The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Betting The NFL On A Short Week, Sharp or Square, Michigan vs. Ohio State

Episode Date: November 23, 2023

Colin gives his take on why it’s so difficult to bet on the NFL on a short Thanksgiving week (3:30). Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network, stops by for a round of “Sharp or Sq...uare,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for the Week 12 NFL slate, including the Thanksgiving day games! Plus, the guys dive into the headlining game of the college football slate, Michigan vs. Ohio State. (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) 7:00 - Lions vs Packers 8:36 - Colts vs Bucs 10:15 - Cardinals vs Rams 11:50 - Saints vs Falcons 13:55 - Chargers vs Ravens 15:20 - Bills vs Eagles 22:05 - Cowboys vs Commanders 23:38 - Texans vs Jaguars 25:30 - Broncos vs Browns 27:40 - Raiders vs Chiefs 30:39 - Michigan vs Ohio State Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 Chad Millman, all of the odds provided by draft kings. Now, at the very end, we're going to do about five minutes on Michigan, Ohio State. So I want you to stick around for that sharper square. Where I bring in Chad, I have feelings about games, and he tells me if I'm right or wrong. I don't have a vibe for any games this week. I think I like Detroit a lot. I like Arizona, I think. I would take the commanders and the points, even though I think Dallas will win. Twelve points is a ton. I don't feel, I don't, it's just, I'm glad that I don't do a blazing five on Thanksgiving. I said last week, I thought I really
Starting point is 00:03:47 like the numbers. This week, I don't. And so off a four in one week, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do a blazing five on, on, you know, short rest. Underdogs often do very well on Thanksgiving. Like, I think Dallas is going to beat the commanders. Twelve, twelve and a half points. I can't go there. So I'm going to bring in Chad for some thoughts on that. I think it's just one of the best four-day periods of the year right now. I'm thankful for that, that, you know, we're two-thirds through the season. And I think if you look up and around, take out Joe Burroughs injury, he's out for the season, I think most of the teams we thought would be in this space are. I didn't have the Jets as a playoff team with Aaron Rogers. I certainly didn't with Zach Wilson. About the only
Starting point is 00:04:40 team I feel I've missed on, I thought Seattle would be better than this. They have really regressed in the last three weeks, really regressed. Baltimore is better than I thought, although if you've listened to me for years, you know how much respect I have for Harbaugh, the owner, the GM, Lamar Jackson. But I don't think it's been a wildly surprising year. Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Dallas,
Starting point is 00:05:07 those felt like teams that would be the top of their division. San Francisco, a Detroit, feel like teams, New Orleans, would be at the top of their division. Kansas City, top of their division. Now, the chargers are not as good as I thought, I thought they were a playoff team. And my guess today is they won't be. I can't wait to hear Chad's thoughts on the Ravens Chargers.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But I think by and large, all of us feel this season's turned out largely like we think. Again, I don't think Seattle has delivered as much as I thought they would. Baltimore is better than I thought they would. But I didn't buy into the Jets. I think the league's getting easier to predict on a wide level. Take the best quarterback if he has a competent coach. Week to week, who knows? So a Thanksgiving edition, Sharper Square, at the end, some thoughts on Michigan, Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Let's bring in Chad Millman, the CCO of the Action Network. All odds are provided, again, by Draft Kings. All right. Very good week, 4 and 1, Sharper Square, Chad Millman. CCO Action Network, all odds provided by Draft Kings. So after a clunky start, a lot of turbulence first two weeks have actually been, you know, kind of break-even or a winning week for a couple months. My theory is the gap between really good quarterback play and bad quarterback play is wider than ever,
Starting point is 00:06:33 which makes predicting the NFL on a macro level pre-season predictions. I'm like 11 to 14 teams. I feel really good. The Burrell injury hurts my Bengals prediction. but so this weekend, I'm going to go back and lean again, regardless of the lines, and the something I believe in, which this gap is getting worse, and now offensive lines are beat up. So the better quarterbacks have the ability to overcome a little bit of that, the bad ones
Starting point is 00:07:01 don't at all. So here we go. I know the number's bad, but Lions minus seven and a half against the Packers. The Chargers lost that game. Green Bay didn't win it. Austin Echler, fumbling. In your luck ratings, Green Bay had to be up there. Detroit, the perfect Sean Peyton told me, the best team to coach, you win and play like crap.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Detroit won and played like crap. I know the hook's bad news. There is a massive gap between these two teams. Packers also beat up. I'd swallow it. I think the lions blow out the Packers, sharper square. Starts are totally with you on this one. And a lot of times what wise guys look at is,
