The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Eli Manning on Super Bowl Memories + Best SB Bets with Millman, Fake Q's on Harden/Simmons Trade, Brady Rumors
Episode Date: February 11, 2022Colin does Fake Questions, Real Answers (3:00) on long disgruntled Ben Simmons being shipped out of Philly for James Harden, what the trade means for KD, if Aaron Rodgers anti-vaxx stance should affec...t his MVP chances, why Caleb Williams made the right move ditching Oklahoma for USC, and if there’s any legs to the rumor that Tom Brady could make an NFL return. Then, 2-time Super Bowl winning QB Eli Manning discusses if he was nervous before his Super Bowls (12:00), if his famous Super Bowl 46 dime to Mario Manningham is the best throw of his career (13:00), what he learned from his first Super Bowl that helped him prepare for his second (14:00), what he sees in Joe Burrow that has made him so good so early in his career (20:00), why OBJ has had such a resurgence with the Rams (22:00), how Matt Stafford's trade to the Rams has changed his career arc (24:00), where the Manning brothers fine tuned their sense of humor (26:00). Then, The Action Network's Chad Millman tells Colin if his Super Bowl prop bets are sharp or square. (29:00).Make sure to Subscribe and follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Eli Manning, Chad Millman.
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Dear Colin, what do you think of James Hardin forcing his
way to another team. Well, James Hardin isn't the best teammates, but the NBA is overwhelmingly a
talent league. And Hardin is one of, I don't know, seven or eight players in the league that can
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Dear Colin, what do you make of transfer quarterback Caleb Williams of USC going
on Good Morning America.
Well, that's the second biggest story of the week for Caleb Williams.
The biggest story is his N-I-L deal, name image-likeness deal with the Trojans is $2.5 million a
year with Beats and Dr. Dre.
If he was in Norman, Oklahoma, he wouldn't have Dr. Dre.
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What do you make of it?
First of all, Tom, and this is sort of on-brand, makes very few definitive opinions, either with himself, his family, TB12.
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Yes, I think Tom Brady, after about five or six weeks, is going to realize, man, I kind of miss being around the fellas.
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you weren't affected by things the rest of the family was.
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I think you made your two best throws in your career.
Certainly the Mario Manningham one qualifies.
But with that said, that's in game.
Did you get a little nervous or anxious coming out for the anthem and that sort of stuff pregame?
I mean, I think there's definitely, you get the butter.
and you get a little exciting.
I think that's a, you know, I was always kind of
learned that that's a good thing.
When you're nervous about something, that means you care about it.
Like you want to do well.
It means you're prepared.
You've given a lot of effort to it.
You've worked hard and you want to go and win, and it means something to you.
So to have the butterflies, I'm here to tell the teammates that
that's normal. That's a good thing.
It means you care and then you want to go out there and play well.
So embrace it and, you know, in those situations.
situations. So like once you're playing the game, they usually, those go away. But it's, yeah,
like you said, it's the coin toss. It's the pregame where you have this kind of nervous excitement.
I watched your Mario Manningham throw this morning because I knew I was going to talk to you.
It's just a ridiculous throw. I mean, I could argue, Eli, David Tyree, there's a, there's a bit of
luck on certain catches. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. But Manningham is a freaking dime. Did you look at it
afterwards and think, is that the best throw I've ever made?
It was tight. It was a little tight. It was a little risky. And I think that's kind of,
you know, what makes it unique. It's, hey, it's, you know, when you get into a Super Bowl,
and it's the most important throw of your life and the most important drive that you can have,
and you can step up and make a throw that's like, it's covered two, a whole throw to a guy
where if you throw it a yard inside,
it's probably getting intercepted by a safety,
but you put in a spot where,
hey, your receiver can catch it or no one else,
and you trust your guy that they're gonna make a play.
And really what Mario does, I mean, the fact that,
you know, it's over the outside shoulder.
He can't see the ball hit his hands
because the outside shoulder, they say,
I gotta keep my two feet in bounds
and take a hit from a safety
and to hold onto it was remarkable.
So, you know, it just changed that whole drive.
We're backed up at our own
10 and now we're at the 50-yard line.
Now we're kind of in control of the game.
We got time.
We can run the ball.
We got plenty of time to make that drive and to score and not give Tom Brady
too much time on the clock.
You had two Super Bowls, Ram's second Super Bowl for McVeigh.
Anything in the second Super Bowl you took from the first, it could have been in prep,
pre-game halftime that you took and it helped you in the second one.
You know, I think, yeah, you just learned how to kind of manage that week.
And, you know, when you go to the Super Bowl, the last 20 weeks, you've been doing the same thing every single day.
