The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Chris Brown

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Chris Brown sits down with Shannon Sharpe on Club Shay Shay for a conversation that spans both the entertainment and sports worlds. Chris shares stories from his Grammy-winning career such as going on tour with Beyoncé, writing music for Rihanna and not being able to perform at the Grammys. Shannon can’t let Chris on without talking sports; Chris talks Zion Williamson’s girl problems, gives advice to Ja Morant, reveals if he's a better basketball player than J. Cole, and Kyrie Irving being his favorite basketball player. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You own your master's. Yeah. And you were one of the youngest to ever do that at the age of 29. Would you ever, I mean, a lot of you see a lot of artists selling the catalog. Is that something Chris Brown would look to do in the future? I don't think I would because I feel like, as a black artist, that's what we've been wanting forever. What to be able to get that? Get our masters.

Right. So for me to be able to do that and be one of the first young cats to do it, it's like, oh, I'll beat the game. But I feel like I feel like I wouldn't do it at this point because that's something my children's children, children can eat up. All my life, they're grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle paid the price, want to slice, got the roll of dice, that's why all my life. I be grinding on my life, all my life, then grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle paid the price, One slice Got to roll a dice

That's why Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shea I am your host Shannon Sharp I'm also the proprietor of Club Sheeshay And for today

we have a very special edition of Club Shethe We're on the road He's one of the most accomplished R&B performers and hip makers of his era He surpassed Elvis Presley For the most

Gold Certified singles And Billboard Hot 100 entries Among all male vocals in history The first male singer to have 20 platinum singles The first R&B singer in history to own 100, hot 100 hits.

One of the highest grossing African American touring artists of all times. One of the best-selling digital artists of all time. A Grammy Award winner, global superstar, songwriter, dancer, actor, producer, entrepreneur, author, father. Some call him the king of R&B. When they say R&B is Dan,

I see, check this man's reservation. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Brown. Crazy. What's up, man? Man, it was a long time coming. Man, Jack, who's the king of R&B, man? Then you're John Cuis. I'm gonna let him keep that title.

You're gonna let him keep that. You got it. You got it. Bro, how you doing? I'm great, man. Man, you know, before I start every show, I always, bro, I have my own cognac. I brought you, I bought you a gift for you a box. Thank you, thank you.

But I want you to try. Come on, let's get it. Let's do it. Oh, oh, I was about to do that. Okay, come on. You can open if you want to. I'll say that for later. Okay.

I want to be too saucy. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got to get a toast first. We got to get a toast first. Yeah, you're a toast for it. Bro, continue to success. Thank you so much. Congrats on everything you've done.

So much more to accomplish. I appreciate you. It's smooth. Smooth? You like that? That's something you can... Yeah, I don't like when to be like... Yeah, it's easy.

You don't got that burn doing. Nice and smooth. Yep. Y'all heard... You heard the man. Yeah, it's smooth. Bro, how you do it? I'm great, man. I'm great.

Yeah. Man, I really appreciate you taking time. Jaquise reached out and said, man, Chris Brown's manager, trying to get in touch with you, you mind if I gave me a number. I was like, sure, no problem. And I'm like, because you and I, we had talked a little bit before. And you're like, I'm going overseas when I get back and let's do it. I say, this man, because I see he ain't going to find time.

No, I got to, man. I got to. And it would happen so quick because this is like a week. Yeah. I thought you was like, are we going to do it in July and August? He said, nah, we're going to do it in a week. Yeah, yeah. I had to come through because I don't like to skip out on my promises, man.

I know we talked. I was like, now I got you. I said you had, you got me. So let's talk about what you got going on. Before we get to that, basketball. I know you love basketball. Ron Artez said, he believed had you not chosen the music path,

you could have been an NBA player. Yeah, with a lot more discipline. I definitely think I could have pursued it. I really loved it. I still love the game. I play all the time. As far as like training and having to get conditioned, I think I could have did it

and I don't think this profession kind of made me like that. I allow you to do kind of on your schedule as opposed to someone else's schedule. Yeah, so I got to kind of even get acclimated in being a team player. Right, you know what I'm saying?

Because when I hear everybody, Snoop Dogg, I hear a lot of the NBA player that's like, okay, what rapper could like really hoop? I'm talking about like really, really hoop. The first two names come up, you, Jay Cole. Yeah. So one-on-one, who win it? Well, right now, I mean, Jayco, I got to give him his credit because he's improved his basketball game.

Right. I know you work with a couple of other guys that I work with, too, as far as basketball training, but he's amazing. I'm still not going to adopt me now. You know, so I give me like a week of practice, and then I think I got. I love a couple of guys out. Drake, he be hooping, a little dirt. Damn with them. Oh, you're like, if you and Jay Cole, is you and Jay Cole.

I think I'm going to get Jay Cole, though. We can make that happen I love to do that I'm saying it humbly though Because Jay Cole is Because I watch Have to watch both of you guys In the celebrity games

At the NBA All-Star game See you play a couple of times With some real players You for real guy game Yeah if I'm serious about it I play most of the time I try to just have fun But I'm not

I'm not taking the edge I gotta do that How much do we need to put up To make sure you take it serious And we put up 100,000 when to take off Oh no I'm in there That's mine.

I'm taking it. It's my. That's my. So, so Cole got no chance. I mean, nah. Nah.

So if you were I had to say, if you're an NBA, your game, Chris Brown, your game reminds you, me of what NBA player? You know what's funny, bro,

a long time ago. They, uh, when I used to play a lot of my home, they look like C.J. McCullough. Okay. And I was like,

why? Then I looked at some of his high school pitches and then some of his games, like he was, he's long, link, he played like me. So I was like, I mean, I'll take that. Any NBA player I would take. You take it. That's a hard profession to get into. Did you hoop in high school? Yes, definitely hooped in high school.

I actually played varsity on the JV squad, but, you know, as the bring on. But I was always playing with older guys as a young age. When I was like 10, 11 years old, my dad used to take me to the gym and drop me off. I was like, look, I don't care, get in the game. I don't care how old is, get in the game. And I'm playing with growing me in, 27, 30-year-olds. So what's your favorite NBA team? Favorite NBA team, man.

I'm in L.A. right now. I wish my leg is, yeah. I really want LeBron and to really do something, man, and make some history happen. But I'm such a fan of the game and certain areas of certain different teams that it's hard for me to be like, hey, I'm this team all the way, you know, Because it's like, dang, I like, I'm friends with this guy on this team. Right. Him have a personal relationship, so I'm rooting for him.

Right. And then on this side, so whoever wins, the best player win, but, yeah. Who's your favorite player? Favorite player, Kyrie. You like Kyrie? Cairo. He's one of my closest friends to, but as far as, like, seeing him play, being around him, playing with him, like, he's probably one of the most phenomenal guys when it comes to the English on that backboard.

Right. So what do you like so much about Carrie's game? It's tenacity. He's aggressive, but it's graceful. Right. You know, and he's going, and I think he makes other players better. Right. I think he's getting into that consciousness of saying, hey, look, we got to do this together.

