The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Colin’s Week 2 NFL Reaction

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

Colin gives his instant reaction to the afternoon slate of Week 2 NFL games, including the similarity between Kyler Murray and Aaron Rodgers, if the Niners should move off Trey Lance following his season ending ankle injury against the Seahawks, if the Bengals Super Bowl hangover is real, if Denver should stop letting Russ cook, and the real reason Tom Brady came back to the Bucs Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #Herd #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Aaron Rogers the last two years. It makes everybody uncomfortable that Kyler Murray had a rocky, turbulent, noisy offseason. That's what Aaron has had the last two, three years. That he negotiated in public and his team gets frustrated with him. That's Aaron Rogers, the last two to three off seasons. He was terrible in week one and seemed disengaged. that was Aaron Rogers in the first game the last two seasons. But in the end, I've compared Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinal quarterback to Rogers

because not every personality is the same. But they are both so uniquely gifted. Kyler as a runner and thrower, Aaron as a thrower, you put up with some of their BS. There's nobody else like them on the planet. But Kyler looks to me like a more nimble Russell Wilson in his first three or four years in the league, right? Except he's more clever in the pocket running around and throws the same level as a former baseball player, the same level of ball. So Kyler's one in one. And Kyler is the reason they won that game.

Period. End of story. You know, with Aaron, we've often questioned is his coach elite. aren't we questioning the same with Cliff Kingsbury? So I think that you have a lot in common. Now, Aaron has a Super Bowl and more success. But, you know, go back to Aaron's early career. Go back to Keiter's early career.

We see all sorts of talent. Already, you know, Kyler's gotten his team into the playoffs and a much tougher division than Aaron early in his career. But if we're going to accept Aaron Rogers and the drama and the week one snafews and struggles, why can't we accept it with Kyler Murray? They're both all otherworldly talent. All right, let's talk Niners. So when you're a fan, and the 49ers favorites that they against Seattle and they win, but when you're a fan, you want to win games. You don't really care about, you know, draft picks and prospects and winning games.

down the road. You want to win Sunday. So Jimmy Garoppolo today is better than Tray Lance. And Kyle Shanahan knows it. John Lynch knows it. You as a Niner fan knows it. The teammates know it. But you kind of buy in because of the upside of Tray Lance, right? We're going to get there. Can he get better fast? Well, the reason Garoppolo is so perfectly built for this team is he's a very accurate thrower, especially on play action. And when the Niners are running the football, their play action game is really stout. And Garopolo is an very accurate distributor of the football. And he gets to do his guys.

And then they do the yards after catch. So Jimmy's really what the Niners need. It's why, by the way, Kyle Shanahan, according to reports and rumors, wanted Mack Jones out of college. He just wanted somebody to deliver the football to his playmakers. But they have Trey Lance. But here's the issue now that he is out for the year with an ankle injury. What was Trey Lans?

Lance, what were the two issues? Accuracy. And because of inactivity. He didn't play much in college. There's the COVID. He sits behind Jimmy Garapolo. And he only thrown like, you know, coming into this game, like 99 passes as a pro. So now he's going to be out another year not playing. So now you're kind of doubling down on the biggest concern. And with a broken ankle, he can't drive the football for the next six months. So you're taking. a guy that's raw that hasn't played much, struggles with accuracy and saying, you're not going to be able to throw for six months. And next year's a great, great draft for college quarterbacks.

To the Niners with a second or a third round pick, roll the dice on somebody else. Because, I mean, I look at this and I say, let's totally be honest here. Garoppolo is better now. Garopolo fits the team now. The team's going to win now. Lance is going to continue not playing. It's not like he's going to pop back next season and suddenly will have solved his issues.

He will be coming off a long stretch of inactivity. So if you're the Niners now, as a fan, you feel bad for Trey Lance, but your team's better today. I mean, the Niners today with Jimmy Garoppolo to me, I feel confident saying, oh, yeah, that's a team that can get to the NFC championship. None of us were saying that when the day started.

All right, let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals and the Cowboys. No, Cooper Rush is not as good as Dak, but he's won his last couple of starts. And for years and years, I've talked about this, if you go to a backup quarterback and he has two starts, can he win one? If you have four starts, can he win two? Cooper Rush can win about half your starts. But I think the bigger story, because I think Dallas has a ceiling, is the Super Bowl hangover for the Bengals. It's real. And a lot of it stems from the offensive line.

They spent some money on the interior of their offensive line. And it hasn't helped much. Joe Burroughs not only getting a lot of pressure and hurried. He's getting hit hard often. First half, you're sitting there thinking, this is a guy that, you know, last year was coming off. severe ACL MCL issues. Joe Burrow just gets hit too much. And it's not a Burrow issue. I don't think it's a Zach Taylor issue. It's they spent money on the offensive line. Offensive lines are not wearing pads during OTAs like years ago because of the CBA.

Offensive lines aren't playing many snaps in the preseason like they used to. And Joe Burrow didn't play in the preseason because of a surgery. So when I watch it, the Bengals, I see the talent, but it's this convergence of Brough surgery, new offensive linemen, not playing together much in real games in the preseason because now starters and highly paid starters don't play in the preseason. And they open up with a relentless pass rush against Pittsburgh in division.

That's tough. And then Dallas, I thought Dallas's defensive front, Micah Parsons, just gave the Bengals trouble. So I think Cincinnati is going to be fine. You know, Cleveland's nothing special. Pittsburgh lost today. Baltimore's good. But, you know, we watch them against Miami.