You know, your Wednesdays are the same.
You're at home.
You know, get a massage on a certain day.
You may go to dinner with your wife or you go out to dinner with your teammates one day.
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You know, I think he's, he, I was impressed with Joe last year,
just having, you know, watching him play.
He was a rookie.
You know, there's a couple games where he's throwing it 30, 40, 50 times a game.
He's got a bad offensive line last year.
But he was still, you know, a lot of completions.
He was scrambling at times.
He was buying time.
He wasn't throwing a lot of interceptions.
You know, he wasn't making a lot of.
of mistakes and forcing things. And so I thought he played great last year and this year,
kind of the same thing, especially throughout the playoffs, two-minute drives, you know,
playing tough, getting sacked nine times in one game, but just hanging in there,
not causing you to force a throw or throw it too early. And so he just kind of has that
it factor that he steps up and makes, you know, makes critical plays and great plays at the right
time. I mean, you were a multiple-year starter at Ole Miss. He was a two-year start. He was a two-year
starter at LSU, by your second year in the league, he's had a couple of scrappy games, Jets, Bears,
but were there times, I mean, would you have been ready? Because you were often a better
quarterback in the two-minute drill playoffs than on the road. It's really remarkable about your career.
But in year two, can you even imagine leading a team on the road playoff games? Or were you still
in that sort of, man, I'm a little over my skis on some of these games? You know, I think,
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playing against better teams and everybody's up to the challenge. And so, you know, my first one,
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game. You know, Peyton was in the playoffs a number of times. Matthew Stafford, like a lot of good
quarterbacks, that first playoff experience, they don't do great. You know, and here's Joe Burrow
in his second year, winning three playoff games on the road. And I think the fact that, you know,
he has kind of gone through a playoff scenario in college and what he did at LSU. I think that
does help. I mean, you had to go and beat some teams. You had to play in an SEC championship. You had to
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I think gives you a little bit more experience to handle this.
It makes him more prepared.
You know, OBJ, it's pretty impressive mid-season, go to another team, completely different offense, new quarterback.
Are you kind of surprised how quickly and seamlessly it worked?
You know, I think, I mean, obviously, O'Dell is extremely talented.
He works hard.
He's fast.
He catches the ball well.
And I think they just are using him so well.
They've been smart since the get-go of not overloading him.
I think the fact that you have Cooper Cup and he's going to be your workhorse.
And we're going to move him all around.
He's going to be in the backfield.
He's going to be in the slot.
He's going to be out wide where with O'Dell are you kind of like, hey, you're going to be out wide.
You're going to, you know, went on slant routes.
You know, went on glance routes.
You know, went on comebacks and you're going to run by people and run a post and an end-breaking route.
Just, you know, routes that you've run a million times.
where to go. We're not going to move you around too much. And so you can just go play fast.
And when you get one-on-one, go beat the corner. And he can do that. That's what he can do.
And so I think they're using him well. And you can see it, you know, the timing's getting better
with Stafford and him on the same page. You know, the ball's coming out, anticipating, you know,
Stafford's anticipating a little bit more on when he can make those throws and let him go, you know, go get it.
So I've been impressed and obviously, you know, he's playing well, happy for him to be in the Super Bowl.
Listen, you were lucky that you got Tom Coughlin at the beginning of your career.
You really, one of the smartest guys, you know, a lot of stability in the organization, which the Giants have not had in your last couple of years and since you left.
Stafford had stability in high school, Georgia, and the Rams.
But he went 13 years.
I mean, Eli, a lot of coaches, a lot of coordinators.
a lot of different offensive lines.
I mean, you've had a couple of years when there was instability,
when you got a new coach.
How hard is that?
Yeah.
I mean, it can be tough.
And obviously what he's had to endure and the fact that he's, you know,
you know, stayed with it.
You know, always a great guy, didn't blame anybody,
didn't throw anybody in the bus, just kept working hard.
And then you never know.
All of a sudden, you get a trade and, you know, you're in L.A.
and they basically bring you there saying,
hey, you're here to bring us a championship.
That's why you're here.
A lot of pressure has been put on him.
You never won a playoff game.
And so for him to kind of step into this situation,
I think there was a lot of pressure
that first playoff game, you know,
saying, hey, if I don't win the playoff game,
like this is a bust and, like,
who knows what's going to happen.
So I think, you know,
he's played unbelievable through the playoffs.
So happy, you know,
Matthew alone time,
and so happy that he's in this opportunity,
in a Super Bowl.
in his hometown, you know, in L.A. with the Rams.
So it should be a great atmosphere for him.