Starting point is 00:07:42 how does a quarterback bounce back after making horrible throws and bad decisions? What do we see from Jared Goff? Three picks. They were out of that game. 17 points in the final four minutes, 20 seconds. He was laser focused. The wise guys are all over the lines here. Also, there are a lot of trends that will support backing the big underdog on Thanksgiving Day.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And one more thing that adds to. your idea of, look, they've got a great offensive line. They've got a great quarterback. They've got really good edge players, really good running backs. They are a better team. They're a better coach team. But also, when you're getting on the short rest, you want to go with a team that has more talent. We even see it happening on these Thursday games, right? You would normally see a Thursday game. If there's a bad line, you'd see the underdogs getting a lot of action. You don't. You see the favorites getting the action. So this is a little bit like that. Okay. This is my second favorite pick of the week. And I like the Colts minus two and a half
Starting point is 00:08:50 hosting the box. So really smart offensive coaches off a buy. Now, I took Philly over Kansas City because both coaches offensive and Sariani's now four and all off a buy. So I thought it muted some of the advantage. But I get a really sharp offensive coach off a buy against the defensive coach. No by Todd Bulls. I thought it was one of my stronger plays. I'm going to take the Colts minus two and a half at home, rested, reasonably healthy, sharper square.
Starting point is 00:09:22 No consensus. The early reporting I've heard is that wise guys like the Bucks, that they've been playing better than people are giving them credit for, that Baker has been keeping his team in games. A lot of times, if you look at some of these games, even last week against San Francisco, they were a player or two away from covering. You look earlier in the year, they were playing the Eagles, they were six-point dogs, they were a couple of Mike Evans drops away from covering. Like this is a team that has consistently been hanging around.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So, and that's with good teams. So now if they're going to be playing a mediocre to bad team whose defense is not very good, who are still playing Gardner Minshu, it's an odd thing to be backing the Colts as a favorite. with Gardner Minshu, I feel like you are leaning a little bit too much into the new coach theme and not necessarily the players on the field theme. I'm going to take Arizona minus one hosting the Rams. So it's one thing to play the Rams when Cooper Cup is hurt in the game. Another thing preparing when you're not going to face him and you know it. Puka Niccoa is a great story, but he doesn't separate. They don't have a separating receiver.
Starting point is 00:10:36 He's his own beater. In the end, Rams are still a rebuilding roster. Arizona beat Atlanta. Tough out. Played really well at times against Houston. They're at home. The Rams were completely outplayed for three quarters. Seattle just can't get stops on third down.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Arizona will. I'm going to take Arizona, Kyler Murray at home, sharper square. So it's a little sharp. And what I mean by that is the wise guys started playing Arizona when they were underdogs at home. They've been really impressed with Kyler Murray
Starting point is 00:11:07 in the two games he's been back. especially last week. He kept them in that game. They covered that game at five and a half, which was a big number. The wise guys started betting early in the week on Kyler Murray against the Texans. So now you're looking at a game
Starting point is 00:11:22 in which Kylo and the Cardinals are now favorites, right? So if you think the Cardinals are going to win, you're still going to be on the right side because you're betting the minus one. I will tell you that historically, the trend is when a team flips from being an underdog to being a favorite,
Starting point is 00:11:39 the numbers work against them. So what you really need to be thinking about is, why didn't I get this number a little bit earlier? Because you would have liked it more at plus one. I get, I get you got to like play the lines that are in front of you right now, but there's a lot of games on the board to play where you're not trying to buck some trends.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I'm going to take the Saints plus one at the Falcons off a buy. I think they have a much better roster. I think there's a little turmoil inside of Atlanta. I think Arthur Smith is smart, but he's outspoken, blunt. I'm not sure the team loves him. I think this is a experienced quarterback, better roster off a buy,
Starting point is 00:12:19 older team in spots getting a little healthy. Younger teams don't need that by. When they're playing well, they want to play the next week. Older teams always appreciate time off. I think I'd take the Saints as a one-point dog, Sharper Square.