But I think it's a convergence of things for the Bengals. And, you know, I think their issues are solvable. Their issues are time issues. Playing together issues. Reps issues. Because the personnel for Cincinnati, borough, Chase, the receiving corps, that's not an issue. Okay, I want to talk about Denver, let Russ cook. So far, this restaurant should be closed.

So when Russell Wilson came into the league, he ran around a lot. It was very much Kyler Murray. I don't think he's quite as twitchy or as athletic as Kyler Murray, but it looked like a little bigger version of Kyler Murray, right? Dominating run, game, very good defense, and he was a playmaker. And, you know, then two Super Bowls, lose the second, and then the defense erodes, and there's a cry in Seattle for Let Russ Cook. But as we have found out now, from these are well-documented stories, the Seahawks wanted to draft Patrick Mahomes, wanted to draft Josh Allen, and offered four years ago in 2018 the Cleveland Browns Russell Wilson for the number one pick. So John Snyder and Pete Carroll were never in love with him.

So now he goes to Denver to prove it's Pete's problem. Well, generally speaking, Pete's not perfect either as Russell Wilson. It's not one person's fault. I mean, let's be honest. Russell benefited greatly from Pete Carroll, Marshaun Lynch, and that defense initially as he learned how to play in the NFL. And Pete Carroll had been fired twice in the league and was struggling at 7 and 9, 7 and 9 in Seattle pre-R Russell Wilson. so they both were beneficiaries of each other.

But the one thing about Russell Wilson, and I've noticed this with Jalen Hertz, quarterbacks that run around, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Jalen Hertz, they put on weight in the off season. They'll put on 10, 15 pounds. Russell's gotten thicker and heavier. He's not as nimble a runner. And so in the red zone, that's where Denver's struggling. It's not like they're not getting yards.

They're struggling to capitalize in the red zone. And Russell Wilson doesn't run as much. much. I mean, you watch Kyler Murray in the red zone today, right? It was a magic trick. I mean, it was like an optical illusion. That was Russell Wilson early in his career, is that Russell could buy all that time to make those throws. He doesn't do that as much, and he's not nearly as good at it. He's put on weight. He is heavier. He is slower. And so when you take out that component of Russell Wilson's game, nobody thinks he's Patrick Mahomes or in the pocket or Tom Brady in the pocket or Aaron Rogers in the

the pocket. We've never thought that about Russ. It was kind of a 60-40 thrower and runner. But when it's like 90-10 thrower runner, he's not the same quarterback. He's good. He's not special. And so, I mean, with Kyler today, take out the running. They lose the football game. Take out the running for Kyler Murray. And it's just throwing. You have to package that deal. Russell's not running. He's put on weight. And I'm going to say this in defensive, Russ. Do we know if Nathaniel Hackett can coach? So it was an absolute tire fire in week one in Seattle. A complete fail, a mismanagement of timeouts on the clock. Anybody watch the game today?

Fourth and 15, no partner turner on the field? 75% of coordinators get fired. Many fail quickly. There is no proof. Nathaniel Hackett is nothing more because, I mean, let's be honest in Green Bay. LaFleur is a lot of. offensive guy. He called the plays. And Aaron Rogers is a veteran he's helping and calling plays. Do we know how much Nathaniel Hackett did in Green Bay? I mean, seriously, what do we know?

It's like Dan Henning comes from Georgia, the Georgia Bulldogs, and goes to Oregon. Well, Kirby Smart's a defensive head coach that calls the plays. How much did Dan Henning coach in Georgia? That's the danger in taking an offensive coach from Green Bay. LaFleur and Aaron Rogers are running it. I'm not saying he's a water boy, but what do we know he did? I think to some degree it hurts, be honest, I think it hurts Eric Biena me in Kansas City. The great play designer is Andy Reid. Andy's on the headset. Mahomes is a great ad libber.

You know, everybody marginalizes these offensive coordinators when Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Sean McVeigh's a head coach. I think it's, I think we kind of look at the coordinators and go, how much are they really doing? How much did Nathaniel Hackett do? It's not like he's a nice guy. He's going to tell her and Rogers what to do. So I watch him in Denver and I think,

I mean, I like they hired an offensive coach, but what if he's completely over his skis? That's about 70% of the guys that get these jobs from being a coordinator. Right now, Brian Daible looks like he's got a really nice control, a firm control of the Giants. Nathaniel Hackett looks a little lost in crucial situations. So again, I think some of it will work itself out. But if you take away Russell Wilson's ability to move, and he's just thicker and heavier and not as twitchy now, it's not the same quarterback.

And it kills me to say it because you know I love Russell Wilson. But you take out that running in the red zone, that's where Denver's struggling. They're getting yards. They can't score in the red zone. Put on your favorite game day gear because college footballs here in Fandul wants you to get in on the action. Right now, new customers can get no sweat first bet up to $1,000, that's $1,000 back in free bets if your first bet doesn't win.

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Bunchin was on her phone walking by herself in Central Park crying on the phone with her husband. Brady looks like he's lost 25 pounds in the last two week he's gone. So he's not living with Giselle. He's going through some turmoil at home. You know, it's messing with his head. He missed 11 days in camp. The offense is a mess. The O lines banged up. The wide receivers are missing practice. But I've said this. One of the reasons Brady keeps coming back.

Look at that division. Atlanta, Carolina. I mean, New Orleans. You watch James Winston. I mean, don't kid yourself. Sean Peyton's smart. Why do you think he retired? You looked around at Tom Brady.

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