The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Joe Burrow on Ravens L Rebound, Zac Taylor Criticism

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

First, (3:00) Colin explains why there’s no walking back Commanders HC Ron Rivera’s negative public comments about Carson Wentz, and how offensive head coaches are reshaping college football like ...the NFL. Then, Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow joins Colin to discuss losing a nail biter to AFC North rival Ravens, how he processes and moves past a tough loss (9:00), why it’s important for him to look for big play opportunities despite opposing teams specifically game planning to prevent them (11:00), why he still has confidence in HC Zac Taylor despite heavy media criticism (12:00), if he was surprised that his comments about playing through concussions gained media traction (14:00), the biggest adjustment moving from Columbus to Louisiana to finish his college career (21:00), what the Bengals are doing well and what they need to improve through 5 weeks (24:00), how he would handle a backup QB like Cooper Rush threatening his starting job (29:00).  Joe also answers some rapid fire questions, including the fiercest competitor he’s faced, the most talented non-Bengals receiver, and the most physically freakish opponent, and which player gets the Burrow stamp of approval for the best fashion sense (34:00).  Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates, check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action, and visit Cuts to get the best fall fits! #Herd #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 He gave a one-word answer. Quarterback. Ugh. He walked it back. He had a mea culpa. but there are certain mea copas that just don't work. It's out there. Will Smith to Chris Rock, not really a mea culpa moment.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I think Ron Rivera and Mike Zimmer and Bill Belichick and Vic Fangio and Brian Flores are your sort of classic archetypal defensive head coaches. And I'm not talking Woody Hayes of the 70s, but there's a way they want to win and it's ball can be. running game and very few turnovers. I think that's something that really, really bothers a defensive coach is the turnover, the interception. Pete Carroll, it just cannot get past turnovers. And the truth is, if they're between the 35s, they're just a change of possession. Right?
Starting point is 00:02:58 You don't want to turn it over at the one yard line, your territory or theirs. But because now there's no huddle, each offense gets about. 12 to 15 more snaps per game. And over the course, I mean, Tom Brady's now throwing 45, 50 times a game. You're going to have an interception. You've got to take the good with the bad. And I think a lot of these defensive coaches really struggle with it. Sean McVeigh knew when he brought in Matt Stafford.
Starting point is 00:03:25 He threw picks. Matt Stafford was at times reckless. Joe Burrell throws interceptions. You know who doesn't? Aaron Rogers. He can't get out of the first round. So my takeaway is Ron Rivera may apologize, but that's how he thinks. I mean, I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:03:48 There are certain mistakes that it's like who you are, right? And you can apologize and you can genuinely feel bad about saying them, but it's what you believe. And I think the way Ron Rivera sees football is very much in line with a defensive coach in his 50s. And to him, Carson Wentz at times can be reckless. But I will note this. The Colts were ninth in scoring last year. Wentz leaves their 32nd. There is an upside to Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He is dynamic. Whether Ron Rivera wants to acknowledge it or not. So let's touch on offensive coaches in college football because of Nick Saban's success and Kirby Smart success. We view college football is still dominated by defensive men. It's interesting. I went and looked this morning. UCLA and USC. Pack 12's best teams, offensive head coaches, Chip Kelly, Lincoln Riley.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Ryan Day, Ohio State, Jim Harbaugh, Michigan, James. Franklin Penn State. Three best teams. All offensive coaches. The surprise team in the SEC, Tennessee, Josh Heiple, offense, Ole Miss Lane Kiffin, offense. Best team in the Big 12? Could be Oklahoma State Mike Gundy. Offense. TCU, undefeated. Offensive head coach. Surprise team in the Big 12. Kansas, Lance Leopold. Offensive head coach. Clemson, best ACC team. Dabo Sweeney, offensive head coach.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Folks, just because Nick Saban and Belichick have more rings and titles and in Sabin's case, more momentum, it is very clear. Pac-12, Big 12, Big 10, ACC, NFL, the game, the regulations, the rules, and the talent has moved. The fame and the money is on offense, and that's where the best players are going. Look at college football. Take out Saban. Kirby Smart's one of the few defensive guys crushing it.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Brent Venables, disaster. Whittingham, Utah, preseason favorite. Disappointing. Nine of the top 11 college football teams in America today. offensive head coaches. Learn it, live it, love it. Time for Joe Burrow. Start the NFL week off right with a no sweat,
