The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Celtics Dominate Knicks In Game 3, Derek Carr Retires

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

Colin Cowherd reacts to the Boston Celtics winning game 3 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals over the New York Knicks. Jayson Tatum, Jalen Brown and company hit their 3 pointers today and continued their road dominance this season. Knicks lose their 3rd straight home playoff game . Who does Colin like to win the series now? Colin gives his prediction for Timberwolves-Warriors and discusses why he is loving the Denver Nuggets right now. Colin gives his take on Derek Carr retiring from the NFL & what it means for the New Orleans Saints going forward. (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And the Celtics haven't lost three straight games in two years. I've said this before on FS1 and on my radio show is they're a very strange championship team. Like Denver's not. I kind of know what Denver is. When they got rid of KCP and Bruce Brown, they just weren't quite as good on the edges. But I kind of know what I get in these close clutch games with the Denver Nuggets. Boston's a better road team than they are a home team. And that's been a couple of years now.

They were 35 and 9 on the road this year. That's the second best road win percentage ever. They're a better road team than a home team. That's just unheard of. I mean, all championship teams are usually viable on the road, right? They've got some experience, aren't intimidated by crowds. College kids get overwhelmed on the road. I've always said this in college football.

You know, outside of your great teams, you know, Ohio State last year lost in Oregon, but they weren't overwhelmed in Oregon. was a good team. But most of the time, a college football team that's not a top three or four team, they go on the road and you get a different team. College basketball, different team. In the NBA, if you have a veteran team, you know, I remember a few years ago in the finals, Warriors went in and stole one in Boston. The Celtics were a younger team. It's just not that big of a deal. Boston now is a veteran team. There's no other way to classify them. Tatum, Brown, you know, Porzingis, Al Horford, Derek White. It's a veteran.

and team. So home and road's not really a thing, but to be that good on the road is pretty remarkable. I'm trying to wrap my arms around why they're not a more dominant home team. We know Boston is one of the more intimidating crowds. We know every game's a sellout. Does this team play with a certain level of anxiety at home? Do they take their foot off the gas at home? I don't know what it is. But I do think the team is a really close unit. And I think that kind of community and collaborative, I mean, we all know, Boston's sometimes to a fault, super collaborative. We wish Jason Tatum was more selfish. So maybe that kind of unified spirit, I've compared them to the warriors a little bit, you know, where you have a lot of shooters, a lot of guys that are smart, they get along, young guys don't necessarily fit in these

Celtics or those warriors. They're just, they're really close. And there's a certain unity that bonds on the road and maybe they just take their foot off the gas at home. I can't explain it. But, and the Knicks, by the way, are not great at home either. One in three. And the New York crowd is fantastic. So the Knicks this year are one and three at home in the postseason. So I don't know what to make of it. I will say this, that Boston's got better players. And Peyton Pritchard is a great example. At one point, Peyton Pritchard had 27 points in 23 minutes. and, you know, another guy that spent some years in college and has come out and been an incredibly viable player. And, you know, I watched Cleveland dispose.

Cleveland now is at full strength. And, boy, Indiana struggled to stop them. Everybody this year struggled to stop Cleveland when they were at full strength. So now you look at that series differently. That thing wasn't competitive. Pacers could not make stops. So, you know, all of a sudden now the cream rises over the last time. 24 hours with the Cavaliers and the Celtics.

It has been a very unique postseason where underdogs have done well and road teams have done well. I think that's great for the league. I still don't know what to do with the Denver OKC series. I said this walking around my neighborhood this morning, is that OKC is like Boston, brilliantly constructed, Sam Presti, great GM, Boston between Aange and Stevens, a brilliantly constructed team. But if you're telling me, I'm not so sure.

I could argue if you just gave me every starting five in the NBA and said, all right, let's play five minutes. I'd take Denver. I get Yokic. Murray offensively can be an exceptional playoff player. Aaron Gordon, I've loved for years. He now can suddenly hit threes. So, you know, these playoffs have been just so dramatic.

