The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Broncos Will Win AFC West, Chiefs Dynasty Over? Josh Allen Best Player In NFL, Rams Rattle Darnold

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Colin’s joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and Out” to break down all the NFL action. They start with the Broncos beating the Chiefs to blow the AFC West race wide open & they credit Sean Payton for building a stacked roster while still paying  big dead cap money to Russell Wilson, and debate whether the Chiefs dynasty is officially over (3:30). They move to the Rams win over the Seahawks and Colin argues that if the roles were reversed and Matt Stafford had thrown 4 interceptions instead of Sam Darnold…. the game wouldn’t have been close, and they agree the Rams have Darnold’s number (16:45). They pivot to the Bears walk-off win over the Vikings and they both agree that J.J. McCarthy does NOT look like a starting quarterback, and that the contrast between McCarthy and Caleb Williams could not be more stark.They also tip their cap to Ben Johnson for creating a winning culture in Chicago (30:00). They recap the Bills win over the Bucs and Colin declares Josh Allen the best football player on the planet and that he IS the Bills franchise. They argue it was a must win game for the Bills and a loss could have been the beginning of the end for Sean McDermott (41:15).  They recap the Ravens ugly win over the Browns in Shedeur Sanders debut (54:00), and argue the Packers are afraid of turning Jordan Love loose in the passing game after their narrow win over the Giants (56:45).  They give kudos to both Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy for hanging 41 on the Cardinals in Purdy’s first game back from injury (1:02:00). Finally, they move to college football and Colin argues that the transfer portal and NIL have created incredible parity at the top of the college football ranks and give their takeaways of the top contenders (1:14:00).  All lines provided by hardrock.bet (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He is everywhere during the football season. And my Blazing 5 is on a freaking heater. four and oh today. I couldn't get a break in September. I'm getting every break. When Shadour Sanders came in, I was like, wait, Cleveland Leeds 1610. I've got the Browns plus eight and a half, just no pick sixes. And he actually had a nice final dry, a little spin move, throwing the ends on you. Okay. I was, it was really entertaining. So let's start Denver 22, Kansas City 19. So the Broncos are now nine and two. The chiefs are a 500 team. They're a hell of a 500 team. Kansas City's a good team. Bo Nix, 2437, 295. Again, no big mistakes. What's interesting

against Spags and that defense, John, you know, Bo's really struggled. But for the first time in nine weeks, they scored on their opening drive. And it was as if Bo and Sean found a rhythm certainly on enough drives to get field goals that they hadn't had. But it was one of those games when you watch Sam Darnold unravel and you watch a lot of quarterbacks today, there were some ugly quarterback play. This is where Bo Nix is really good. He doesn't take sacks.

He can move the chains with his legs. He's really good in these big fourth quarter drives. I know he drives everybody nuts. But there is something to be said about today against Mahomes milking that clock, making that big throw down the stretch. What's your interpretation of Nixon and what you saw today? Yeah, I mean, that final drive was huge, right? He had two third downs, third and 15 when he scrambled to his right. They need to get him on the move more often, I think. I mean, sometimes. Same.

They've really tried to push the ball down the field, and even the day, some of his, a lot of his incompletions because his numbers look good are on the deep ball. He was not skipping balls like he did whatever a Thursday a week ago. It was that deep ball. He's still overthrowing it. But he's good on the move. And then the third and five that Sutton made the play, and then that second and eight, which essentially sealed the game.

So three enormous passes. I actually thought when Kelsey scored. Same. I mean, Travis Kelsey and Chris Jones, I mean, you talk about, These guys, I mean, you knew they would bring it. Both of them dominated today. I thought that that second time that when Mims returned that punt and they were in the red zone and they didn't come out of with touchdown, I'm like, I think they're going to look back

and God, they're going to be kicking themselves on that one. And he just, he found a way. I mean, their defense is, both these defense. I mean, that could be the AFC championship game right there. John, how about the late window? Cleveland's defense, Rams, Seattle, Denver, Kansas, City. And Robert Sala is doing an unfriken believable job with nobody. He's got, you know, Winter's a good player. That kid's everywhere. But no, I kind of look at this game. And I think the

Chiefs were 11 and 0 last year and one possession games in their own five. And my takeaway on that isn't that they were 11 and 0, not just that, but why are they in so many close games? And I think you see this with Buffalo. You start paying these quarterbacks $400 million. And John, you look at Buffalo's defense. It's really okay. It's just okay. It's got a couple splash players. You look at Kansas City.

You know, they don't have much of a run game. Kelsey, again, rises to the moment. Chris Jones has not had a good year. He had a good day today. But I think it's the reality is when, you know, when you start looking at roster, Seattle, where they're paying Sam, very, very workable wage. Indianapolis, Daniel Jones.

It looks, it's unbelievable. roster. So, you know, some of it with Kansas City is this is the reality. Remember when Drew Breeze was in New Orleans, he took a big salary and they dipped for two years. And then he took a team friendly deal at the end and they had great rosters with Sean Payton. How much credit do you give? You know, Sean Payton's funny. I think he's the best coach in football. Nobody wants to admit to a great coach because he can be a little bit of a smart ass. But John, they're still paying Russell Wilson and this roster is staffed. Where I give them a lot of credit is remember when they gave, they had that game his first year where they played Miami and gave up 70 points.

And there was so much momentum. And you went, this Fance Joseph thing is just not going to work. And you look back a couple years later, they have a potential all-time defense. I mean, they might break the Sacks record. The blitz he called, you just talked about defensive coordinators. I mean, the amount, if you combine the salaries of the defensive coordinators in the late window, it's a lot of money. These guys are getting paid. that blitz that he called did sack Patrick Mahomes.

I mean, that was big time. Sometimes you've got to mix it up against an all-time great player and kind of confuse them. I mean, you're playing, I mean, the coaching quarterback combination, one of if not the greatest combination of all time. So, Vance Joseph, to me, deserves, they play the Chiefs really well now two years in a row, and they're missing their best defensive players. So obviously, you know, Sean and, you know, he's been very, I would say, insistent on Bo Nix. He's kept his mouth shut when he's really struggled because he doesn't

want this guy to go into the tank. And I think the team has just kind of, you know, stood by his back because whatever, that Thursday night game was pretty ugly. I mean, that was, that was as bad as it got. And today, you get a little extra time. I think Romo mentioned it that they spent a lot of time just kind of getting back to the basics, like getting it out of the huddle. You know, I think sometimes you think it's like you get rushed. It's like getting in out of the huddle. Bo Nix was saying, Coach, you're getting me the plays too late. And they worked on stuff that you don't even think. But that's sometimes you've got to take a step back before you worry about like, what's up with his accuracy?

Well, if he's all rattled on all this other shit, then you're already screwed before you even started. That's what we saw with Caleb Williams in the first three weeks. His operational stuff was a mess. Now, it's still not pretty, but that's not the problem. He may struggle, but the operational stuff, I do think with Bo Nix, he's a really tightly wound guy. he's very intense. And so I think Sean was adding to that anxiety by getting it in late. And you and I talked about this the last couple of weeks.

He played nervous. And I think now we look at it. We're like, oh, that's why. Like, he's a tightly wound guy. He's incredibly hard on himself. I talked to somebody who knew him before the season. They're like, that kid is hard on himself. Like, a little like Lamar Jackson just doesn't savor wins.

Like losses are crushing. And so, okay, then Sean's getting the plays in late. Sean's demanding so early in the season. And Sean's never been a great September coach anyway because he just unloads the playbook on him. But I thought today, Bo, less frenetic. I thought that final drive was like,

I mean, John, that was a little Jaydon Daniels of last year. You're like, wow, that's a pro bowl level drive, like two big throws. And they just, the way Sean and Bo melt the clock, I mean, that, that, I mean, even when Romo and Nance said at the end,

they're like, hey, if the chiefs don't make tackle here, get down at the one and they didn't. Peyton and Bo had thought it out. They just took a knee. They were not going to let Kansas City control it. They took a knee. And, you know, I, I don't think, I don't think Kansas City is a bad team. I just think the margins get really skinny when you pay Kelsey Jones, Mahomes. I mean, the hell, they had to get rid of Joe Tooney. You know, it's just, this is the reality of having a $400 million quarterback. The other thing is this. When you go to five Super Bowls in six years, and I think the year you missed it, you lost in the AFC championship game.

