The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Betting NFL Playoffs + Ohio State vs. Notre Dame! Big Ten’s Advantage Over SEC, Caitlin Clark=New Stadium

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

Colin is joined by Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network and host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for the divisional round of the NFL playoffs and the college football national championship!  They dissect the huge advantages Big Ten schools have compared to SEC schools when it comes to athletics, why they’re both amazed at the Indiana Fever announcing they are building a new 90 million dollar stadium after Caitlin Clark’s rookie season, and their five favorite things in sports. 3:00 - Texans vs Chiefs 6:15 - Commanders vs Lions 10:00 - Eagles vs Rams 13:30 - Bills vs Ravens 22:00 - Ohio State vs Notre Dame 26:00 - Big Ten’s advantage over the SEC 35:00 - Indiana Fever building a new stadium 47:00 Five favorite things in sports (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!   #Volume #Herd  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, everybody. Chad Millman, I'm relishing in a rare winning week. I went three and two. I've told you I've had an absolutely terrible year betting. I do think it's a little easier in the playoffs because you get greater quarterbacks and I kind of know, especially at home, your better quarterbacks generally play. pretty well at home. So that said, Kansas City minus seven and a half, I know there's a hook. Warm Weather team on the road after playing really well. C.J. Stroud's home and away splits. Don't play in his favor. Andy Reed and a buy. Kansas City's going to win the game.

The question is, by how much? So I'm inclined to say, I don't know, I have. a winning week last week. I lost one of those underdogs that everybody loved, and that's what I did all year. So I do think the weakest team left in the playoffs, AFC or NFC is not the commanders, because I think their quarterback may be better than Andrew Luck as a rookie. It's probably Houston on the road in cold weather. So I know it's wrong, but I'm going to take the chiefs minus seven and a half. What say you? Yeah, at seven and a half, I think it's the sharp side. At eight and a half, you're starting to get a little bit of interest in the Texans. And what you just said is exactly what the wise guys are seeing, too.

They're more interested in betting the commanders, let's say, as big underdogs than on betting, than betting on the Texans right now. And there's one thing that you have to consider, which is Patrick Mahomes, as a favorite of three or more generally has. been a losing bet. Patrick Mahomes as a seven plus point favorite, 52 and five straight up. So he generally wins those games. They're going to win the game. 22, 32 and three against the spread. That's 41%. Normally, I will not give you the exact numbers. I'll just give you the percentage because I'm not going to give you anything that is a dataset of two, right? I'm going to give you a sample size that is relevant. so people understand we're not just sort of giving out really small numbers to make ourselves look good.

41% against a spread on a sample size that is 22 plus 32, what is that? And 3, 57, right? So that's a decent size number at a point spread of 7 plus. So dig a little deeper because don't forget, this game is going to be played in very, very cold weather. Okay. Patrick Mahomes as a favorite of seven plus points in weather under 40 degrees, he's 10 and 6 against the spread. Under 30 degrees, he's 4 and 1 against the spread. So what did I just tell you? I just told you his record was 22 and 32 and 3 against the spread as a 7 plus point favorite. Nearly 50% of those wins against the spread have come in cold weather. So now all of a sudden it changes the formula a little bit. makes me feel more comfortable betting on the Chiefs.

So the wise guys have been betting on the Chiefs, they bet this up. It's about 50-50 in terms of the feelings, the expectations on either side at eight and a half. I still like the Chiefs here. Commanders plus nine and a half is the side to me. A side note, my favorite part, Detroit's going to win the game.

But since they have a pocket quarterback and they don't have a hyper-mobile quarterback, and they don't have a hyper-mobile quarterback on the roster. The advantage here to playing against Jaden Daniels in this game is whoever they face next and in the Super Bowl is likely Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Patrick and Mahomes, or Josh Allen. So this is a really good test case on how they defend a running quarterback because they don't have one on their roster. So I think it's instructive.

This is a really good game for Detroit. I think they'll win the game. Jaden Daniels, however, has been so good and so good. good late. Now, if it's a blowout and that's certainly possible, we know one team's going to blow the other out. But the commanders are the rare team in a rebuild that's actually great late. That's usually veteran teams and veteran staffs. Very rarely are you, like the, like the Chargers, you'd be surprised if they were great and close games because they have a new staff and kind of a new culture. I would take the points here. I think it's going to be a Detroit win.

