The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - INSTANT REACTION: Packers Steamroll Saints, The Packers UNIQUE Advantage, College Football Playoff Backlash

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

Colin gives his instant reaction to the Packers blowing out the Saints on Monday Night Football. While he normally waits until AFTER the game to record the pod, Colin only needed until halftime to decide the Packers/Saints game was the least competitive game he’d seen all year (4:00). Instead, he dives deep into the Packers unique situation of not having an owner and why that’s proven to be a huge advantage when it comes to stability and management (7:30). Finally, he addresses the public backlash to all the blowouts early in the College Football Playoff, why the blowouts were entirely predictable, and why blowouts will get worse as they expand the field of teams in the future (13:30). Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #Herd  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But that's the least competitive football game I have watched in the NFL, certainly that I've watched every play of this year. And I'm going to get back to that game in a second. And it has to do with the Packers. But, you know, one of the things I'm proudest of, I do a segment every Monday called Colin Wright and Colin is wrong, and it's one of my higher-rated segments I've ever done every week. And I do think people appreciate just saying, hey, I whiffed on something. And I've said before that I'm willing to change my mind if I get no information.

And I was thinking about watching the Packers tonight about, I'll give you an example of something I radically changed my mind on. So I would say 40 years ago, I liked the Olympics far more. than the World Cup. And the reason was is that 40 and 45 years ago, and I'm, you know, 15 years old, 20 years old, college student, high school student, and as somebody that absolutely loves sports, you didn't get three straight weeks of sports. You didn't have this proliferation of regional networks and local networks. You know, when I was a kid growing up 15 years old, you got an NBC baseball game of the week. You know, I lived in around Seattle. I couldn't get Mariner games except on radio. You couldn't watch Mariner Games.

And I was a kid from divorced. We didn't have the money to go to Mariner Games. It was a two and a half hour drive. I lived on the beach in Westport, Washington. So, you know, like once every five years, I'd go to a Mariner game. So the Olympics, you know, for a sports obsessed 15 and 20 year old was three straight weeks of sports. It didn't matter that I didn't care about the sports. At that point, I'd never skied.

It didn't matter. I'd watch the Winter Olympics. I wasn't in track. I didn't care. I'd watch the Summer Olympics. It didn't matter. I still don't care about Olympic sports, most of them. But it was three straight weeks of sports. And then you have over the course of the last 40, 45 years, this proliferation of cable and, again, all these networks. I can turn on my television any day of the week and get 20 games. I mean, you can fish around on, you know, a Tuesday and get, you know, during the baseball season, I can watch every baseball team. So the Olympics now today don't feel as special to me because I didn't care about the sports in the Olympics then or now. But the fact that you got three straight weeks of sports was really unique.

Now it's not. And so now you could have the Olympics. I'll watch the opening ceremonies, maybe a couple events. I just don't care. But I love the World Cup. Some of that is I worked at two networks with World Cup and soccer analysts and experts. so I'm around more soccer people. And frankly, you know, every four years, you know, it's something new.

It's something fresh. I mean, how many NBA games? How many football games can I watch? The quality of soccer is great. I know more about soccer. It doesn't matter if it was the other place or Fox. I'll watch more soccer. A lot of my adult friends have given up baseball and they're more soccer fans.

On a Saturday morning, they'll watch English Premier League. you know, and I have a lot of friends like that. I've also gone to Europe more in my life. So I'm just more into the world, Captain's soccer. I've totally changed my opinion on that. And this is where I get back to the Packers. I always thought not having an owner was a disadvantage to the Packers, is that having a Stan Cronky who can literally, as he's on the tarmac, true story,

flying out of the country, can tell Sean McVeigh, all right, go for it. Go get Matt Stafford. Like, you know, it's going to be expensive. I'm going to pay for Jared Goff in Detroit and Stafford in L.A. Let's go for it. Big advantage. But I'm watching the Packers tonight and think about this, 10 of 32 teams in the NFL,

31% of the NFL has five wins or fewer with a couple weeks to go. So the Saints have five and they'll lose tonight. Carolina, the Jets, and Chicago have four, four and 11. Vegas, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, and New England are three and 12, and the Giants are two and 13. So that's 10 of 32 teams. That was only five last year. It's doubled.

That is a really, really large bottom and unwatchable part of the NFL. Feels very much like the NBA. It really does. I mean, 30% of the NBA or more is unwatchable. And I think there are two reasons for that. Number one, more and more because of rule changes and culture, quarterback just means more. I mean, there's only one great quarterback in the NFL that's not going to make the playoffs. Joe Burrow, cheapest owner in the league, terrible defense, shaky O line, and he's still

fighting for a playoff spot. They may make it statistically very little chance, but they may make it. He's the only great quarterback that won't make the playoffs. If you have one, you're in. If you have a good rookie quarterback, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix, you're in. Michael Pennix, my guess now, is going to win the remaining games for Atlanta, they'll be in. If you just have a competent rookie quarterback, a Pennix down the stretch, Bo Nix, Jaden Daniels, you're in.

So quarterback's more important than ever. And number two is billionaire owners now, the poorest owners are billionaire, and it wasn't like that 10 years ago. And billionaire owners are less patient. Firing a staff and having to pay $45 million is more of a rounding error. And so you have more chaos among coaching staffs and more chaos in the coaching community. So between it's more quarterback-centric and more impulsive owners, you just have more hot messes in the NFL. And I'm watching tonight.

