The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Chargers Beat Broncos, Sharp Or Square - Betting NFL Week 16 + The College Football Playoff!

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

Colin reacts to the Chargers beating the Broncos on Thursday Night Football!  (4:00) He tips his cap to Justin Herbert for an elite performance, but also gives kudos to Sean Payton and the Broncos for exceeding expectations this season. He also weighs in on the firestorm he started with his rant about the changes the NBA needs to make in the face of declining TV ratings (12:00)  Chad Millman, host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 16 of the NFL slate plus the College Football Playoff! 23;00- Texans vs Chiefs 25:15 - Steelers vs Ravens 27:45 - 49ers vs Dolphins 29:00 - Colts vs Titans 32:00 - Bears vs Lions 34:30 - Rams vs Jets 36:45 - Packers vs Saints 39:45 - Bills vs Patriots 56:30  - Indiana vs Notre Dame 59:00 - Texas vs Clemson 1:01:30 - Ohio State vs Tennessee 1:04:00 - Transfer portal hurting depth at blue chip programs 1:06:00 - Chad’s Favorite NFL Bets Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #Herd  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know, I've said this is when I started the volume, one of the things I really, really like, when I was in my 20s and 30s, I was probably just too selfish to help anybody else. I was into my thing, and I didn't, you know, I was unmarried. And then you get older and older and you have kids and you get married. And, you know, over time, you know, hopefully you have something in you that you, You want to see others succeed. And I love seeing young quarterbacks in the NFL get the right coach. And Bo Nix could have gotten, you know, countless coaches that couldn't help him.

And he's still, he is still learning. But in that first half, that was all on script. Those first two or three series. And Bo Nix was great because he's now got his mentor. He's got his kingpin. He's got Sean Payton. Now, the second half, it's not on script. That's about talent, and Justin Herbert took over.

Herbert's more talented, bigger, stronger. He's just a more talented experienced quarterback in the NFL. But both of these guys, these two teams last year were 13 and 21. I mean, think about that. And right now, they're 18 and 12, and both are going to make the playoffs. One got a coach, and one Sean Payton got a quarterback. And tonight was a PSA for the league. you get the right coach, you get the right quarterback.

You can turn it around in one season. It doesn't even matter in the NBA if you land Janus or Yokic. It takes years and years to build up to be viable. In Major League Baseball, I mean, there's just some teams that can't afford it, right? But in the NFL, Houston was a laughing stock, a bottom three team in the league to meet O'Ryan's C.J. Stroud playoffs. The Chargers last year, I think by the end of the year, they had a team mutiny. They were one of the three worst teams in the league. This defense is all the same guys.

Now, the offense got Joe Alt and Ladd McCawkey. No question. Upgrades. But they're so beat up now. They're using a defensive tackle, are the Chargers as one of their skill people, Matlock, give me a break. They're using return guys and Quentin Johnson still can't catch.

I mean, the second half is, you know, Joel and Ladd McConkey have obviously helped. But the Chargers are so beat up on the back end of their defense. And they're beat up at tight end. They didn't have Will Disley. You know, they don't have J.K. Dobbins. And, you know, they're still a draft away. They're about six players away. They need a tight end, another running back, although Gus Edwards had a great, huge run of the game. But it just

shows you why the NFL is king. You just either get a coach, get a quarterback, or Houston, get both. And you're a playoff team. And it's just, I've always called the NFL the League of Hope. But let's first start with the Chargers. They were, what did Al Michaels say tonight? I can't believe Al Michaels is this good at 80. The guy is such a talented guy. Al Michaels is still funny and quick. And he and Herb Street sound like they like each other. Al Michaels is so good at 80 years old. It's insane. He just signed for next year, by the way. But he had said at one point, the Chargers were like, oh, for their last 11 and games decided by three points or less. They just don't know how to win. You know, they just don't know how to win. And they take this team at the end of last year. It was a disaster at

the end of the year. Could have been the worst team in the league. Same guys on defense. And in fact, half the defensive guys in the back end are hurt. Derwin James is healthy and carrying them. But they're all banged up and look at them. And it was such a testament to Harbaugh's coaching because, I mean, Harbaugh and Herbert tonight won the game. Harbaugh's halftime adjustments and Jesse Minter and then Herbert in the second half, scrambling on a bad ankle for a first down. that throw for a touchdown in the end zone moving to his left throwing it off his bad foot it was just a Herbert Harbaugh second half of just great coaching smart adjustments Herbert doing what he's doing it's just it makes me really happy I feel really bad for Caleb

Williams none of it is his fault I just feel bad for the kid and maybe it's because in my life I've had really you know I've been very fortunate that I've landed at good spaces especially early in my career when I didn't know what the hell I was doing. It's just so important. I tell my kids this all the time. It's not just about you. You're going to hopefully find somebody that can mentor you, cares about your well-being, and, you know, in the job market, and they will make the best out of you.