But if the commanders get the opening snap, take it and score, I'm like, game on. Sixteen and a half points. I'm okay with that. Sharper square. Well, there's no consensus here. And this is going to be a little bit of a theme today. The lions have been so dominant against the spread during the Dan Campbell and Jared Goff era.

When I say dominant, I mean there are three and four-year records against the spread are the best in the Super Bowl era. Jared Goff, indoors, 34 and 13 against the spread. This is a team that doesn't matter what the number is. They cover the number. They're 18, 2, and 1 against the spread against teams averaging more than 24 points per game, the commanders average 28 points per game.

There are pockets of professional betters who liked the commanders for exactly what you just said. They have won their last five games on the last play of the game. I don't mean good comeback last two minutes. I mean literally last play of the game. If you break it down, you see, okay, well, that was against New Orleans and they kind of underperformed and needed a miracle to win at the end. The next one, that was against Philly.

Jalen Hertz got hurt in the beginning of the game, and they needed a miracle to come back against a team that was a little bit banged up and didn't have its quarterback playing for him, right? The next game, Atlanta, and the coach, Rahim Morris for the Falcons, screwed up the timeouts and took the Falcons out of position to win that game. And then they won in the last minute, last second play against Dallas in a game that didn't really matter. And then last week was some flukiness from the Baker-Mayfield fumble and then the field goal kicking the upright.

So you can look at it either way and say, yeah, they're great in the end, or, yeah, they're getting lucky against inferior teams or getting fluky plays at the end. So you're 100% right in that if they score early, this is a game that you can expect to be a shootout, expect to go over the 55 and a half. And because 16 and a half is a lot to cover when your defense for the Lions still isn't that great. and it's going to be playing against a very good running quarterback. But I can't give you like a strong opinion on the wise guys. So my favorite pick last week was Philly-Agrince Green Bay to cover. And I didn't even think Philly played well and they did it. I like this game, Philly minus six as well, for about 20 reasons.

Number one, warm weather team that tends to perform very well on extra rest. Now it's short rest, flight across the country. in cold weather. Kairn Williams is hurt. They played a perfect football game largely against Minnesota. They did earlier this year against Buffalo, how they looked the next week.

Even in the professional ranks, you do not play perfect football back-to-back weeks. And when McVeigh has extra time, it's like watching, it's symphonic. I mean, they're just the first play of the games like Puka, 27 yards, you're like, yep, it's going to be a rough one for the Vikings.

Philadelphia at home, you can always coach a team more harshly when they win and play like crap. I think one of the strengths of the eagles that had previously, previous year's been a weakness is corner. So Pooka Nakuha, this Rams team is very Puka-centric. They match up well with them. I also think the Rams' offensive line and pass protection can be very inconsistent.

They have a rookie center, a seventh round pick, six or seventh from Arkansas, against Jalen Carter, who is virtually unblockable. For 20 reasons, I like Philadelphia minus six to cover, sharper square. Yeah, totally sharp. I think you're finding real consensus here for a lot of the reasons you just said, and if you look at that game last week, in reality, it probably should have ended 29 to 10. Sequin took a dive to end the game and at 22 to 10. but everything you're saying

and from front to back, even without Nacobi Dean, this Eagles defense is so fierce. And what they did to the Packers in making them look bad is the opposite of what the Vikings did to Matthew Stafford. And that offensive line

that the Vikings had made the Rams defense look like the Eagles. The Rams defense is not the Eagles. And the Eagles' offensive line is not the Vikings' offensive line. This is a team that is so completely dominant at the line of scrimmage on both sides. The wise guys are wondering why this isn't a little bit higher, and they'd bet it up to seven.

To be honest, if you look back to when these teams played earlier in the fall. Eagles totally dominated the second half. Destroyed them. The line in that game was three, okay? The Eagles were favored by three. Now the Eagles are favored by six. even if you say, okay, I'm discounting the home field advantage for the Rams and it's really not worth that much. And then you translate all that like home field is usually worth three, right?

