I can't get the Aaron Roger ball. I need an Aaron Roger ball so bad. We got a chance this year, though. We got a chance this year. Yeah, a lot of games, we started off fans. Started off, start on high.

Put it, minted in the buzz. pretty soon, pretty quick. Come on, man, look, we were probably up, like, what, 13 picks and, like, the first, like, five or six games? Crazy. And folks just stopped throwing the ball. Folks just stopped throwing a ball. Trevelois was, straight.

He was looking good on film, but didn't rain. Didn't it. Come on. And look at it. That rain was cold. That was the coldest game in the middle. Like, it wouldn't even like. Blessing from the Lord.

That game was wild. That could have really put up, like, they could have put up, like, 30 on us. quick. They had a nice offense. They had put up about 50 the week before. I said he was going to put up 30. We weren't going to let them put up 30. We're going to let them put up 30.

They were going to let them put up 30. They was capable of it. Then I had it went out earlier that game, too big. I then about broke one goddamn arm with that damn cold weather out there. That cold and rain is. That jump was crazy. I'm like, come on. They almost put me in the tent.

They almost put me in the tent. You saw that the tackle get me? I thought. Hey, J.B. He smacked you. They had, they was hunting them for you, though. But the thing I'm saying is, though, why are you even avoid the man? You see how big it is.

I see you try to give him a little move, but you're like, I'm going to try to set this edge or something. You got to think about it. It was already wet and, like, slipper out there on the field. So I had to get my feet right to set my angle to see the screen. By the time I got my eyes inside, he was already up on me. I couldn't back up. I just had to let him do what he do, huh? Do he do.

He did what he did. But I forced them all. I forced him back inside. I did. You did your job, now. I did my job. I need your job now. One thing about, hey, corners.

Look here. They don't already made it too hard for us to, like, protect ourselves from these linemen. So I'll be, I get linens warnings. I'll tell them right now. You got one time to try to dog me into the ground because I'm going to take my fine. I'm going to hit you riding your knees. I ain't playing you. Because arguably you don't care about my life right now.

you 300 plus pound, I'm about 180, 190. So you don't care. And now we got all this metal on with these pads and his helmet. You can try to hit me. Uh-uh. Not slade. I'm going to give you a good old cut, and I'm going to take my fine. Ref, Commissioner, you hear from the horse's mouth right now.

You see me get a dog on film by a lineman? He's getting cut the next time he pulled. And I'm ready to pay it for sure. But it took it easy. told me though. He didn't do me the way buddy from the Cowboys tried to do me. I owe him one. Because he tried to hurt me for real, for real. Because he already caught me slipping on it because it was a pool play and I was coming to set the edge. Came through. I was coming this way. They took me up out of there and he kept going. That one I'm told my like you can't,

you can't keep going, bro. Come on. You already got me out the way. That's all. You already bigger to me. Come on, bro. And they wanted to fight that. Come on, man. That's like, that's like, that's like fighting, come on, bro. You're fighting big old apes out here. It's just a list of guys I need to talk to. So, man, so how you feel about the schedule, man? Do you like it? Like the schedule, because it's a real schedule, man.

I see that first week, man, we got a Sunday game. Then we play Thursday, Thursday night. So, man, the schedule kind of, you know, kind of crazy. Then we got a tough stretch with a lot of robbery guys that consider the game as robbery. I don't consider the game it be robbered. because a team switch up every year. So I don't know how have a team even become a robbery before the season start besides your guys that's in your division.

But guys are trying to have robbery problems outside of the division where you've got a whole new team. You got a whole new, whole new, whole bunch of new faces on the team. And now you try to make these dudes come into some world with some beef mess. They weren't even involved in it last year. So that would be the crazy part of me when people would be talking about what team they don't like the most or whatever they don't like this. I like, man, it's a whole new team.