I think the one team we're all kind of confused with is Denver. When the line and the odds came out for OKC Denver, it was so disrespectful to the Nuggets. It's like, what are we doing here? Basically, in the league, we all know who's good. Boston's good. We know OKC's good. We know Cleveland's good. I think Denver's good. And I don't think the odds makers do. And I will remind everybody that if you have the world's best player, surrounded by really good players, you know, history tells you will prevail, usually at least getting to the conference finals. So I think Oklahoma City with a deeper roster is built to win a

long series. I think they'll bounce back and I think they'll, they'll win game four in Denver. That's my guess. I mean, they led the entire game last night. But when you watch all these playoffs, I think there's an understanding of who the really good teams are in the NBA. And we don't put the Knicks in that class. And that's not a knock on them. I think the Knicks have benefited greatly from the way the games have been officiated. I mean, OG is just a big, dog. He's a big pro athlete. And, you know, the Knicks have Mitchell Robinson and really good defenders and even their best score Brunson, who again was good today. He's just, he's tough. He's just a tough physical Villanova guy. So I think the benefit the Knicks have is that this is not regular

season basketball where the Knicks really struggled against deep and excellent offensive teams like Cleveland, OKC, and Boston. The Knicks really struggled. Now the NBA is allowing these playoff games to get muddy and to get grabby and to get physical. And that really benefits the Knicks. So my guess is the Celtics come out in a much closer game four and even the series. Then it goes back to Boston. Boston's the better team. I mean, at one point, the Celtics, you know, they're hot and cold on threes. At one point, they were 12 for 19 on threes. The one advantage playing Boston is that you don't commit a ton of fouls because Boston doesn't get to the free throw line. The Knicks only committed 16 fouls.

That's not about officiating. Boston shoots threes. So the good news for New York is their rugged physical players shouldn't get in a ton of foul trouble. Because very rarely does Boston attack the basket. And so, you know, you got Mikhail Bridges who plays a lot of minutes and never misses games. And you got Jalen Brunson, who's a workhorse and a warrior. So, I mean, you're not, you're not, this isn't a series where New York's going to worry about, you know, tick-tack fouls and being physical.

The referees are allowing this series to go right into New York's hands, but they're not as gifted offensively, and you really saw it today. Every time they felt like you got close, Tatum hit a three, Horford hit a three, Pritchard hit another three. It was a real mismatch like it was when they played during the regular season. So I think the playoffs have been really good and really fun. And my guess is tonight, without Steph, going back home, the Warriors and the T-Wolves have a really, really good basketball game. I don't know if it's must watch. It'll be a very entertaining watch.

It will have to be low-scoring or Golden State's got no shot because the dexterity and the size and the options you have. I mean, Minnesota's got a really good roster. the other night you're watching Golden State play 14 guys. It's just, it's not, it's not a symphony. It's not an orchestra without Steph Curry. It's just kind of whoever's hot. Give it to Jimmy Butler, cross your fingers on Buddy Heald. This team offensively, just not the same team.

They play a different style. It's, I said it's like open mic night. Who's got the best material? Who's hot? Get them the ball. That's not, that's not the ecosystem when Steph is playing. So I think we'll have a close game tonight. I would probably take the T-Wolves.

Aunt Edwards has to perform better. I would take the T-Wolves tonight to beat Golden State in a really, really close game out West. So, listen, this really has become, I'll read you a stat, a make or miss league on three-pointers. It's hard when fans, I know fans want to complain about officiating, but Boston doesn't get to the free throw line, right? They settle for threes. So you can complain. The NBA wants Boston in the final. Why don't they get to the free throw line?

They jack up threes. Before Jimmy Butler, Warriors never got to the free throw line with Steph. So the three-point avalanche, it really hurts guys who think the league is rigged. The teams that really shoot threes well don't get to the free throw line. Here's what a make or miss league it is. If the Celtics had gone, went 27 of 100 from three in the first two games,

they would be up three, oh, in the series. But, you know, that's that's the downside. And I remind people when, you know, KD, Steph, and Clay has had so much overwhelming talent. But pre-KD and post-KD, even teams that won championships for the Warriors, when Warriors got blown out a lot because they didn't get to the free throw line and it's a make or miss league. And Boston feels a lot like that. I do think they have so many players.

who shoot well from beyond the arc, that eventually it's a bit of an aberration to shoot as poorly as they did in game two after game one's performance. So I think the Celtics will even it up. But I think there's a certain winning fatigue. It's going to be hard to beat the next four to five games. It's the league's allowing these series to be muddied up,

and I think that's really hard. I think this was one of those games. I don't know what the numbers say. When you beat a team twice, in their place, you come back home for game three. That's a hard one to win. Boston was going to win, right? I think game four is close, but I take the Celtics again in a six to seven point game. All right, Derek Carr retired, four-time pro bowler. We all know for rookie quarterbacks, where you land is about 75% of the game. I mean, Sam Darnold now looks really good. He didn't with the Jets in Carolina. Okay, Bo Nix looked great with Sean Payton.