So in reality, what the bookmakers would be thinking is, well, shouldn't the Eagles be favored by nine, right? Because they're three on the road. At a neutral field, they're six. At home, they're nine. Say that the Rams at home is not worth anything. it still isn't worth of zero. So there's a little bit of value here. This line should probably be seven.

I would not be surprised if it gets there. Wise guys will definitely be betting it at six. So I like the Bills plus one and a half at home. Zay Flowers is the only Ravens player who has not practiced. In fact, it's been a while since he did practice. So if he plays, he'll be, you know, this is kind of walking on the field and going. I understand the Bill's run game, the Bill's defense is susceptible to the run game. And I don't doubt that Baltimore will have some success, whether they have success in the red zone, we'll see.

And there have been teams that beat the Bills. The Rams played a perfect football game. But this Buffalo team really between an elite offensive play caller, left tackle. quarterback, running back. I really like their wide receiving and tight-end group. You may not have a superstar, but it's B-plus stuff. I think, you know, there's a sense that Lamar gets tense in big games. Lamar also doesn't like cold weather, and it's going to be 24 degrees.

I don't get the line. Getting Josh Allen's best team at home plus points, I don't know what the analytics say. It just feels wrong. I think the bills are going to win the Super Bowl. Wow. Yeah, so I'm taking Buffalo here, Sharper Square. So the line opened Ravens Plus 2, and it moved very quickly with Wise Guy money to Ravens minus 1. It was less than 24 hours before the Ravens went from underdogs to favorites. It got up to one and a half. The Wise guys have started buying the bills back from one and a half.

half, it's down to one, in a lot of places. Like, the wise guys like generally, whoever the underdog is in this matchup. That's what they're betting. So if you like the bills, you can get him as an underdog, get him as an underdog. I am, I would not,

I don't like either side in this game. If I have to bet, I'm going to wait as long as I can, try to get the Ravens at pick and hope that this line comes back down. As much as Lamar doesn't like playing in the cold, he's still succeeded. He's four in O in games when it's, you know,

less than when it's 30 degrees or less. He's 26 and 9 against the spread as a favorite of three or less or as an underdog. I get what Josh Allen is. I think Lamar Jackson is the MVP. This is a more well-rounded team. I think you're playing with fire if you're betting the bills. But the wise guys are liking him as an underdog. But there's also plenty of wise guys who still like the Raven.

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They are making good teams look awful. They made Oregon look like, like, you know, a third-tier team. they humiliated physically Tennessee. And, I mean, again, Texas was arguably for most of the year, everybody's sort of belief until they lost to Georgia for the second time. Texas was the team. And you watch them line up with Ohio State and you're like, yeah, NIL money. You can see you spent the most money. It's Ohio State.

I also think Chip Kelly has given Ohio State an advantage in the NIL and, and, and, and, NFL playoff like tournament where it's a great team after great team after great team you hide some stuff you unveil some stuff later i think what they've done to their offense the pacing the tempo delivering kind of new sets and looks i think it's a really smart football team and this is the first time in college football you've had an NFL style playoff and i think chip kelly has helped Notre Dame has one five-star athlete i do think the game will be close in the first half because i think Marcus Freeman is my Sean McVey in college. I think culture and belief. But, you know, Sean McVeigh in his career has lost when he has faced better teams, when he faced the Niners for years, when all

these, Seanahan, when Shanahan's players were all in their prime, he had great game plans. And by the third quarter late, you're like, San Francisco's got better players. I love Marcus Freeman. I think they're outmaned here. I think it gets, I think it's a very competitive, low-scoring game early. I don't think it is late. I'll take the Buckeyes minus eight and a half, sharper square. Well, at this point, there's no real dominance on either side, right? The line opened at nine and a half, got bet down to eight and a half. It's kind of in that no man's land between seven and ten.

The real interest from professional betters is on the under right now in this game. I think it's at 45 and a half right now. defenses as much as the Buckeyes offense is so good. Notre Dame's defense has been phenomenal, and Al Golden has been creating incredible game plans. And if you look at sort of every single metric, they're just about even. Either one is number one at one and the other one is number five or vice versa. The only real differences are Ohio State is not nearly as good at stopping teams on third down. and Ohio State's not nearly as good

at converting turnovers as a defensive team. But on the flip side, Notre Dame has things where they're not as good. So they're not as good at getting sacks as Ohio State. So there's definitely this game feels like a defensive battle and the wise guys are looking at the under. There's a lot of data back up what you like about this.