Where are you drafting every round? You know, 29, 30, 31, 32. And that's not just the first round. We're talking the third and the fourth round. So your margin for error, you're not getting the pick of the litter each round. This isn't like the second round. You get to pick the four best players that are still on the board in the 30s or early 40s.

You're picking at the end at 60. So the pressure on Vech and the scouting staff is really, really high. And I think that's why they were kind of hesitant to make a bold trade because you need the picks. And especially like, let's face it, Kelsey and Chris Jones are coming down the home stretch here. Right. So these guys, they're no longer 17 game, elite guy. They give you however many games during the regular season, hopefully the playoff games. But like you are going to need to make some hay in the draft.

But even this year, let's say they end up going 10 and 7 because they got some winnable games on their schedule. Let's just say this is the year they get bouncing in the first round. They're still, it's not like they're drafted seven. They're still drafted 21st. So they are just, you know, sometimes, you know, the Ravens have had a good little stretch here of the Starks and the Wiggins and they've hit up. Like, that's, there's a little dumb luck to that because a lot's out of your control, right? The guy you see this year with Jehad Campbell being there for Howie, some of years that guy goes pick 16. And you're just like, we don't really like any of these picks.

It's why historically you get a lot of the good teams, John Snyder, Belichick, they would go back. Yes. Because, like, we just don't feel comfortable. here. And it just, it's very draft dependent. I watch a lot of college football. I'm like, I don't know how many blue chippers are in this upcoming draft. Definitely not when a lot of these teams in the 20s

are going to be draft. So it just puts a lot of pressure. And the Chiefs put them, I think Coach Reed and Patrick would be the first, they put themselves into a hole. You start Owen 2, you lose that crazy Jags game. You shouldn't be like on tilt in the middle of November on the road at a 8 and 2 team.

Well, right? The season shouldn't, and it's the season technically not on the line. But the division streaks over tonight. The Broncos essentially won the division in I, Colin. They played the commanders next and then the Raiders. Yeah, so I had picked Denver to win this division. I picked Kansas City. He had finished second, Chargers, third, and Raiders 4. So I've had a good year on picks. And a pretty good year, I picked New England to me, my shocking team in Seattle to make the playoffs. So it's been a good football and pro football year for me.

But one of the things I really believe about Kansas City is that when you, when you, you look at the Chiefs, a lot of the reality of playing these big, intense seasons is there's a fatigue, it's more hits. You end up having, I mean, I guess just kind of the way I look at Kansas City's run is like how I looked at New England, is that before the season, I said, the dynasty's over. And I said, they'll make the playoffs. They'll probably, in another Super Bowl or two. But you just can't keep doing it. You can, the eye test tells you that defense two years ago was faster than now and Chris Jones was more dominating. When you take Chris Jones out of his prime and like Kelsey, he'll give you great games, but not a great season,

that defense isn't the same, John. It's like, it's like the Rams got lucky when Donald left, or when Aaron Donald left, because they had drafted and hit on like five different defensive players in the box. So the defense, about a year after he left, are like, oh, hell, it's still, nasty. But they hit on five defensive picks. Five of them were all, even the third round, Kobe Turner was good. But when Chris Jones, the last two years, especially this year, isn't as dominant, the rest of the players are good players. And so they had to let go of Sneed at corner, and they have a couple guys get dinged up. And when I watch them play today, it's still well coached, that's still good. But Seattle's defense, or the Rams defense today,

just turn the sound down. The Ramsey fence is just, there's nothing open anywhere. There's stuff open today that Bo Nix and Peyton took advantage of. Yeah, I mean, part of it is in Belichick and Brady, you know, in the middle of, or I guess the late 2000s, early 2010s, you got to start hitting on some, the new group of guys, right? They got High Tower. They got McCordy, right? They got all these other players to come in. Obviously, Edelman became a consistent slot. They hit on Gronk in the second round. The Chiefs are going to have to do that over the next couple years. And they kind of already have. You know, Rishie Rice, a high-end player. Yeah. Xavier worthy, they're going to need more out of him. Yeah. They got McDuffey and Carl Office on defense. You need to hit on a couple more

guys. But listen, I think they've proven they know what they're doing. This is just not the- Belichick and Brady had some years where they lost in the first round. Remember the Rex Ryan beat him, the Ravens beat them? Peyton got him a couple times. Like, you're not going to go to the Super Bowl. Five and six years, I'd be stunned if that ever happens again. And not with a parody, the way the league's built. But the Broncos, they're going to be in a position. Now they're in the driver's seat to get the number one seat, right? Because the Colts, I mean, are they just going to keep rattling off wins? I think the Broncos, you look at their schedule, it's pretty easy. I do believe if they could get home field advantage, it's going to be a very, very tough place

to win, you know, for opposing teams to come in with that defense. And they just need Bo Knicks to play like today. No turnovers. We don't need three, four touchdowns a game. You go back to some of the defenses that, you know, people like in the 80s and the 90s in the early 2000s, we don't need three touchdowns. Like, just do not turn the ball over, maybe throw one, we'll rush for one, and we will win this thing 17 to 13, no problem. Don't forget, Denver at home in January, it will be snowing. So that defense will be even nastier because it's going to be windy at high altitude

in snowing. All right, Seattle loses to the Rams. Rams 21, Seahawks, 19. pretty remarkable that with four Sam Darnold interceptions, Seattle, which, again, I think their rosters, I think defensively, they got so many dudes. First of all, these two defenses, there's just nothing, I felt bad for Sam Darnold. There's just, if a ball gets tipped in the air, it's picked. There's just very little. I mean, thank God for JSN. It's just hard to have plays. It's hard to have successive plays against the Rams defense that hit. You can hit one,

and then it's backwards. But I was thinking about this, because the Rams jump out to a very quickly, that's very impressive, and then they have to hold on. But I was, you know, they, here's the thing that jumped out to me. The Rams defense in the red zone,

number one, if you didn't watch the game, the Rams defense in the red zone kept forcing Seattle into field goals. So that was the early portion of the game. The second portion was they kept intercepting Sam Darnold. But this struck me during the game. If Stafford would have thrown four picks, Seattle would have blown the Rams out, would have blown their doors off. How can Seattle stay with them? And my takeaway is this.

Matt Stafford, John, is play call reliant. He is as good as the play call, right? Sam's not. If the play breaks down, Sam can create a second play, sometimes a third with his legs. The weakness with the Rams, because there is no weakness defensively, their corners are aren't great, but Forbes now, Emmanuel Forbes in, is playing really well. He's a nice corner. Probably a number two corner, but he's a good corner. Their safeties are good. Their pass rush. Stafford's not giving you anything off the play call. Now, he can get in and out of stuff pre-snap,

but if the play breaks down, or it's just stuffed, the play's over. I feel like with Darnold, I mean, when Matt Stafford is reckless and has a bad day, Rams get hammered. But Seattle doesn't, because, you know, they dominate time of possession. Got in the second and third quarter. Seattle had the ball for 20 minutes. The Rams had it for three. I mean, again, there is such a value to having an athletic quarterback that can just create a second play play if the first play play play.

And that's my thing. I love Stafford, but with him and golf, you do not get a second play within a play call. The play call is what the play call is. and I thought it was remarkable that Seattle was kicking a game-winning field goal. I thought it was unbelievable. Yeah, if they would have, if Seattle wins this game,

I don't think Sean McVeigh could have slept all week. You can't pick a guy off four times and lose that game. I mean, at one point in time, it felt like the Rams were in complete control, and I looked down and Matt Stafford had thrown for like 60 yards. I'm like, this feels weird. He ended up only throwing for 130 yards.

Sam Donald threw for a hundred and complete. almost 300 yards. I mean, through for 280 yards. Mac Jones is thrown for 650 yards combined against the ramps, which is ironic because you can throw on them, but their defensive coordinator, I think we have to have some ownage over Sam Darnold. Because some of those picks aren't tip balls. They're hitting guys in the numbers. So he rattled them in the playoff game when they had to play it in Glendale because of the

fires. And then he rattled them again today really bad. It was the first time, like, he still making some explosive plays, the one play that JSN Kyle with one hand. And obviously the running backs make some big plays. But like if you're going to, I mean, he did not have a touchdown today and he threw four interceptions. And I mean, three off top of my head are hitting guys in stride.