And I feel like that's what Jim Harbaugh is doing to Herbert. And that's what Sean Payton's doing to Bo Nix. Both teams are a draft away, right? Denver doesn't have a ton of depth. The chargers need more weapons. and a couple corners. But in the end of the half sequence was so perfectly Harbaugh. He's competing to the very end.

I mean, Jim Harbaugh is competing to the very end. And some people say he's weird, he's intense. Okay, it's the NFL. Belichick was intense. Dan Campbell's intense. Sean Payton's intense. So end of the first half, you know, they get that field goal. And that's just Harbaugh, battling to the end.

So there's a big difference between going in, down what they would have been, and then the field goal, you got a real football game. And trailing eight at half feels a lot different than trailing by 12. And, I mean, that kind of momentum into the locker room and change the energy and the juice. And I thought Denver had all the juice in the first half and the Chargers had all of the juice with that field goal going into intermission in the second half. And the Chargers outscored the Broncos 24 to 6 once Harbaugh called that timeout into the first half and got the free kick before halftime.

24 to 6. Just battling and fighting to the very end. Herbert in the second half, by the way. Jesus. And he, again, he is working with return guys, a first round receiver that can't catch, a defensive lineman, backup running back. Herbert in the second half, 11 of 15, two touchdowns,

pass a rating of 142.8. Jesus. I mean, it's just it is just I just isn't that crazy is that you know Sean Payton takes this shipwreck Denver I think I like their GM but it's a mess they're in dead cap hell in the AFC and before the season started Vegas had them at five and a half wins and I thought that and I said it was my favorite double win total I thought they would double that I thought they'd get in kind of the nine eight nine category they're going to make the playoffs they're in with nine wins now and

they'll they'll win one of their final three games and I think they're capable of winning a playoff game. I don't think Denver's capable of winning two or three, but I think they're capable of winning a playoff game. I feel the same way about the Chargers. They kind of have to win one way. They've got to have Herbert be Superman. They've got to have everybody healthy.

Pittsburgh's got this feel. Pittsburgh, Denver, and the Chargers. Those are one playoff win teams. Herbert finishes the night about, what is it, 23 or 31, 300 yards? It is. It's just, you know, remember a couple years ago, and the media, you know, the media went through a weird thing where it was very sensitive. And I remember about three or four years ago, and the media was just saying, oh, these Thursday night games, they're unfair to players.

Oh, give me a break. So I called players. I talked to, I talked to, are like, we love Thursday night games. Usually it's a division rival, so you don't have to do a ton of film study, like tonight. You're playing somebody you know. And it's usually a division game. So the travel isn't too long. It's a two-hour flight somewhere.

And you don't hit during that week. And then you get almost a second by week. And the media was freaking out about Thursday night games. We've had some sensational Thursday night games. Tonight was sensational. I thought it would be much sloppier. I thought Denver was so crisp in the first half. Now, in the second half, Denver, I mean, let's face it, they aided the chargers on that long

drive. They had a couple guys off sides. That was a huge break. There were two big moments in the game for me. The end of the halftime kick. And then Denver had a series of penalties as the Chargers got that big drive, which eventually ended up with Herbert making that throw for a touchdown in the end zone. But they have three or four defensive penalties. And that really gave them. They really seized momentum. And you could hear the crowd a little bit getting into it. And God, that was just fun. Hold on my phone's ringing. It's probably just. and Herbert. I'm sorry to be obnoxious. Can I be happy? Chad Millman's coming on for Sharper Square. We're going to do some college games this week because I think there's a couple of, I have two college

games I'm betting that I love. Okay, so a big topic of conversation before I get to Chad Millman has been the NBA ratings this week. And I saw JJ Redick said tonight, you know, the league needs to be celebrated. No, the NBA needs to be audited. don't blame the fans because the ratings are down. If you own a restaurant and people aren't buying certain items on the menu, change the menu, the audience is right, the consumer's right.