There have been 24 national title games in the BCS era. Yeah. Favorites crush. 12 of those have been won by the favorites by more than a touchdown. So if you do like Ohio State,

it is likely they will cover this game. So if you're thinking that they're going to win, bet them to cover because that's usually how those things go with the favorites international title game for college football. I will tell you, though, it's funny about college football.

There are some suggesting that the SECs, run is over, and then others are saying it's a one-off. But there is some advantage to this. If the NIL never has a cap, schools like Alabama are begging boosters, like it's a bake sale to give money. Notre Dame's got more money than SEC schools outside of Texas. Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, a lot of these Oregon, a lot of these northern tier teams, there's a lot of CEOs from those schools, and there's a lot of money in the north. And when Alabama is basically saying, we need help, $100, $50,

will help, that's a car wash. That's a plea for help. And you're getting that from some of the sort of SEC fan bases, which is one of the great things about the SEC has been the tribal nature of it. The Big Ten, although there is some parochialism to it, big ten graduates go to the coast and they make big money. SEC graduates largely stand the footprint of the South to a large degree. Big 10 graduates, they go to L.A., San Francisco, Seattle, tech jobs, Boston, Minneapolis, New York, D.C., overseas.

And they make great money. And I just look at like Notre Dame. I'm like, I know like six Notre Dame guys. They're all rolling in it. They're all doing well. So I think there's something to be said about there are some financial realities. And this is not to say there's not money in the South. Georgia's got a lot of money.

But when Alabama's coming out and begging for it, it's like, wow. And Alabama is sort of the Bentley. You know, it's sort of the standard of the South. I do think SEC will still be the deepest conference for a while. But remember this year, Washington was in a rebuild, USC was in a rebuild, Michigan was in a rebuild. They're not in rebuilds next year. state brings everybody back, and Ohio State's Ohio State, and Oregon, with their money is Oregon,

I think it's inches, not feet now. I think these conferences are going to go toe to toe. Ohio State, I mean, we don't even count Oregon because they got blown out by Ohio State. I think Oregon would have beaten everybody except Georgia in the SEC. I'm so glad you brought this up. I saw that same story about Alabama. And I wasn't shocked at all to see that they were having a hard time with NIL money. And granted, everyone should take this with a grain of salt. We're two East Coast, West Coast media dudes who have not spent an extraordinary amount of time living in the South. But I think your theory and your thesis is spot on. And we're seeing. And we're seeing. it in different ways. I don't think of the University of Miami as a Southern school. The University

of Miami is a school where a lot of people with a lot of money from the East Coast, from really wealthy communities in the Midwest, send their kids to school. And those kids then go out. Maybe they live in Miami, but they usually go back to their hometown, whether it's New York or Chicago, and they end up working in huge corporate environments, making a ton of money. They can funnel a lot of money in NIL for Miami where Carson Beck is going, right? Think about Duke. Duke in basketball. Duke has some of the wealthiest alumni

in the country. How to Duke get money so quickly for NIL, partially because their program is amazing and that's where they're going to focus, but they're getting NIL money for football too. And so I think you're 100% right. NIL is going to even the scales a little bit and it's not going to be one of those things

where, oh my God, Alabama's going to get so much better, they didn't get so much better. And now we're seeing what's happening. It's teams that have huge alumni networks that are going to get so much better. I agree 100%. And think about this. I don't think people realize this. Big Ten schools are much bigger than SEC schools. Wisconsin, 40,000.

Ohio State, 45,000. SEC schools may fill their stadiums, but these Penn State, I mean, if you, folks, if you're listening to this, go look it up. Big Ten schools often have double the kids, and they spread out over the country or internationally. I know a lot of SEC kids that do go to New York City. I'm not saying they don't. But whereas the South, economically, there's a lot of jobs. The South is still growing.

The Midwest isn't necessarily growing and has bad weather. So a lot of Big Ten students flee to better weather. Whereas a lot of SEC students say like, listen, it's, I like the winners down here. I love Atlanta. You know, my friends, my family. So I, and this is just anecdotal. But in my life, the one city SEC students go to outside of the South is New York City. You know, a lot of financial majors.