The one where he did like the T-bo jump up and he just hit the guy. It's like that can't. That looked a little Jets, Carolina Panthers. And I think Chris Shula, who is Sean McVeigh's handpick guy, their buddies from college, has just, it's like a matchup thing. You see this in basketball. You see sometimes in baseball with a pitcher versus hitter. Chris Shula against Sam Darnold, because it's not even a Kubiak thing,

because they had a different offensive coordinator last year in the playoffs. It was Ryan Grub. It's something he's doing to Sam is throwing him off with some of these looks. Because they do not have Jalen Ramsey and some of these guys back there in the defensive backfield. These are not like their strength is the pass rush, not the corners. Even though the guy they just traded for did make a great play. It would have been, Sam Donald maybe underthrew him by what he did. Eight inches.

And the guy made a great play with his fingers. your tips. They probably saved the game because he completes that. That might have been the game. Sam's Owen three against the Rams the last two years, 21 and four against everybody else. So there is no question the Rams have his number. And what I wrote down today twice, that Sam saw the receiver late. His throw was late. And Sam's never had the cleanest mechanics. He's got a little bit of a, a little bit of a hitch. It's fast. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. it's faster than it was four years ago. But Sam has to see stuff clearly and quickly because he doesn't snap the ball out.

Like an Aaron or even Jordan Love just whips that thing out. That touchdown to Christian Watson, he got a bad snap. He saw it, let it go. It was in the air a quarter second later. That's not Sam. And two of the interceptions, Sam saw the play way late. Like it wasn't even close. You know, you'd have thought he'd be throwing to a ram, not a Seahawk.

So I think that's the reality is that this right now, I think Seattle has better speed. I think Seattle's roster is actually more complete. Like the Rams have a little bit of a secondary concern. They didn't draft a corner last year. You and I've discussed this probably needed to. They went and got Emmanuel Forbes a longer corner. I thought he's been pretty good for them. But, and we talked about this, John, I think the last two weeks.

The Rams are the cleanest team in the league. They're not the most dynamic. They don't have penalties. They don't turn the ball over. They don't throw interceptions. They're just clean. And in the end, that wins a lot of these games. Well, like you said about Donald, I think I did the math.

So if you count today, he's 21 and 6 starting last year. So, I mean, he's been a great player. But three of those losses are to the Rams. And if you count the playoff game, and today he is five intercept. And he was not good in the playoff game either. Because I'm with you, I feel like they're throwing them off, which then speeds them up, which gets them all out of rhythm. Because now, the three games in which he's had, of those 21 wins, he has been an MVP caliber player.

Yet if you take the Lions game and these last two Rams game, he looks like a rattled player. So it's like clearly, and some of those wins are against really good teams. So it's not like he's just beating up on, you know, Kentucky's of the world, right? He's doing it against real competition. So whatever Shula has put out there now in Aaron Glenn, I do wonder if more people are going to attempt to just copycat that. Yes. But it's just, it's weird because I was all in the way he was playing that I watched a day. I'm like, clearly you can do something to throw him off.

And, you know, it's one thing if you just, you know, you have bad footwork and you overthrow a guy, it's another thing to hit multiple dbs in there. numbers. That to me is a really, really alarming sign. And I thought he had gotten past it the way he was playing this year. I'm like, whatever that confidence is. And then you see a moment like today and you're like, God, I'm picking Seattle to make the Super Bowl. And that kind's going to give me some pause because there's going to be a lot of pressure on this guy in the playoffs again, right? And down the stretch. He's still got some big games left. Yeah, I've said this about Caleb Williams and Bownecks. They don't get hurt. They don't throw picks. There is some value in that.

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I did think Chicago, first of all, Chicago was better on third down, much better. They dominated time of a session. Caleb had no picks. I thought Chicago was the better. Great with his legs, too. Oh, yeah. I thought Chicago was the better team. This is not one of these in which they were lucky.

I thought Chicago was the better team. Now, J.J. McCarthy had a couple of drops by Jordan Addison, one early, one late. So it's not all on J.J. McCarthy. So let's just look at the Bears, though. So last year, they couldn't win games like this. And this is sort of the magic of Ben Johnson and Caleb. It's not pretty. They have a win against the Raiders due to a blocked field goal.

They beat Washington when Jaden Daniels fumbled late in the game. Remember, nobody touched him. He just fumbled. They had a 58-yard TD against the Bengals after a near collapse. They trailed double digits in the fourth quarter of the Giants and won. And a game-winning field goal as time expires today against the Vikings. Now, you could say it's just luck. You know, I think Caleb Williams led.

Legs aren't luck. He, again, today, he made two or three. I mean, listen, it's a cliche. Nobody doubts how dynamic he is. He's a freaking, he's a cleanup hitter. I mean, just the legs, the power. He made a couple throws today. I mean, he's just, when he unleashes it, man, it is.

I was the one to DJ Moore that DJ dropped. I think it got on DJ so fast that, you know, I think he was trying to catch it, but it hit his chest plate before his hands could even get there. That had to be like 110 mile an hour. fastball. That had to be the hardest ball today thrown, I think, in the NFL. But I think we have to be honest about this. J.J. McCarthy had one really good drive at the end, and he deserves credit for it. But John, this is not a highlight league. This is not the NBA. It is about sustained drives. It is about putting your team in situations to win. I got to tell you,

I don't know what it is, but when you have Kevin O'Connell, good protection, decent run game, Justin Jefferson. Jordan Addison didn't. He had drops. I don't see it with J.J. McCarthy. And I don't want to do confirmation bias. He hasn't had many starts. His arm is good enough. It's not an arm thing. He has a decent arm. But he looks nervous. He's a player that plays, I think, with confidence. And when he loses it after a second pick, he had a couple of really bad drives. So he's obviously somebody who's a bit in his head on this stuff. Don't blame him. It happens. He's young. But it's hard for me. me to unsee it. Like when, when Caleb was struggling last year, he wasn't throwing picks, he was making plays with his feet. You could not deny his athleticism. Even Greg Kosell kept saying, you know, the tape will tell you he makes incredible throws. This J.J. McCarthy thing, about four more of these, and they got a problem on their hands. Yeah, I mean, I think they have, JJ beside the one drive at the end was atrocious. I mean, he's a complete train wreck. I mean, balls are flying all over the map. All over the place. I mean, just not even, not even close.

And I think Tom was in a tough position being a Michigan man trying to not totally crush the kid, but even Tom's like, I got no clue. There was a stretch where they did some replays and something. I don't even know where he's throwing. I do want to say this, though, that if you just take the two coaches, you know, if we just did a draft from scratch, they would be two of the highest guys in the league, right? Ben Johnson and Kevin O'Connell. I actually think they're the polar opposite, though, being offensive guys and both former quarterback. Now, O'Connell got drafted. Ben Johnson, I think, was a lot.

backup in North Carolina. Ben's basically Kyle Shanahan 2.0. He will run it till the cows come home. And he makes it. It's a lot easier on Caleb to be in situations where I'm not putting it all on your shoulder. Because I think Caleb, when he plays like that, can get a little reckless and start running around. Because he naturally plays like that anyway, which he's incredible of breaking out of sacks. I mean, his ability, he's like unsackable. You have to get multiple guys on him because he's breaking through. But Ben Johnson today, The majority of this game was just a one score game. This wasn't like one team's up 24 to 3.

Kevin O'Connell just insists, and I said this last year was Sam Darnold. When everyone just took a giant kind of dump on Sam Donald's career, it's like he didn't get any help in that playoff game for his coach. Have some run. Settle the game down. Ben Johnson wants to run it basically just three times, get a first down and run it again. Kevin O'Connell's calling these deep breaking routes. It's like, bro, this is not.