The NBA is celebrated too much. The players are pampered and coddled and not called out enough. I mean, good hell. Adam Silver, two years ago, said, our players are miserable. Twitter is making them miserable.

Can you imagine a football player saying that? Give me a break. The league is celebrated constantly. It needs to be audited. It needs to be held accountable. Load management's crap. The three-point shooting is gross. In fact, did you notice who talked about the three-point shooting? LeBron James was asked about the All-Star game changes. And he dropped an F-bomb and said, here's what I notice. Teams are shooting way too many. threes. LeBron James said that, a guy that loves the game. Joe Missoula, the coach of the Celtics, was asked this week about the ratings, and he said, yeah, I don't watch our game either. So that's the championship coach and the best player in the last 20 years, criticizing the league from a position of power, not seeking attention. In fact, LeBron didn't want to go into it. He kept saying, I don't want to get too into it. So the people that are criticizing the NBA are not bringing a hatchet, they're not anti-this or pro-nistalgia. When your stuff isn't selling, change the menu.

Rob Manfred did and Adam Silver needs to. For the record, when you make changes to your menu, to your business, the consumer always responds. Always. I mean, baseball was in a 15-year drought. Rob Manfred made two changes. The ratings went up the last two years. This year they went through the roof during the postseason.

People want to watch sports. I want to watch the NBA. I tried watching the championship NBA Cup. Oklahoma City was 5 of 32 from threes. It was awful. It was unwatchable. It was drag. So, you know, nobody's against the NBA.

People that criticize it, watch it. I watch it all the time. I don't really get into it until the football season's done. But, you know, by February, you know, you have the two weeks before the Super Bowl. I start watching 30 minutes a night, 40 minutes. it tonight. So I thought it was interesting that Joe Missoula and LeBron James both came out and were critical aesthetically of the current product. It's not a good watch. And when something falls off the cliff in two years, three years, got to look in the mirror. It's not about

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My buddy, Chad Millman, co-host of the favorites, all odds provided by Draft Kings. You know, listen, the college football games this weekend won't get the NFL numbers because nothing in the world does. But there's some heaters, and we'll get to that in about 15 minutes. There's some fascinating games. I mean, I'm sorry, it doesn't make any sense because he's been so good. But if Ryan Day loses home to Tennessee, it's going to be a shitstorm. in Columbus. It's going to be crazy. So we'll get to that in 15 minutes. Let's do Sharper Square. I've had a terrible year. I've had my worst year ever doing this. And I don't really know.

I don't want to outthink the room. I'm about 55% every year. I'm not a pro gambler, but I think I'm, you know, in the ballpark. I've been terrible this year. And I can't, you know, I think a lot of it is, I've always liked value and underdogs. And it's just week to week, I go dogs, favorites win. Some week I go favorites. So I'm just going to give you my thought, on this. The Chiefs are now three and a half point favorites. It's more stay away now, but when it was two and a half, even with Carson Wentz potentially playing, I love Kansas City. I think Carson Wentz for a week is fine. For a season, you can't trust his health. So I would imagine it three and a half, the sharps like the Texans. But if I like the two and a half and three Kansas City,

Now, if I say I like Kansas City, is it square? Totally square. Yeah, the wise guys are playing the three and a half because up until last weekend, any time you're betting on Patrick Mahomes, as a more than three-point favorite, you're making a negative ROI bet. He just has not won as a favorite of more than three. Last weekend, obviously he did. They were four and a half point favorites.

They covered. But even in that game, you saw the pressure getting to Mahomes consistently. You saw them lose the Browns because James Winston had two interceptions in the end zone that were from in the Chief's end zone from about his 30-yard line. So killing two drives, plus they had three other turnovers, including to open the game. You look at that game, the defense gave up seven points, right? And so that game was closer statistically than you would imagine. by the score itself. So there is going to be a sentiment you take the Texans at plus three and a half.