So I think he brings out a lot of, a lot of spunk and a lot of real, real talent out of a lot of players that probably already knew they had it, but he encourages that. I know you follow the game closely, so you see some of the trade that transpired. You see Bradley Bill goes from the Wizards, goes to the Phoenix Suns. So now he pairs with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. You see Chris Paul gets traded. He gets moved again. Now he goes to the Golden State Warriors to go with Steph, Draymond and potentially Draymond.

Drey Mons. Drey Mons is an unrestricted free agent. You see Jordan Poole goes to the wizard. So you think this is Kevin Durant's opportunity now to get a ring away from Golden State? I thought it was this time. You thought it was this time. I thought it was this time. But I think it's up in the air.

I think Chris going to... Go to State. Man, that's a good place for him. I just want him to get a ring. Right. I like, Chris's been doing this thing for a while, but I really want him to get a ring. But I think KD is like, you know,

they're going to be coming. They're going to be coming. Would you like to see Chris Paul on the Lakers? He would have been a good asset, but I feel like he would have, you know, there's two type of players. There's the coaches player, and then there's the, okay,

is the militant or the follower. So I feel like he would help and assist in them get it together. Like, you know, bringing them all in and making sure from even from Anthony Davis to, hey, look, we got to do this. Y'all make sure y'all stop this. He's going to, he has that tenacity. So I feel like him and him and LeBron would a, I think they would have paired up. I don't think that they would have class. What about a Cary LeBron reunion?

I would love it. I would love it. I think. Here in L.A. or you want Brian to go to Dallas? No It's got to happen to the LA, huh? Yeah, it got to be in LA. I would love to see them paired up. I think their chemistry is, like, undeniable.

And I think seeing those two guys in motion is just a spark another, a whole other uprise in those guys. So I feel like that's what I want to see. I mean, I don't know what kind of want to do, man, but I would love to see that. I want to get your take on this. You've been in the spotlight, man,

basically your whole life. I mean, since you're probably 12 and 13. Yeah. And you get Zion Williamson, who's been in the spotlight since he's probably 15, 16. Yeah. And you see the issue he having with girls. What advice would you give him? How would you tell him to navigate this situation?

He's in it now. Yeah. You can't turn it back. He has a girl. He has one young lady pregnant. He's going to have, he's welcoming a child. And then you have this other one over here just putting all this business. Yeah.

I mean, it's hard out here when it's coming. I would just pray for us. Zion, man. I feel like, hey, man. Is that what even need of prayer? Just pray and, you know, be the best man you could be at that point. You know, I'm blessed to have three children, three different baby moms. But at the same time, the relationship that I built with them and the energy that I kind of come with is, it's a little bit more. I don't know, I'm my R&B guys, so I'm a little bit more subtle with it.

Is it hard? It's very hard. But you got to also watch out. It's like, you know, we always. want to be in the same spots, the same places, the clubs. We want to be, to this day, I still want to see some beautiful women. But at the same time, you just got to be mindful of the certain company you will keep, or the traps that will will set themselves.

As athletes, I'm pretty sure the guys on the team probably give him real pep talk. Look, you can't do this. Look, this is, you know, but on the road, on our end, it's a little bit different, but I understand what he's going through. So he just got to hold his head. together man. Hold your head big man. So hopefully he's learned from some of the

mistakes that he had made up because I'm sure this social media is a different animal. Man, animal. I'm engaged with the social media stuff but I'll try to stay away like my fans always asking why you never like posting selfies or you never I'm like sometimes I'll just be wanting to chill because you want to get away from that. Yeah sometimes you need

it sometimes you need that piece of mind so I feel like in this area is so easy to contact. contact someone. Yeah. You know, so if you, so even if you, they made it too accessible.

Too accessible. You can scroll down your explore page and you're like, oh man, hold on. And just say, hey, and they hit you back

and it's like, you can say that. Most people can't say that. They're going to say, bye. You can say, how this is like, is this really you?

You say yes. Yes, you got to use that vanish mode. That's right. So that they disappear at the company? Definitely,

definitely. Let me ask you. obviously the John Moran he was suspended for the first 25 games of the season yeah what if if you could see if

if John is sitting right where I'm sitting and you could talk to it what would you say? I mean I don't know what I would say because I also look at my life and I kind of look at it as a mirror with certain things especially when it comes to like being in

shunned in a certain negative spotlight I feel like he's going I mean, everybody learns, man. He's young, but I feel like he's, you know, people make mistakes. You know, sometimes he make continuous mistakes. Right, right. But, you know, I feel like I can't tell him how to write his story or find his path. I would just say, just do what you came in to do.

Right. That's all I can say. You try to surround yourself with as many good people as you possibly can. Yeah. And if you feel somebody is not adding, you have to remove them. Yeah. Have there been a situation where you felt someone was not adding to Chris Brown, but they were taking? 100%.

That you had to like, bro, I'm sorry, but I've got to stop the ride here. You have to get off. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Through the years. Is it hard? It's very hard because you build relationships with people and you have, and you have, like, brotherhoods with people. People stayed, like, when you're on a row, you got people with you every day.

And, you know, some people, I'm a family first type of guy. Yes. But family doesn't necessarily mean have to be biologically. Right. It's not necessarily blood. Yeah. You know, so I feel like I have a nice entourage or a nice group of people now that are for me that understand the bigger goal.

Right. You know, so I think now it was very hard for me because I would hang out with, you know, we'd be with gangbangers. We'd be with the wrong type of people. You would be with, you know, just. Just people that don't go with the life path that you might want to choose. Correct. So I feel like, but, but you kind of start absorbing their energy.

So if it doesn't benefit you, I feel like you really have to kind of like separate yourself. And I was, my children were able to kind of like get me out of that. So it was the kid for you? For me, per se. Yes. Definitely. My kids, because it made me have a real responsibility. Like I could be reckless without what there was no one in the care for.

But, you know, my children were. responsibility. Yeah. So you kind of made me start thinking. Yeah. And that sees what Chris is doing. Yeah. What sees what daddy is doing.

Yeah. So you feel that had you not had kids, you might have been on a different path. Possibly. Possibly. I might have been a lot more careless, careless. Carely. Because I was reckless. I was definitely, I've been reckless when I was young a lot.

You're still young, Chris. You know that right. Yeah. I'm talking about 19, 20, right. I was feeling myself, you know? So I think now I'm able to be appreciative of like, let's say if people like a song I have or people listen to my music, you know what, I really like that song? I really feel it and I'm like, for real, oh, thank you. And it's a real thank you.

It's not like, oh, I, right. You know? So I think my kids made me kind of like see other aspects that were fun in life, but I'm still able to have my career of the lifestyle that I live, but maintain it in a, in a, in a, in a better. better balance. Do your kids make you appreciate more of life? Yeah, they make me appreciate the stuff that I used to do when I was a kid because they do everything that I used to do when I was a kid. So and then being able to talk to them like, my dad would tell me certain things, but there

will be kind of, there will be limitations on it. I feel like I'm just like, hey, let me tell you this because you're going to, because I know you're going to do this. Right. So let me explain to you early. So it's a little different. Like my kids are definitely my friends until I have to be their father. Right.