Sam Darnold during the regular season. It's definitely not Kirk Cousins. This guy has no clue where the ball is coming out of his hands. He threw a pick in the corner of the end zone on a go route. I don't know why you're calling go routes for this guy. He's overthrowing guys. If you're going to throw some quick stuff, okay, some quick outs, somewhat easy, even though he was missing those two. But there was one point in time during the first half, they were averaging almost five yards of carry, and the bears had like doubled the amount of carries. If it was flip-flopped, Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones, they would have easily both got double the amount of touches they got. But he insists, and I get it, he's got these two awesome wide receivers, but that's how he wants to coach. He wants to

throw the ball vertically down the field, and that is not what this guy is capable of doing right now. Yeah. Right? You know, listen, Caleb Williams is much better player than JJ, and he would be, quote, unquote, more capable to do that. But Ben Johnson, and they got wide receivers too, but he's not going to play like that. And you got a coach, and I saw on social media, it's like, well, you got to let them sink or swim. The goal of today was trying to win the game. Yeah. And this was a winnable game for both teams. And Ben Johnson to me thoroughly out coached Kevin O'Connell, because yes, JJ stinks. But his coach, like in the middle of the game in a one score game can help his guy

out. He's insisting on pushing the ball down the field and is blowing up in his face. Yeah. And I think... I'm not stunned, but it's like, it's a consistent theme now with O'Connell throwing the ball, you know, with this guy. Think about this. In the fourth quarter at the end of the game, John, when they trailed, the Bears got that huge kickoff return. So J.J. McCarthy leads him to a touchdown. You're like, oh, my God, Minnesota's going to get out of this thing.

It looked like crap all day. They're going to win this game. Crazy. The Bears get a huge kickoff return. And did you, of course, notice what did Ben do? Three straight run plays. He's like, hey, I'm not going to put Caleb. Caleb had a couple bad sacks earlier in the game to your play.

to your point, Ben's like, we're going to run the football, pick up about seven to eight yards. Santos is going to come in and get the game winning field goal. They could have thrown it. They could have put, they didn't. Ben Johnson's, to your point, Ben's like, we're going to run it, we're going to keep it, we're not going to put any pressure on it. We've outplayed these guys. We just got the kickoff return.

So Ben, and it's not dismissing Caleb. It's like, I'm not going to put my young quarterback on the road against Brian Flores, I'm not putting him in this spot, and they just ran it. The kick was good. But that was a situation where I kept thinking, oh, that's kind of conservative. But then I'm like, no, Santos is good. That's not going to be the issue. I'm looking online. I'm like, no, he'll be fine. He would left earlier this year. I think Jake Moody came in for a brief time. Santos is now bad. But he got injured. But I think to your point, Ben Johnson, I mean, what's the first thing he did when he got the job? Joe Tuny, Drew Dalman, Jonah Jackson. It wasn't tax.

it was interior line, settled the line, stay off Caleb's feet, and run the ball with Swift. I'm blown away by Ben Johnson. Just because you never know, no matter how great a coordinator is when he becomes a head coach, we see so many guys fail. He's been fantastic. I mean, I'm not trying to overreact, but philosophically the way that I personally view football, I'd rather have Ben Johnson than Kevin O'Connell. Because that translates what he's doing with this organization that has been losing

for a long time, like ugly toxicity. Let's face it, most people that coached the Vikings have some success. They are a well-run operation with historically a ton of good players. That's not the case with the Bears. Now, we'll see the Bears still got to play the Steelers. They still got to play the Packers. They've got the Lions again. The 49er game's going to be huge for them.

There's no guarantee that they're going to make the playoffs. But Ben Johnson's seven and three. I know Vrable and rightfully so is anointed. I would put them hand in hand. right there as coach of the year. It's been, today was awesome to go on the road and to just calm everyone down by just keep calling run plays. It's amazing what that does. I mean, I go back to the first scoring drive for the Bears. It was either a 15 or a 16 play drive. Now, think about that. You have DJ Moore, excellent tight ends, Caleb Williams. If you have playmakers.

And Ben Johnson's, we're going to take the crowd out of the game, six yards, four yards, eight yards. Nothing quietes a crowd like a 15 play drive on the road. And so Ben Johnson, again, long, sustained, smart. I think Sean Payton and Ben Johnson, maybe my two favorite play callers in the NFL. They just, they just, it's death by a thousand cuts. It's just smart. Six, four, I thought Sean Payton's last drive with Bo, I thought that 16 play drive, Chicago on the road. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, well, there's no question offensive coach. help young quarterbacks over defensive coaches, but even among offensive coaches, there's a strata. There's a hierarchy. Really quick. I mean, big picture with the Vikings.

We've seen this a couple times recently, and Brock Purdy bailed John and Kyle out, and it sure looks like Daniel Jones bailed Chris and Shane Stiking out. Who's bailing this Viking situation out? Because this is, this guy is, and even a diehard, the most, you know, bullish guy on JJ would have to admit, like, yeah, he had one good drive, but for the majority of these games, he is atrocious. I have nine turnovers in five games. That's the number I put down. Like, that's, you can't have two turnovers a game. I mean, again, Darnold can have a stinker, but with Darnold, you get big arm, the huge athletic ability. You have multiple, you can, as a teammate,

Sam Darnold's going to get you the ball. Like, he, J. ESN was the first receiver to a thousand. Justin Jefferson is not. Look at his body language. He is not a happy camper. I don't blame him. I mean, he's running out routes wide open and the ball's sailing, hitting the trainer on the bench.

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I'll try to keep it simple. I mean, Josh Allen, three passing touchdowns, three running touchdowns, despite the interceptions. Josh Allen, to me, is the best football player in the world. I think he's the best football player. Eat me one of the five best football players I've ever seen. It's just insane. I still don't love the receiving core, but it's just amazing how he can just kind of make everything work. James Cook is obviously a tremendous player.

He had a touchdown out of the backfield today. I thought Baker played pretty well. Baker ran a lot today because I think Baker had to. I don't know. Sean Tucker, I mean, God, where do they find these running backs in Tampa? I didn't even know who that was. I had to Google him. He's from Syracuse.

I was like, who is this guy? He looked like an outside linebacker. He was just a yo-fantic dude. But I guess my takeaway on this, the bill's eight yards per, kind of my takeaway on this is, and I've had two executives tell me this, Buffalo doesn't have the roster people think. They have Josh Allen.

They have two or three really good players. But, I mean, you look at Denver's roster. You look at Phillies roster. You look at the Rams roster. Seattle. You got dudes. You look at Buffalo's roster and it was one of my favorite picks today because I thought, and I felt kind of lucky

that Buffalo pulled away late. But let me just ask you, do you think the bills have it, I don't think it's as good as the Ravens, do you think the bills have a top 10 roster? No, I, today, I mean, they have one guy who was a transcended all-time player. My wife had her baby shower back in the Bay Area. So for the last 48 hours, I spent a lot of time on the couch watching sports.

And on Friday night, I watched Steph Curry for like the second time and three nights score. But he scored 100 points in two games. And it's not, he is the Golden State Warriors franchise. He is the franchise. Kind of like what Michael Jordan was to the franchise. Josh Allen is the Bill's franchise. This team was a joke for 20 years. You watch him the day.

Like, is Patrick Mahomes has elevated the franchise, but I was watching. they were winning 10, 11, 12 games every year with Alex Smith. Right. Andy Reid's average, probably, I think, like 11 wins for 20 years before he met Patrick Mahomes. If Patrick Mahomes disappeared tomorrow, they would not be as good. But Andy Reid would be fine. They'd find another quarterback and they keep winning. If Josh Allen disappeared tomorrow, the bills would become the Jets or the Dolphins like that.

Yep. I don't care how rich their ownership is because that's what they were before. Just like when Steph Curry retires, the Warriors are the Kings with a more rich owner. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, he's that more game night revenue. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with that, exactly, with higher ticket prices.

Right. So you watch Josh Allen today, it's like he's an unstoppable force. Like, listen, Lamar is a fantastic player. I've watched the Ravens most of my life be really good. Right now, he elevates them. Yeah. But if Lamar turned, disappeared tomorrow, I think the Ravens a couple years would figure it out and they'd be good again. They're a well run operation.

Well, they beat the Bears with Tyler Huntley. Yeah. And they looked great. They played a clean official. football game and beat Chicago soundly. And I'm not trying to diminish any of these people. I'm just trying to say, I think people are quick to forget what a joke the bills were. I mean, part of what everyone made fun of Belichick and Brady is like, well, they get the

jets, the bills, and the dolphins six times a year. Because those franchises were so bad. And he comes, and you're watching the day, it's, you know, Lamar early on was so athletic. People couldn't touch him. It feels like he's a little slower now. Maybe it's just a little age, a little wear and tear. Josh's physicality is like you're getting the best of the Herbert's, the Burroughs, and the Mahomes throwing. But then you get this Cam Newton like runner.