At two and a half, 100 percent people were still taking the chiefs. That's why the number got all the way up to three and a half. Yeah. So a prime example, the Steelers get beat and pretty soundly by Philadelphia. But what's lost in that game is they had 80 yards in the first half and only trailed 1713 in Philly. If Naji Harris doesn't fumble, we got ourselves a football game. Yes. To give the Steelers six and a half, you know what the Ravens are? They're the Mike Tyson. They're bullies. First round knockouts against bad teams. You push them back. You make them think. Baltimore can get beat by a lot of good teams. Pittsburgh pushes back. Tomlin is a six and a half point underdog. So I this to me is the steel of the week Pittsburgh plus six and a half in Baltimore, sharper square. Yeah, wise guys love this bet.

And it's almost become a blind bet in this series. Wise guys like Mike Tomlin as an underdog anyways. And you're right, that game, Najee Harris, the Steelers were outplayed and in the middle of the third quarter. If he doesn't fumble the ball, if he doesn't fumble the ball, they're on the 16-yard line, they're at least kicking a field goal to make it a 2016 game, or they're scoring a touchdown to make it 2020, changes the game, right?

Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin and Raw-Ross spots, any way you slice and dice it, Mike Tomlin as an underdog, is the best coach in a generation against the spread. He is best coach in a generation winning straight up as an underdog. In this series, specifically, as a dog of three or more versus the Ravens, he is six and no straight up.

There's six and no against the spread. He's 13, 2, and 2 against spread versus Harbaugh. When the line in this series is three or more points the past 20 years, so it's the Harbaugh-Tomlin reign. The underdog is 23, 4, and 3 against a spread. Since 2015, underdog 16 and 2 and 1 against the spread. So, like, yeah, there are times where you're nervous about playing into these trends. And we talked about this on the show last week, betting the Steelers, fading the Chiefs, those were times we were nervous.

Like, it happens six times out of ten. This time, it's happening eight times out of ten. So, yeah, you're playing the Steelers. I like the 49ers plus one at the Dolphins. I think one of the things that's become pretty clear with the dolphins. is if they're not playing an oppressive humidity at home, they get pushed around by more physical teams. I think they're the ultimate finesse team in this league.

And, you know, as I watch them against Houston, it's just bubble screens. That's all they do. Tua is now throwing 40 times a game. That's way too much for Tua. The teams like the Packers and the Eagles have scaled back with more talented quarterbacks to throw 24 times a game. I think the 49ers, I think it comes down to pride.

For Brock Purdy, it comes down to a contract. I like the 49ers here, sharp or square? Sharp-ish. Like the line opened one and a half. It's been bet down, obviously, from me one and a half to one. For a minute, very hot minute, the Niners were favorites. And then it sort of bounced back a little bit. But that money that's moving it is professional money in favor of the Niners.

Not a huge sort of feeling on that game. They just sort of think that the Niners are probably. probably a more physical team. Are they getting more healthy? They don't, they don't believe in the dolphins is the bigger, bigger component of their thinking. Okay. The Colts were dominating the Broncos until Jonathan Taylor. And it was a blowout. They go home now and have to swallow three and a half. But the Titans are, they have Benchwell Levis. I was texting a GM this week and I said I think if you gave Sam Donald to the Colts, they have the Viking season. I like their personnel.

I mean, I haven't seen anybody this year, including the Chiefs, push the Broncos around, especially in Denver. I mean, it was a mismatch. Three picks for Bo Necks. I think Indy, I don't care what the line is. I think they're going to come back. I think Chris Ballard's jobs in the line. Anthony Richardson's careers on the line. Shane Steichen with that trick play that got a pick six.

I think Indy is inflamed, and I think they blow the Titans out, Sharper Square. So the Wise Guys are on Tennessee. This line was at four and a half, even when Will Levis was possibly the quarterback. It's been bet down immediately with Mason Rudolph as the quarterback. The wise guys have liked the Titans a lot this year.

they've also liked the Colts this year. Their biggest fear is betting Anthony Richardson as a favorite. If you want to talk about comps, the comps for Anthony Richardson and his completion percentage right now, Tim Tebow and Achilles Smith in the past 25 years, this season will go down as one of the worst in completion percentage because of how badly Anthony Richardson is playing. And I think there was a sentiment after he was benched. He came back and he looked like he was a little bit more in control.

They were putting him in better positions. He was just awful against the Broncos. They were winning that game in spite of him. And look, like, I was on the Colts last week. Jonathan Taylor dropping that ball was gut-wrenching. I was on the Steelers last week. Najee Harris dropping that ball. And this was all happening.