Like older and I'm like look okay look you can't be doing it Right now right now I'm in the fun stages Right yeah so how difficult is it for your kids Considering your parents didn't have what you have So how difficult is it gonna be for you to rear your kids Compared to how your parents read you The funniest thing for that is that I love the people that I have around But I always tell tell my mom I tell their moms I'm like look

I didn't have none of it It's like, but I still had so much fun as a child. My mom and my father, they allow me to be like. Kids need things, now, Chris, to be happy. Oh, they didn't need things. I spoiled them now. Okay, okay, okay. I spoiled them now.

Okay, okay. But I always joke with my oldest daughter and I'm like, look, I'm going to take you to the hood. You're going to go and learn all, and stay over there with your cousins for a couple weekends. Right. Just so you, just so nothing is handed to you. I want you to understand, like, I want you to be just as sweet how my mother is. is and how my mother instilled in me. You know what I'm saying?

But at the same time, find yourself, love life. And you don't have to follow in daddy. Like if they want to sing great, if they want to perform, entertain business, perfect. But I'm just as happy if they want to do anything else. When you were growing up, let's just say for the sake of argument, you're seven, eight, seven to ten years old. What did Chris Brown want to be? Seven, eight? Man, I'm not going to lie.

At that time, I love music so much, but it was kind of like my own personal, like, okay, nobody really knows I love this music like this. I really wanted to, like, play sports. I wanted to be in the NBA. Did you play football? Yes, definitely play football. Ninth grade, I'm going to be real, like my ninth grade year, I broke my wrist in both bones. They snapped it, boom. Catching a, I was a wide receiver.

But I caught a pass, boom, I'm right at the 10-yard line. My cousin that plays on the other team hits me, breaks my own. He broke your wrist? Broke my wrist. It was done. Cove, how you do me like this? Man, I was like, what's you doing? He was apologizing and everything.

And we went undefeited there. Y'all was so mad. But what happened was it kind of almost prohibited me from playing basketball. So I was like, you know what? I might need to, if I really want to do the basketball, I mean, yeah, I'm going to give the football. Yeah, I'm going to give the football. You know, but I love football, though. Still love football.

You have a team? You have a player, favorite player? You know, I'm from Virginia, so it's a whole bunch of, either redskins or you're the cowboys. Yeah. You know, because we don't really, you know, Virginia, we don't really have a football team. But in my household, it was the redskins or the cowboys,

and they used to argue. Yeah. So you like the cowboy? How do you like, hold on, if you're from that area, if you're from the D.C., the Maryland, the Virginia, you hate the Cowboys. In our household, they love the cowboys. They love the Cowboys.

Yeah, they love the Cowboys. Y'all had to be undercover Cowboys. Yeah, you put big coats on. Big coats. Don't wear the jersey to this game. So 7-8, you're like, okay, I'm thinking really. So when did you start to take music serious and say, you know what, this basketball thing got to take a back seat? I was actually doing music secretly.

Like, I was doing, like, nobody in my school knew that I kind of like did music. They didn't know I could sing in things like that. things like that but I would be in basketball practice I'm saying 7th, 8th grade, 9th grade basketball practice 630 didn't drive an hour away, goes to the studio and be there until maybe I say 3 in the morning and got to get back and go back to

school and you know so I was doing that a while wow but I have met these producers a couple guys that were from the area and I was like no I'm serious about it so you know I was a little nervous because I never really recorded and did stuff like that so my first time actually doing it I was I was kind of

like just wet behind the ears like hey man what are we going to do like how do i do this like am i do i even sound good right but i knew i i had it in me to do it so i just was like this is this is kind of calling me faster than i think the other thing right yeah so but how was it like given so much you're a child superstar and the expectations that come along with that man i was i was kind of still in bliss like when I was like 15 14 my first song came out I was I was kind of like shocked so everything was new so I kind of I kind of had tough skin because I was you know I wanted to I was ready for so where they had to be doing hours and hours of van rides from from the east of the West Coast or you know going to do the Bible Belt doing every all every interview

every radio station I did it was something I wanted to do I felt like I felt like it was my calling like and I'm from a small town So I was like, how did I even get here every step of the way? So I was appreciative. I was ready for it. Did you do talent shows going to go? I think I did one actual talent show. It was at summer camp.

Oh, okay. It was at like a summer camp I did. You better have to won. Oh, I won. Okay, I was going to say, because somebody got bragging rights. Yeah, I know. I definitely won, and I did. It's funny.

I did Thong Song, Cisco. Oh, man. Bro. I had two, like, my little, my little home. Home girl dancers like, I had to be like, bro, I had to have been seven, like seven or eight. Oh. I hope that was at the end of the week camp, but not the beginning of the weekend. They're probably going to see you home.

Oh, no, no. The camp leaders, they laughed, but everybody kind of went crazy in there. And I was like, I think I might can do this. Right. You know, but that was my first actual talent show. I didn't really like, I used to go to the mall and sing. I used to go to the mall. Like, my home boys would go come with me, like the weekend would go drive him to the mall.

and they'll see a group of girls and you know in like the food courts in certain malls and echoes so I was like you know what they'd be like

yo bro just sing and I'll sing Mario I'll sing somebody's song that's hot on the radio Usher song like so

and they would be like hey what's your name and I'm like okay we're good okay we can do this we can do this every weekend let's do it

so you were saying in the mall to get the girls yeah absolutely it worked every time it worked yeah it worked every time

unless they were too grown they'd be like y'all some little boys We can't mess with y'all. So what have you learned? What would the 33, I think you're 33 about to be 34? No, I just turned 34. You just turned 34.

What would the 34-year-old tell the 15-to-20-23-year-old Chris Brown? 15 to 23-year-old. What would the 34-year-old tell him? I would say, I never thought about that. That's crazy. I think I would tell him be humble. The road ahead isn't the end. It's just the beginning.

But be humbling and everything you do. It said you discovered at your dad's gas station. Yeah, yeah, kind of, yeah. So how did that go, okay? Your dad said you had to put the, so did you... Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Yeah, I used to help my dad. I used to go there after school and then, you know, certain people come in. He was like, hey, I'm out. Does anybody in this town like do music, town, or anything? And then I was just listening to the guy. My dad was like, oh, my son sings. And so he basically gave us, like, his contact information. And through him, I met the producers and the people who actually got me to, you know,

get to New York and meeting the record labels. So a lot of that, a lot of that time, that was kind of like a four-year process. But that kind of started it. That's how I was discovered. So, I mean, Teddy Riley's from your area, Timberland, Magoo, Missy, all. You ain't, for real, yeah, you ain't bump into none of them, mate? No, because Virginia's, Virginia's so big. I'm sure, like, Virginia is big and it's different places.