It's like what are you supposed to do here? You can't fit. So do you watch them the day, you go, it is, because I thought for a split second, I'm like, they lose this game. They're in major trouble. This thing could unravel and unravel fast. Tampa was scoring so quickly. I also think, you know, Keon Coleman, Schefter reporter today. he was inactive and he was there, you know, high pick couple.

He missed a meeting on Friday. Well, I think if you tell me the bills are eight and one coming into this, is he inactive or does like Sean McDermott just sit him down and gets a talk and no one really hears about it? But when you've been losing, you kind of got to show the team like, we're not tolerating this. That's a, we've been losing and I got to set the tone here with the rest of my organization. So when I saw that, I was like, this is kind of on tilt a little bit for the bills, especially with the way the Patriots look and how easy their schedule. Today was huge.

If they lose this game, I still think they'd make the playoffs because they got some winnable games. No, I said Friday. It does feel like the McDermott era would be hanging by a string. I said Friday on the show. I said one of my favorite picks is Buffalo. If they lose, that's my lead Monday. Like, uh-oh. Like there's tipping points on all this stuff, right?

It could be Mark Jackson getting replaced by Steve Kerr. It could be, you know, Andy Reid losing a job. They're tipping point games. And this was one of them. You don't lose at home. Again, I just, when I watched Buffalo play today, Tampa scored too easily. The fact that Sean Tucker come in and just run over players. I think he had three touchdowns today.

He had a couple passing, or two rushing and one passing. There's a reason people don't draft running backs high generally because there's so many players you can find in the fourth or fifth round. But I just watched Buffalo today. And it's not really the bills. It's just Josh Allen. He's the best football player. Yeah. I mean, I always thought Elway, because Elway got drafted, I think, by the Yankees.

Elway could have been a baseball pitcher. He could have been a football player. I always thought, like, Elway was like, that's just about as good as you're going to get. Josh Allen's bigger, stronger, faster, everything plus. He's like Big Ben, but just better in everything than Big Ben. Yeah, but now I agree. When you want to enjoy life's simpler pleasures, reach for Green River Whiskey, whether it's dry whiskey or single barrel bourbon.

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Okay, Baltimore 22, Cleveland 16. I took Cleveland plus eight and a half. I thought the line was screwy. Baltimore, Cleveland at home, and I will say this, John, I firmly believe this, that if Cleveland had a big-time top-10 quarterback, they would be a Super Bowl team, a Super Bowl bubble team. I think their defense is, Miles Garrett's unblockable. What did he have?

Four sacks again? Literally, he's going to have 28 sacks. He's unblockable. Devin Bush, pick six. they look a little like Seattle defensively. It's like they're playing with 12 to 13 guys. And at home, the weather's cold. I think they've got, I mean, they led 16, was it 3, 1610?

They were controlling. 1610 for me. Yeah, and they were pushing Baltimore around. And it was Baltimore's third straight road game. So that's one of the reasons I like Cleveland. Then Dylan Gabriel, who really is stabilized the offense. They're not great, but he's stabilized it. He leaves, Shadur comes in.

And Shadur looks a little over his skis. He's the first driver or two. He's a little lost. And then he puts him in a position where he's driving to win. He makes a couple of nice throws, a couple of nice plays. He, you know, he was fine. It was kind of fun to watch. But my takeaway is Baltimore, third straight. Now they go home, I think, for three straight home games. So this was bound to be an ugly game. What did you make? Let's just talk Shadur. What did you make of what you saw? Well, the thing is the Brown's offensive line is horrendous. I mean, it's really, really bad. Now, luckily, Shador is used to that because he played the last couple years of Colorado where he was running for his life. You know, I have a hard time judging a rookie coming in the middle of a game against the Ravens.

Made a couple nice passes. Also had a pick. Had it took a couple sacks. I mean, they're bringing guys. It's hard for me to even like, it wasn't great if you just do the totality of it. But how many guys would have excelled in that situation? The Ravens also, I mean, they have to win this game with the Steelers winning. You know, they're margin for error because they start one in.

for this was like this is must win territory for them. So my expectations win, I get the text, like, because I'm kind of paying attention. Because again, I just assume they're going to win, but once Dylan Gabriel gets knocked out, so okay, I'll see how we, my expectations were pretty low. Same. We're really low. It was going to need a Miles Garrett like six sacks, one of them be a forced fumble and pick it up and return for a touchdown.

Because at the end of the day, the Ravens DBs, I mean, they were just going to, it was going to be a tough spot for Shador. So I'm not going to crush the kid. in that situation. Yeah. At night, you're cold. Yeah. You know, it's just now I do think I saw enough, like, just keep them in.

You know, let's just see what it looks like next week. Give him a chance. What do you got to lose? More games? Yeah, I thought his final drive, spin move, then a throw in the next play to the end zone. I'm like, those are two big time plays. He can play. Yeah.

All right. Green Bay beats the New York Giants 27 and 20. So it's really interesting. So first of all, I think they missed three PATs. It was windy as hell. It was a hard day to play. Look cold. But Green Bay, again, like the Rams, clean.

No turnovers. When I watched them play, because Jacobs went to the tent and got hurt, my takeaway in Green Bay is, their best players are perimeter players. Like Watson, that Jordan loved a Watson today was an unbelievable play. It's windy. You're on the road. The snap's not perfect. Jordan love bubbles. It grabs it, throws up.

freaking perfect ball down the right sideline in the corner. And I'm like, okay, this kid, they are so reluctant to let Jordan Love pass 35 times. And the more I watch them, he was 13 to 24, two TDs, no picks. He doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He'll let uncork. He has some Sam Darnold. He's got some Andrew Luck. He'll uncork. He's more far than Rogers. He'll uncork shit. And you'll go, God, Jordan. And it was a weird day because the Giants actually had more rushing yards, passing yards, and total yards, at least late into the game. They were better on third down. They won time of possession.

They had fewer punts, right? But Dween Bay is like three and out or exciting. They're an incredibly uneven offense. And I think a lot of it is because they don't have an identity. I think they should just put it in Jordan Love's hands and say, we're going to throw the ball and see what happens. Well, I was talking to Goldie before you hopped on and he was like, you know, the moment Josh Jacobs got hurt, we all took a sigh of relief because we knew that we had to open up the offense a little bit. And I think it's kind of a crutch for LaFleur. Jacobs is awesome.

I mean, he's a fantastic player. But I think LaFleur, who is much more Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan, would run it 45 times a game. Yes. And has no problem if he's going to win it 20 to 13. He's not looking for style points. You know, and I think he really relies on the past that Jordan loved through to Christian Watson in the corner of the end zone. That looks like Rogers to Devante Adams seven years ago. So one guy that kind of popped today was Christian Watson.

And I think it's always driven the floor little nuts because he's drops and, you know, he's a speed wide receiver. It's like, that's 2025. Like I would use that guy because he's flying around, you know, the rookie wide receiver from Texas keep in and out of the lineup. Golden. You know, they got to mix and match a little bit with some of these wide receivers that are rolling out. Dobbs had a couple bad drops early in the game. He had two bad drops. You know, we talked about the Bills.

I thought today when there was a moment, you're like, is James Winston going to beat the Green Bay Packers? Felt like the Bills game against the Bucks. Like, this is a turning point for their season. And this would be, it got really loud the last couple weeks, right? It's losing to the Eagles is not the end of the world for LaFleur, but losing to the Panthers and the Browns is. losing to James Winston, even in a freezing cold, windy game. And I'm a Mike Kafka guy, but you can't be losing to Mike Kafka and James Winston. When you're the coach of the Green Bay Packers and you've already lost some games, it was must win.

I mean, for a split second, you're like, I think James might take him down. I mean, they were in trouble. And then Parsons made some plays or defense made some plays. Yeah, and then James had a really bad end zone pick. Like he'd just missed by five yards. No, I think, listen, the receivers, there's a, been talked some. I think Daibol might still be around if James had been their backup quarterback the whole time instead of Russell Wilson. He just gives them a little more oomph, doesn't he? Yeah, it's interesting.