You know, Eli, on the Manning cast,
I appreciate your dry sense of humor.
And it's funny because, you know, Pete,
Peyton is more outward and probably, you know,
he, like he loves to cut it up Saturday night live.
You're, but I know Cooper, and Cooper is so damn funny.
I mean, he is lightning quick.
And then here's Eli and people think, oh, Eli's not.
Then I watch you and your sense of humor is boom, boom, boom.
But before I knew you guys, I knew your dad.
And so I watch all of you.
I'm like, where do they all get their sense of humor?
Like your dad's a nice guy.
But was your mom funny?
Where does this all come from?
Seriously.
I think it all actually comes from, you know, Cooper.
I think he was the funny one and always has been.
And so just like dinners with Cooper growing up, you know, we always sat down at the dinner table and he just, he just entertained.
And so my dad laughed at it.
We all like to laugh.
And so you just kind of learn from him and learn to appreciate humor.
You kind of work on your timing.
You know, you understand you like to laugh.
So you surround yourself with other funny people and entertaining people.
And so I think we all just had our different ways of dealing with it.
And you know, Coop is quick with it.
He has good stories.
He can do it all.
So Peyton kind of learned how to tell the good story.
And, you know, hey, I'm going to memorize this story.
I'm going to work on it.
I'm not going to master it.
I'll get better.
And mine was just like, they were talking the whole time.
So if I said something, like, it had to be good.
It had to count.
So I'm going to say something quick.
I'm going to hit to my point.
And I'm going to get out.
You know, that's kind of the way it worked.
That was just the dynamic of the family
and kind of how we all, I think.
got our own little, our own sense of humor.
You, you've really elegantly retired.
You seem incredibly happy with your family up.
I think it's New Jersey or New York, but I can see the trees behind you.
Has there ever been a moment that you missed it?
One moment.
Yeah, I mean, there's moments you miss it, but never moments that I regret the decision
to retire when I did.
And so I think it's, you know, you miss the team, you miss the locker room, you miss
plane rides, you know, after a win. You see the team win, you're like, that would be a fun
playing ride. You miss, you know, watching these teams go through the playoffs and, yeah, I mean,
what great experience that was. But it really just brings you back to those memories that you have.
And so it's not a jealous. It's more just, hey, I'm going to call Sean O'Hara. Hey, I'm going to call
Chris Snee today. Hey, I'm going to call Akeem Knicks and Plasko today and just kind of talk about, you know,
talk to some of those teammates and to see what they're up to.
and just reminisce about those good times.
Great seeing you, Eli.
Always a pleasure.
Kick butt.
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Thanks for including me in this, bud.
Yeah, a lot of fun, Colin. You're the best, man.
From Eli Manning to Chad Millman, the chief content officer of the action.
network.
All right, let's start with the simple stuff.
If it was four and a half, five, I probably take the Bengals.
I went and looked at the Bengals and the Rams scores.
18 of the 20 bingo games were close.
They were blown out by Cleveland and lost a lot of jump balls and were kind of
whacked at home with the Chargers.
But overwhelmingly, they played good teams very tight.
Win or lose, Green Bay, Tennessee, San Francisco.
So it tells you that's probably the same.
side to be on, but I can't get past this.
They feel like the bingles feel like a sick seed in March Madness.
They win a couple of buzzer beaters.
There's a clearly momentum, which is a powerful device, but they're going to meet a number
one seed.
It's going to feel like a one or a two.
They're not going to be able to block the Rams front.
And I feel like it's going to get ugly.
And I know it's square.
But sometimes just don't you just like a matchup?
you're totally entitled to like the matchup if that's where your head is at.
It is not an easy game to handicap.
And I will tell you, when the line opened a three and a half and was immediately bet to four by professional betters,
that was showing you that they liked the Rams a little bit.
And the professional betters have liked the Rams all year.
They liked them for Super Bowl futures.
They liked them to win their division.
They liked them to win the conference.
So by them betting at the three and a half, you were basically seeing them backing their opinion that had been established all year long.
So the first half of the week, professional betters were betting on the Rams.
But then the number got to four and a half.
And then the professional betters came in on the Bengals and you started to see the money even out a little bit.
So now you're basically getting the better as you see more of the line of demarcation is for lack of a better term.
Four and a half is where they definitively like the Bengals.
Three and a half is where they definitively like the Rams.
And at four, it's a matchup game.
You like the Rams.
I like the Bengals.
It's that opinion.
I think I'd take the under.
I think the game will be quick.
The Bengals are proficient at running.
the Rams aren't necessarily the last two weeks because it's the Niners and Bucks run defense.