Where I'm from, it's maybe, like, I want to say, an hour and a half away from where they are. Okay. You know, and then we don't have, like, musical centers or performing art stuff that we can showcase our talent. Virginia is really like a sports, you know, estate. So I feel like we were kind of like the

rose in the concrete. Right. I feel like everybody, I think everybody was kind of like, oh, you made it? Man, it's amazing. Right. But, you know, Teddy Riley and all of them, they kind of started it off because Virginia Beach kind of was I remember my mom's and aunts and Man, they're going down there for the weekend.

We'd never be able to go. Rump, shaker. Man, they was going out there probably while and Mama, I hope you won't. but she was you were I appreciate so when you tell your parents

you're dropping out of high school yeah did they say boy you crazy or did they say I kind of made it sound nice I said mama I got this

I got this opportunity I remember being in the phone I was in New York but I was in the record label's office but I went to the bathroom I said mom I really think I got a record deal

I said but I'm not going to get out of school they'll give me a tutor you know you know so I actually finished school. But it took me instead of me finishing When you're supposed to. Yeah, I left it. It took me like two years because I was doing, I was on the road, I was

working. Right. My ninth and tenth grade, I left my tenth grade year and that's when my single came out. Right. So I was supposed to be class of 07, but I ended up becoming Class of 09 because I had to I had to wait. Yeah. Why was you what made you bet on yourself? Why was you so sure that this was the opportunity that was too good to pass up and I'm willing to like, you know what, forego my final two years?

I feel like the dream, I never lost that, when they were like, what do you want to be when you grew up and you still have those grandiose ambitions? I felt like the light bulb was clinking like, hey, this is that. You've been asking for this? This is your action for a goat. And look, look where we are in this situation. Like, my family didn't have money at all. So it's like, I wanted to do better than my whole, like, before me and before for the. Right.

You know what I'm saying? I wanted to be able to say, you know what? I did this out of everybody in my family. Everybody in my town. You know, I saw the opportunity to make it a better opportunity for them and definitely make a better opportunity for my mom. You leave, you moved to New York. New York is really, really different than Virginia.

Yeah. Did it get lonely? Did you get homesick? Did you say, damn, I don't know if I may did the right thing here. You know what? It was fun because because of the freedom. I'm like my mom, my mom didn't know at first because a lot of the times I would go on a greyhound from Virginia and go all the way to Harlem. And I would be, I would be with, I would be with the guys who were in the production team.

And they had a son, he's my brother to this day. But we were the same age. So he kind of showed me the ropes. And he grew right up in Middle Harlem. So I'm like, I was kind of, it was a cautious crowd. It was like, man, I felt so green. Like, I felt so out of it. Right.

And I would speak to people. I would go and see people be like, hey, how y'all doing? That ain't how they do it even going. Like, what the hell wrong? Right. You got me from the South. Yeah.

So I had to really kind of like get acclimated. But over about a three-month period, I kind of started finding my way. And I think that kind of made me be adaptable in every situation and being an artist going, whether it be Belgium, whether it be London, Australia. Like I'm able to be presentable in a room

amongst different cultures and ethnicities. Would it ever nights that you think this wasn't going to happen? Yeah, all the time. All the time. I feel like a lot of people don't see knows that everybody gets. Like they just see the success in that.

And they don't think that it takes hard work. Because they think you just got discovered. You went to this place. And boom, it blew up. Yeah, like it would sound like that if it was written in a fairy tale story. But a lot of hard work, a lot of late night, sleeping nights, stressful nights,

crying in the studio, not thinking I'm going to be. good enough like as a younger artist but yeah a lot of that but I think like I could I didn't let that doubt overshadow the the dream I feel like my heart was was was was in it so I was I was I was ready for anything just even to this day like my heart and my passion is in what I do do that yeah so I feel like that's what I guess keeps me consistent or keeps people interested or you know engaged in my music right death jam you get a contract offer from

Def Jam, they offered you a contract on the spot, and you turned it down. Why did you turn it down? What, the numbers? What made Chris Brown? Because this is your opportunity. This is Def Jam. This ain't no glass of music. This is Def Jam.

And they offer you a contract, Chris, and you say, nah, I'm good. I'm country. The man wouldn't talk to my mama. Huh? So basically, he wanted me to basically, like, with the production guys. I'm not going to say the executive name. name because I love them to this day. I'm never going to expose them.

But I wanted to get him on the phone with my mom. They'd be like, okay, cool. So could you explain this to my mom that's going on? You know, I'm, I think I'm 14 at the time. So, yeah, 14, just turned 14. And my production crew was there, but, you know, they're my handlers at that time. But, you know, at the same time, we're all in the same excitement. But I just wanted to make sense.

My mom is, her word is. She's an adult? Yeah. So tell her what you're telling me. So you got to tell talk to my mom. Right. So as soon as that happened, he was like, no, no, no, I don't need that. We're good.

And I kind of didn't like, I didn't like what that. I felt like they wanted to get over. Like I was, you know, I wasn't green. I was very street smart. So I just was like, well, why wouldn't you just, you? Right. You know, I'm not saying, hey, say hi to my mama, such and such. No, just tell her what you're telling me.

Exactly. So, so that kind of made me kind of have reservations. But then Tina Davis, who was my manager at the time, she was. working at Def Jam. Right. I think they had a merger, so she went her separate ways. But I had learned so much from her even from going into the different meetings, how to prep, how to be ready to perform.

So I was like, you know what? I need someone like that that can show me that because I don't, I'm just going off the raw music at this point. So she was able to, I'm like, Tina, would you mind managing me? And so she was like, cool, let's do it. And from there, she actually got me all the other other deals. or other sit-ins with the labels that I was sitting with. So, yeah.

Did he turn you down? Yeah. Yeah. So how did that meeting go? So how did the meeting go? And then what did he say? Why did he turn you down? And this was probably maybe two or three years prior.

Okay. So I was like 11 or 12 at this time. The same kid that I said that showed me the ropes in New York, yeah. He, me and him had songs. It was like a group. So me and him had different, like, songs that we would. do together and I would do solo songs. So we both got to audition.

He's like, all right, cool. Let's go and meet him and let's go sing. So we went in there together. He was like, cool, we did the song that we have together, and I'm singing on the course. And so he was just like, cool, cool. Yeah, I talk to y'all. You know, he, yeah, can he go outside for a second?

We're going to just talk. They were like, no, we don't want him. They didn't want you. No, they didn't want me. so I was like as a 12, 13 year old I was in an elevator probably crying like a mug

but you knew who did he was right Of course Of course At the pinnacle I'm like Man I'm first of all just excited Just to meet them Yeah like so

Being in the room Kind of made me Like shaky So I probably was nervous And singing crazy But at the same thing he's like Ah yeah I'm a pass on that Right

So I was kind of I was like you know what I'm gonna show him So that was my motivation to keep going to. Because knowing who Denny was, for Denny to say, nah, you need to go on outside. It probably would be like a basketball player, Phil Jackson saying, nah, go away. You know, one of these prominent coaches saying, nah, bro, I don't think you're good enough. So you go, so you're on the elevator, what do you think?