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Starting point is 00:08:49 It doesn't matter that losing close is just a killer. And I think to myself, no, because essentially, if you'd have had the ball last, you'd have won. I thought you did. So, like, where are you emotionally after losing a game like that? Yeah, it was, you know, you let yourself be devastated for about two hours. And then you go watch the tape and it's on to the next week. That's life in the NFL. You know, we've got plenty of football left.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Obviously, we're disappointed with, you know, how we've lost the games that we've lost. But, you know, I think that we've progressed nicely. would have liked to have won the last game, but I think we learned a lot of lessons from that game going forward that I think are going to help us. I think the greatest compliment you can pay a young quarterback is to take away something from him.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You and Patrick Mahomes, literally the league now is like, okay, they burn us over the top, we're not allowing that anymore. And statistically, it's showing up as fewer big plays. I watched you the other night. You look patient to me. But in the end, part of your secret sauce last year, Joe, was big plays. Can you scheme those?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Like, where are you on that in that area? Well, you know, the three games we've lost, we haven't had any big plays in the common denominator in all three games is that we've fallen behind early. You know, the two games we've won, we jumped out to a lead. Defenses had to be more aggressive because we were. leading and allowed us to hit some of those big plays. When you get down 10-0-0 early, you know, defense is not going to be as aggressive. They're not going to play man-to-man as much as you would like them to. And so, you know, we fought back, got a tie, took the lead at the end.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But, you know, if we jump out early, you know, teams are going to have to start playing as more man-to-man, be more aggressive. And, you know, I thought overall, you know, the first quarter was poor. and we didn't move the ball the way we liked to, but then after that, we went touchdown, two-minute, field goal, and then I had the bad interception in the second half, and then we had two drives after that,
Starting point is 00:11:07 one touchdown, and one we got down to the two. So we moved the ball well after that first quarter. Just got to find a way to punch in the end zone and make those plays at the end of the end of the game that end up winning the game for you. I've always, I always feel, what do I know, that play callings a little overrated, that play efficiency,
Starting point is 00:11:25 the play right, you're fine. Fans just crush play calling. Zach Taylor's just getting killed. And my takeaway is, this is hard. They're, they're reading your audibles. Do you ever look at a game after and say, oh, I should have fought for this play? Oh, I can't believe we did that. You always look back and evaluate everything that goes on the game. You know, for me, I'm evaluating every single play. I could have thrown it here. If I would have done this instead of this, it might have won us the game. That always happens when you lose a game. Everybody wants to talk about the decision to go forward on fourth down. If we end up scoring on that play, we go up four points, and it changes the entire game. So, you know, I was happy with that decision. You look at that
Starting point is 00:12:15 moment in the game and we had just started moving the ball really well. Their offense had started to roll a little bit. You get that touchdown completely changes the game. We're talking about. Right. Is there ever a time that you have ever said to a coach, I heard Peyton Manning say this about two months ago on ESPN. He said, sometimes you're just struggling to get four yards. He goes, I've turned to the coach and say, you know, just get points. We're not blocking them. This year, has there ever been a point where you're like, listen, just take the points? no i would always you know whatever whatever whatever zach or any of our coaches decide to do it's our job to go out and execute
Starting point is 00:12:59 and i love being putting those do-or-die spots on fourth down if you got to you know those are high-pressure situations that i feel like i excel in and you know if you you know those are game turning game-changing plays and if you get that fourth down, if you get the fourth downs throughout the game, you're going to completely change the outcome of the game. And so you're going to have to take gambols in this league sometime, and sometimes they don't pay off,
Starting point is 00:13:31 and you're going to lose the game. But sometimes they do, and then you're a genius when you do it. And so it's just the outcome, hindsight is always 2020. And you can look back and determine what you think he should have done in that situation. but, you know, like I said, if we get a completely different narrative. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You, Trent Dilfer, Drew Bledsoe, every quarterback that I have talked to at length in my life has said the exact same thing you said last week. There's halves I don't remember. Like, I play quarterback. I've been hit. I've been hit and I don't even know I'm hit. Were you surprised how quotable that was? I mean, I thought it was Joe Burrell's being totally honest.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I even got hit in high school. Now, it was single-A football, and it was probably a 5-8 defensive back. But were you surprised that it kind of took off socially? Yeah, you know, fortunately for me, I'm not exactly on the internet and on social media all the time, so I'm not seeing all the reactions. But I think if you talk to any player throughout the entire league, they're going to have the same story that I had. That's just part of the game. You can do all you can to make it safe.