They were very proficient running the ball against Arizona.
I think the game shrinks.
I think there's more running than we think.
I think it's a quick game.
I think it's mostly well played.
I don't think there are as many big plays over the top because I think both secondaries are highly capable.
So I would take the under sharper square.
That is totally sharp.
It opened in 49.5.
It got fed down to 48.5.
It's been sitting there, but that is the side that the wise guys are betting.
I do want to go back to some of your calculus on the Bengals,
discounting the close games they've played and saying that it feels like a six-seat in March madness
and that they're not as good as what they're showing on the field.
I would say that would be true if they only did it during the playoffs.
But you said it yourself, 18 of 20 games.
The team keeps games close.
And the problem with betting against the Bengals in a spot like this isn't because you think the Rams are going to win the game.
They are the better team.
It's why they're favored.
They're a better team all year long.
They have the better quarterback by a percentage.
They dominate on the defensive line and the Bengals' offensive line isn't that great.
So what happens is you get the Bengals down big.
And when the game gets closer to the end,
that's when the Bengals consistently find ways to use their explosiveness to get into the end zone.
So I'm not betting because I think the Bengals are the better team.
I'm betting because I think the Bengals are going to be able to find a way to keep this game close,
either through 60 minutes or in the last three minutes.
Let's talk receiving yards.
Odell Beckham over under 62 and a half, Jamar Chase, 78.5, Cooper Cup 105.
that's a big number for Cup.
And he's terrific, but I do like the safety play by the Bengals.
I probably bet the under on Cooper Cup.
That's of the three that looks like the play.
Your thoughts?
So the Cooper Cup specifically, I'm not going to deflect.
I'm going to give you my thoughts.
But the Cooper Cup receiving totals across the board are the biggest liability
the sports books have in this Super Bowl.
It's not a side.
It's not a total.
they have been getting hammered from the second these props open on Cooper Cup overs.
And I'm in that camp.
I didn't bet his over total receiving yards.
I haven't bet his over receptions.
But I did bet Cooper Cup over 28 and a half for longest reception because he's so good at yards after the catch.
And the Bengals defensive seconder, the way they play defense, it allows for him to be in matchups to be in open space.
and find an opportunity to do that.
So I think that the market is getting priced out
for a lot of the numbers you just talked about
for Odell, for Cooper Cup, for Jamar Chase.
What I do like a lot, T. Higgins,
over about 69 and a half receiving yards.
Tyler Boyd, over, I forgot the number of receptions,
but I like him over for receptions.
I do think that you get to the second and third tier
of receivers for the Bengals, and I like that a lot.
because the Rams defensive secondary is very bad covering.
They play a lot of zone and they leave a lot of open space and roll the field,
which is where those two guys eat.
I tend to be an under better, more than an over better,
because I think the public likes overs.
So in rushing yards, I'm going to go away because in passing yards,
Burrow and Stafford, Borough and Stafford, 2.67.5 yards, Stafford,
I'd go under on both.
But I do like the over on.
rushing yards with both mixing at 60 and a half and Cam Acres, especially at 64 and a half,
because I do, I have a feeling of what I'm going to see.
And I think both running backs are going to have really, really strong days.
I also believe there's always a feeling out process in Super Bowls, especially for a young
team like Cincinnati.
And even though they throw the ball downfield, I don't know how many downfield throws with that
Rams defensive front you can make.
I think you're going to have to use that with discretion or joking.
Joe Burrell is going to have a long afternoon.
So I really do believe running backs will, I would go over on those rushing yards.
It's sharp or square?
Totally sharp.
And I think it correlates to a lot of the things that we talked about, especially if you're
a Bengals better, right?
A, the one area where you can definitively say, I think the Bengals have the advantage
from a position grouping point of view, is it running back?
Joe Mixon is just a better running back than anyone else.
Rams have in their backfield right now.
Cammakers may be one day, but not three games back from a blown Achilles.
So you have the advantage there.
If you think this game is going to go under, if you think the pace of play is going to be
quick, if you think that there's not going to be a lot of stoppages, that it's going to be
a low-scoring game that plays into both of these guys going over their rushing yard totals.
If you think the game is likely to be close, which I do with the Bengals, then that plays
into these guys going over their rushing air total.
I can't argue, the market can't argue, the professionals can't argue.
From a professional point of view, Aaron Donald at plus 1,500, I think a lot of times with MVP's, it can be statistical, but we also vote for stories.
You know, some of this stuff is, and I think you're going to listen to announcers that talk a lot about Aaron Donald.
I think he's going to be a big part of the broadcast.
A lot of Rams players are really doing this for Aaron Donald.