If you're watching Red Zone, this is like, boom, boom, boom. It was just like gut punch after gut punch after gut punch as a better. But you felt like, and I felt like, Colts had no chance to get back into that game after they gave up the lead because Anthony Richardson can't win you a game. So they're going to have to dominate on the ground in order to cover this three and a half. And like, at the end of the day, you got to win by four points. that's a relatively big number of what should be a run heavy game in which the clock is running a lot. So I think the wise guys are still liking Tennessee in the hook. Part of me says I should love the Bears at home plus six and a half against Detroit.

Jared Goff outside bad weather. I defended Caleb Williams this week. He has more touchdown passes than Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray, more passing yards than Jalen Hertz. and hasn't had an interception since Halloween, is that if you just look at the record, you would think he's awful. And it's like, no, actually, all things considered, now that he's with the third coach,

at home, Detroit defensively, I mean, it's bad. It is, I mean, eight, nine yards a chunk. I think I like Chicago at home, plus six and a half, sharper square. Well, look, the wise guys like Chicago at home when it was at seven and a half and seven. And this is 100% a number play.

You're not going to find anyone taking it at six and a half. If you're taking it at six and a half, we've talked about this, you're just not getting the best of the number. And long term, that's a bad way to try to win games. You might win once in a while, but long term, you want to be on the right side of the number. So the wise guys took the seven and a half.

They took the seven. I think this is a really tricky game. At six and a half is a home dog in the division. Of course I want to be on the Bears. I can't find a way to get there. I'm not saying I'm going to bet Detroit, but there's two schools of thought on Jared Gough. Jared Gough outside is terrible.

Jared Gough indoors is unbeatable. Obviously that happened last week, so it's a hyperbole. but he tends to cover when he is indoors, tends to not when he is outside, and he is a covering machine over the past five years. I look at this in a different way. Sure, their defense is beat up, but all they have to do is hand the ball to Jemir Gibbs

because this bear's rush defense is just atrocious, like putrid. They are giving up 100 yards every single game, no matter who they play. saw it again last week against Minnesota. So I do worry that Detroit is going to come out in a bad mood and try to prove that there's still the class of the NFC, run the ball down the bear's throat, and it doesn't really matter what Caleb Williams does or what the weather is. They might dominate this game.

So I can't tell you at six and a half, you're making a good call. Okay, Rams is now at only minus three. I would take them against the Jets. It was three and a half. I think the Jets played the last two weeks, Devante Adams and Aaron Rogers, you know, have clicked. But the Rams are playing for the playoffs and the Jets are playing for pride. I mean, between the documentary, between Garrett Wilson wanting a trade, the story about Woody Johnson's kids, this has been a messy week for the Jets.

I can gladly swallow the three for a much better team and a much more functional offense. Rams minus three sharper square. I mean, look, wise guys have been on the Jets all week. The wise guys have been on the Jets for much of the year. And much to their dismay, Jeff Ulbrick, the coach, seems to find ways to play them out of wins and covers and then make the stupidest mistakes

that actually leads them into a cover that they never should have covered, right? Last week, he's going for the touchdown with a minute left when the jacks have two timeouts. They end up covering the three-point spread, winning by six, when really he should have kneeled down and left no time and kicked a field goal. Week before, making bad decisions at the end of the game. They end up losing the game to the dolphins and not even covering the three-point spread because they lose by six in overtime.

So he's a menace when it comes to clock management, and he's a menace for betters. But the wise guys do love the Jets right now. Aaron Rogers has been playing significantly better the past two weeks. You could argue, well, the old man went to Florida, and when you're old and you're in Florida, you're going to feel better, and now he's got to come back and play in the cold in New Jersey. But there is something about the Rams, and the fact that they have to go into the cold, too,

Stafford does not perform as well then. And also, this is a team. You get late in the year. You get teams that are what I like to call good-ish, right? 50 to 60% in terms of winning percentage. And they're playing bad teams on the road. That is a recipe for disaster in terms of covering the spread. Not saying they're going to lose, but those games tend to be closer.

So the wise guys are definitely back in the Jets this week. Okay, I'm not prone to do this. But Green Bay minus 14 against the Saints. just screams take the Packers. I thought their win at Seattle was so impressive because I do think Seattle has excellent defensive coaching. This has been a year of the favorites. I think the most underrated player in the league is Jordan Love.