You're like, am I not good enough? Because Pete Diddy just told me, like, nah. Of course, of course, of course, of course. definitely I was in the elevator like alright man this might be it for me you know because as a kid when you're a kid you think anything that's it's over here right but I think

I think I just took that motivation me and my my homeboy we just was like you know what let's just keep going back in the studio let's just make more song let's get get better we just started so I think but I think I think uh Puff for that

man hey did it me I appreciate it though like because that made me that made me get on my grind You say you hired Tina Davis as your business manager. What did you learn from her? I learned everything from media training to how to be presentable in the room, how to speak to people, how to how to listen to people. You know, I was I was like so country and like, hey, what's up, y'all? I'm just loud. Right.

So I feel like I felt like she guided me through a lot of the music industry, the business of how it works, meeting PDs. program directors and going to different radio stations teaching me how to have showmanship. Like she was like, nah, she used to tell me because, Neo's a good friend of mine as well. And she worked with Neo before. So she was like, no, uh-uh. You don't got showmanship like Neo. And I was like, huh?

What am I not doing? So I would have just rehearsals, not even dance rehearsals, just rehearsals of me just figuring out how to be me on stage. or what was me when I get on stage? Right. You know? So when you hear that first song, you hear it come on the radio. What's going through your mind? Man, I'm cussing.

First of all, I'm in the basement, so my mom don't hear me, but I'm cussing. I remember I had a spot in Jersey because right when I signed my deal, I wasn't out of school yet. Right. But they had to push me. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. call it grotesque, others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes

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to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Put me in a place to where I could be closer to the label to start working. Right. So I I was still doing school in the gym and I had just left them and I was like yeah I'm about to I'm about to be in the radio right man you ain't on right yeah what you're talking about so then when they say uh I remember the song came on my cousins was calling me like bro they're playing you on the radio bro and I'm like you lying

and I remember I turned it on I think I sat in the in the corner and was like it yelled for like five minutes straight like I felt it was the best feeling like I still feel like that when I when I hear my songs on the radio now it's not the same is excitement but it's still the same about that first time in yeah yeah yeah it's definitely definitely run it made you the first artist is 95 to have a debut single to top the charts man man did you know that song we i mean obviously it was the first song that was released but did you know that song would forever change your life no no i'm gonna be real i when i did that song we were in miami and hit factory scotch stauch sean garrett like at

And I was just learning. I was a student because this was my first ever album. So any producer I would meet, I'm just soaking it all in. So I'm scared. I'm thinking like, I don't sound good. I don't know if they, do I sound good? I hate, I don't know if I like the song because I was too nervous in my head. But then it was like, nah, this is the one.

But I knew I wanted to dance in it. The music was bumping. So I was like, look, I want to dance. I just want to showcase this. But I didn't know. I think I never had an expectation that it would, it would. have the success that it put me at, you know. So what's your favorite song of all the songs you've done?

What's your favorite song? And give me your top three. My top three. Man, it's so hard with me because I have, just to be honest, I have about 15,000 unreleased songs, right? What? Yeah. I got like, in my phone alone, like in certain apps,

I have, I want to say maybe 1,800, just 1,800 to, like, Yeah. So obviously we're in your studio. Yeah. So you'll come down here like, you know, and just crank out songs. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a point where I used to stay in the studio. Like when I was doing a lot of my earlier albums, I had to learn. But around, I want to say around the fame album and certain stuff like that, I was kind of like in my zone. I knew what I wanted. Yeah. Yeah. So even for me now, I put the studio in my house because like,

I can draw inspiration faster like if I think of something if I think of an idea like oh I got an idea for this song I don't have to like wait or set up the studio and you're like okay I gotta go to studio now so if you're in your bed at night

you think of something you just come down here and just yeah depends because I'll make sure my engineers are wait if it's like five six in the morning I'm like man I'll just do it in the morning but like if it's maybe if it's me and that I'm like hey man you're up let's do it

wow so 18000 unreleased songs I mean, how do you get to 18? How do you get to like 100? Okay, somebody said, you know, I got like 20. I got 50 unreleased songs. But you say in some of your apps you have 1800s. So you just like go days, months, years, where you just record.

Yeah, I literally recorded like four songs yesterday. But I did like, I do it in spurts. So sometimes, some days I'll just relax. I might do one song. But then some days it's just like we just, because I feel like, It's like sharpening your sword, man. Like, being better at your craft, like, shooting, getting your jump shots. Right.

Like, I feel like I don't want to be complacent and thinking I'm, I got it all figured out. I never want to think that I, oh, yeah, I'm Chris Brown, so whatever I'll put out is going to be great. I want to make sure it is, you know. Are there any songs that you wrote for an artist that if people actually knew you wrote it, they would be surprised? Um, I think back in the day they did. I wrote a lot of couple of pop. I wrote a couple Jonas Brothers songs. I wrote a couple of Rihanna songs.

Damn, I do a couple of country record. I used to write a lot for a lot of different artists, but it was more so me experimenting with what music was. I wasn't just doing R&B, so I was just write. But I'm LaToya Luckett I've written for. It's been a lot of people I've written for. But I feel like a lot of people didn't know I'm really right. Because as an artist, you know, you get a lot of, you know, a lot of artists that, music

artists that don't write for themselves. Yeah. But I can't shun them because I work with a lot of producers, a lot of writers, and we do different things. But I've also had time to sit down and just really have my own songs that people are love and I'm like, I'm glad they love that. I wrote that song, you know? So, yeah.

What's your favorite music genre? Is the pop, it's R&B, dance, Euro rap. I'm eclectic. I'm eclectic. So I like certain songs. Like, I think when a song comes out and it just moves me, I just like it. It could be a country song. It could be a piano song.

It could be a heavy metal song. You know, I just think whatever frequency that attunes me to it is what I kind of gravitate to. In my lane, my music, I love doing, I just love doing feel good music, fun music. music people can dance to, but at the same time, give them certain things that get them through their life. Because I'll see a lot of my fans or I talk to them, whether it's meet and greets, whether it's discord or whatever it is, and we talk, and it's like, they explain to me how certain songs got them through life situations.

And I'm like, wow, that really, it kind of sinks in with me. It makes me kind of like, dang, I'm really doing the music for actual purpose. So when I do certain songs, speak from my experience, but also try to speak to uplift somebody make them have fun or make them be like man this makes me feel good inside are there any features that you turned down you're like damn i should have hopped on that one any features that i turned down and i i'm on i i ain't a lot i'm on a lot of features i i feel like i feel like it's certain songs that i wish that i was on when i would hear certain songs but then i would be like that's just that's just my my artist ego wanting to be a part of it

Yeah, but I feel like even there's certain records out now that I'll hear, and I'm like, man, that's amazing. But I think that's good for me because I'm not, I don't think I get convoluted in what I sound like. I'm able to appreciate other people's music and not be like, oh, it's just only about me. Have you ever been removed from a song after it's been recording? I don't think so. Have you removed somebody from a song after it's been recorded? Yes.