Yep. Economy majors or whatever. But I do think that the fact that the South, the economy is pretty good in the South, cities like Nashville or fun, cool and growing. Atlanta, same thing. Not a lot of places outside of Chicago in the Midwest are economic powers. I mean, a lot of Indies and St. Louis and, and so a lot of big 10 kids, they flee after they graduate. Detroit, you know, a lot of these kids, they want to go, they want to go to school there. They don't want to live there. I think, well, number one, let me tell you that Penn State student body, I think, is close to,

60, 70,000 people. Like, it is a massive student body, right? It is much, much bigger than when you're going to get in an SEC school. Don't disagree with you at all about kids wanting to go to the SEC schools and then leaving the SEC schools, right? I'm going through it right now. It is so hard to get into SEC schools, Georgia, Auburn, Florida. Those are some of the most competitive state schools in the country right now.

I'm seeing it. And partially it is because kids from the Northeast, like my kid, kids from the Midwest. They're tired of the weather. They're tired of the weather. And they're seeing it on social media. Every single image. And the girls are beautiful. And everybody's wearing sundresses all year.

Everyone's going to football games, having the time of their life, partying in the grove. And they're like, why would I want to go to somewhere where it's gray eight months out of the year? of the top 23 school enrollments, 13 are in the big 10. Yeah. That's almost the whole big 10. Yeah. So, you know, remember, USC's private.

They're big 10 now. Northwestern's private. They're big 10. So of the 16, two of them are private, small privates. Now, Vanderbilt's also private, so I'm sure they're enrollment smaller. Privates usually are. But, no, I think, I think our points are valid that, that, listen, if you grow up in warm weather, it is hard to go cold.

If you grow up in cold weather, it's much easier to go warm. Yeah, this is a fat, it'll be fascinating to see how this develops over the next five years, right? Because, or even longer, because we are seeing so many kids from the East Coast and the Midwest who are going to these SEC schools. and over, say, a generation from now, as these kids maybe decide to stay in the southeast, is there more money in corporate culture? Is there more NIL money that gets funneled into these SEC schools that otherwise would have gone to a Michigan, that would have gone to an Ohio state, that would have gone to a Penn State, because those are the places where those kids were going, and they're no longer headed there.

And so there's a lot more corporate money that can flow into the SEC schools to point from earlier. But it's going to take, it might take a while. Right. So, listen, all I know is, here's something else that jumped out to me before we go, is that I always love kind of where sports is going, not just where it is. And so college football, I think, between transfer portal NIL and playoff has made a lot of changes. And I tend to love change in sports and where it's going. I think college football is in a really cool place. I just, just need some guardrails on the NIL and transfer portal. And I think the 12-team playoff will become 14 or 16.

But did you see last couple of days when it was announced that Caitlin Clark's Indiana fever are spending $90 million on a new arena? And so there's something about the WNBA. It's a league that got very defensive when you suggested that Caitlin Clark was driving a lot of their ratings growth, almost all of it. What does it tell you that a WNBA team, this is a league that hasn't made a profit, is spending $90 million in Indiana on a basketball arena,

and it's the right move the year after Caitlin Clark arrives. If you don't think she has economic superpowers, you're not paying attention. That is nothing against any other WNBA player. The league is better. She is a supernova. She is a comet. Why would anyone ever get defensive about saying when someone says that their success is defined by this singular moment, this singular person?

Did the NBA and the Bulls really suffer because Michael Jordan came out of nowhere? and took the mantle from Larry Bird and Dr. Jay and turned the Bulls into a global franchise. Are the owners of the Warriors thinking of themselves, man, it was so much more fun before Steph Curry when our franchise was worth about $350 million instead of the $7 billion it's worth today with our brand new arena.