I think he's a magnificent talent. I think the Saints feel like a dead franchise. I think Green Bay still has a chance. They really believe it. I think they're a better team this morning or this afternoon than Detroit. I don't like 14 point favorites, but they're covering, and favorites are covering. And I feel like I've got a ascending young, healthy team against the dead franchise. I think Green Bay is one of the few places where home field is still three to three and a half points, sharper square.

Well, look, you're never going to get a sharp confirmation on a 14 point favorite. there are two 14 point favorites this week, the Packers over the Saints, the Bills over the Patriots. There's been more of a conversation around the bills as 14 point favorites. That line actually ticked up to 14 and a half, and that was very much professionals betting on the bills at 14. Then it came down. Then some professionals, not a whole lot of them, but a couple of them were like, yeah, that's like half a point too far. The Packers, like, sure, there's nobody who's thinking they want to bet on the Saints, but there's not a rush to the window on the Packers.

Everything you just said, everyone agrees with. It's why actually the Wise Guys were on the Packers last week against the Seahawks. That was my favorite bet of the week. Yeah, mine too. It's the only bet I won last week. And so they were on him at two and a half. That was a great spot for the Packers, right? They had just lost a really hard game to the Lions.

And I think that game gave them the confidence that you just talked about. You saw the mastery with which LaFlefort calls a game. Jordan Love has been much more cautious with the ball, hasn't been throwing interceptions. I think the Packers believe they are in the same class as the Vikings and the Lions and the Eagles. And I'd be hard pressed to disagree. I think it's harder to win as to touchdown, favorites against a Saints team that, like, from a, from a wise guy perspective, they just don't like this game as much as they would like the Bills and the Patriots.

And I can tell you why they like the Bills against the Patriots, if that would be interesting to you. Yeah, please. So this is the win Josh Allen, the MVP game, right? There's talk this week because Lamar Jackson threw five touch. against the Giants, that maybe he should be MVP. And you saw the MVP odds shrink a little bit. The bills tend to blow these teams out anyways, right?

They are a team that has a winning record as big favorites in these games, in the division, outside the division, at home. They don't play down to the level of their competition. Their offense can do whatever it wants against the Patriots. If the Patriots are down early, their record against the spread, it's like seven and 21 the past two years. Like they are a terrible team. They cannot recover. So if the bills get out to lead early, which they tend to do, it's a great spot.

The one concern is, you know, the bill secondary has a lot of injuries, but there's really no concerns about the Patriots offense. They got Drake May who's slinging it and trying his best. But right now, Gerard Mayo was throwing Alex Van Pelt under the bus about their offense. There's just a lot of turmoil there. So the wise guys, if they're betting a big favorite, they're more inclined to bet the bills than the Packers. All of these college football reactions presented by J-Lab, I'm wearing my J-Lab earbuds right now. They're awesome. They have the best audio products in the game.

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All right. I want to talk some college football now because I do think Indiana, Notre Dame, and a lot of its weather, I think it's going to be pretty close. I think Notre Dame's a great run team. Indiana is kind of a peculiar, unique run defense. I think really good coaches with time can employ, you know, competitive strategies. We know that Ohio State in Columbus on a nice day to play football is better significantly. Notre Dame doesn't have Ohio State's talent.

And I also think Indiana now has extra time to prepare. Notre Dame has a ceiling offensively, whereas Ohio State doesn't. They just play down to their competition. Notre Dame has a ceiling. And I think Indiana is going to, so I really like Indiana plus seven. How do the wise guys view it? Yeah, look, the numbers come down because wise guys are betting Indiana. And Indiana has been a covering machine this year. Yes. Obviously, that Ohio state game was the biggest challenge. They also didn't cover against Michigan. But that was at a time where Michigan was starting to get better. And the next week they went on and they beat Ohio State.

So that was a much more physical game. Ohio State, Indiana had some bad plays. And they were outclass and you could see the talent difference. I'm with you. The wise guys are with you. And the way Indiana matches up a little bit better with Notre Dame and the time. And look, you can't help but listen to Kurt Signetti. and know that he's playing this game,

and he's got his players playing this game with a huge chip on their shoulder. And we've talked about this. One of the reasons Indiana won this year and why it was able to achieve when other teams that are leaning into the portal weren't able to achieve is because they brought in grown-up college football players.

