The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - INSTANT REACTION to Bengals-Broncos & Jets-Dolphins; Sean Payton & Bo Nix dominate

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Colin Cowherd reacts to the Denver Broncos beating the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football. Colin gives his takes on Bo Nix, Sean Payton & Zac Taylor. Is Denver a true contender this seaso...n? Colin also talks about the Miami Dolphins getting their first win of the season vs the New York Jets. Both teams are in the need of a rebuild. Which teams will draft a QB in the 2026 NFL Draft? All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet hardrock.bet  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:33 When his receivers or his backs are out in the flat, that ball 100, for a hundred times is right out in front. They catch it moving forward. It is accurate. It is on a line. It's not a loopy pass where they have to wait for it. That's NFL quarterback play. That's Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:03:54 The ability to get the ball out quickly. The receiver has the ball running. And I mean, between Mims and Franklin and Harvey and Cortland Sutton, they just have a lot of guys who, can run and catch. And Bo Nix is athletic. And he had a bad pick tonight. But, you know, people forget this. Go look at Drew Brees. Second ear was Sean Payton. His interceptions went up. Sean Payton puts a ton on his quarterbacks. That, that, tonight they had motion on 35% of their plays. There is no handholding. There is no babysitting. You got to be smart. You got to be
Starting point is 00:04:37 focused. If it's important for you to be cool, if it's important for you to look this way or that way, it's not going to work. This is an adult offense for a smart, intense, laser-focused quarterback. Drew Brees is intense. He still is. Bo Nicks. You don't see a lot of smiles during the game. It's all business. And that's what Sean Payton's offense demands. I really like what they've done. He and the GM. I like what they've done with the office. offense. You know, J.K. Dobbins was a late ad. J.K. is excellent. Troy Aikman talked about it tonight when J.K. is healthy. And you know, there's guys in this league that can't make it through a 17 game schedule, but J.K. Dobbins is an excellent running back. He's got great instincts,
Starting point is 00:05:22 really nice vision. His instincts, I always feel J.K. Dobbins is one of those running backs that's looking like eight to 10 yards ahead. He sets everything up really well. But I really like watching Denver play. The Colts game, you know, on that final kick penalty. They should have won that game. I think the roster is one of the four or five best rosters in the league. And I think it goes, it may not be Philadelphia, but I think it's in the Detroit, Kansas City, Buffalo, Green Bay class. I think it's that good. The pass rush doesn't feel quite as dominant. Now, Cincinnati, you know, bad offensive line. The Colt shut down the Broncos pass rush, but that's a really good Colts offensive line. I think the Colts are going to win
Starting point is 00:06:10 that division. I think they may win it going away. It's no shame in losing to Indianapolis. That's a good team. But I like everything they do. I just think Sean Payton, you know what I find a lot of times, and the media does this a lot. Fans do it all the time, but I don't hold the fans to a high standard. I hold the media to a higher standard. A lot of times the media, it's really pervasive. If they don't like a guy, then they'll criticize him. That they're let their bias get in the way. Sean Payton is better than 99% of the coaches in this league. And he's got a great eye for personnel. And a lot of coaches don't. Andy Reid doesn't want to do personnel. Jimmy Johnson was legendary at it. Sean Payton's great with personnel. Jim Harbaugh's
Starting point is 00:06:53 very good with personnel. Sean's excellent. I mean, look at these skill guys. They don't miss on these guys. Franklin, Troy Franklin out of Oregon, Bow Nix's teammate, feels like a number three to me. there were four drop passes tonight. He had one of them, but Bo Nick still went 29 to 42 for 326 yards. So in that last touchdown out in the flat, they just are always prepared. And again, Bo Nix throws the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's not Justin Fields dink and dunk. You know, it's a big boy offense. They're throwing that ball down the field aggressively. And you get some interceptions. Elway threw him, Nema threw him, Brady through him, Peyton Manning threw him, Josh Allen threw him. I like my quarterback's throwing the ball aggressively down the field. And I think Bo Nix is not only a better athlete than his draft preview.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I think he's got a better arm. I thought he had kind of a Derek car arm in college. I think it's gotten stronger. But I just like his temperament. There's just no bullshit with Bo Nix. He is just laser-focused. He can take to coaching. He'll bark right back.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It's all ball all the time. So I like Denver a lot. I think they cleaned up some things tonight. Cincinnati's a mess. But again, if Joe Burrell played, they'd be a borderline playoff team, but not a great team. Zach Taylor's fine. I don't think he's necessarily special. I think he's fine as a coach.