The Indiana fever, the Warriors with their arena, they're doing exactly the right thing. They're taking advantage of the moment in time when they have everybody's interest can funnel a lot of revenue into new projects and get attention for it. And then all of a sudden, it makes everything

they're doing more valuable down the line. They're using Caitlin Clark to build a generationally great franchise and help the league grow because there is so much interest in women sports right now. It's a brilliant, brilliant idea. By the way,

had Adam Silver on for kind of a wide-ranging 30-minute interview this week. He was really, really good. He's really good. And most of what he says, I gave him a platform for it, and I agree with it. But I got into this thing where he said it and I thought about it and I was driving into work today, is that he, and I think the league is saying, listen, we've had six champs in six years. And I think what has happened, we're a much more distracted nation. A lot of it is we're on our phones more than we watch TV. and that it's hard to get us to watch stuff that's not special. You have so many platforms, so many streamers, so many networks, so many cable channels, so many subscriptions to so many different platforms that to get me to watch something and

I'm a sportscaster, there's got to be a special. A UFC fight on a Saturday is special, college football playoff special, World Cup special, Olympic special, NFL once a week special, Caitlin Clark games occasionally special, Otani playoff games, special. all of those that I just mentioned were rewarded this year with big ratings. I think hockey, most of baseball in the NBA, in volume sports, I think it's going to be increasingly difficult for the rest of my lifetime to get ratings in the regular season unless you create special. This is what Fox did to baseball. They said, how about a game in a cornfield?

How about Mets Phillies in Europe? You need more special events. We're becoming an event society. And the dynasties feel special. When Kevin Durand went to the Warriors, though it felt lobsided, their games were events. Shaq and Kobe, events. The problem in the NBA now is the events are maybe the finals. A Knicks Celtic Eastern Conference final would feel like an event.

When you combine load management, where many stars miss big games, games with the new reality of a distracted populace, I think baseball, hockey, and the NBA are going to struggle in the regular seasons going forward. Well, the NBA is trying to fix that, right? With the NBA Cup. The mid-season tournament and the NBA Cup trying to make something that feels more like an event. And to me, those games are a little bit more intense. I love the NBA.

I love NBA playoffs. You talk about Knicks, Celtics, Eastern Conference Finals. That is must-see TV, the intensity level, the level of defense. And I think obviously, and I know Adam talked about this with you on the show and the three-point shooting, like there is a level of intensity that is missing from the regular season. And trying to create that with the NBA Cup is one way to do it. But it's also hard when you don't have a dynasty. and I am a massive, massive fan of dynasties.

I want sports dominance. I want to see history. I want to see teams do it again and again and again. And I want to see them annihilate their opponents. And I want to see them do things that can be compared in history, not just on a season to season basis. And it's getting harder and harder to do that with the NBA. And also, look, the best athletes, Anthony Edwards,

Victor Wenbinoa. They are, they are, she Gilders-Alexander. They are so much fun to watch. Only one of them really has anything

close to the charisma of a Steph Curry. Yeah. Anthony Edwards, of a LeBron James, Anthony Edwards. But he's still growing up and like he's not

connecting with the fans in the same way that these guys did, right? There's something that isn't, that isn't translating for fans, even though I think he's phenomenal and he's so much fun.

That's the challenge, is they need dominance right now. And the Celtics, you know, they're not dominant. Jason Tatum isn't a guy that fans are getting behind. Jalen Brown is not a guy. Fans get behind. The word special. The Celtics won the title because they had the greatest depth. One through eight, they were easily the best team in the league.

Tatum was disappointing in big games. In fact, Jalen Brown was getting the MVP. So even on that team, like Shaq and Kobe both felt generally. Brown and Tatum feel really good. So our championship team now, even on Cleveland, Donovan Mitchell's very good. We don't think he's Jordan or Kobe or LeBron or Steph. And so right now, Luca is great, but his game isn't flashy.

It's like Dirk. It's not a flashy game. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. we could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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Help! Somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor, I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice

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One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coultera podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'll give you this question. You get five things in sports, everything else leaves. So mine would be NFL, college football, sports gambling, NBA playoffs, UFC.

You can't count World Cup in the Olympics. Those are every four years. You have to go through all of sports. You get to keep five things. NFL, college, football, gambling, NBA playoffs, UFC. I like the World Cup a lot, too. What would your five be? What would you get rid of?

What would your five be? And I say this, I loved the baseball playoffs. Yeah. I loved it this year, especially in the National League. I would add World Series. I would take off UFC because I love playoff baseball. It is so intense. It is every pitch.