Starting point is 00:12:30 It's like you're trying to pick the corner TV games. I don't know what's going on here. Well, I'm picking, what I like. Well, look, I think New Orleans is the right side. I agree. Desmond Ritter is not an NFL caliber quarterback. They have not been using Bejohn Robinson in a way that anyone thought they would. I mean, this was a guy that everyone expected to be a runaway for offensive rookie of the year. And don't you think the guys in the locker room are wondering why they're not using him? He's obviously a huge talent. Yes. It's, it's, you have to be thinking if you're a
Starting point is 00:13:04 player in the Falcons right now. Wait a second. Arthur Smith was a genius when we were using Cordaril Patterson, but we've got a talent who might be once in a generation, and we can't figure out how to get this guy in space and make him the perfect weapon for everything we want to do when we don't have a quarterback who can really throw the ball down field. So yeah, the saints are the right side here because you're getting them off by. They're older. The challenge here is that Derrick Carr has been terrible in the red zone. And the reason the Saints have gotten better in the red zone and they started to turn their season around is because of Tate's Hill. I will also tell you, Dennis Allen, the past 20 years, 140-something coaches in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:13:47 he is one of the least profitable against the spread in any capacity. So this is kind of a game where if you like it, you're still playing with fire. All right. Generally, I would take the hook, Chargers getting three and a half at home, but I've been saying this for two months. I think the Ravens are probably the most complete team in the league. Mark Andrews won't play. But the Chargers defense made Jordan Love look special. It's a bad defense. I know it's the hook.
Starting point is 00:14:20 There is no home field advantage for the Chargers. It does not exist. I think the Ravens could blow them out, sharper square. Totally square. The Ravens have not been the side for the wise guys this week. The number opened at four and a half, got bet down to four, now it's down to three and a half. Look, the Chargers, nobody believes in Brandon Staley. We have said it all year.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We don't think he's a very good coach. The wise guys consistently bet against him when he's a favorite. When he's an underdog and they're at home, it's a different scenario. And their weapons on offense are just so good. And you talk about luck, right? What did the Packers have last week? They also had Keenan Allen dropping a third down catch near the goal line that would have put them in first and goal. He dropped a touchdown pass.
Starting point is 00:15:08 There were a lot of sort of inconsistencies in the way games normally play out that helped the Packers win that game in addition to the Chargers defense just being terrible. So the wise guys like the Chargers here with the hook because they're dogs and it's the only get right spot they're going to find. I'm going to take Buffalo minus three against Philadelphia. here's the reason why. Short week just played Kansas City in a rematch of the Super Bowl. The following week for Philadelphia, it's the San Francisco 49ers. It's a bit of a tweener game. The world now is selling all Buffalo stock. But if you watch them against the Jets, they were more creative. They used more motion. Clearly, Ken Dorsey, right, that was seen as a shortcoming within the staff. Buffalo minus three, they win. It shocks a lot of people, but this is a brutal, brutal spot for Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:15:58 The classic sandwich game, Bills plus three, sharper square. Look, it's totally sharp. And thank God you brought it up because when we got to the segment where I'm trying to convince you at games, I was going to be like, how are you not taking Buffalo? Totally the sharp side. The number was at three and a half. It got that down to three. You mentioned luck rankings before, right?
Starting point is 00:16:17 The Philadelphia Eagles are one of the three luckiest teams in the NFL this year. The Buffalo Bills are one of the three most unlucky teams in the NFL this year. there is a massive gap. Just look at a couple games that have happened the past few weeks, right? The Eagles, what they did on Monday night football,
Starting point is 00:16:33 they won the game because Travis Kelsey fumbled, a luck play, and because a player dropped a touchdown pass, a luck play. The Buffalo Bills, how do they lose
Starting point is 00:16:42 to the Denver Broncos? They had 12 men on the field, on the field for a field goal that the Broncos missed, they got to do it again, they lost. How do they lose to the Patriots? Mack Jones driving down the field,
Starting point is 00:16:52 a couple of sporadic, inconsistent plays, that factors into it, right? So, yes, the wise guys are on the bills in this spot. It's a good spot for them to get healthy. One of the thing that you have to consider, and we started to see it a little bit this past week. The bills traded for Rousseau-Douglas at the trade deadline in October 31st. The bills started doing horribly this year and going on their roller coaster ride of inconsistency
Starting point is 00:17:15 when they lost D'Davius White against Miami in early October. Then they lost Matt Milano the next week in a loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars in London, right? So the defense has been struggling because they don't have any playmakers. They traded for Russell Douglas. Last week was his first, was his third game, his first big game, two picks, one fumble recovery. And he started to look like the playmaker the bills need in the secondary. When you are going against Devante Smith, when you're going against AJ Brown, you're going to need someone who is physical, who can play on those receivers and make plays in the secondary. So that's one thing that I think could be a next factor in this game.