So how do you go about telling them or telling him or her that their verse isn't going to make it? Man. Do you tell them or you have somebody else call and tell them? I think it would be better coming from you, though. Yeah, I would tell them. I would tell them. I've done songs, like, even with my, I ain't going to say their names. Certain artists that are like really friends with me and we've done songs,

but I may have had like two songs already with them. I'm like, look, I ain't going, I'm going to take you off this one because we already got this other song. You know, so I've done that. That's what you tell them. No, no, that's been the reason. Okay, okay. But the other ones that got taken off just to get taken off, it just didn't fit the record. Okay.

And I feel like the timing with it. And we just, I'll explain it to them. And I'll be like, look, it just doesn't fit the timing for what we doing and how. I always want to shoot the record, but I haven't let down too many people, though. I haven't tried to let down too many people. You're a fit guy. You're in the train. You like to work out.

So what do you do? So what do you do? You're on tour. How does Chris Brown manage to stay in shape? Because you got to, you're a performer. You're not just a singer. You're a performer. You're an entertainer.

Let me take that back. You're an entertainer. So singing, dancing, that's a part of the act. Yeah. So how do you maintain that level, night after night after night, after night, week after week after week, after month, after month. Man, I just think I got

more adrenaline than most people. But at the same time, my team, man, I think everybody keeps a tight schedule when it comes to what we're doing on the road. Our chef makes sure we eat the right stuff. I don't try to eat stuff

that's going to sit heavy. I want to see anything that builds my protein or just builds my endurance. That's what I'm on. I'm really, and I'm really I'm finicky about it because we also have after parties after shows on tours

it's a long road but at the same time I make sure I at least get my eight hours asleep right so the rest is that me and my dancers that workout is like no other so you know we got our workout regimen we do our like 15 to 30 minute a flash set before we go

before we get on stage and then and then repeat it over and over right so I've been able to have this fast metabolism hopefully it never slows up. How, I'm just trying to figure out. How do you protect your voice? With me, well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't advise this to everybody else

because I do smoke every now and then a lot. But for me, I have, I use these, there's these pills. They're called mullin pills. They're good for your lungs. And I make sure that I'm not just smoking, smoking, smoking before I go on stage. So a lot of the times I'm, uh, whenever I am smoking, I'm doing something that counteracted. I'm making sure I'm...

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Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, I'm Jared Adano.

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Right. You know, so after that, chill out after that. Right. Say, what's up, bro? Cool. You know, I try to refrain from doing anything that's going to put too much of a strain on my voice. Right. what I have to applaud, bro

I don't know. I mean, I have to go back to like James Brown to see somebody to sing and perform like you. I mean, it's continuous. It's nonstop. I mean, I first, when the first time I ever heard of Chris Brown I heard you say something like, oh, I can I

dance usher? I said, man, this man's long that damn bad. I said, he's 13 and he already like. I said, who thought this man a lot like this at 13? And then I watched you, I'm like, and then you're like, I'm like, I don't know he might.

I mean, to see the way he move, man, and the way he can get toward his body, I don't know he might be on to something. How, when did you learn to do that? I watched that. That's from being a kid at the cookout, man. That's from your uncle's like, man, come out here, man, do that, do that dance you be doing it, man.

So I feel like my childhood gave me that freedom to really like, you know, be, from MC Hammer, watching MC Hammer Michael Jackson, I always was moving and I had a fascination in love with rhythm so I feel like, you know, even in sports you got to have the rhythm. Right. So that just was like natural to me. It came natural. I feel like

it's from the soul. Yeah. So I feel like even dancing now, like I can learn technical stuff, I can learn stuff, but I like to just I like when people to see it to be like that feel good. He having fun doing that. Yeah, but you do realize a lot of the stuff, you do they can't do right like you know i mean you like the only one that can do that somebody gotta do yeah but i mean i mean i like to see a dance like you know okay you moonwalk okay break down i mean

you do a little break dancing but a lot of the stuff that you be doing chris like man people gonna break their neck yeah yeah i wouldn't invite people to try some of the stuff i do that's why it's good to just see it at the show kids y'all can have fun y'all a little bit more flexible right but at the same time like i just i'm thankful to be able to still have these needs to be working like this And I don't get up like, oh, man, I'm tired. I got to go dance. I love it. Right.

So as long as I'm able and God blesses me to be able to dance and showcase this talent and hopefully inspired the world, I'm going to keep doing it. Why don't you think other artists have adopted your approach to become performance? I mean, sometimes you see performers or you see like singers. I mean, there's nothing wrong. Yeah. I mean, but I look at you as an entertainer. I look at Beyonce as an entertainer. Absolutely.

But there are singers. Adele is a singer. Yeah. She got a mermaid dress on. Hey, she on that mic. I saw, I saw the observatory. Unbelievable. Yeah.

But I saw Beyonce and I'm like, how does she do that for two hours? I watch you. I'm like, how can you do that for two hours? I think, I think, because you know, I think it's different stars, man. There's different stars in the sky. So I kind of, I kind of, my take on it is everybody has their thing. Right. You know, I feel like in our, in our, in our.

Our genre, it's like an old art, but it's like, you know, because you've got to really do your research or you got to really, you know, want it. And I think Beyonce, I got to always give her her credit, she wants it. She has always wanted it, you know what I'm saying? So, and she is it, you know? I feel like with me, I've always, I've always wanted it. I always wanted to leave a legacy of being one of the baddest. You know, I don't got to be the baddest, but I'm going to be one of them, you know. What does it make you feel like when other artists come up to you and say,

bruh, that was unbelievable for him. I'm still in shock. Like, I have an imposter syndrome. I wake up to this day and be like, am I? Am I, how did I get here? Right. Like, so when people even acknowledge it, I'm more, I'm more receptive and appreciative. I'm kind of like, for real.

Okay, cool. They like my stuff. I'm still fans of other artists. Right. So it's still me being like, okay, they really love what I'm doing. Right. I'm gonna keep doing it. Right.

All right. When you first started out, you used to open up for Beyonce. Yeah. You're like, you know, I'm gonna try to swipe some of her fan. I'm gonna have, I'm gonna some of her fan because I know what she's gonna do after me. Man. I need to make sure I'd do something before. So, them people talk about, yeah, Beyonce was great, but you should have saw Chris Brown.

Chris Brown was unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, I was a student. Being on there, I was with Destiny Child thing, I was like 16 or 17. or 17. I opened up for them in Australia. And for that, that was just a blessing because to be able to go from me

having a little TV and me watching these people performing and being able to see them. And they're like, hi, they know my name. I'm like, oh my God, they say hi to me. Watching them perform from stage presence, lighting, production, dancers, timing. Right.

I learned so much from all of those experiences. And I soaked it up and I said, well, I don't want to copy anybody. Right. But, okay, well, If I could do that, I'll do it like this. So I was able to digest and learn from all those experiences. So it was actually a blessing.