And it's the same context we're just talking about. During the season, I'm not going to watch that many. baseball games. I'm going to keep track of what's going on. I'm a stack geek, so I love reading about how teams are performing and how certain players are developing. But I'm not going to watch a mid-season game with the same intensity and the same joy that I'm watching a World Series game. Even the past World Series that was essentially a blowout, that last game was so intense and you couldn't turn it off no matter how late it was going to go. I feel the same way about the NBA playoffs. I would not get rid of anything for the NBA. I love the NBA all year round.

I'm going to watch the thunder in the calves. And even though nobody knows who any of those players are, I love the game of basketball that they're all playing and the way they pass amongst themselves, I think is amazing. Obviously, I'm not going to get rid of sports betting. That to me has to be number one. Sports betting, you know, sports betting is the invisible hand influencing the current and future state of sports, I think more than anything else. And so that to me is the umbrella that all of this lives under. The NFL, I wouldn't get rid of a second of the NFL. I cannot live without it. I love it so much. And college football, here's my problem with college football. The games are just too long.

I don't need four and a half hours of college football games. And I think they're great. They're fun. But I can't sit for that long. So if it's going to stay, I need to be a shorter. The NFL is king and so much greater than college football is because it has a commissioner and it's constantly tweaking. It's the same reason UFC is better than boxing.

It has a central voice and is constantly tweaking is that college football is like a really good product poorly run. I mean, essentially the 12-team playoff happened. And Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC and the Pact 12 folding and four teams moving into the big 10, all that happened because Fox and ESPN wanted it to happen. Yeah, totally. They just got tired of college football wasting so many monetization opportunities that Fox and ESPN said, guys, we're going to take it over.

Yeah. And that's what Dana White said. Boxing, you're ridiculous. I'm going to create something, the Fertita family and Dana White. And so college football and boxing, which I loved growing up, have just been poorly managed my entire life. And so Dana White and TV networks changed both and for the better. I mean, college football now, like a 12-team playoff.

You're like, why aren't we? And it's not even done. They're going to keep tweaking it. But why didn't this happen 25, 30 years ago? It's interesting the way you talk about UFC. because I know the sport well. You know, I wrote Chuck Liddell's autobiography with him,

and I've watched more UFC fights than I can count. I would still take a heavyweight boxing match over UFC with the pomp and circumstance any day. Like Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Tyson, Evander Holyfield. I used to be like that. And Dana White, I asked Dana about that because Dana grew up with boxing and so did I. I used to be like that. And I still love a great boxing match.

But they're so infrequent now. There's like one every other year. I mean, you got, you know, Logan Paul is like one of the attractions. Hey, let's put Connor McGregor and boxing loves. Yeah, it's gimmicky now. It's not the same thing. But I'm saying historically, if I could have back a, a brilliant heavyweight boxer,

or if I could even have Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao in their prime, I would rather have that than UFC. It's just more interesting to me. I just like it more. I'm not anti-UFC,

but if I could have boxing at its height, I would take boxing at its height over UFC at its height. Yeah, I used to be like that. I'm not anymore. And I also think, I mean, I'm in the UFC. business at the volume.

Yeah. And the one thing, I think UFC is so brilliant. They picked a day. It's Saturday night. You know what you're getting. You don't get bad cards. You get either sensational cards or good cards. Boxing was a coin flip, whether you were pissed off at the end of the night for

buying the pay-per-view and saw nothing for three hours. By the way, and then the fight would start an hour and a half late. It was like watching guns and roses going to a concert. They're going to hit the stage two hours late. Just smoke another bowl and enjoy your night. Dude, I remember getting together with my buddies in high school. And one guy would buy the Tyson fight. And we'd be all sitting around.

We'd be jacked. We're like, this is what we're doing tonight. It's going to be amazing. We don't have to be going. We don't have to go look for a party. We were such losers. We weren't going to find a party anyways. You're like, this is it.

We're in. We're doing this tonight. And then Tyson would knock the guy. guy out in 30 seconds. We're like, oh, fuck, what do we do now? We get in some guy's minivan, cruising around town, listening to the Smiths, and hoping we can find something to do. Chad Millman, sharper square, all odds provided by Draft Kings. He's a co-host at the favorites. Good seeing you, buddy. Good to see you too, brother. Have a great weekend. Go football. The volume.

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.

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