Because Daibble loves football. I saw an article this weekend in one of the New York papers, and they're like, he's just a football junkie. Dayball's not going anywhere. He'll coat. He'll take an assistant job somewhere. He just wants to coach. He wants the Penn State job. Diana was saying. Wow, that's interesting. I like Daible. He's rough. He's, he's rough. He's. He's, He's not for everybody, but I think he's a football junkie, and I think he's smart. He reminds me a little of an offensive, Brian, Robert Sala, where he's wound tight. He's really intense. Sometimes about twice a season, he's going to lose it.

And you're going to be like, bro, you can't do that. You're a head coach. I tend to defend those guys because I do think Sala is a remarkable coach. And I think Brian's really good. But kind of Bill O'Brien, he's like a chubby bald version of Bill O'Brien when he was younger. But Matt, Matt LaFlemore. You know, I always heard this about Matt LaFloire. when he was in Washington and he came out.

Then he went to Tennessee and then he went to the Rambi, the Packers. People said, of the Shanahan McVeigh-Lefluor trio, McVeigh was the best culture guy, Shanahan was the best scheme guy. Matt was a little of both. He doesn't quite have the presence of McVeigh. He's not quite the scheme guy.

Shanahan is. I think he's a pretty good CEO, but I don't think he's quite a, as clever as Ben Johnson. He's not quite as clever as a play designer and a play caller. I think he's just a very good coach who's good at a lot of things. I don't understand the lack of trust for Jordan Love because that's what it feels like me watching. That's what I might, as a consumer of the Packers, I'm like, and I understand when Kraft gets hurt, it's not quite the same offense. But it feels a little predictable to me. That's what I'm watching. I mean,

they had a couple three and outs. It's like you got too many good players. to have three and outs. Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean, I think you go back to when Rogers resurrect his career, I think his gut is to run the ball. I think he's a conservative coach. You are who you are. Once you get to his level, like your ethos as a play caller, he is not a spread and

chuck it around the yard type guy. That's just not who he is. And I think it's very, very difficult for him. I think if you put Kevin O'Connell on the Packers, they would be much. much better off. And Jordan Love would be much better off because that's what he wants to do. And I think if you put Matt LaFleur with J.J. McCarthy in that group, they would look better. So it's just, to me, it's just a style. And his style, remember him and Aaron butted heads because he wanted him under center, he wanted him running the ball. He does not want shotgun four or five wide.

That's not what he wants to do. Jordan Love definitely feel, and listen, he's not as good as Aaron Rogers. Of course he's not. You're going to have to deal with some picks, but like let him slinging around. I give credit to the last two guys have dealt with Sam Donald. Like, just let him fling it. He's going to have some days like today, but over the aggregate, it's going to be pretty good. I watched that that throw that he made, and you could argue that Jordan's a little bit of a tease. You know, he's not as good as some of these guys, which I heard you saying this the other day on TV. Like, he's just good. He's not great or whatever, but he's not bad.

He's good. You can win a lot of games with the cousins, the Jack Prescott. That's Jordan loves world. Let him slinging around. If he came out today, he's 6'4, big arm moves. Nice kid. I mean, he always, any time you put a mic in front of him, he's always, was a team guy, he and Mendoza would be the top two picks. I mean, his traits are outstanding.

He's a big athlete. Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson couldn't dream of having the skills he has. Yeah, I don't get Ty Simpson. That ship has sailed for me after Saturday. But, okay, I want to talk about this game. San Francisco 41, Arizona 22, Brock Pretty played very well, got started with a Skymoor kickoff return. They were off to the races. I got to, I'm like, I'll say this. I think Shanahan and Robert Sala. First of all, Arizona was a mess. They had 11 panelists in the first half. Harrison didn't play.

But I'm going to give San Francisco credit. John, I'm not sure if any other staff in the NFL could overcome. I texted Saul the other day. I was like, bro, you're coaching your ass off. You have no players left. And Winter, I think, is a very good young player. But, I mean, my interpretation watching that game, today was. I mean, obviously, you can move a pocket much more with Brock Purdy than Mac Jones.

They, you know, they're moving the pocket all over the place. And that's what Brock does very well. But they should not be beating people 41 to 22 on the road. I do think, one, the Cardinals have less like star power, but they are as injured as the 49ers. And now, and the 49ers getting Purdy, but Pierceall back, their office feels a lot different when you put Ricky Pearsall with Jennings, Kittle, and McCaffrey. I did think it was a delicate situation. I get it. You paid him $180 million guaranteed, but how well Mac Jones has been playing.

And Kyle was steadfast and like, this is our guy when he's ready, we're going to go. And I said, it's kind of weird. He's ready. What's been up with his foot? He's just going to be 100%. He looked completely normal. And Kyle, the way he handled it with Mac Jones, and he gave Mack a lot of credit too, is like, Kyle's pretty good at quarterback.

Yes. They're winning a lot of games with Mac. How many coaches besides like an Andy Reed? Could you just be like, yeah, you're just going to win 10, 11 games? I don't care what your schedule is with a banged up hurdy and Mack Jones. I'd say most teams in the NFL are winning six, seven games, especially with Fred Warner with a cast on his foot. Nick Bosen, Florida rehab and an ACL.

So listen, the Cardinals aren't bad, but the 49ers beat the living. You know what out of them today. Arizona had almost 500 yards of all. offense and averaged seven yards of play and got the, you know what kicked out of them. Arizona has talent. Arizona is, they're just big time. Oh, they're just up. They are Indianapolis where you're like, they've got dudes. They just don't have the quarterback right. So, you know, I think there is, you know, we all, when I watched the coaching today, especially in the late window, I had Andy Reed and Sean Payton. Today I've got Kyle Shanahan.

I don't know if John Gannon's a great coach, but Shanahan is. I've got McVeigh and Mike McDonald. I got John Harbonne-Stefansky. I like Stefansky. I think John, the coaching in the NFL today, I don't think there's ever been this many good young coaches. I think it's all, and I think that Jesse Minter with the Chargers will eventually get something. There'll be a college guy or two that will pop out. Ryan Day, obviously, he's done.

this is the best Ohio State. Like Ohio State for the first time of my life, it feels like Bama. They've separated from people, like by a touchdown or so. I think they'll beat Indiana significantly. I don't know. When I watch Shanahan and Sala, I'm just impressed.

I mean, they've got eight different guys defensively traded or not playing on defense. Well, I think when you look at a lot of the, in the 49ers, it's been one of the best teams over the last, what, five, six years. you go to the bills. You know, who's the poster child? Mahomes. Who's the poster child for the Ravens? Lamar, right?

You just go around the top teams. There's a couple, though, like the Lions. You kind of think Dan Campbell first. Yeah. You definitely with the 49ers. I mean, their franchise is Kyle Shanan. You know, I mean, his importance. And getting Robert Salo to come back, you know, I get asked a lot,

do you think he'll get a head coaching job this year? I just don't think the candidates, like he's definitely going to get some interviews probably. I mean, I think Jonathan Gannon is in major trouble. Yeah. Now, I'd also argue that if this was college, I would view Arizona as one of those jobs, like, I wouldn't touch that job. Like, that's just a bad, that's a place where tough to win,

especially when you factor in, you're going to beat Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, and Mike McDonald. Good luck to you. And with an owner this cheap, Godspeed, guys. Because that's, I don't think Jonathan Gannan's terrible, but their teams really falling apart now. They're not, they're going to, their record's going to be awful. So, yeah, I mean, listen, Kyle, this year, we liked him because of their schedule, but once you had all the injuries, it could have fallen up the rails fast.

Oh. And deserved a lot of, I think the Mac Jones, that's signing and resurrecting his career. Because he, listen, I think his value, it's like, well, would you trade him to the Minnesota Vikings? Yes. No, I need them. But my problem is, what a party gets hurt again? Right. His value to the 49ers, I would for the right price, but I'm not given to you for a third round pick.

Would you give me two seconds? or something? Do you want to win or do you want to lose? Because you're going to lose with J.J. McCarthy, right? No, I think Minnesota's the play. And I said it, I said it last week on the air. I said, I'd get a third round pick. You're probably right. He's worth a second and a fourth or a second and a third. I think it's probably what Mack Jones is worth. And it's always hard to decipher. Is Mack Jones good or is it maybe just the coach? But I do think when you watched Mack make throws to a depleted receiving core, it was pretty impressive. I, I, I think one thing, too, that, you know, last year he was injured, but changed the 49ers forever

was that it was between the Rams and the Niners to get Christian McCaffrey. And it was the Niners gave a second and a third and they had to give that extra fourth to make sure they got him. And it changed the franchise. And I would say also doubling down, you know, Kittle was getting a little older. He's a pretty dominant player. So when you watch those two guys, they are as good of a tandem as a running back and tight end as you're going to see.