They didn't bring in five-star recruits who are going to be there for a year and go to the NFL. They brought in guys who are, just really good at college football. And this is a great college football game. And there's a nuanced difference when I say a college football game here. That's the style of game this is going to be. It's going to be physical. It's going to be about execution. It's going to be about not necessarily the best athletes, but the people who do their jobs the best. So I love this game for Indiana.

I like the under on Clemson, Texas. Mostly, not because Texas is going to score a ton. I don't think Clemson can score much on Texas. I'm going to take Texas minus 12. I really feel it has a chance to be 30 to 10. I think the Texas defense is sensational. And I think the Clemson offense, it's almost like that SMU game felt like their bowl game. I think both SMU and Clemson are going to get totally outclassed in their bowl games. I like the under, but I'm going to take Texas minus 12. I think this, remember, Clemson doesn't go to the transatlance. portal. They have holes. Texas out recruits them and goes to the transfer portal. And also, Texas's offense over the last three weeks, I don't think they'll pause. If Quinn Ewer's struggles,

I think they'll go to Archmanning. I don't think they'll pause going forward. I like Texas to roll here, sharper square. Totally sharp. Like, if you're looking, I'm looking in the action app right now, is just checking it out. And you can see in the app, you can see the betting tickets, and you can see the money percentages on each side. And betting tickets is usually an indication of the public. That's the squares who are betting $10, $20, and there's a lot of volume of tickets. Money usually represents where the wise guys are. So the tickets right now are on Clemson. The money is on Texas. And I agree with you and the wise guys agree with you. That defense they have is just fierce.

Like, they did a job on Georgia. And if Texas' offense could execute a little bit better, then we wouldn't be having this conversation about who is the SEC champ. It would have been Texas. So, like, that defense is so freaking good, and it's a veteran defense. Again, we're talking about, like,

guys who have been playing college football for a while, and I think that's an advantage. issue. So the game I'm going to ask you to handicap. I don't get the line. So the line is telling me Ohio State's going to win because it hasn't moved much. So Tennessee's defensive line is significantly better than Ohio State's offensive line, meaning Ohio State's going to have to throw. And it may only be 15 degrees. But this line is telling me that out after that Michigan loss, Ohio State is pissed and Ryan Day's jobs on the line. And Josh Heipels isn't, and it's in Columbus, and it is a warm weather SEC team.

So the line is telling me that Ohio State's going to win this comfortably. That's what it's telling me. Otherwise, when it came out seven and a half, the sharps would have jumped all over this. I mean, Tennessee is the best rushing team in the SEC going into cold weather. It just screams to you, low scoring, take the points. But the line's not moving, and that tells me the sharps like Ohio State. Do they? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, look, it's settled in where it's at, right? And that is because it's been, it's kind of, the advantages is not for Tennessee because of some of these situations that you just talked about. And there is some feeling that this is such a desperate spot for Ryan Day. It's been seven and a half almost since it opened. It was at six and a half for about 30 seconds. Wise guys took the six and a half. They bet Tennessee at six and a half, right?

But there was so much other sentiment coming in on Ohio State that it moved up. So Ryan Day is in a spot and we've talked about this. There was a story in the Wall Street Journal today about Ohio State fans, people calling in to local radio about Max Cross. who, you know, the Lions, the Raiders defensive lineman who's out for the year on his podcast. He's a massive Ohio State fan. Talking about how he wants the team to lose so they get rid of Ryan Day. That is a weird thing to be talking about when you've got a coach who has won as much as he has.

But I think you and I agree, every game for him is going to be a must-win game. And unless they win the championship or they get there and they are so dominant, and he puts himself in a position, even if they lose, it's a way to rebuild the goodwill. It's a Michigan or bust program, and he hasn't beaten them, and they haven't gotten over it. You know, I think sometimes one of the things I love about sports is when there's cultural changes, I like to be, I like to predict what they are. I love the theories and my systems on like what's changing. So something's happening in college football, and college football fans don't yet know it.