I mean, I'm one of these guys that can sit down and watch almost any NFL. team. Giants, unwatchable. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas, hard to watch. Carolina with Bryce Young, I can watch a little. Jets Aaron Rogers, I'll watch. Chicago, I'll watch. Saints Tonight, unwatchable. So it's just interesting. It's something I've really changed my mind on, is that having an owner, I always thought was a huge advantage. But I think Green Bay going forward, having no owner because I now believe because of the impulsive nature of billionaires, richer owners, less patient, more impulsive. There's only about four to five great owners. I think the Hunt family in Kansas City is excellent. Stan Cronky with the Rams is really

excellent. You know, Robert Kraft, people will argue he's frugal, but a pretty solid owner. But there's a lot of average to below average owners right now. There's more good quarterbacks and good coaches in the NFL than great owners. And I think going forward, you're allowed to be much more patient. I mean, you're allowed to sit Aaron Rogers on the bench for three years and grow. You couldn't do that if you had an owner. No way you could have a first round quarterback and not rush him onto the field. The owner would be herping every year. There's no way you could have Jordan Love sit for three years as Aaron was getting prickly and high maintenance and passive aggressive, an owner would have stepped in and said, ship him, let's play the kid.

Just why do you think Green Bay, more than any NFL franchise, can keep using this formula, drafting, you know, high-end quarterbacks first round, and not playing them for three years? You could not do that. Even with a good owner, you couldn't do it. There'd be too much pressure. I mean, I think you'd be surprised how often owners listen to sports talk. and listen to fans. GMs are too busy to listen.

So are coaches. Players don't really care. Billionaire owners who have people under them want to get the temperature of fans in the media. And, I mean, there's no question that New York media is influenced Woody Johnson influenced by the New York media, firing Robert Sala. You know, nobody, everybody was banging on him. And if Woody Johnson's not listening, his kids are listening, we've heard stories about Woody Johnson's kids having influence.

So I think it's a real advantage for Green Bay going forward. And I believe strongly in this. And I never used to think it is that as the wealth and the net worth has gone up 10 times for owners, you don't have to worry about Brian Gudenkoontz, Mark Murphy. Who are they answering to? The Packers Board. And it's, you know, not a lot of power there. So, you know, I'm Washington Green Bay, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they have been able with the last two star quarterbacks to just let them sit for three years.

No way in the world could you do that with an owner, even a good owner. So tip of the cap to the Packers. Some more thoughts on college football. There was a lot of angry reactions to college football, and I really thought the games would be more competitive. But in retrospect, you know, college teams struggle on the road. And I think you have to realize with certain things. Like as sports fans, especially football fans in America, we're sort of spoiled, right? I mean, you have the Pacific 10 o'clock window, the 1 o'clock window, Sunday night, Monday night.

It's very formulaic in the NFL. Got to have a quarterback to win. You have four or five major broadcast teams. You really know what to expect when you're all out of bed on a Sunday morning with the NFL. You got your red zone early, your big. Fox games, CBS games late, Sunday night football NBC, Monday night ESPN, you get used to it. And college football is a little bit of a barnyard musical. It's, you know, it's, it games starting early, mid, late. You never know you'd turn on a game Saturday at midnight. You'd find something on,

you know. There's just games everywhere. And it's always been a sport that has blowouts. And so I guess in retrospect, as this tournament expands to 14 or 16 teams, you're just going to get blowouts. That's just the way it is. I mean, I'll say this again. Go back to Nick Saban's heyday, that 12-year run where they were really dominant. There were years. There weren't three teams that could compete with them on a neutral field. Maybe LSU, Georgia, Ohio State Clemson, if they had good quarterback play.

Maybe. So don't expect the 12th best team and the 11th, the 10th, and the 9th, and the 8th going forward to play road games and to compete. I mean, hell, I'm watching Tennessee get steamrolled, and they got pros. They don't have Ohio State's pros, but they got pros. And I think we just have to understand that the one similarity between the college football regular season and the college football playoff is these are 19 and 20-year-old kids. And they are extremely influenced by circumstances. And like tonight, the Saints are a bad team in Green Bay. They'd lose at home. They'd lose in Green Bay. That's not a circumstance, that's a personnel issue, a coaching issue. But in the NFL, you know, you go on the road. Right now in Vegas, they consider the home field advantage to be a point to a point in a half because of improved technology and improved travel. Teams just travel smarter than they did eight, nine, ten years ago. But, I mean, people are really freaking out about the college football playoff. And I mean, it's better than the alternative. Bowl games with empty stands.

going forward with the NIL with players who don't really want to play in them. Some do, you know, some six-win teams, it means a lot to end up in, you know, a bowl game. But a lot of these big-name schools that are disappointing, I mean, just look if Ohio State wasn't playing in the playoff this year, they'd be in like the, you know, the citrus bowl or something. You know, seven, eight, ten guys on that roster, they're looking to the NFL. Some wouldn't even play. So you take a deep breath. We're a little spoiled by the NFL.

and the quality, generally, the time, the structure, the formulaic nature to it. You know, the margins in college football on any given Saturday, there's 20 blowouts. Sometimes when you have good teams square off, you know, I mean, Ohio State and Tennessee, those are blue bloods. That thing was over in eight minutes. It wasn't even competitive. Generally in the NFL, you know, Ravens face the Steelers, Chiefs face the Texans. You know, you kind of feel like both teams have a chance.

One team may be better. Home field matters a little. But you kind of know, you know, if you get two good quarterbacks and two good coaches, I mean, the Jets and the Rams. I mean, you got Aaron Rogers, Matt Stafford, and that was a good football game. The better team should have won and did. It's a competitive football game for three quarters. They're all pros.

So I think the college football playoffs is just going to get better and better. But we just got to bake it in. College teams on the road, even talented ones. things go sideways really fast really fast The volume Hey guys, it's us The Jonas Brothers, I'm Joe

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