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I think the owner is the cheapest in the league. I think the front office is mediocre. They don't have a big scouting department. and I feel like Denver's got, now I think the richest owner in the sport first or second, they're totally committed to Sean Payton in the front office and the roster. So I think Denver is on a short list of teams.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know. I look at their personnel. I think if you look at their schedule now, you look at their schedule, they got a lot of Ws coming. And I talked about this last week, Sean Payton's record in September, in his career is 30 and 30.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Now think about that. Think how good Sean Pate and all the success he's had, his worst month easily, easily. October on, he wins like 75% of his games. It's September. Why? He comes in, massive playbook, a lot of motion, a lot of sets, and he is demanding on his quarterbacks. And what did you get in the first couple of weeks?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Mistakes, penalties, they just quite didn't have it all buttoned up. Love what I see from Denver. Just love it. I mean, J.K. Dobbins and Harvey, Cortland Sutton, who, I think Cortland Sutton's really good. I think he's a number one. God, Franklin, Mims, and Bonex, great athlete. So a nice win for Denver, a team I really, really like.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And, you know, Sean Payton can be Kurt and glib for some people, but, you know, I mean, that's the reality. Some people are smart and they've got strong opinions. People I've found in my career, people love strong opinions only when they agree with them. and Sean Payton called out Nathaniel Hackett. He was right. And he called out Russell Wilson. He was right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He called out the previous regime. He was right. He was right across the board. You just don't have to like how it sounds. But you can't watch that offense and not see the play design, the play calling. Bow Nix is a hit. He just, that kid just fires. He throws the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:10:27 and after his interception, he doesn't care. It's very Andrew Luck. He doesn't care. He doesn't pout. He goes to the sideline, looks at the pad, and goes right back out there. I love Bo Nick so much. Today's show brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. The leaves are falling.
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Starting point is 00:12:33 We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
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Starting point is 00:15:47 I would have moved off Tyreek Hill last year. He got hurt tonight. Cross your fingers on his health because he's an amazing player. I would have moved off Tua last year. year. Tua's cap hit next year, it's going to be higher than Josh Allen and Justin Herbert's. But it's interesting. Justin Fields is a tremendous kid, and he's a great athlete. Dink and dump. Doesn't throw the ball down the field. Tua doesn't have the arm strength to go deep, but he's really good in the pocket. And relative to NFL quarterbacks, he's not a great athlete.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But in the end, the Jets, when you have a quarterback who just takes off and runs all the time, You get great highlights, but they had three fumbles. They had 12 penalties. It's sloppy. It looks disorganized. It's just sort of ad lib offense. And again, they've got talent. You know, I think, you know, Garrett Wilson is obviously very good.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Mason, the tight end. I think he's a really talented player. Mason Taylor. You know, Breece Hall, Braylon Allen before he got hurt. I mean, they've got some nice playmakers there. But I don't think you can make it. It's one thing if the quarterback. runs. Justin Fields, I think, is a run-first guy. I never feel totally comfortable with him in the
Starting point is 00:17:02 pocket. He just doesn't throw the ball down the field enough for me. It's a lot of underneath stuff. And I don't know if he doesn't see the field well or he doesn't trust his instincts, but, you know, he doesn't scare a defense. He doesn't threaten a defense. He does it with his big plays or with his feet. And I think those are a great additive. But Caleb Williams won this weekend because Caleb Williams can make big throws down the middle of the field. I said this about Caleb Williams on the herd today on FS1. I said, you can talk about the running. Caleb Williams, multiple times against the Raiders, multiple times against Dallas.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He makes hard throws, and he throws it right down the middle of the field. Now, Caleb's not afraid, even after interceptions. He's going to let it rip, and he's got a big arm. Well, Justin's got a big arm, and he's athletic, but I just don't feel like he either doesn't trust the coaching. He doesn't trust himself. He doesn't trust his targets, but he just doesn't push the ball down the field. I mean, I'm looking at the pass chart from Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's all just little tiny stuff underneath. Anybody can do that. That's not threatening the defense. Either he doesn't see the field or it doesn't trust people. But that's not a franchise quarterback. I mean, you got to throw the ball down the field. So franchises going nowhere. And again, he's a well-liked guy.