I mean, they are ass kickers. I mean, they are ass kickers. kickers. I think Kettle had two touchdowns today. Oh, and he's just, he's just so physical and he's so good in the run. And McCaffrey, even on some of his runs that aren't as sexy, he's just so physical and he's so consistent. Those guys are just, they're Hall of Fame players. I mean, that's, that's really what, they're just Hall of Fame players, they're winning players, and their guys, you know, when kind of, you know, what's hitting the fan and your backs are against the wall, they're guys you can lean on. And that's, the Chiefs have had those type guys. You just need those type guys to be in the

trenches with. Yeah, that was one of my, that was my second favorite blazing five pick. I took San Francisco minus two and a half. I said when Shanahan gets blown out, take the Niners the next week. You know what might come down to? Now, the Bears sketch was a little harder than the Niners, but the Bears play the nine. That seven seed could come down between those two teams. That's a big game. Well, I have, I have Philadelphia beating Detroit tonight. So, you know, Chicago keeps winning ugly. Don't be shocked if Chicago has a shot to win the division, which sounds ridiculous. It's crazy. I know. Football seasons here, and if you want to go to an NFL or college football game,

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So the NIL and the transfer portal, the fear is the rich you're only going to get richer. Well, actually, the opposite has happened, is that take out Ohio State mostly because of their defense. But after this weekend, Bama, Oklahoma, Old Miss, Oregon, Indiana, Georgia, Texas, A&M. John, it was a couple years ago when Bama and Georgia looked different than everybody else. I'm looking at all these teams outside of Ohio State, mostly because of this unbelievable defense. I watched Michigan Northwestern, came down to a final kick. I watched Iowa, USC, came down to a couple of calls. There is so much parody now in college football.

I like Georgia a lot, and they certainly have Texas's number, but Bama has Georgia's number. Old Miss, I mean, if it was such a great job, Lane Kiffin would have already signed that extension. Him not signing it is probably a sign that he knows there's limitations at Old Miss. Everybody was afraid the portal and the NIL were going to just bury the Iowa's and bury the, you know, you're... Now we've got Indiana and A&M and Ole Miss have emerged. I don't know. I think Ohio State's the best team, but... I watched Bama lose. I was shocked. I'm like, Christ, there's 12 teams here. I'm not sure who's the second best team in the country. Maybe Georgia?

Well, I think for most of the last 20 years pre-NIL, there were two or three teams that were so much better. You go back to Pete and then Urban and then Nick and then for a little bit Kirby and Davo in there for a minute. And they really only had to out-coach an opponent maybe once or twice during the regular season. And sometimes during that regular season game was a team that didn't have your talent, but your team was. just kind of sleepwalking, maybe in your conference championship game and then in the playoffs, right? Now you kind of got out coach him, like Lane's powers and offensive play caller is on full display feels like eight of the 12 games.

Yeah. Look at yesterday, why do you think Venables, you know, Venables and Kirby are probably the two best defensive coaches that are head coaches. Patricia is probably an overqualified college coach. Yeah. You know what I mean? How well he's doing? But they match up well against who.

Kaelin Dubour and Ryan Grub and Steve Sarkisian. Oklahoma's beat him twice, two times in a row, and obviously he's beaten Sark the last three times they've played in the last two years. Because we're basically even,

right, relatively equals, and it's just a coaching schematic matchup. And I am, Venables and Kirby are elite defensive coaches, just like Lanes and elite, you know, offensive coach. Sark is too, you know, Arch is a little hit or miss.

You know, it's quarterback. If you had a better quarterback play, maybe. And I think coaching is just more, and for old display in more games now than ever. I mean, you and I have to talk, I've come around because yesterday's a great example of like, you know, Oklahoma playing Alabama, well, five years ago, Oklahoma's playing Kansas and Alabama's playing Kentucky on November 15th.

So, you know, USC's playing Colorado and Iowa's playing Minnesota. Those games suck. Now we get the match. They're playing each other. Yeah. You know, the best thing that the SEC ever did was get Oklahoma and Texas to come. Because it is amplified their games that just, they have double the amount of sweet games. They already had a lot.

Hey, listen, I was a Pac-12 fan, but I got Iowa USC in the rain. It was great game. And then I'm getting Oregon, Iowa the week before. That may have been a better game. And so, yeah, I like all this stuff. To me. Texas, Georgia, I mean, it's just been bright lights the last two years. It's must watch.

Yeah, I just think, I'll be honest about Oklahoma. They really surprised me. You know, they've got Mateer, so they have a big-time quarterback that can make the plays. I think my big takeaway out of that, I had said last week, two of my big takes were, I don't really buy Texas A&M. They fell behind 30 to 3 and came back in one. I still am not blown away by him. It was a great comeback, but they got manhandle at home for an hour and a half. The second thing is Ty Simpson.

I don't see the traits. I am a trait guy. I don't care what your record was in college. Josh Allen couldn't win in college. Mahomes on a losing record. I don't really care. The bottom line is, I have to say wow at something. Like Kyler Murray may not be a great NFL quarterback, but I'm watching him run around and I'm like, wow, that's better than Russell Wilson. That's wow. Yeah. Ty Simpson's fine, but it's kind of a JJ McCarthy thing, surrounded by good players. There's not a single trait where I'm like, shush, that's first round. Ty Simpson's

draftable. To me, he feels like a mid-late second round guy. did you have a different opinion about the Bama quarterback? Because two weeks ago, everybody said Heisman number one pick. Well, I'd say this. Ten years ago before quarterback inflation, which started with the Mahomes, Al and Lamar kind of run, and everyone's been drafting, overdrafting quarterbacks. Guys like Ty Simpson and J.J. McCarthy went in the third or fourth round.

Ask Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins. I mean, that wasn't that long ago. Those guys, they won a lot of games in college. Mississippi State was number one team for a moment when Dak was there. Google Kirk Cousins record in college. Those guys went in the third and fourth round. To me, Ty Simpson has never been a top 100 pick till the last seven, eight years, right?

J.J. McCarthy, maybe because it come from Michigan's like a third rounder. But these guys now, this quarterback inflation, they get overdrafted. Now, JJ, to me, is a more physically, brings more to the table than Ty Simpson. I mean, Ty Simpson, Ryan Williams, the star wide receivers, fallen off a cliff. The other two guys are still pretty, like,

he's playing with some pretty elite coaching and some pretty elite talent. I love Michael Penix, but Michael Penix is not good. And you go back, well, Michael Penix played with three NFL wide receivers in elite coaching. Right? So it's just, I'm out on time. This quarterback class is terrible. I was texting around yesterday. It is not good.

It's not good at all. Lenora Sellers, who in the, you watch that first half against Texas. Sam, you're like, God, this guy, the second half is just atrocious. Well, who's he going up against Mike Elko? That guy's an elite defensive coach. What did he do? He made a couple adjustments. Sellers is seeing go.

and it's just a train wreck. So to me, this is not, if I hear one more time about the Browns or Jets, their savior does not exist with a top five pick in this draft. It does not. So if that's what they're, obviously that's what they were hoping, but I don't see any of these quarterbacks. I like Mendoza. I like his size and I like the fact that he won.

I like the fact that he went Cal to Indiana. He's never had five-star teammates. He's never had a great old line. I like the fact, big, strong. big arm. You know, he comes to his family, Cuban immigrants. It's a great story.

Like, you wrap your arms, like, oh, this kid's worked his ass off. Really a good leader. I do think he looks different. Also, he's 22, Dante Moore's 20. I think that matters a ton. He, to me, that Penn State drive, and how he played against Illinois

and Penn State late and Oregon, if you go to three moments of this season where you were like, okay, Mendoza, you have to deliver. Otson Stadium, last drive Penn State, Illinois game. I thought he was unbelievable in all three. Yeah, and he's going to play in even bigger games. I mean, he's going to get Ohio State in the championship game more than likely.