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Starting point is 00:21:51 Both are, you know, we know who the best. better team is. That's an egregiously high number. I think Sam Hal, if you look at who the cowboys have beaten, giants, jets, Rams when Stafford got hurt, Carolina. It's a lot of bad quarterbacks. I don't think Sam Hal's bad. I think he deserves another year with an offensive-minded coach. I think Sam Hal's actually okay in spots. I watch them against Philadelphia. He can make all the big boy throws. I watch them against Denver. He can make all the big boy throws. I think this is actually a pretty competitive game. I take the 12 and a half, sharper square. Totally sharp. When you're talking about division matchups like this. The road team that is the underdog has a 53% cover rate the past
Starting point is 00:22:31 five years. So that's on the edge of where you want to be. But then you put in the factor that it's such a big number in a division game. That raises the factors a little bit more. There's a lot of things going your way when you want to bet on the commanders here. Dak not being a good quarterback against the spread on Thanksgiving is another big factor. There is, Some hesitancy, like this line was at 11. You would have thought professional betters would have hammered this line at 11. Over the last 24, 36 hours, it's going up. 12 and a half, it's trending towards 13.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You're going to see the buyback. Wise guys want to bet on the commanders at this bigger number. But it is not as much of a consensus as you would think. But I'm with you. All right. Yeah. So we always do a talk me into a game. I kind of think the Jaguars got doused by the Texans.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I'd probably take them here as a one and a half point favorite. Don't love it. Texans are better and consistent. They didn't play particularly well against Arizona. Still one. That's a really good trend and trait when you can play poorly and win. My guess is the sharps are on CJ Stroud. But Jacksonville got doused two weeks ago, so I'd probably take them because I like Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Talk me into the side. Wise guys are on CJ Stroud. They are just consistently seeing. something in him that they frankly haven't seen in Trevor Lawrence, who has been inconsistent, who misses throws. You watch CJ Stroud, there was a play last week. The guy got leveled, completely leveled. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Had to come out for a play. The next play, it's third and 17. They didn't even hesitate. He gets the ball, runs out of the pocket. He's got someone chasing him. He can make one throw to one guy, and it's a rope to tank down on the sideline to go third and 17. The guy just knows how to play quarterback
Starting point is 00:24:24 and has been proving it. He's preternaturally good, right? Talk about MVP as this guy was at 201 before the season. Now he's less than 20 to 1. It's actually weird to me that this team is an underdog at home where he's 5-0 against the spread, by the way. And I think that part of the problem is when you get a team like the Texans
Starting point is 00:24:44 that is power rated so low when the season begins, every bookmaker will tell you, we can't just automatically jump the number by 10 points. Like they need to gradually do it, right? It's like coming off of a bad medicine, right? Like you need to gradually come off it a little bit. So they have not fully changed their power writing on the Texans because it's weird to me that they're dogs at home right now.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And you're getting the hook. Okay, there's always a game I completely miss on. I, you know, the Denver Broncos game fascinates me. And I have a feeling that's it. I feel like Denver keeps kind of winning the same way where I'm not sure that the better team and then Russell makes a play.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But then I look at their defense and it's really young and hyper-aggressive. Simmons now is making instrumental plays. I already like their top corner of Patrick Sartan. Can Denver win again? Is that the dumpster dive I missed? No. The wise guys are on Cleveland in this game.
Starting point is 00:25:48 The line opened two and a half. It's been bet down to one and a half. There's a difference. And a couple weeks ago, we talked about Cleveland and Baltimore. And I think I tried to convince you that Cleveland was the side in this game. And they ended up covering in this game. And the reason why I like Cleveland in that game was because their defense is offensive. And what I mean by that is they have playmakers at every single level of the defense.