So in the NFL, it's almost understood that you've got to give a staff a couple of years, right? Like, it's just really hard. The margins are thin. Well, I think the Ohio states and the Georgia's and the Texas fans, you know, you've always been able to line up and just beat teams. And one of the reasons is over a long season is your backups were as good as their starters. And football's regulated levels of violence. So there's college and pro, there's injuries. But the transfer. portal at NIL has eliminated depth at the Blue Bloods, Georgia, Texas, Clemson. So when you do suffer injuries and the season is now longer than ever, your backups are Purdue starters. That's all they are.

And so these Ohio states and these big Notre Dame, these big traditional powers, as the season goes on, I mean, look at our 12-team playoff. Arizona states in it, SMUs in it, Boisey states. And these are live dogs. And so I don't think quite college football fans understand not only are players getting paid that it looks more like pro football, but your backups stink just like pro football. Detroit's defense now has six backups. It's terrible.

A month ago, it was excellent. And so what creates that? The salary cap. You have bad backups in the NFL. Nobody has depth in the NFL. You eat it like Philadelphia's got great front line starters. A.J. Brown's out. It's not the same offense, right?

Sequin Barclay's out. It's not the same offense. We've always understood that in pro football. You need your starters. And when you get injury plagued, Buffalo, Detroit's defense, you're like, what the hell's going on? Well, everybody knows you don't have good college. That was never the point. Top 10 teams just had better backups.

I mean, 85 scholarships allows you to have four pro offensive tackles if you're Ohio State. Now they have two. One gets hurt. You move a guard and left tackle. They're all lines stinks. It's Iowa at best. So you're you're totally right. That's an on the field problem. But culturally for fandom, the beauty of college football, it's always been Michigan, Ohio State, rivalry weekend, you know, Alabama, Tennessee or Alabama, You know, these games, they had so much meaning because there was a lot on the line. You couldn't lose that game. I think what Ohio State is struggling with and what a lot of schools will struggle with in the future is,

you focus so much on that one rivalry game and that's all you care about because college football has always been so provincial. Now it's a national game. The SEC is spread out all over. The Big Ten is literally nationwide. These are the only two conferences that really kind of matter. And so the provincial local rivalries that college fan bases have built their mindset on,

have built their self-worth on, have built their fandom on, they need to move on from those really meeting anything because they kind of don't. If Ohio State loses to Michigan for the next 10 years, but they win the national title in five of those years, is that going to be better or worse as a fan? Like, they need to come to grips with a new reality of what these rivalry games mean

in terms of the broader picture because they used to mean everything. It wasn't just about beating Michigan. It was about beating Michigan and what it meant for winning the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl or what it meant for winning the Big Ten and then being in the college football playoff

or winning the BCS and getting a better rating. Those things don't. matter anymore. So the rivalries and the expectations for what these rivalries mean need to be adjusted. I also think it's just going to diminish the value of those games for fans. My kid, he's going to be in college next year. He's gotten into Indiana. He got into Penn State. Wherever he decides to go, are the rivalries for those schools going to mean as much to him 20 years from now as they do to me and my friends who also went to Indiana? Probably not. Do you have an NFL bet this weekend that you would label your favorite?

Well, look, I middled Kansas City. So I bet Kansas City plus two and a half on Sunday night. And then... Minus two and a half, you mean? No, it was plus two and a half. Like, on Monday morning, I'm sorry. When the news about what was happening when Holmes was still unclear, the chiefs were two and a half point underdogs.

So I bet him two and a half. And then when it became clear that he was going to be playing, this was yesterday afternoon, the game got up to three and a half. I bet the Texans at plus three and a half. So the majority of my money is trying to get that middle, right? But I also bet the Jets, three and a half. That's one that I like. I really like the Steelers at six and a half.

So if I'll put in my five favorite picks, the Steelers will be in there. The Jets will definitely be in there. Dallas, I bet it four and a half. I like Dallas a lot against Tampa, I think. There's a lot of inflation this week. And I think that's one of the bigger games where Dallas has been playing better. Like the last three weeks, the last four weeks, that Cincinnati game kind of looks like a fluke, right?

They lost that game. They've won the three other games. Michael Parsons has seven and a half sacks since he's back. Duran Bland is back in the secondary. That defense is getting a lot of. better. Cooper Rush at home, controlled environment. Tampa Bay just put up 40 on the chargers. That

inflated that line a little bit. So, Dallas is another one that I'm unpaying attention to. Chad Millman, Sharper Square. I love it, buddy. Great to chat with you, buddy. The volume. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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