Starting point is 00:14:46 safer and help eliminate those kind of things. But at the end of the day, it's a violent game and those things are going to happen. Yeah. So there's obviously, I was talking to Mike Pereira today, the former head of officials, about like the Jarrett Brady call or the Chris Jones call. And I'm like, man, it feels like an overreach. And he surprised me. He said he doesn't think the league has talked to officials.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He thinks officials read the paper and they watch shows. And they feel like we got. got to protect the quarterback. And when you watch, if you watch the Derek Carmon, I thought it was the best defensive play of the year by a defensive lineman. I thought Chris Jones did something that's insane, literally get a sack and a turnover simultaneously. I thought Jared, who's an, I don't know if you played against him, he's just a fantastic
Starting point is 00:15:34 player. I didn't think his was a penalty. When you see those and it's protecting your position, how does it land for you? I think it depends on the individual play. I think the diving into the quarterback's knees is a good rule. You know, that's, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't malicious when I got hurt. It was an accident, but that's how I got hurt my rookie year. And it's a very dangerous play.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And you see the full body weight rule, you know, that's how Aaron Rogers broke his collarbone back in the day. That's how quarterbacks hurt their shoulders. And so I think it's just depends on how we want. the game to be officiated? Do you want your best players and best marketable athletes out on the field at all times? Or do you want
Starting point is 00:16:24 to have the big hits that everybody loves? It's a give and take. I think there's probably a happy medium that we can find. But I think we're getting in that direction. It's such an emotional
Starting point is 00:16:41 game. And today, Tuesday, as I always do my top 10. And I had you guys at like seven or eight. And the guy on the show is like, they're like two and three. And I said, they're not standings. I do this because of what I believe. I watch the games.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I'm like, that game is just, it's a tennis match. Last serve wins. I thought Joe won the game. Then it's, you know, Lamar's great. But it is interesting. When I watched both of you that game is that it was uneven. Like you struggled early. He had a couple passes where he mentioned.
Starting point is 00:17:13 missed it. In basketball, Joe, it's understood that a guy gets hot, like Jordan gets hot, Kobe gets hot. I felt you had a point in the second half. I'm like, you're really in a zone. I watch your feet. Your feet get light. And I know I may be reaching here. But when I watch you, I feel like when you're in your zone, you play light. You move. You're kind of like bouncing. Does that make sense? When you're in a zone, what do you feel like? Yeah, I feel like the defense is slowing down for me, and that happens more later in the game. You know, going into every single game, we've been facing different coverages than teams have been showing on tape just because of how explosive our receivers are, how good we were on offense last year. And so the beginnings of games have kind of been a feeling out process.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I think at the end of games, we've been good. we just need to find a way to make those adjustments faster so we don't waste an entire quarter in three possessions trying to figure it out. And I thought, you know, I got in my zone about midway through the second quarter. You know, I was feeling good, which is why I was so disappointed in the interception, really bad interception for me that, you know, I felt like cost us the game. And other than that, play the second quarter on, I felt like I was playing lights out. and, you know, that one was disappointing for me.
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Starting point is 00:20:11 And that is like one of the most unique places for you in your life. And it's, I heard this years ago, they said New Orleans is the most unique American city. It smells. It feels the food, the language. Take me back for an Ohio kid that ends up having Creole for dinner and jumble line. was there a little culture shock? You know, we watched your senior year and you're, you know, you're tearing it up. Go back to your first two months there.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Do you ever call mom and dad be like, there's spice and everything, send crackers? It's too much. Yeah, I mean, if you ever talk to anybody from Louisiana, you know it's pretty hard to understand them at the beginning. I mean, everyone heard Coach O in interviews. And so when I first got there, you know, I was learning all this new lingo and trying to figure out how people talked and sometimes I was like hey Coach oh you got to slow down a little bit for me I can't really hear you
Starting point is 00:21:07 I would hey Jamar I don't know what what are you saying slow it down for me a little bit and so the the language was the biggest you know culture shock for me because it was hard to understand people and that I hadn't experienced that
Starting point is 00:21:22 in the United States before yeah it's it's a French it's Louisiana it's French man do they love their football It really is. I went to an LSU game years ago. It was Sabin was coaching there.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And lightning hit like the stadium. It was crazy. And people were taking their clothes off, like jumping in the water in the field. I'm like, this is insane. As great as Ohio State was, I always feel like the SEC feels different. Right? Yeah, it does. What is it?