How you don't like this? team. It's a whole other team than it was last year. This team might be more chill, maybe more quiet, maybe just like the whatever. Some teams might be good as hell one year and ass a second year. So you can't want to beat with an ass team. So it'd be worried to me. So, but yeah, things, do you like the schedule though? Do you like the schedule look tough for sure, but you got one of the hardest schedules this year? No, it's definitely a tough schedule. And really, if it was up to me, we only play like 12 games and then we'll go straight to the playoff.

Hey, tell me about it. That's the same thing I feel about. Yeah, anything over this 12th game, I don't really like. Hey, but I'm going to play. But I'm also looking forward to our division games because, you know, I was taught to embrace, you know, the culture. And I love being a part of Philadelphia Eagles and the culture. So I'm looking forward to that Christmas game against the Giants, you know.

Hey, look, you know how I feel. You know how I told everybody. One thing about it is I don't tolerate too much disrespect. And once you disrespect one of my dogs, definitely I got so much respect for, you know, you have to address type of situations like that. So, you know, I'm always looking forward to any time we play the Giants. I don't give it them, if I ever come a broadcaster or whatever, every time the Giants come on TV, I'm probably going to bring your name up every time

because I still to this day won't understand how in the hell arguably your best player was on defense, but, you know, of course they had that D-Limon, was crazy. You know, he's going to get paid big bucks. but if it's from you, from him, then it's you or it's you, then him. So I don't even know how they let that walk out of building still to this day. And I'm still thankful that they let you walk out of building because, you know, I want to be able to play with you. You know what I'm saying?

I've just been knowing from the outside looking in. Now I know you like, like, you know, we locked in. So I'm thankful they cut you, but I'm told it like that's really totally too much disrespect right there. So I ain't like that at all. But, you know, with us being one of the dynamic. duos. There's a lot of great duos out there too as well. I got Jalen Ramsey, you know, and Xavier Howard, you know, you got a Stefan and, and we got another Trayvon. You know,

you're saying they got, they got some guys out there, you know, you got the boys in Tampa, you know, so we got a lot of duos going on right now. And I'm looking at the schedule. It's a lot of duo receivers we got to see, too. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of going on. So I'm looking back now, you know, Dallas. They got cooks and Citi, you know what I'm saying? We got Mike Evans, you got Godwin. They're Buffalo, too. Buffalo, too.

Buffalo. If I'm saying, we got Buffalo. You know, you got digs. You got, Seattle. Come on, man. We got Seattle. Jets. Jets, too.

Then we know, look here. I got one game circle for show. I got to be mind-focused, laser-focused. And I can know for a damn sure I got to be a best and I'm already ahead of the game a little bit because I watch your gang one time against this person. So I know we like corners as like the matchup or whatnot in the third. I watched you last year, no, two years ago against, you know, in Miami, Wado. So, you know, I saw you on water going at it. And look, it'll be Wada and Cheetah, me and you, you know, they got

Ramsey over there with that. That's going to be, that's going to be a head honcho match. You know, you're saying you got a nice du-over receiver. over there. We got a nice duo Cere over here. They got a nice dual cornerbacks. We got nice. So as us, as a fit of those views, we got to put our foot first. That's the game I'm really looking forward to, you know what I'm saying? Because just for the excitement,

you know, and I love to compete and all that stuff. Because we got a chance to see them all in training camp like I did because, you know, you sat out of but I was tired of sense. So them boys was nice. And man, that's going to be very, very, very interesting right there with

with head on, head on collision. best good on good, you know, the best duo receivers, and they feel like they're the best duo receiver. We feel like we got the best duo. They feel like they got the best cornerback. We feel like we got the best cornerback. So that's going to be a matchup. I'm looking for it, man.

I don't want to know how you feel about that matchup coming, because I think that's one that's going to be the biggest one. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a high power game. I'm hoping they're not. I don't want them to have a lot of points. I don't want them to have a lot of points, but. For damn sure. They're going to put up theirs just because they got the explosive power with a

Waddle and they got heel and they got a pretty good quarterback. But yeah, like you said, man, we got to put our foot down. That's going to be a statement game for us because they got a powerful offense and defense now. So hopefully, hey, Adelama is going to be hunting. So I know they ain't going to have too much time to throw the ball. Hey, because look here, dumb boys running. I'm talking about running.

