The Herd with Colin Cowherd - CeeDee Lamb on Cowboys expectations, being Dak's No. 1 receiver, loss to 49ers
Episode Date: June 22, 2022Dallas Cowboys wide receiver CeeDee Lamb joins Mike Silver to discuss his new role on the team and whether he expects to get some extra attention from defenses this season, Dak Prescott's request to h...ave CeeDee's locker moved next to his own, Lamb's Draft experience during a pandemic, and his account of the controversial ending to the 2022 NFC Wild Card Playoff vs San Francisco 49ers. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well, I remember back leading up to the 2020 draft, I got a text from an offensive
coordinator from a team looking for a wide receiver in the draft.
And the text just said, C.D. Lamb.
And I was like, yeah?
And he's like, have you seen him?
I want him.
This team did not end up getting him, which I'm sure that team regrets.
I won't name them, but they took another receiver, and that's the way it went.
Anyway, we are here on Open Mike.
I am really, really excited to welcome a guy named C.D. Lamb, who in two years has already
established himself as a force in the NFL.
And now, Mr. Lamb, you are officially a number one receiver.
Yeah, that's allowed to take in.
It kind of happened so fast, but I feel like that's a situation I'm ready to take on.
What changes for you?
I mean, we all have our labels.
You've been performing like a number one receiver anyway, but now Amari Cooper's gone.
It's a new receiver room.
How does that change your life?
Honestly, it just, I kind of, in a sense, raised the standard.
obviously I hold myself to a high standard already,
but obviously at this moment,
there's nothing else you can do
but kind of take it on, you know what I'm saying?
So that's the energy I have.
Are you expecting to get a lot of extra attention
from defenses?
At some point, you know,
obviously I feel like, in my opinion,
that I haven't done enough, you know,
to just have defensive coordinators
like want to kind of aches me out.
But, I mean, if I've grabbed that attention,
And then, I mean, you know, we'll figure it out.
Where were you when you found out that they were trading Coop and what was your reaction?
I was actually in a gym and I saw it.
It was on TV.
I was working out in Fort Laudea in my all-season program and I saw it on TV.
I was like, wow, that's crazy.
Right.
And then my phone started going out literally minutes after.
And then it's been a crazy story ever since.
Did you know it was coming at all?
No, not really.
It kind of caught me by surprise.
Did you and Kupke start texting each other pretty quick after?
Most definitely.
I just wanted to thank him for everything that he's done for me in the first two years.
You know, those are really important to me and kind of my direction and kind of trying to find a place in this league where there's a lot of great receivers.
and a lot of guys, you know, who do a lot of things well in this position.
So just giving him, you know, his roles is just for taking me under his wing and kind of, you know, just being a better receiver.
You've already had one big change.
Dak Prescott requested that your locker be moved right next to his.
Right, right.
What does that symbolize?
Or how did you take that?
Honestly, you know, as a plus, you know,
what's better than being by, you know, the QB1,
just building that foundation.
Obviously, I feel like me and him,
we kind of want to be in this together for a long haul,
so just just going in day in and day out,
any conversation that we have in practice.
I mean, it's easier to, you know, talk to him.
He's right there, my neighbor.
So I feel like it was a great move.
I wasn't expecting that either, but, I mean, you know,
a lot of things come unexpected.
unexpected.
What kind of locker neighbor is he?
Is he like neat?
Is he loud?
What's he like?
No, he neat.
No, we take care of the locker most definitely.
Take care of size or respect boundaries.
You know how it is.
He probably got a lot of stuff to sign.
So I don't know, is he one of those guys?
Does he have like two lockers?
Is he one of those guys?
Yeah.
A lot of people have been crushing the Cowboys this offseason saying they got worse.
You know, we talked about it.
Cedric Wilson's gone.
Randy Gregory was gone, that he was back, that he was gone again,
and obviously Lail Collins.
You know, is it as bad to you guys as it seems on the outside?
It's never going to be as bad as it seems on the outside.
I mean, I feel like the Internet is an amplifier
and kind of want to go where everybody feels comfortable with their decision.
I mean, we lost a lot of guys, yeah, but I feel like as a team,
I mean, the bond is still there.
We still have a lot of guys from last year.
Granted, we miss all the guys that we let walk.
But, I mean, you know, it's growth at some point.
