The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Cowboys Over Giants MNF Instant Reaction with Matt Mosley
Episode Date: September 27, 2022Longtime Cowboys columnist - and host of The Doomsday Podcast - Matt Mosley joins Colin to react to the Cowboys moving to 2-1 after a huge road win over the Giants in NYC, if there’s a Dak/Cooper Ru...sh QB controversy brewing, and how Zeke has become a leader with a reduced role. Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #Herd #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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the voice of the Dallas Cowboys, Matt Mosley, part of the volume. Nice screen there. You look
very official. So listen, you go on the road, you have a backup. You're undisciplined as heck.
CD Lamb drops a near touchdown early. And you, you're a little.
a win and it kind of feels like you're the superior team. That's not a bad night, right?
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's an okay night. And I think anytime Cooper Rush gets you a win,
everybody from the Cowboys is very excited. They did not expect this at all. They were ready
to go on a losing streak and lose every game that DAC was out. And so everything that's
happening right now, Jerry sort of tried to predict this. And he said some very, very strange things
at the beginning of this week. But in some weird way, Cooper Rush has settled everything down.
And the Cowboys winning with this quarterback is sort of a galvanizing effect on the franchise,
as crazy as that seems. Now, giants seem.
kind of horrible. And the Cowboys don't seem that much better. But still, to be able to overcome
everything that happened to them, including C.D. Lamb, just, you know, flatlining in the first
half and all of that, I think the Cowboys feel really good about this win. Yeah, listen, I always felt
I was talking to Sean Payton today. If a backup, if he misses, your starter misses four games,
if you can win two, and then they find film on him, it's like kind of.
Kyle Allen can fool you for a few games.
Then you get film.
You know his limitations.
But Cooper Rush, I think, is one of three straight Cowboy starts.
I mean, he's not DAC, although I would say the gap between the two.
It's not as large as the DAC fans want you to believe.
Dak's better.
He's a better athlete.
He's stronger.
I will, and I will say this, is that you can't, listen,
Brian Daibol has limitations, and those are called Daniel Jones.
I mean, this is the last year, clearly.
But I don't know.
As I watched, I thought it was a really hostile crowd.
I don't think the New York Giants are without talent.
I think they have the right coach.
I think you get on that flight.
You go home and you feel like we're not as dynamic offensively as Philadelphia.
But geez, Matt, you look around the NFC right now.
Who's great?
Green Bay can only win one way.
Tampa's falling apart.
I mean, the Rams, trust me on the Rams.
It's Bondo and Band-Aids.
It is not a good team.
San Francisco's got limitations.
I mean, I would think the flight home tonight's a pretty positive one.
I think so.
And you're a man, sort of the master of the schedule.
And you know the Rams are coming up to the Cowboys here pretty quickly.
And Cowboys have a chance to get on a little bit of a role here.
And then the Eagles right after that.
And so everything's right out there.
in front of them. And I'm telling you, they didn't expect Cooper Rush to do this at all.
I was with Jerry last week. And I was right up, you know, next to him. In fact, you saw me right
behind him in one of those photos. And it was just, you could tell he was shocked how Cooper Rush
played. I've seen Jerry. The angriest he ever was at Jason Garrett was when Jason Garrett sold him a
bill of goods on a backup quarterback. And they had Brad Johnson one of those years. And Brad Johnson
was to check down Charlie by that point.
And Jason had become friends with Brad, and he said, Brad can do this.
And when Romo was out, Brad Johnson filled in, he went one and two, and they were horrific.
And so the fact that they are functional.
And also the fact that they let him down so many times, that CD dropped that big one.
And there were other plays and holding penalties and everything they had to overcome.
And he still kind of kept chipping away.
And when they fall down 13.6, and they answer.
and they come right back down the field and then CD to his credit.
I mean, he is not.
By the way, I had Drew on my radio show, Drew Pearson.
And he was like, this is not, this is not.
He's not honoring the number 88.
The 88s were upset with him early on in this season.
And tonight, after a really bad drop, kind of an embarrassing drop.
And then, oh, by the way, the rookie had a bad drop.
Then he makes on that one, that all you need against the Giants is like one great drive.
And in a sense, he took over on that drive and he ends it.
And it was just like they needed somebody to step up.
And so they have him and they have Tony Pollard.
And then they ran behind an aging left guard tonight.
We think about that.
On the third drive of the game, they put in a 41 year old guy who doesn't play guard.
And they said, go play left guard for us.
Just see how you do.
We'll just see how you do.
And he blows open a hole and Pollard goes for 46 yards.
So this thing is, you were talking about Band-Aids and everything where the Rams are doing, that's what the Cowboys are doing.
But it's a win.
Yeah.
It's a win.
And in the NFC right now, that's good enough.
Well, yeah, in the NFC, everything's kind of band-aids.
I mean, Garoppolo, for the first time in nine months, got every throw at practice this week.
He admitted after the game, like, I'm not in shape.
Tampa's just basically going to the local hospital.