Starting point is 00:26:17 It's not just Miles Garrett, who might be one of the best players in the NFL right now, but it's guys like Grant Delpit who are leading that team in tackles, right? And he is playing in the box, but he is also playing in coverage. They make plays that put the Brown's offense in a position to score. They don't always have to be getting a kickoff going down 75 yards or getting a punt from deep in their territory. The Brown's defense puts them in a good position. I can't say the same about the Broncos. They're better.
Starting point is 00:26:47 They're holding teams to fewer points. Their tackling is still really bad. Like we saw that against Minnesota. They could not tackle anybody. And the Browns are a heavy rush team with now and Dorian Thompson, a very mobile quarterback. So the wise guys like the Browns here. The only caveat, I would say, is that the number is moved.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And so it's becoming harder and harder to bet on it. You're essentially betting on the Browns to win at this point. Any other dumpster diving? Can I interest you in the Las Vegas Raiders as eight and a half, eight or nine, depending on where you're looking, point underdogs hosting the Kansas City Chiefs? So look, the Chiefs, they have been virtually unbeatable. And I like the Eagles to this past week. I think we made the Eagles last week in executive decision. And the second half in games, it's almost like.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Andy Reid recognizes that his receivers are not playmakers. And so he's immediately playing the clock in the second half. They scored, what, two touchdowns in the second half in the past five games. They had 17 points at halftime this past week, ended the game with 17 points. There's a lot of stuff to unpack for this team. So now you're asking in a division game for them to go on the road and beat a team in the Raiders that still has a very aggressive defense and a very good pass rush. and obviously one of the best defensive ends
Starting point is 00:28:15 and edge rushers and Max Crosby. So, and Aiden O'Connell has shown stuff, right? Like he's throwing the ball down field. He's not afraid. He's very accurate. He can make throws. He's not mobile, but he can make throws. He can totally make throws.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So it's a big number. And Patrick Mahomes, for all his success, when he's favored by three or less, other than this past week when you and I decided to take the Eagles, generally covers. Three and a half or more, he is way under 500 against the spread. So this is a spot where you want to fade Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, I think this is a smart pick. Also, Antonio Pierce is fighting and that staff is fighting for seven-figure contracts. Yep. Right? Like Mark Davis probably wants to hire this staff because he's paying Gruden and he's paying Josh McDaniels. He would love to get a coach on the cheap. So this staff knows they've got probably a 65, 30, 70, 30 chance to land these jobs, just show effort.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I don't even think you have to win. I think if they're consistently showing effort, I mean, they overachieve last week and they lost. That was a good loss. For an interim coach as a big dog, that was a good loss. Think about this. How about a 2420 lost Kansas City? He may get an extension right there.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Think about this. Think about the chargers who have had Brandon Staley, who has underperformed. The defense that he is supposed to be a specialist in has been terrible. he has not gotten the best out of an unbelievably talented offense, the Chargers won't fire him. Probably because the Chargers are cheap and don't want to turn over the staff and have to pay two coaches at the same time. The flip side is you've got a Raiders team that is as consistently bad as the Chargers, but Mark Davis is willing to turn that staff over and pay hundreds of millions of dollars in excess coaching fees to try to find the winner.
Starting point is 00:30:09 That's admirable. way, like you're getting losers, but at least one guy is willing to spend to try to find the formula to win. Okay. Michigan, Ohio State. 21 straight times in this meeting, the team that has rushed for more has won, and Michigan is a better rush team. Ohio State is eight than the big 10, rushing better in the last three to four weeks, but Michigan's the better run team. I think they have the better offensive line. They're at home. I they have the better quarterback with C.J. Stroud, the Buckeyes were blown out the last two years. I think Michigan wins. If Harbaugh was on the sideline, I think it would be convincing.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I think without him, it does matter. It's closer. It's three and a half for the Buckeyes, all odds provided by Draft Kings. I'm interested where the sharps would go on this. I like Michigan. With Harbaugh, I think it would be like plus five, plus four, and I would absolutely take Michigan. It's a stayaway game for me without Harbaugh. What are the wise guys think? Well, Michigan is the side. And think about this. When you're coaching during the game as a head coach,
Starting point is 00:31:17 and Chuck Noel used to say this all the time, right? His job is Monday to Friday. And when he's on the sideline on Sunday, it's up to the players and what they've been doing and how they've been practicing and how they are executing based on what they did and what they learn from his coaching during the week. What's Jim Harbaugh doing on the sidelines?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Fourth down calls, timeouts, right? This is obviously a heightened example that his coaching staff is going to have to manage. But this team is in a different place mentally. Like they feel aggrieved, right? Remember Ryan Day getting mocked, Ohio against the world when they needed a miracle to beat Notre Dame? This really does feel like to the Michigan players and the mission coaching staff, Michigan against the world.