You know what I'm saying?
And I feel like this year, most definitely,
we took a lot of steps in our OTA season, mini camp.
I was just kind of trying to build character, build the chemistry.
I feel like in that department, we're a lot better than we were last year,
considering obviously COVID and everything.
but now we can physically be more active
and just be around each other more than our season.
I mean, you still got Michael Parsons, I feel like.
Start with that.
That's my boy.
Do you, was there a moment when he arrived
where you were like, oh, like, you know,
we didn't see it until the games, obviously,
but when did you know we were talking about a guy that good?
That was all the way training camp.
Like I said, I was running like a post route from the back side.
and they were like in cover two, like a Tampa two look kind of,
and he was all the way to that middle third.
And I was like, wow, bro.
That's impressive.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a linebacker running.
That's a lot of ground to cover.
And that actually threw the ball.
So, you know, that was at least 40 yards worth of ground that he had to cover.
So it was kind of crazy.
Wow.
And then the day after, he had to go rush.
I was like, wow, yeah, you're like that, bro.
You got it.
How did the past play go in that,
trading can't play. Did you catch it?
Nah. He got, he got, he got, he got lucky on now. That was one of the one that I,
that kind of, I let slip through with him, but I mean, he's not going to get so lucky this out.
This training camp, he better watch out. Yeah, I mean, as good as he is, I don't think that's
like the blueprint is to have him on you downfield, but you'll take that.
You've already had a very eventful NFL career. You've had two prolific seasons. You made the
Pro Bowl. It began under strange,
circumstances we were in a pandemic and you know i'm sure you grow up dreaming you know draft night i
would have out on stage in my suit and have my moment um how different was your draft experience
from what you'd always expected it to be it was very different you know a lot of different you know
like detours um had to kind of like cancel the the main draft
Couldn't meet the commissioner, you know what I'm saying?
Just like the small things, couldn't see the fans,
the different types of fans in the stadium,
just representing their teams.
It was like the small things about the draft
that you kind of wish you had.
I mean, granted, you know, the ultimate goal
was to make it to the NFL,
but obviously I still wanted to walk that stadium.
But, I mean, to see other guys, you know,
able to let a dream.
And then for me to actually still be here
regardless of me walking or not,
I mean, I'm very content with just being here, you know.
So very different, I must say, obviously doing everything virtual on a screen, you know, talking to a video camera is a lot there.
Tell me what that moment was like when you got that call, you know, knowing you were going to be a cowboy.
It was surreal. Honestly, I just knowing, I honestly least expecting me to stay in Texas.
So like I was kind of like prepared to move or go wherever, you know.
So just having that, that was kind of the first thing that in my mind.
still home. And then now I play for America's team. It's actually kind of crazy because I have a lot
of Cowboy fans, family members, a lot of Saints fans. So it was like a bittersweet moment for,
I mean, not for me, but for my family members, it was, you know, it was a proud moment to them.
Well, I know for like America, it was a trippy moment because if I recall, you had the phone
in one hand, but then the other hand reached over and repossessed the other phone.
Yeah, that's me.
That's me.
Is that just one of those, like, instinctive, like, I got to have my phones?
It was forced to have it.
Force to have it.
No one's definitely.
How many texts did you get after that from your people?
Oh, man, I had to turn my phone off for, like about at least a week, literally.
Was the one phone that you were talking about?
Was that like a special draft phone or a special call?
Yes, that was a draft phone.
Yes.
And then the one I was on, the other one that I already.
The other one was your normal.
Okay, good.
Is that the one you still have now?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
All right, cool.
That's what we're talking on right now, the famous.
Yeah, maybe the most infamous phone.
Yeah, maybe the most infamous phone in the history of any draft.
That's crazy.
They'll put it in Canton one day, hopefully.
It'll be, uh, it'll be beautiful.
So speaking of going to Canton one day,
I was in D.C. last fall covering a football team at the time, Chiefs game.
And then I was out watching the night game and, you know, having some food, having a couple beers at an outdoor bar in D.C.
And your game against the Patriots was going on.
And I was just like, oh, man, you know, he has arrived.
You'd done some really good things, obviously.
but that was a he has arrived game.
Most definitely.
What do you remember about being in that zone
and that experience?
Kind of just being in an atmosphere like that,
it just wakes up, you know,
your inner personality.