I mean, nobody is healthy.
And by the way, the Rams, that's a very winnable game for the Cowboys.
So Van Jefferson's in the IR.
Alan Robinson looks washed.
OBJ is gone.
Cam Acres is in the doghouse because he fumbles near the go line.
They're missing their center and their right guards a backup.
And Andrew Whitworth left so they don't get great protection.
And Matt Stafford does a lot of picks.
So when you look at the schedule coming up, it's a lot of win.
stuff. I mean, I don't love the Cowboys. The way I look at Dallas is, I know the undoing is obvious.
It'll be penalties. It'll be situational football and penalties that will end the season.
It's not necessarily talent. Like, they're not as talented as the Niners. That is indisputable.
After that, if everybody's healthy, they got five or six elite players. They're not the
Niners. Other than that, maybe Philadelphia, I'm underserving here, but I just
look at this team and I think every time I watch them, they're painfully undisciplined.
I think that's fair. I think you also had to remember Michael Gallup is returning next week.
I mean, I think that really helps the offense. The discipline stuff is not going to go away.
I mean, that's sort of sadly what Mike McCarthy brings to the table.
But now, and again, some of that, we can't just blame on him on the defensive side of the ball.
We go crazy about Dan Quinn and there were calls on the defensive side of the ball, whether it be holding, whether it was after the whistle stuff that was going on, even though some of that stuff was ridiculous.
But the best news for the Cowboys is Michael Parsons was not himself.
He showed up at the game with a bunch of pediolite, which we've all, you know, had to use at some point.
He, in his case, he needed it for some illness.
And DeMarcus Lawrence, we were kind of like, he played great.
What's DeMarcus done recently?
three sacks,
Dorrance Armstrong,
everybody else lifted this player up,
this great NFL player
who was not himself tonight,
and how many Daniel Jones,
how many pressures they end up with,
24, 24 pressures?
It was embarrassing.
In the 20s, yeah.
Yeah.
No, I mean, again,
Micah was sick.
Backup,
lots of penalties,
a CD-LAM drop.
And I really,
felt in the last 10 minutes to the game, Dallas was the better team.
If you're the New York Giants, because I really like Brian Daibold, they got to draft a
quarterback, clearly. Outside of left tackle, their offensive line is still a massive problem.
Kenny Goladay is stealing a paycheck, not to have any sympathy for the giant.
I thought the crowd was also really loud tonight. I thought it was a really hostile environment.
But when you look at the Giants, and I do think sometimes, I think, you know, in college,
if you get the right coach in the transfer portal, you can get good really fast.
In the NFL, there are limitations because it's such a quarterback lead.
Here's the good news for the Cowboys.
There's two quarterbacks in this division, Jalen Hertz and Dak, that are franchise quarterbacks.
Wentz, I think, is washed and Daniel Jones is done.
So, I mean, like, the horizon, I think Dallas is too insular, but I think, I really think with Gallup coming back,
I think people in Dallas, Dallas Cowboy fans,
there's a little playoff vibe to them.
They may be falling apart, so is everybody else in the NFC.
Well, always the good news for any NFL team is when the commanders are coming to town.
And that's happening next week and you go to three and one.
And everything we know about the NFL, we're having to kind of rethink.
I mean, when you see the dolphins jump out to a three and old start,
you got to have to kind of think, okay, these are different.
times. We've been trained to think of teams like the Patriots over the years. They're not the same.
And they're not going to be anywhere close to the playoffs for another season. The Cowboys in the
NFC East can always be hanging around. I'm not, you know, Jason Garrett came on the other night and
said he thinks the Eagles are the best team in football. I like Jalen Hertz,
watched him play for a long time, both in Oklahoma and Alabama. And I think he is a fun player because he can do so
things on the move. Do I think over the course of a season, he can keep this up? I do not.
I really don't. They have really good weapons and they have really good defenders. I'm just saying
I base it more on his whole body of work. I mean, there's a reason he transferred. There's a reason,
you know, everybody was winning the Heisman there. He was okay. He was pretty good at Oklahoma.
He wasn't great. And I have a really hard time thinking he's just going to do this the rest of the
season. So the Cowboys right now are just kind of holding the fort with Cooper Rush. And I think,
I think when you do something like that, it can have an impact on the whole team. And the thing
of Cooper Rush won't do is like make these backbreaking mistakes. You know, like Daniel Jones,
even how many years is this? Six or seven years. You know at some point he's going to, like with
a minute 50. If Aaron Rogers has the ball or Brady or really any, you know,
all these young quarterbacks, you're like, they got a chance.
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Well, Daniel Jones is the classic.
If the pocket is clean and he has time to set up and throw, he's generally okay.
But that's the description of a backup.
The description of a starter is he can overcome a muddy pocket.
If the play breaks down, he's special.
You know, here's the other thing, what's happening in the league.
And, man, I talk about it all the time.
So think about the offenses that are struggling.
Chicago, defensive head coach.
New England, defensive head coach.
Chargers, defensive head coach.