He's going to play in playoff games. I mean, who knows? If they play Ohio State close in the championship game, Ohio State and them could host. Like, they could be, because they can c, they can c, they can c, because they can c, they can see the top four however they want. And to me, if you lose to Ohio State by under 10 points, I got no problem making Indiana, top four seats. So they are, they're going to play in math.

Massive games against the Georgia's, the Oklahoma's. He's got a chance to really solidify himself because obviously it's what he did against Oregon. I had some buddies at the game in the scouting world, and they said his mental toughness to bounce back after that pick six and make plays. Obviously the Penn State game. But now he gets to go up against Ohio State. He gets to go up against probably one of these SEC teams. I mean, Oklahoma, that could be, who knows, maybe a first-round matchup, Oklahoma against Indiana. I mean, you're going to get some great matchups for him specifically.

obviously his coach and Cignetti, they've done an incredible job. I do think Oklahoma, here's what I will say about Venables, because I was Googling him last night. Basically in 99, he came with Stoops to Oklahoma. He's worked at two places in 25 years, Oklahoma and Clemson. So he knows two things really well. Because do that run with Stoops and then with Davo, he can recruit. He cares about recruiting. You and I talk, some coaches like, I don't want to recruit.

He cares and he tries. And Oklahoma is a good recruiting operation. He cares about it. And he's a great defense. defensive coach. And you watch his team, you go, they got players, which he's recruiting, and his defense is elite. So like, I think people, little meatheady and stuff, he brings some stuff to the table. Yeah. He will recruit and his defense is elite. And listen, he just paid that 30 year old and mater to come. So it's like, hey, you take the offense and I'll do the program and the

defense. And we'll be, we'll have talents. And we will be, they're not good on defense. They are SEC dominant on defense. Yes. And I, and that surprised me. Texas is, um, winning a lot of games didn't surprise me. You know, it's funny since Texas joined the SEC, they've only got like four losses, three are to Georgia. Yeah, so everybody's selling all their Texas stock. It's like they can't beat Georgia. It's like the Seahawks can't beat the Rams.

Darnold's beating everybody else. Sark and I thought Arch played okay. I don't love, I think losing gold into the NFL. I don't feel like Texas has a number one dominant receiver. I really thought Arch played okay. I, first of all, I think George is a much more physical program. I just think they are. You know, you and I have said this.

USC and Texas are pretty. They're finesse. They're pretty. They're cool. George is not cool. George is tough. George is hard. And I think George is a bad matchup for Texas football.

I think they just... Well, don't you think the identity... Look at the identity of these coaches. You know, USC actually has shown some toughness, but relative to what they are in their heyday, not even close. Sark, you know, got a little finesse. He's an offensive guy. Lane, who's the, you know, just the, everyone says they got a higher lane. And he's awesome, offensive coach.

His defense is terrible. Yeah. Right? I mean, it's even the identity of DeBoer. Alabama's defense shell of itself what it used to be. Offensive team, right? Oklahoma, Kirby, like, those guys are defensive guys. So Kirby last night went on the tirade of, yeah, we don't do checks here without

physicality. It goes hand in hand. So you're not just getting the money and getting to check out and run around and score touchdown. you're getting screamed at here. We're hitting people. We're hitting people hard. But that's who he is.

And I think it's hard. Like, Lane and Sark, it's not really their thing. They want to score points. They want to go fast. They want to make, but that's who they are. I don't even blame them. The one thing, you know, Sark really has, their defense is actually pretty good, but he should recruit the cream of the crop.

Like, he can run what Kirby has done of Georgia, what Pete and Urban have done and Sabin have done. He gets to pick of the litter attacks because they got the most money and people want to play there. Yeah, I think Sark's good. Again, they can't beat Georgia, and I think there's a reason for it. What's interesting is... Arch, Arch let them down at moments this year. He's gotten better and has taken them a little while. And last night, guys drop balls early.

But then as the game went on, he started missing some guys, and their margin for error is just smaller. I will say this, though. Right now, Oklahoma has a better identity than Texas does. 100%. And I think that is, that's what I've said about USC. it's funny. I've been banging on USC's culture. And last night when Lincoln won, he went out and said, that was a culture win. That was a culture win.

Because he hears all the criticisms that we know you're smart and a good offensive coach. We know you're a great play caller. Everybody knows that with Lincoln. I mean, they've been number one or two. They're number one in offense or number two in offense this year. That's even when they lose, they lose in shootouts. Except the Notre Dame games have been tough for them. But he came out.

2110 in the rain at half. It did not feel good. No. By the way, I not only had a good blazing five, my only college pick was Iowa. I thought it was just going to be a close, ugly game. But they won. And now, I don't think USC matches up well with Oregon.

Although, I'll tell you, I think USC thinks they match up well. My problem is you can beat USC down the field throwing the ball. And if Oregon's healthier at wide receiver, they'll beat USC down the field. Oregon's a big play offense. USC gives up big plays. They can be very good in the red zone. They've got excellent safeties when Bishop and Kamari Ramsey are healthy. Actually, USC's safety is pros.

Camari Ramsey's probably a second round guy. The other guy is probably a fifth round guy. But if Wayne and Jordan comes back, they're running back for USC. I think they'll move the ball a little bit. It'll be competitive. But I think Oregon doesn't give up a time. ton of big plays under Dan Lannning and USC does and that's the difference. If it was at L.A., I think I would think it was 3330. You think USC has a shot? I mean, it was hard. I mean, I watched some of that

game on Friday night when they were playing Minnesota and their backup tight end. It was just a, I mean, Oregon's got some players. Their defensive line is got two first round linemen. they got two tight ends that just look like they would catch seven balls on Sunday immediately. I mean, it's just like, where are they getting? Now, they've been recruiting at a really high level for a long time. I do think it's a tough match. I also think, you know, the buzz on Lincoln over the last, like, two weeks had been,

like, the program had finally kind of turned the corner. They've been winning some games. Like, is this guy going to leave? Something weird's going on? Like, there was, and there's a lot of smoke out there with a lot of these college coaches. I've heard things, rumors about Kalin-Dibor. just it's not a great fit. I'm like, where do you go?

I don't know, Penn State. It's just weird fit for him. And I just think fit matters, but I think Lincoln, I think you tweeted this out. It's twice now in basically three weeks. The Nebraska game, when they missed the field goal, he went nuts. And last night, when they won, he went, I've never seen him do that. So twice this year, I think he feels the weight of the world. How could you not?

Younger guy, you take $120 million. First couple of years are just weird. This year, I mean, I don't think they're that talented. So if they end up going nine and three, I actually think he's done a pretty good job. But it does feel big picture like they're still watching some of these top teams, like still pretty far away from, like, there is a chance that they get, I don't know, blown out by 25 points this weekend, right? Get killed.

I think they're going to have a hard time stopping Oregon. I think they'll score, but I think it could get lobsided pretty fast. All right, John, we won our Monday night football pick last week for Hard Rock Ben. Dallas minus three against the Raiders. I got to tell you, I'm watching Kansas City and Denver play, and I'm like, man, the Raiders are a long way from that. I was always a supporter of Pete Carroll. They're just nothing I like right now with the Raiders.

At least the Cowboys, I feel in this spot, standalone game. I kind of feel like I know I'm going to get some offensive efficiency. Maybe if it was four points, Four and a half, I would take the Raiders. I just don't see anything. I just feel like Dak in a standalone game, extra day to prepare for a competent offense, I would probably take the Cowboys to win in cover. Yeah, I feel like everyone's doing that, so I'm just going to take the Raiders.

Do not feel good about it. Maybe Gentie just has finally a breakout game. Maybe he rushes for 150 yards. You just have to imagine Pete Carroll's going to have at least one moment during the season. Are you surprised how bad it's been to Raiders? I think they are too, because you know, you trade for Gino, you draft Gentie. I think maybe they didn't think they were going to win 10 games, but I think they thought that they would be a competitive 7-8 win team.

They've been atrocious. So Monday night football, I would say historically when you look at some of these games with bad teams, you do get sometimes Herculean efforts, you know, from bad teams. You've seen a lot of upsets, not that Cowboys Raiders is a big upset. But I would expect, if Pete Carroll has anything left, we get a really good showing from the Raiders. John Middletoff, over an hour. Good stuff. Appreciate it, bud. See it. The volume.

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