And I feel like for those who really love the game,
I feel like they know exactly what I'm talking about.
Your will to win kind of comes out a lot more
of it kind of takes over just attitude.
And in that moment, obviously,
it don't get no better.
than a night game, a day game that turns into a night game.
I mean, it was a great atmosphere.
I have a great prestigious coach on the opposite sideline, you know, and Bill.
So I'm just like, man, this is an opportunity that I can't, you know,
I can't just let slip away.
So just every opportunity that I got or every time my name was called,
I knew in my mind that I wanted to make that play.
So regardless of the situation, I wanted to win.
Was there ever a time during the game where it tripped you out where you're like,
That's one of the greatest defensive coaches in the history of this game.
And he can't stop me today.
Growing up, I have a high school friend who's just like big Patriots fan.
And that's literally all he talked about.
And I was just like, it was crazy to actually have the opportunity to plan against him.
And it was just, like I said, it was a surreal moment for me.
I couldn't believe it.
And like, after the game, I literally like went to my locker and sat down.
I was like, wow.
Like, we literally just won this game.
Like in overtime.
And I had to walk off touchdown.
So it was like, there's a lot of things in the process, and I'm in the NFL.
So it was, like I said, it was, you know, it's a real moment for me.
What's your friend's name, the Patriots fan?
His name's Kobe.
Did you text him first or did he text him?
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
I said, did you watch a game?
Did you watch a game?
I hope you liked it.
That's what true friendship is tested because he's got a root for you, but it's his thing.
Exactly. It's his favorite team since forever, honestly.
Do you remember how he replied?
He was like, yeah, I watched the game. I'll talk to you and we can get home.
That's it.
He needed some time.
Yeah, he didn't. He wasn't trying to hear it after the game.
All right, we've talked about the highs.
Now you know I've got to hit you with the lows.
Playoff game against the 49ers.
You know, you guys had such a great season.
you're at home, it didn't go the way you guys planned it and you had one catch.
You know, how do you look back at that game and what went wrong?
Honestly, I feel like we hurt ourselves just with penalties, honestly,
like negating every opportunity that we have to get a momentum more.
Like, you can't in a game like that where everything matters,
you can't really have one of the most penalized games that you've ever had the whole season
and expect to win.
So, I mean, in the back end of the game,
I feel like we started to kind of fill it out,
but it's too late against, you know,
a team that's very experienced
and a team that's just now making it into the playoffs.
So they're playing with a chip on their shoulder.
I feel like now it's all about just being, you know,
united and just playing together
and sticking to, you know, the code.
And by that, I mean just playing football,
I'm making routine plays in this league.
It all matters.
That's what I picked up from that playoff game, literally.
Every play, right?
Every little play, yeah.
Well, let's talk about the last play
because it's been talked about a few times since then.
You know, the decision to have DAC just run it up the middle,
it caught them off guard, and it gained a lot of yards
and set up one shot at the end zone,
but it had to be time perfectly,
and the ref, you know,
might have hesitated for a second there.
Yeah.
Didn't work out.
What, take me through that.
What, you know, how did you process that?
I'm not going to blame the ref,
and I'm not going to blame the play call
because the play call got us to where we needed
with time to spike the ball.
And the ref, you know,
did what he did.
But, I mean, the game ended how it ended,
but, I mean, I felt like it could have been a little more.
you know, I don't know.
I feel like time management could have been, you know, a little better.
But I feel like in that situation when everything just moving fast,
the urgency of the referee to touch the ball, like you know you have to touch the ball.
We know you have to touch the ball.
I mean, we only have time to do this one time.
You know, we can't really go back.
But I feel like that's just an unfortunate situation, you know what I'm saying?
Just getting caught up in the middle.
Were you surprised by that call because it was kind of
unorthodox?
I was actually kind of surprised by that one.
And then not to mention,
I want to say the job before that,
I think D.Law had like a strip fumble,
but they didn't call. I think they called the runner down.
There was a lot of the things that could have went our way
in the back end of the game, but I mean, it shouldn't have came to it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I guess you can beat the drum any kind of way you want,
the game into high-end it,
and I feel like we could have played better.
I feel like it got worse when Patrick Mahomes with 13.
13 seconds to go somehow managed to get them in a field goal range against Buffalo.