Seahawks, defensive head coach.
Steelers, defensive head coach.
Dallas, for all we, the misgivings about Mike McCarthy,
we would both admit he does create decent passing games.
Now, he didn't create run games in Green Bay,
and that was part of his undoing.
and I don't think it's a strength.
But I will say is that Dack likes him.
He's an offensive side of the ball guy.
You start looking around this league right now at the teams that can't move the chains.
Look what Doug Peterson, offensive guy is in Jacksonville, overnight.
So we can lament McCarthy.
He's in the right side of the ball.
Look at Ron Rivera with Wince.
Useless.
Doesn't have the sensibility.
Completely useless offense.
So I don't know.
There's a ceiling with McCarthy, but I would rather take McCarthy than Matt Eberflus, who everybody tells me they love, but they're completing seven passes a week.
Yeah.
And if you team it with potentially one of the better pass rushes in the NFL, you always have something because you're putting the quarterback just constantly in trouble.
And again, the big thing tonight was without their greatest player, they were still creating so much chaos in the path rise.
Right.
Now, McCarthy did a nice thing this week.
McCarthy had to take a Jerry Jones bomb that he left out there.
And he was able to put out the fire.
And that's not always an easy thing for head coaches because you don't want to show up Jerry.
but Jerry said some silly things about the quarterback.
And, oh, Cooper Rush, wouldn't we like to be here down the road having a dilemma?
Wouldn't you like to have a dilemma whether, now listen, when you're paying a guy 40 million,
Jerry knows this.
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And the players just all had a good laugh about it.
And Zeke, for all his deficiencies as a player,
Zeeq has a tremendous understanding of the offense.
And Zeeq has become a great leader.
Here's how good of a leader, Zique is.
He knows he's not truly the lead back anymore.
Like he's actually sort of accepted that.
And I never thought in a million years we'd say that.
Tonight at some point on the broadcast, they said,
Zeke has 12 carries, Pollard has 10 carries.
That used to be like, oh my gosh, unbelievable.
They have the same amount of carries.
nobody cares anymore because Pollard is a much, much more explosive back.
And the good news is Zeke sort of knows his future is pretty much in doubt with the Cowboys.
And he's okay.
He's okay.
Like he's a huge leader for this team.
And this is very rare for an offensive player who's paid a lot of money.
But he doesn't seem to care right now that he's been usurped a little bit by Pollard and what they're trying to do.
to move the ball.
And so he's,
he's a player they use in spots.
But he's not a lead back anymore.
All right.
Finally,
one big 12 question.
Texas lost,
Oklahoma lost.
As a Baylor guy,
it tickles you.
But if I said to you,
Brent Venables or Sark,
one of the two eventually will be fired in the next three years.
Which one would you guess?
Sark.
Yeah.
Because Oklahoma, he is one of theirs.
Now, I know he played at K-K State, but he truly is one of theirs.
Sark is a fish out of water.
Sark was brought in as like a trick.
Like, oh, this guy was at Alabama.
Maybe we can bring in Alabama.
And by the way, that first game against Alabama, everybody's like, oh, my gosh,
Sark looks great.
Sark goes out to Tech.
He's out on the South Plains of Lubbock,
and he's got a 31-17 lead, and they lose the game.
Sark has never, he's been good at, you know, at play calling at Alabama.
As a head coach, he's never done anything.
He's never distinguished himself in any possible way.
Same thing with Venables.
The fan bases are just completely different.
The power structures are completely different in that Oklahoma will do everything in the world to prove that they made the right hire.
even if that means living with some steps in the wrong direction.
Texas always feels like it can pay itself out of a bad situation.
And so this stuff won't work.
Like, you know, people in Texas think differently.
They're already, if Jimbo had a gun in the tank and lost that game to Arkansas,
they're already figuring out, how can we pay the $50 million fee?
How can we come up with that?
And they would have gotten it done if they needed to.
Same thing at Texas.
While they haven't even been as good as A&M lately, they'll turn on Sark in a heartbeat.
Whereas Oklahoma, we used the word insular earlier, that's a big thing with Oklahoma.
He's one of theirs.
Sark is not a UT guy.
He has no real Texas connections and there will be no Circle the Wagon's moments with Sark.
They will turn on him in a hurry.
Those boosters are not loyal.
I mean, you know, if it goes the wrong way, they'll turn on you in a heartbeat.
So the people at Oklahoma are much more loyal to Venables than they will be to Sark to Sark if this thing goes the wrong way.
All right. Matt Mosley, Cowboy Update at the volume.
He's a member.
We love having him.
And we don't give that backdrop to any old guy on the street.
That's very professional.
It's a very professional look.
Yeah.
Baylor over Oklahoma State, 16 versus.
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USC's not losing for the next decade
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oh your emotions were all over the place during that game
by the way i was kind of like watching the tweets it's like okay
yes yeah but in the end i think you were you were with lincoln
i was i'm with him i'm pro lincoln
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Yeah, all my best.
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