I don't know witness, you know, witness cheetah. Go to a little, you know, a little limp and thing. And people was hating on them. Like, oh, man, he was like, he's running against nobody. First of all, when this man to be coming from football, from a whole 17 game season, including playoffs, to go out here and compete in a track event and make it look that easy.

Just tell you how fast the guy is like. The man is amazing, man. The man's a gift. Of course, he's a Georgia boy, so I got to represent my Georgia boy. Shout to the cheetah for being a Georgia boy, man, and that talented in the old sense, because that's what we do.

We know we're probably the best state in football in all sports. Just throwing out there, J.B. I know you from Alabama. Y'all really don't got too much going on out there besides hunting. and, you know, and all the kind of crazy stuff. You know, y'all just little, I ride through Alabama a lot.

The only thing I see is trees and whatnot, so I don't know. I feel you. But if you take Atlanta out of Georgia, y'all are just like the same state. Alabama and Georgia are the same. You might be right. You might be right if you take Atlanta out of it. We're very similar. Very similar.

You're about right, though. You really make sense right now. You do you can see that. That is. That is true. That is very true. You threw Mississippi in there? I know.

It's a different. Yeah, man. It's been fighting words right there. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty funny, man. That is funny. But, man, I know, man, be honest, man, how really, how really fired you on you be playing the Giants, though, man?

Because I know that pick mean a lot to you. I mean, the playoff, because definitely in the playoff series and knock them out. And we've been three-old against and how, like, like, how do you really, really, feel about them, like, when we play them guys? Because I know it would be deep because I got a big, you know, I feel a different way whenever every time I play the, the, uh, the, the, uh, So how do you feel about when you play them boys? I mean, I knew going into the, like, both of those games,

like, we were pretty good. Like, it was kind of hard to compete with us. So I wasn't really worried about the game. Honestly, I just wanted to go out there and make my plays. And fortunately, out of three games, I made my play. I got my pick. So whenever you get into your broadcast journey and your career, and you start mentioning me,

they're going to always throw up that video of me catching that pick and going on like this. Yeah, everything. time, every for ever. And I'm telling you, I was like, I don't know you just don't understand. When you caught a pick, like, I know you already had our mind, you know, we made up the celebration where we're going to do when you catch the picker. We knew you were going to catch them over to sooner later. And, you know, y'all went down there and did your little celebration with the, you know what I said? We did it. I'm saying, I'm over there talking mad shit to

to their sideline. I said, yeah, yeah, and y'all let them go. Y'all crazy. So I'm, then I look at down and feel like, oh, shit, I put him doing a celebration. Damn. I'm trying to run down there. I don't fuck up and missed the whole celebration and shit. But I was just, you know what I'm saying? That shit made me feel so goddamn good. I was talking so much goddamn shit on that side of line. I was like, yeah, what the hell y'all thought letting J.B. out the building, huh?

Huh? And I just, you know what I'm saying? But I missed the whole celebration. And y'all got a whole-ass pitching. I don't miss the whole picture. So I'm over there blow. They need to get my picture and be talking shit, you know. One thing you're going to do when you play for the Eagles,

you're going to play for the Giards. So we're going to play them again next year, you know. Oh, you know, that's one thing I know. and I got, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to talk some more shit. Might as well since we got there. You already, all right, hey, I'm going to know what to get up out of here, man. So, man, it was good for you to come on, man.

I appreciate you coming on. You know, man, shout to my boy, JV. We're making time to come out here and talk football with your boy, man. Had a little fun, man. So I appreciate you coming on, man. Hey, I appreciate you having me, brother. Anytime, anytime. Anytime.

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