That didn't make it feel any better.
13 seconds to school.
I mean, that was not normal either.
That was just...
That's tough.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's Patrick Mahon.
I feel like, you know, maybe Von Miller got paid even more based on that because the bills were like, all right, we got to figure out the way.
We need a rush.
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Speaking of money,
since I segueed there,
I'll just do this now.
I mean,
receivers are getting paid this offseason.
It's been crazy.
And in the case of Devante and Tyreek,
they went to new teams to get paid.
You know,
we've seen Debo, Terry McLaur,
and A.J. Brown went to a new team.
Do you kind of keep an eye at all this stuff?
And are you rooting for all these guys
to get?
at theirs. Most definitely. I'm always
rooting for guys
like, you know, in my position,
you know, take in the sense,
raise the bar. Send me standards
for their lives, set their family up, you know, forever.
Set themselves up forever and really just
being able to, you know, extend
the ability to play this game.
So, yeah, I most definitely
taking note of it. I'm watching it.
But I'm not really, you know, too focused
on it at the moment. But it is crazy to see
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I didn't expect to be on the move, got traded on draft night, and you know him very, very well.
He's your old college running mate, Hollywood Brown.
And now he's back with Kyler, who, you know, it's sooner heaven over there, which is cool for them.
I'm sure you in Hollywood, you know, talk about this stuff.
Did it surprise you that he moved, you know, that he was traded to Arizona?
Most definitely.
Really just on draft night.
I kind of had an idea what happened eventually
for some reason just because I knew
that's kind of where he wanted to be.
But for it to happen so sudden,
yeah, it must definitely be coming by surprise.
I saw it on TV just as well as everyone else did.
So I had to make that phone call.
I was like, bro, is this true?
And then my man was, you know, he was excited.
So, you know, to see him smiling again,
happy again, excited to be in the offense,
I felt like he felt like he belonged
there. So I'm excited to see what him and Kenlin do.
I've got to see the boys back together.
Probably the only call he's answering at that moment is from like Cliff or Kyler or you.
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's my boy. We like that.
I love it. Kyler, you know, I mean, it's hard with quarterback contracts are always tricky,
right? And we saw it with Dak, you know, for all those years.
How do you see the Kyler Cardinal situation playing out?
Honestly, I have no clue.
I don't really talk to K1 about his contractual decisions.
But, like, I mean, I don't see him leaving, is he?
And I don't see them, you know, really just getting rid of him for anything.
I feel like he's raising the ball for them.
And then things he's done in the past two, three years,
I feel like we've been all in the right direction.
And, you know, I hope he gets paid.
That's all it is.
By the way, you have a knack for playing with really good quarterbacks.
Maybe there's a connection.
But, you know, you had Jalen, you had K1, and oh, yeah, you had Baker before that.
Baker is caught in a tough situation there with, you know, now Deshaun is the man in Cleveland,
and Baker's kind of hanging out there.
You know, do you feel for Baker just kind of going through the realities of the business?
Most definitely.
Just because of, you know, the position he was in and, you know, the direction he was headed, obviously everything didn't go as planned.
But kind of seeing him where, like, business is business.
And you have to understand that.
And I feel like in a sense to where, like, I mean, you just take a step back and look in the mirror like, hey, I just got to be a better me.
And, I mean, you know, I wish the best for him.
You know, I play with him.
That's my guy.
He had a whole, you know, like, year with him.
I'm excited to see where he's headed.
I think I saw something about him going to the Panthers
or something about something like that.
But, you know, yeah, I'm looking forward to him, seeing him out there again.
Yeah, I'm sure he's sitting there going, man,
I played hurt all year with a bad shoulder.
Right, absolutely.
So I know you guys wrestle with that stuff all the time.
You want to be tough and you want to be there for your team, of course.
Right, right, right.
But no one's going to have sympathy if it's like, ah, you know, he was.
Especially if you're doing it bad.
Right. Against really good when you're doing it good.
Against really good opponents. Yeah.
Exactly. Exactly.
It is a tough league.
So I was the first outside sports journalist, I think, to go into New Orleans after Katrina.
It was a experience I'll never forget. I was with Deuce McAllister.
It was then a star running back for the Saints.
My favorite.
Yeah. So some Salvation Army officials took us in a couple days after, you know, and I've written
and talked about it a lot.