Starting point is 00:18:29 He works hard. But sometimes there's just a, you have it or you don't. You know? And some guys just can make those consistent big throws and are willing to let it rip. So I don't feel like it's hard to judge the jets. I mean, they're sloppy. They look disorganized. There's penalties.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But they're four games in. That's what Aaron Glenn, by the way, criticized of the previous. regime was, you know, we're going to clean this up. Well, they're worse than ever. You know, Mets fans tend to be Jets fans. So it's a miserable last couple days in New York for sports fans of a certain group. I just, I look at the Jets and I'm like, I don't know if they have the right coach. I don't think they have the right quarterback. In fact, I wrote down, it's a really interesting quarterback class. I think Dante Moore is the best I've seen. And I think Carr I think it's C.J. Carr out of Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I think he's really good. But the Jets are going to draft a quarterback. The Raiders are going to draft a quarterback. Cleveland's going to draft a quarterback. The Saints are probably going to draft a quarterback. I think Minnesota should draft a quarterback. And I think the Rams will, although I think they'll keep Stafford for another year. But Stafford next year will be, what, 38 years old?
Starting point is 00:19:45 So I think the Jets, I mean, you can say what you want about Cleveland, but Cleveland's got a great defense. You can say what you want about Minnesota, but it's got a great coaching staff. The Jets don't have a lot, I like. They have some individual talent, but I don't know what they do particularly well. I mean, when you watch the Jets, you tell me if you're a Jets fan, what are they? I always say this, you can tell really good coaching. You know, Mike McDaniel may not be a head coach, but I think he'd be a tremendous coordinator somewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Because when I watch Mike McDaniel's offense, I mean, there's certain things you can't do it to it. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't throw a great deep ball, especially in cold weather. But I can watch Mike McDaniels, and I see an identity offensively. I don't love Chris Greer, the GM. If you have two as a quarterback, you have to have a good O-line and you have to have a good backup. They have neither. So I don't blame it all on Mike McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:20:42 But I can see what they're trying to do, a lot of motion, a lot of sets, a lot of deception. I see what they're trying to do. I don't know what the Jets' offense is. I don't know what the Jets team is. buttoned up. They've got talent. Everybody except Tennessee, I think, has talent. I mean, Houston's got all sorts of talent. But, you know, I don't get it. I don't see it. And I've said this. Everybody's always afraid of money and power and sports. Small markets are kicking butt. I mean, Denver's not a huge market. They got a good football team. So does Green
Starting point is 00:21:23 Bay. So does Kansas City. So does Buffalo. New York teams are a mess. Although I will say this when I watch the Giants, I feel like I kind of know what they are with Scataboo. It's like, and Dart, those guys are good athletes. They're going to run the football. And you look at their defensive front, Abdul Carter, Dexter Lawrence, and they got dudes. I mean, I know with the Giants, the Giants personnel defensively up front. That's a great, not a good, a great defensive line. They have a unit that's overpowering. I mean, they beat the chargers. I don't know what the jets are. They just have talent here, talent there. I don't think they look well-coached. You know, they pick up yards. They don't score enough points. They don't sustain drives. There's kind of a mess of an
Starting point is 00:22:08 operation. But it's early. I mean, how much can I come and hammer on Aaron Glenn? I mean, how much time we got here? I don't know. I mean, I think if you look in the NFL right now. We all know there's about six to seven to eight really, really good quarterbacks. Dak looks like one of them this year. Let's say there's 10 good quarterbacks and there's 10 really good coaches. Well, there's only about 10 really good ownership groups and I don't think the Jets are one of them. I don't think the dolphins are one of them. I think Denver is learning. They're all learning each other, but I think Denver's a force to be reckoned with going forward. Bow Nicks, Sean Payton, that money, that ownership. And Denver's a cool place to live. A lot of athletes. I think I think Peyton Manning
Starting point is 00:22:55 have all the places in the country he could live. I think Peyton Manning chose Denver. So it's a cool place to live. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful city. I think the Denver Broncos have about a 10-year run here with a lot of double use. And I think tonight it's it's the beginning of a pretty special season for the Broncos. The Dolphin should have moved off people. The Jets are what they are. And there you go. Instant reaction. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.
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Starting point is 00:24:11 and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I Heart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.
Starting point is 00:24:45 This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast Deeply Well with Debbie Brown. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to Deeply Well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice.
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