Starting point is 00:32:09 The guy has been suspended. The guy's been suspended multiple times this year. And like they keep winning. People keep coming after them. I like Michigan here. Happy Thanksgiving to the Action Network. You, Chad Millman, four days of football. Can't wait.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Such a good time of the year. This is, I'm not a big fan of wearing sweaters and sitting into a hot kitchen. So I don't love Thanksgiving. But I'll say this. I think the Michigan, Ohio State game may get 18 million viewers. I don't remember a college football regular season game that felt like this. There was a Georgia Bama game a few years ago that was close. Georgia hadn't won a title yet.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And we kind of felt like this was their team. But it's weird being on the Michigan side. Because if you're on the Michigan side, you are labeled as a cheater. And of course, I have always been morally flexible like all of us are. I just acknowledge it. Yes. So we all speed. We've all written off a glass of wine that really wasn't supposed to be on our taxes.
Starting point is 00:33:20 We've all, we've all, you know, shoplifted major appliances. I mean, those kind of things. I tend to think with Harbaugh, like Pete Carroll at SC, he's always been a push the envelope guy. And I think college sports, Bill Self falls into this. Remember the, remember the claims? Oh, yeah. I think Jim Beheim, I think the NFL would be far more punitive and they police you more arduously. But the NCAA is this fuzzy, nebulous bureaucracy where everybody suspects their neighbor is cheating a little. so I think it promotes push the envelope among staffs. So I don't view myself as a morally, this is not a morally conclusive stand that I'm backing a cheater.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It is a push the envelope industry on Wall Street. You don't think guys go to lunch and share information. It's called insider trading. You think Martha Stewart was the last one to really do it of note? And I think there are industries. I remember when I worked at ESPN, and you're supposed to leave a window open for rivals to compete for contracts. So if you have the NBA, you can't renegotiate that. There's a window where Fox or NBC or CBS could come in.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Really think that's how it works. Really think presidents aren't going to dinner with commissioner, stop by for cigars, some cognac. So I just think there are industries. Tech is another one. You read the Steve Jobs, Walter Isaacson biography. It's day-to-day you're pushing stuff. It's poker playing. It's it's bluffs.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's a bit of a grift. And so I think college sports almost promotes it with this fuzzy bureaucracy that gives unequal punitive punishment to certain programs. It's the old Tark joke. The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky. They put Cleveland State on probation. So it's like, I don't think I'm back in a cheater. I think he went over the line instead of going 78 on the freeway, it was 94 with his middle finger out to the conference.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But I'm not deeply bothered by it. So look, Colin, we've all crushed up sleeping pills, put it in our parents' food, and then use their hand to sign the will that used to be going to your sister and now it's going to you. That's totally fine. I never understood what the big deal was with this particular scandal because the saying goes, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Like,
Starting point is 00:36:10 we're going up in arms about sign stealing. Every single coach covers their mouth when they are putting the play into the game. You know why they do that? Because they know somebody's watching and is going to try to steal the sign. Like, it's insane. Also, everybody changes their signs and signals for big games.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You don't, Super Bowl, playoff games, Rose Bowl, Auburn, Alabama, those are the games you change? Ask Peyton Manning, you change the signs for those games. Now, you can use them back-to-back if you're hosting Rutgers in Maryland. Okay, those games aren't on national TV. But the reality is, these big spot games, Peyton Manning isn't doing the same signals. These guys change for playoff games, division rivalry.
Starting point is 00:36:59 When you're playing the Ravens the second time if you're the Steelers, you're not using the same signs, same audibles. Stuff changes constantly. Colin, we've all broken into a colleague's email to send really inappropriate comments to your boss when you're both going for the same promotion. It's totally fine. That's what people do in the game of life,
Starting point is 00:37:23 in the game of professional media, and in the game of football, you steal signs. Happy Thanksgiving. You too, brother. The volume. There's so much to be thankful for over the holiday weekend. Friends and family food and football, especially NFL. New customers at Draft King's Sportsbook, download the app,
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