I'll never forget some of the stuff I saw.
You were living there and you were, I think, six years old at the time.
Yeah.
And had to relocate like so many other people.
You know, you end up in the Houston area.
What do you remember about, you know, that crazy experience?
Really just a lot of wind and rain.
Start seeing, like, when I looked outside my screen door one time when I was younger.
and I just saw like a tree branch just kept flying by the door.
And it was crazy because, I mean, I wasn't there throughout the whole Katrina,
luckily.
I happily made it out.
My mom and my dad, they both moved to Houston.
But like the little that I did catch, it was, I mean, it was crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
It was scary.
You don't really know how it's going to end up.
You never know how your house is going to, you know, go down.
Or if you're going to be safe.
So just kind of, you know, saying a prayer and just hoping that you get through it.
And then I think you had Hurricane Ike coming a couple of years later.
Three years later, literally.
It was crazy.
And then and there, I was just like, are we going to the hurricanes at this point?
Like, it was crazy.
We had leaks in the house.
I think Hurricane Ike and Katrina was kind of literally the same.
They were terrible.
Yeah, right.
For a little kid, you're like, what is it about me that is attracting
Hurricane Hurricanes or something.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I missed, I missed Katrina.
Like, I literally, like, I caught a little bit of Katrina.
And then I caught Ike, like, I was in Ike.
So it was like, I couldn't run it anymore.
Did you have to kind of like hunker down during Ike and ride it out?
Absolutely.
In our apartment, in an apartment with five of my brothers, four of my other brothers and my mom.
It was great.
Whoa, did you have enough food?
Not really.
I mean, we had enough to, you know, make it through a couple days,
but, I mean, we had a shelter for real.
And it was, and the water was coming in?
Yeah, it was leaking.
It was leaking through the apartment, the ceiling.
It had, like, the living room, the living room floors were wet.
The entry of the door was wet, the carpet was wet, the sofa was wet, like, all in the living room.
It was crazy.
It was wild.
Yeah, most definitely.
Wow.
I'm glad you made it through that.
I hope your hurricane career is over for the foreseeable future.
No more.
I don't want anymore.
So I've seen the stories about how you got your nickname.
It sounds like a youth football coach decided he wanted to shorten it.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was like stretch lines.
Did you roll with it?
Were you just like, okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yeah, let's do it.
Does anybody call you Sedarian still?
My mom.
My mom and my grandmother, both of them.
That's it.
I know if they're mad at you, you're going to get a Sedarian for sure.
Most definitely.
You might get the full name if that, you know.
Man.
You don't want that.
Never want to hear the full name.
I've read that your mom drove you 45 miles each way to practice when you were
kid for one of these teams.
You know, and I'm sure, you know, like you said, you have a lot of siblings.
What does that kind of sacrifice, you know, say to you about her?
It was crazy that she was able to, you know, that she was willing, not able, willing to risk it.
You know, her being tired.
She's working at 9-5 at a medical center.
I used to see her wake up, catch the bus.
I used to drop her off at the bus, and then I dropped the car back to bring my brothers in school.
It was crazy, yeah.
Like, we made most of what we had.
It was, you know, I mean, that kind of made me who I am today.
And, you know, my mom was able to do what she's able to do today, you know.
And I thank her for, can't thank her enough.
But when 45 minute, you know, drives to practice, you don't forget them, the naps in the backseat were amazing.
Yeah, you got to catch sleep while you can at that age.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Are you the quietest member of the 88 club?
Most definitely.
100%.
100%.
Because I was going to say, I know Michael Irvin very well, worked with him for a long time, covered him.
I know Des very, very well, not quiet.
And I've gotten to know Drew, who I watched as a kid.
They will all fill up a room.
Yeah, how's it feel being in that club?
Really just an honor.
Just going into the facility every day, it's kind of seeing and seeing my name next to the
Jersey number and understanding how valuable it is to this organization and to this, you know,
to this team is, I mean, it's fulfilling, you know, very excited for, you know, the things that's
that's been put in front of me, the obstacles, the achievements, all the above.
But it's really, honestly, a lot because I feel like it's, you know, it comes
with a lot of expectations. It comes with a lot of, you know, cherishable moments. I mean,
it's your choice to fulfill it, you know?
When you got drafted, were you immediately thinking, I'll do 88, or how did that come about?