It was a blessing. I had Druski on my show, and he said he went on tour with you. Yeah. He said, it's unbelievable the amount of distractions that's going on, like girls just running everywhere, but you're laser focused on what you need to do. Yeah. Because I look at it like, these people spend any money to come see.

me like even to this day like you spending a ticket or whatever for your family you coming through with your kids there is grown people there it's all ages but the one thing I need them to do is leave happy I need them to leave not not for my pockets you know they need to leave happy for my soul right like this this ability that I'm able to have or this this talent that I'm going with I want to express it with love the frequency I want to give out is love so right like that's what gets me going and when they get coming there I'm excited I'm I'm I'm nervous than they is. Right.

So, but I'm going to make sure that they're going to leave and be like, you know what, I got my money's worth. Man, I read that you, this guy broke up with his girl. You called his girl up on stage and gave the lady a, gave the young lady a lap there. And he broke up with it. How do you do that? Man, see, it wasn't intentional. What do you think was going to happen?

See, I didn't know she had a, had a guy. That's her fault because she knows she had a guy. She should have said it. She definitely should have said it. My dancers pull up a girl on stage during our set. And we usually like to give the fans an opportunity. But sometimes it's very, very, very attractive women come on stage. So I'm like, okay, cool.

So me grinding on them, they don't really have a problem with it. It's just I guess she had a man there. Right. But I didn't know. I didn't find out to that afterwards. I was like, man, we should have just, do we send him flowers or send her flowers? No, she should have thought this. that she should say, nah.

See, I mean, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Because the lady, see, if I'm out with a young lady, it's not my job to check the guy. It's her job. She should have been like, no, you know what I'm fine. There you go. And if a lady check on me,

we're not going to be like, forget him. There you go. We'll be like, okay, great. Right. And you'd have been okay. But now, you're probably like, come on. He goes, he won't mind. But I'm surprised.

First of all, I commend him for going. Yeah. I mean, because not a whole lot of guys are going with the, girls. Yeah. They might go. They go. Some of them go.

They might be in the back. They might be a little bit further back. Like, nah, you ain't getting in front row. Right. Uh-uh. He's not feeling to look at you at all. Let's talk about I'm looking at the Gramies. Yeah.

And you have one. But reading you and researching this, you feel you should have more. Yes. I feel like a lot of artists feel like they should have more. But I, you know, I feel like I don't want to discredit the Gramies or dissimists or feel like the angry. artists when it comes to that. I feel like... You won't be the first, you won't be the last.

Yeah, I know. I feel like it's just, I feel like music at a state right now is not based on what people love. Right. I feel like, well, with the Grammys, no disrespect to y'all, but I just feel like it's a lot of old ears over there. Right. A lot of old ears, there's a lot of people that's not really tuned into what's going on. Right.

So, and, you know, it's a broad range of artists that I can think of now that deserve more Grammys and more recognition. Right. But, you know, I feel like at this point in my career in my life, I'm like, you know what? I have one, right? That's good enough. You know, for me, I feel like... He lonely, though.

He could be lonely. But he could be lonely. I'd rather, my, what I get my joy from is feeling them stands up. Like, I could care less about getting on the stage. Well, I would love to get on the stage at the Grammys or any awards. I don't have a problem with it. But it doesn't feel my heart more than it does. to see twice as many people in an arena or I go over and I sell out six nights ago.

Like that, that's priceless to me. Right. So I feel like I've just started loving what I love the most about what I do, just the music and the passion and just focused on that. You caught some flag because you wrote Robert Glasper. You say, who is this cat? Yeah. And I mean, he did the single, the song with Michelle and Day Gocello,

who's my favorite, all-time artist, and her. Yeah. Great song. And you know, you say no disrespect. You took it back. Tell me what your mindset was. Okay, you're sitting at home. Impulse.

So that's where, hold up. Who the home boy? Hey, give me that. You're about to do something. You're about to do something. Give me that. Yeah. And put it in his back pocket.

Yeah, they probably was maybe 15 seconds too late. But at the time, I think, but at the time, because me, I was misinformed. So even when I had to, I had to do my research and me, like, you know what? This guy's talented, you know, and I reached out to him. I said, look, I said, look, I don't want you to think that I have ill will towards you or anything. We should work. Yeah, yeah, he's legit. Yeah, so he reached back out to me.

So, yeah, we're going to get in the studio and work. But that was me. That's, you know, being a sourpuss, you know. Are you disappointed that the award shows, given your background, given what you've done, given how you packed their arenas, given how, the number speak more than Elvis. and a billion this and that that they haven't allowed you to perform? You're a performer.

Yeah, at times. You want to perform in front of your peers. I want to showcase what I'm really capable of at all times. But I've taken my position to say, I'm not stopping. Right. You know, so it'll happen. Right. It'll happen.

You know, it'll happen. Do you remember the last award show you performed at? I think my last award show, it might have been BT. My last award show might have been BT Awards. Yeah. Yeah. Keller supported you. Yeah.

She got some criticism. Yeah. I love you, Kelly. I mean, what's, I mean, uh, uh, Lizzo. Yeah. Say you're a favorite. Criticism. Ed Shearing.

Some others have come to your, like, the man is unbelievable. Yeah. And they call criticism. What is it with this council culture? I think it's, I don't think, It's even a cancel culture. I think because my fans and the people who do love me, like, they kind of overshadow it because I'm still here, you know, but I feel like, I just feel like people are sensitive as hell today, man. Like, we don't get to really shoot the shit or we

don't get to say what we really want to say a lot of times. A lot of things is contrived and conform. You don't get to be yourself because you can't have an open expression, freedom, freedom to say anything. You don't have to discredit anybody or cut any. out or say anything rude about anybody, but I feel like everybody's too damn sensitive at this point. Right. But you've mentioned some of the people that that's in this business. Yeah.

That have had some transgressions. Yeah. That have been forgiven and gone on to, and it hasn't stopped you from making money. Yeah. But it, those people were able to go back, be on stage, being movies and do all these other things. It's my smile. And it, I think, I think it's because I think people think I have a careless, I

Look on it right. It is not that I have a careless outlet. I don't care to make you believe that I'm a I'm a great person right or a good person Right, I'm just gonna be one right so I feel like with that You know I I mean I'm and I don't take no nonsense I'm like almost I'm a humble guy. I'd be cool, but I really don't I really don't take right nonsense I try to stay in my lane get out the way. Don't bother nobody, but I'm not gonna take no nonsense if you were to get back if so if they call this is Chris This year's Gramies We want you to perform. Yeah.

You there? Of course. I do it. No ill will. It wouldn't be ill will because it would be about the performance. I would want to get that to my fans. It wouldn't be necessarily about the Grammys. It would be about me putting on the best performance.

The fans seeing Chris out of the awards show. And just going out there and doing my thing. You'll kill it. Yeah, man. This might be the greatest stage performance. Anybody's ever seen? Well, I'm going to try to make it that every time, every time. Anytime that opportunity gives, like, gives itself that opportunity, even on my, or my, when you come to my shows, I want to make it like, you're watching it on an award show.