Starting point is 00:21:59 What is it? Well, a lot of the states, the teams down there don't have a professional team. You know, New Orleans has the Saints and Atlanta has the Falcons, but there's not any in Alabama. So that's why Auburn in Alabama have such passionate fan bases. And I think that kind of permeates throughout the entire South. You know, something that was crazy for me was there was a hurricane coming to town when I was living there and I was asking people, hey, do I need to get sandbags? Do I need to board up my door? What's going on? They're like, no, we're throwing a party. It's a hurricane party. Come to the party. I was like, what are we talking about? I need to go inside. That is great. So, okay, you're four or five, you're five games into a season. So essentially, you know, you're past the quarter mark. What are you happy about? right now.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, what is something, if I have a bad day or a bad week, I try to go back and kind of embrace the good part. Let's figure out what I did right. What are you happy with right now with your play in the Bengals overall? Well, I'm really happy with the way we fought back in the games that we've lost. You know, we've been down, we were down big to Steelers, down big to the Cowboys, down 10 nothing early in the game to the Ravens, and we ended up finding back and putting ourselves in position to win every single game.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So that's what I've been happy with. You know, disappointed in the way that those games turned out. And, you know, the lack of explosives in those games. But like I said, if you get behind the chains and you're in second and 10, it's going to be tough to hit those big plays down the field. And I think we're getting better, better at, you know, taking the checkdowns and turning those two-yard catches into eight-yard gains and moving the ball down the field,
Starting point is 00:23:58 six, seven, eight yards at a time. That's what we did in the second half. You know, we had two, eight-minute drives, 12, 15-play drives that, you know, were big parts of the game. We only had three drives in the second half, and one of them, like I said, was my horrible interception. But other than that, you know, we methodically moved the ball down the field.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I think that's what we're going to have to do going forward. We're just going to have to do it earlier in games. I mean, God, Kansas City was down 17 nothing last night. Like, I've been telling people this for years. We'll never have in my lifetime again a bad wide receiver class in the NFL draft. Like in California, Joe, I follow recruiting because I've been into it for years. The top 100 players next year in high school in California, like 30 are wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And the way my look at it is if I was young and talented and I was 12, I'd want to be a receiver or a quarterback. You can't hit me. I make money. The girls like me. I get on TV. I mean, it's seriously. Like, young people start the culture. Like, I look at it right now.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And I just think the new NFL, you're in the new NFL. A 17-0-0 lead is like, all right. I mean, seriously, when you, your first year's football, 17-0-0-lead, the game's over. Yeah. Seriously, in high school, it's over. I mean, so, like, when you're in a game now, can you sense? like offense is fast. The receivers? I mean, it's a different game today than it was for you 15 years ago
Starting point is 00:25:32 when you took your first snaps. Well, it is. And, you know, like you said, it's a quarterback receiver league now. And you see defenses adjusting and changing the way that they play because of it. And you see the Tyreeks, the Jemars, the Devanti Adams. They're changing defensive structure in a way that hasn't really been done before. and that's part of the rules these days and it's part of the growth of the game and the seven-on-seven culture growing up,
Starting point is 00:26:02 people are throwing and catching way earlier than they ever have been in the past. No question. And, you know, quarterbacks are just going to continue to get better and better. And I think you really see it in the diversity of skill sets
Starting point is 00:26:17 that quarterbacks have in the NFL today. You know, you have Kyler Murray, who the knock on NIS is short, but he makes up for it. for it with his speed and accuracy. And then you have Justin Herbert, who's the big, strong, prototypical quarterback of the past, but he can move. And you have me, the tall skinny kid that can move and is accurate.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It may not have the biggest arm. Then you have the Lamars, the Josh Allen, the Patrick Mahomes. I mean, everybody is, and Tom Brady is still playing really well. It's just such a diversity of skillsets throughout the league that is really great for the game and great for young people, you don't have to be 6-5-250 anymore to be a quarterback in the league. And I think it's just going to continue to show.
Starting point is 00:27:01 So when Jimmy Garoppolo was in New England, Tom Brady's the goat and he didn't want him there. And it's pretty well documented. He was like, I don't want to be sharing snaps. So it's easy for everybody to say, you're the starter, Dak. He's the backup. That sounds good.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But if my company hired somebody and he took over for me for five weeks and the ratings went up, I've been doing this forever. I'd be like, I'm not a big fan of that. So what if your backup ones, like the Cowboys, won five or six straight games? Would you get up in the morning and think, okay, I've got to take more protein powder. I mean, I'm rooting. You obviously want your team to win. But it's, I think it is hard.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like when you were out, you want your team to win. and obviously. Somebody once told me, like, there's really only one quarterback in a roster. You know this at Ohio State. You're the starter or you're just literally not in the plans. Do you think about that? Like, grateful to be the starter.