Honestly, it would make sure of two numbers. It was 88 to 10, and then we was talking to Jerry,
and then 88 was the number. Jerry understood the power of 88?
Most definitely, most definitely. And just really all the
really the moments.
I feel like everything is like a lot more enhanced.
And, you know, it makes you feel like you have to be a lot more responsible,
honestly, in my opinion.
That's, you know, that's what I take it out.
Did Jerry kind of give you some of his business expertise in that moment when you're talking about it?
Like, trust me, I know a little bit about branding.
Nah, nah.
He ain't really give me, he didn't really give me that.
But it was, you know, it was a nice little, I wouldn't say back and forth.
but it was a conversation that needed to be had
and just understanding the situation
and the position that he's putting me in,
I feel like it would be better for my future.
I understand you had a chance to hang out with Odell Beckham
in the preseason before you played.
I guess you guys played in Canton
and you were hanging out in Cleveland,
getting ready to play Pittsburgh.
What was that experience like?
You know, just getting game.
I'm always, you know, picking brand.
from the guys that's very experienced
and guys that I actually look up to.
So building the bond was always big on my, you know,
big on my list, just the way he plays, the way he carries himself.
A lot of people looked at him as an icon.
And his impact is most definitely felt on and off the field.
And then I was just asking my different questions,
like, how does it feel, how to add it pressure?
And then, you know, if it's pressure,
I mean, it's no pressure if you're doing something that you really love.
And I kind of got that majority out of the whole visit.
That's cool.
So basically, like, embrace this because you love it.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's kind of cool.
What other receivers, you know, past and present have you really, like, modeled yourself after or just kind of as a fan gone, man, I really love that guy's game?
Of course, Devonzie Adams.
I like Cooper Cup a lot.
of course.
And then in the past, it's been, it's been, I like Reggie Lane.
I like his game, most definitely.
I like Pierre Gasson, but just different guys,
the different bites I've seen how they maneuver
and how they move around with the ball in their hands,
blocking, right running, you know, just kind of taking parts of their game at
and smart.
Well, from everyone I've talked to, you are a number one receiver,
but you do not have number one receiver tendencies, I'll say.
And I say that affectionately,
because I love the number one receivers who kind of, you know, are loud
and give me the ball, you know, brash guys.
But you seem to be, you kind of have, you know,
you're an alpha in your play,
but you don't seem to have a lot of diva to you.
Why not?
You let your play do to talk.
If you really are a baller, I feel like you can only talk so much.
You can talk yourself into a game.
You can't talk yourself about one.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm big on action.
I don't really do too much talking,
but I can most definitely go get you a couple touchdowns.
Have you gotten any compliments over the last couple of years
from like NFL dudes you're going against?
Or who you kind of went, whoa,
like this guy really is appreciated my game in a cool way?
Yeah, I was talking to Jaylon.
Jaylon Ramsey, that is.
Just talking to him.
I think we saw each other
I mean, before the Kenton game,
like in the joint practices and everything
and just seeing him, all that was kind of built up
and just having the opportunity of going against him,
even in practice, you know, I'll take advantage of every moment,
you know, lining up across him, seeing him, you know, picking his brain.
I mean, he liked what he saw.
You know, that's a compliment to me.
Obviously, being young at his age.
I'm in his game and I understand it.
Like, I belong.
I'm trying to make you feel up.
But, yeah, I can play here too.
That's pretty cool.
And then obviously, he goes up against Cooper Cup and practice.
He's got some good dudes over, you know, Robert Woods was there.
Eventually, O'Dell, and he's had Brandon Cooks.
I can't remember if he had Brandon Cooks overlap.
But yeah, that's pretty cool.
Would you draft yourself in fantasy this year?
Would I guess?
I think we could just leave it at that.
I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not one of those fantasy experts, but it seems to me like you're going to get targeted.
I mean, Dak didn't move you over next to him in the locker because he's not targeting you.
All right. I think that says it all. We got a guy named Sidney Lamb. He is coming to the league. He has made his mark.
He is next to Dak Prescott. He's on a very talented team. We're going to see what it's like now that he's in a
official number one receiver in 2022.
That's definitely looking forward to it.
Thank you so much for hanging out, and I'll see you at a game soon.
Yes, sir.
My pleasure.
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