Matt Stafford pointed it out.
And I do think there's a romance to the great defensive player who's been here before,
who's been a dominant player who doesn't have one.
Usually that player is an offensive player.
So of the MVP favorites, the Fandulauds, I think Aaron Donald at Plus 1500 is interesting to me.
What say you?
I say that's a little bit square.
and that the odds reflect what bookmakers know the market is thinking that this is an Aaron Donald narrative Super Bowl.
And that he is the guy, look, I'm prone to it too, right?
You and I are old people who have been doing this forever.
We should be jaded.
But I like the idea of Aaron Donald winning the Super Bowl.
I'm partial to the Rams winning, even though I have the Bengals of plus four, because I think I like the narrative when a player who,
who is best in class in his position historically,
I like when they win the title.
I like when they have the satisfaction.
I just root for people to be happy, right?
Just what I do.
I'm for people being happy.
I want you to win too, Colin.
I don't think the odds on Aaron Donalds are very good.
I think, I do think the defense is where the value is for MVP.
Jalen Ramsey, closer to 80 to 100 to 1.
Von Miller further down the list.
Leonard Floyd, think about this, right?
All the attention being paid to Von Miller, to Aaron Donald.
Lerflo is a pretty great defensive end who can get after the quarterback.
So the opportunity to get him when everyone else is paying attention to the other two guys is where I think the value is.
If you had a final score prediction, you like the under, you're kind of telling me it sounds like you'd be 26, 23 Rams kind of where you're at if you think it's close?
I think it's in that range.
I kept thinking 24, 20.
1 Rams like, A, because that gives me a comfortable cushion against the 48 and a half,
and I won't be sweating it at the end of the game.
But I just think that these are two teams who they're going to play close to the vest.
And I expect there to be an opportunity for the Bengals to be in a position to win it late in
the game.
I don't think they will, but I think they're going to have the opportunity.
All right, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer, very low-key effort today by both of us,
because we've talked a lot of these odds, and we're, you know, we're not messing around now.
Let's just this is business.
Colin, we're four days from the game.
We've had two weeks to prepare.
We don't need to dilly dally.
Give the people the information.
Like, let them go make their bets.
These lines might move a little bit based on what we're saying.
They better go get them now because that's where the opportunity is.
We don't need to entertain just to entertain.
Hey, thanks for coming to the volume.
party in West Hollywood.
We didn't even talk about the party.
Oh, it was nice.
It was pretty cool.
Dude.
I know.
I know.
That, listen, as we've discussed, this is like, I'm in LA all week.
This is one of the first times I've been on an extended business trip on a plane, like,
during COVID.
And that was a real to do that party.
It was kind of cool.
A ridiculous house, great scene.
the pool looked fantastic with the volume logo.
Your wife looked beautiful.
We had a great conversation.
The magician who did that car trip for me and you and your wife.
Oh, my God.
That was insane.
Magician.
I don't understand magic.
I don't get it.
Be scared of it.
I don't even want to get it.
I just, I'm going to enjoy it.
As I get older, I could get run over by a UPS truck tomorrow.
Just entertain me.
I'm not going to try to figure it out.
Just make me happy.
Who, uh, I mean,
that party was packed.
There were people I didn't even know they were in LA who I saw at that party last night.
It was great.
And also, it was just fun because there was good business being done at the party.
And like there were three or four people that I saw who I needed to have a conversation with.
And in the pandemic world, that conversation is, hey, it's a text, then it's a follow-up, then it's a calendar, then it's a Zoom.
And literally the conversation could be 30 seconds.
saw them last night.
Hey, I'm thinking about this.
Hey, me too.
All right.
It's done.
You were making business happen last night.
That's right.
I was.
There were bags being exchanged.
Yeah.
Literal.
Metaphorically.
Okay, fine.
Who can you share with me your most interesting conversation with someone last night?
Kay Bon Theibodeau, the defensive end for Oregon.
What was the conversation?
He thinks he's going to the New York Giants.
Interesting.
Are you breaking news right now?
Oh, shit, it's what I do.
I make people money and I'm break stories.
It's what I do.
Now, Thebado is an interesting player.
He's got a really, he would fit in New York.
He's got a big personality.
He went to Oaks Christian out in California.
It's a very kind of a lot of wealth and, you know, famous kids, famous dad's kids.
And he's big.
Like he would go to New York and feel like New York.
I mean, he would be lost in Cincinnati.
He feels like somebody that should play in L.A.
or New York or Chicago.
He really does.
There you go.
There's my story.
That's a good one.
It was a good party.
It was a good hang.
See you, buddy.
See you, man.
Yeah.
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