Starting point is 00:28:06 What if I wasn't the starter? The Dallas, when you hear guys like me or people talk about the backup situation, what do you make of it? You know, that's a tough one because, you know, it's easy to sit on the outside and say, you know, this guy's the starter, this guy's the backup. But when you're in it and you're feeling it,
Starting point is 00:28:28 it definitely creates more of an urgency to get back. And one, to get back as fast as you can, but two, also, it's a double-sided coin. Make sure you're completely healthy. So when you are back, you're able to play well and do what you need to do to win in the game. And so, you know, that's a part of the reason that, you know, when I hurt my knee, I wanted to make sure I came back and play the entire season the next season and be back week one. You know, I had a good start to my career, but, you know, I hadn't really proven anything yet. And I still, to this day, feeling like I have to prove myself.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And that was a big part. I think the best quarterbacks are always trying to prove themselves to the world, to themselves, to their coaches, to ownership. and so it's always tough when you're down and your team's playing great without you. Obviously it's a great thing for when you come back, but it always creates a sense of urgency. This week's gold medal performance goes to the team who, despite losing a big star, hasn't missed a beat.
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Starting point is 00:32:19 By the way, the kid Cuddy, when my daughter reacts to something I do on the internet, I know it's a hit when my daughter is like, Dad, you're funny. I'm like, not really as embarrassing. Okay. The fiercest competitor you've faced in the NFL that's not on the Bengals. T.J. Watt always gets after it. He's always very intense. He wasn't on the field.
Starting point is 00:32:47 for one of our games last year. And you can really feel the difference in that defense when he's on the field. He's such a good player. Makes plays at a lot of defense events. Can't make. He's not just a pass rusher. He really understands, you know, quarterback's drops. And when it might be a deeper pass and he can rush the passer.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And when it's a quick game and he can stop and get his hands up, both both Wapwaters are really good at batting balls. And so he's a great player. The most talented receiver not on the Bengals is... I mean, Tyree Kill is always fun to watch. Devonty Adams playing against him last year was unreal in person. When Tyree Hill gets the ball in his hands, it just looks different than everybody else. He's just moving at a different speed.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's pretty incredible. Is there a player that you look at? in the NFL and think he'd be great on the Bengals. You know, there's a lot of great play. I'm going to give the stereotypical quarterback answer on this one. There's a lot of great players in the league that you would love to play with. Every week, you know, there's somebody that you've got to pay attention to that is going to be a game wrecker.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And, you know, the more great players you can have on your team, the better. All right, the player on another team, and maybe a player on another team, and maybe you answered it. It is so good. You think he may be an alien. LeBron James said this about a French player that's 18 years old the other day. He's like, I think he's an alien. He's 7'4 and shoots like a guard.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Who's the most physically impressive? Like, if you ever shirts off or you're on the sidelines or you watch me, you're like, what is that? Oh, Miles Garrett is an absolute freak of nature. if you've I mean unbelievable Cam Hayward is a pretty impressive human being in person the first time I played him
Starting point is 00:34:55 I thought he looked like a bear he's so big and strong I mean there's a lot of people like that those two guys are the first two that come to the mine in our division though yeah your division by the way is Miles Garrett Hayward T.J. Watt oh my God
Starting point is 00:35:12 you picked a bad division to have a soft pass rush. God, it's brutal. We've talked about your fashion before. Who have you ever looked at in the league and thought he gets it? Fashion-wise, he gets it. It's a good question. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:35:30 There's a lot of people with, I think not everybody likes to mix it up. Some people are suits on game day. Some people are more streetwear. I like to mix it up. You know, the occasional suit, occasional street. where a guy on our team that I think has great fashion is Cito, Chito Ouzier, our corner. He's Nigerian.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He has a lot of great, I mean, just great outfits that are very pertinent towards culture. You should go check some of those out there. Really, really cool to look at. Finally, it's week five. How do you feel? Are you sore? You told me you bruise like a peach. We're doing this interview on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You just played a division rival. How do you feel today? What is Tuesday afternoon Joe Burrow feel like? My body actually feels great today. I'm feeling strong in the weight room. You know, my workouts are starting to get back to where they were pre-appendix surgery. And so I'm starting to feel, you know, my body is starting to get to mid-season form. I'm happy with it.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I'm feeling fast, feeling strong, ready to go. Joe Burrow, great as always, man. seeing you. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. You bet. Make sure to check out the Dramon Green Show. I brought Dramon Green into the volume because one of the more entertaining voices in sports, unique perspective, understands behind the rope, also chops up with guests like Gary Payton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. Make sure download the Dramon Green Show wherever you get your podcast only on the volume podcast network. Another podcast from some has. SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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