Right. I want, it needs to be theater. It needs to be, it needs to be fun. You try to leave the, you try to, the fan, you want the fan to leave, said, I've never seen anybody do that before. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I want to do that every time And just like I said

Give them that joy and give them that It factor I'm trying to be the greatest to do it while I still can do it When they say R&B is dead Chris Brown says what It's not it's not Just hip hop is it's more prevalent I would just say hip hop is

Has been influential Over the whole world But I feel like R&B R&B has has its place and there's a lot of R&B artists out because I don't want to discredit it. It's a lot of great R&B

female-wise and male-wise. I just feel like we just have to have platforms. I feel like we need bigger platforms to show music videos. I think we need not just for R&B, just for music, period. We used to have one-06 and part. We used to have outlets to where people would be

engaged and have to see you at a certain time and have to be invested in your music and certain things like that. There's other avenues like that on the internet. But Talafrary did by just just by BET so maybe he'll bring a 106 in Park. Yeah, let us start showcasing new artists, new talent, so people can

and so everybody doesn't have to go find an artist like, like let these talented artists be broadcasting. Like, let them rock. I feel like it's needed. I feel like I go flip through my channels, unless I have to type in the name of the artist, it's cool, but I would like to be presented

with artists like, oh man, that's tight, who is that guy? How do we get R&B? Will R&B ever be what it once was because I was talking Timberland I think I was Timberland and he says I don't think it to be at the height it once was the I it depends because because everything shifts there's always a shift in music so so it just depends on the right artist it depends on the right the right timing the season what the world is what the state of the world is what people are going through like you know music music especially R&B come from pain a lot of pain there's a lot of

pain going on the world but I think we're trying to I think we're trying to I think I think right there everybody's trying to kind of like negate that. Or try to be like, you know what, hey, I just want to feel better. Right. I want to talk about substances and records and whatever crazy stuff it is. But I think, I think it has, it's, it's gonna be time for it. What's your thought on AI? You like it?

It's, yeah, I'm kinda, I'm kinda, I'm kinda, I'm 50-50. Because the capabilities of the scientific community, I love it. You know they can make me sound like Chris Brown. That's crazy. They won't need real real Chris Brown. See, they'll pay me a half of that. I said this.

This is what I said. If I heard a, when I hear the AI version of Chris Brown and it's just a complete song and it's a great song. Right. I'm going to figure out if we're going to license our voices out.

Right. Because I know I'm not going to be the one to do it, but there's going to be an artist. That's, I'm like, no, that's me. Right. And they're going to just, and they're going to, they're going to, They're going to benefit from it.

But I'm 50-50. I feel like it takes away a lot of the mystery or the artistry that makes you a beautiful artist. If you can just have a computer. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. But I feel like I'm still in this technological world too, so I'm fascinated with it as well. Right.

I want to get you out of here on these two right here. You are a very good businessman. It's reported that you own 14 Burger Kings. How are you able to become so business. savvy at such a young age? My team. I've been able to have a great team that, you know, I've been to my ups and downs. Like, I felt a lot financially in the beginning just, you know.

You're going to make mistakes. Yeah, you know. But now it's about, it's about just trying to, I want to create stuff that's going to create stuff. You know, I want to be able to have stuff that's going to be here for everybody, for longevity. So, and it doesn't necessarily have to be titled around my actual name or brand. I just want to be able to have a legacy for my family outside of music. Correct.

You know, I want to be wealthy instead of rich. Oh, okay. Your catalogs, that seems to be a big, you own your master's. Yeah. And you were one of the youngest to ever do that at the age of 29. Would you ever, I mean, a lot of you see a lot of artists selling the catalog. Is that something Chris Brown would look to do in the future? I don't know.

It depends. It depends on, I would, I don't think I would sell them. I think I might, I might do deal, lease them out and stuff like that later. But I don't think I, I don't think I would because I feel like, as a black artist, that's what we've been wanting forever. To be able to get that. Get our masters. Right. So, so for me to be able to do that, like, and be one of the first young cats to do it, like, it's like, oh, I'll beat the game.

But I feel like, I feel like I wouldn't, I wouldn't do it at this point because that's, that's something my, my, my chance. Children's children, children, children can eat all. Right. You know? So I think I'm a, yeah. Tell me the story about Jockese. Jokie's. He said he came to L.A.

He said he lived in the crib of you. Like, hey. Yeah. So, so, so Jokie's, he's been around me since he was teenagers, braces, everything. I've seen Jokwees' videos through a, through mutual friends that we knew. Okay. And I knew that he was a fan of me.

Right. So, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, if I see talent and I see the same spunk that I had in my eye, that I was like, you know, But this kid is really talented. So he came to LA for like a week. He was standing at a hotel. I was like, bro, why are you wasting your money at the hotel? Wow.

The people we both know, they at my career. We're chilling. You're good, bro. There's no parents at the house going to tell you what you're doing to come to the house. So I had to show him the ropes. Like, he was around and he was able to learn for me in the studio as well. Like, so I would be in the studio with him and just teaching stuff. He would ask, he'd like, big bro, what's this?

oh is this cool to do this is not cool to do and I would just tell him hey bro don't do this don't do what they're doing that's fry you know so

a lot of the things with Jack Quees is it's real family so when I see him do his thing and where he's at now I'm proud of him man because

I saw the grind before everybody else saw right you know I had Timelaan I'm gonna get you out of him on this one he said he got some great advice from you

he said you called him and say bro don't do any more interviews high you remember that conversation yeah yeah yeah because me because you know Tim is Tim is is is is family y'all from the same area to be Virginia area so I learned so much from him but I

remember you know he I love I love weed so so we use and smoke a lot of time and then I just remember seeing him all that's a man don't do that no more don't do that nah we can't do it it's not it's not a good it's not a good look it's not a good look you got a new single single the new singer's out summer too uh too hot yeah level so out lever's so out lever solo album is on the way. Yeah. What can your fans? What can we expect from Chris Brown on this album? Less songs. Less songs. Yes. Only saying that my fans do what I mean, because I'm used to putting, I think my last album had like 30-something songs. What? The one before that had like 56. Like, so it's a lot. Can we get like 12, 13? Yeah. The album's going to be called 11-11,

right? It's my 11th album and it's only going to have 11 songs. Right. Okay. But so, But 11-11. Is it going to be released in November? No, we're trying to figure it out. Possibly. But we're trying to figure it out now, right? As of now, I'm still in the studio. We've got a lot of good records that I've been cutting.

And the new song I just put out, I just put that out basically to just have something for the summer. Have people feeling good again. I know it's about to start getting hot out here. So let's just have fun. You know, the video's coming. We're about to dance. I'm about to dance, man.

About to dance again on them. Congratulations. You're doing all your success. Thank you so much. I think you're performing at Dreya on the 29 after the fight. Yeah. Yep. You're gonna be at the fight?

Oh yeah, I'll be there too. So yeah, we got a link up, man. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. No, thank you for having me, man. Continue your success. God bless, bro. Thank you, bro.

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