What do you have looked that good with Matt Eberflus in Chicago? Probably not. or Dennis Allen in New Orleans. So there's a bit of pity for Derek Carr, who I think second round out of Fresno State, good player, not great, but a four-time Pro Bowl. Basically, he comes into the league and goes to the Raiders. And the Raiders were mostly an S-show the entire time. And he was a bit of a life preserver that made them viable. He was making Pro Bowls. He was a very solid quarterback. And not great, but I thought a little like Kirk Cousins, a gamer. And then he leaves and thinks, I'm going to go to New Orleans, but he's getting Dennis Allen, who in two head coaching stints proved to be more coordinator, a good coordinator, not a head coach. So even for veteran quarterbacks, I mean, I always use Tom Brady as an example. So Tom Brady is getting older. He's in New England. And New England could not draft and develop wide receivers. So, you know, of the teams that Tom Brady looked at going to, Chargers had like Keenan Allen, you know, a legitimate receiver and the Buccaneers that had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. And then he, you know, he gets

Gronk out of retirement, gets A-B to come down to Tampa. So, you know, Brady figured it out. He went from grumpy defensive guy Belichick to kind of life of the party, Bruce Ariens' offensive coach and a team that was stacked at wide receiver. I mean, James Winston, if he not thrown so many interceptions, Tampa had all sorts of offensive talent. They just, you know, James did his pick-six thing. Brady is a great roadmap for what veteran quarterbacks are looking for. I mean, one of the reasons Matt Stafford wanted to go to Los Angeles, Cooper Cup was in his prime and Sean McVeigh and Andrew Whitworth, the left tackle. He knew he'd have a great coach, a great weapon, and a great left tackle and protection. That's why Matt Stafford was gung-ho about coming to the Rams. And so, I mean, Derek Carr is not as good as Stafford or Tom Brady. But to get, had he inherited Sean Payton, I think it would have gone better clearly in New Orleans. So I do think, Derek had a lot of talent. But where you land, even for veteran quarterbacks, matters a lot. And that's why, like, when Peyton Manning, if you look at him and he chose, remember when everybody out of Indy was after Peyton Manning. Pete Carroll and Seattle, San Francisco, you know, he went to

John Elway in Denver, and they had a couple of good receivers. They had a decent offensive line. And he looked around and thought, you know, I've had neck surgeries. I'm going to have protection. I've got weaponry on the outside. They had a pretty good defense. I don't have to win by shootout. So, you know, ideally, Derek Carr would have gone to a situation where he didn't have a head coach who for the second time was struggling. And it just never worked out. So I think Derek had a really good career. He was able to, like Kirk Cousins, monetize his career. I mean, he made over $200 million. And I get it. Like if you, what's New Orleans right now? They're not a Super Bowl contender. I don't think they're a viable playoff team. I think when Derek got to the Saints, the NFC was weaker than it is now. But now Detroit's a power. Washington watch out. Philadelphia. Rams are through their rebuild. San Francisco is still decent. Baker Mayfield in Tampa. Penix in Atlanta. I like Atlanta's

personnel, at least offensively. So, I mean, what's the point of taking hits? He doesn't need the money. He doesn't need the fame. You know, he's a guy that's deeply religious. He's very much about family. And why get beat up? What's the point? And I totally get that. That's the advantage for football players. now, not making NBA or baseball money, but making great money, what's the point? Football practice is hard. Basketball practice, baseball, batting cage is fun. Hockey and football practice can be hard. If you've got the money and you're not really a playoff level, playoff viable team, what's the point? But I thought Derek had a really good career. He just Raiders Saints. There's only so much you can do. Find the great quarterbacks. You know, find the Staffords, find the Peyton Manning,

find the Brady's. When they have a choice on where to go, look what they select. You wouldn't select once Sean Payton left. You're not going to select the Saints. The volume. The NBA 82 game grind is done. Now the real fun begins.

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