The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Joe Burrow on Week 7 O Explosion, Browns D

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

First, (3:00) Colin explains why Russell Westbrook’s decline with the Lakers has been so dramatic, why LeBron isn’t equipped to hold Westbrook accountable, how the NCAA is finally putting guardrails up with the NIL, and why he’s not bothered by Aaron Rodgers publicly calling out his receivers. Then, Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow joins Colin to discuss if he had a hunch the Cincy offense was set for a huge day against the Falcons in Week 7 (15:00), how defenses have adapted their game plan over 7 weeks (21:00), what rule he would change if he was Commish (24:00), if it’s been hard to go dark on social media (25:00), his relationship with Browns CB Denzel Ward (27:00), how he's preparing for for Myles Garrett and the Browns defense (29:00), which opposing teams alternate uniforms he likes (2nd to the Bengals all whites) (35:00), why he's not a yeller in the mold of Tom Brady (38:00), how he's developed great communication with Ja'Marr Chase even when he wants more touches (41:00). Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates, check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action, and visit Cuts for the latest Fall fits! #Herd #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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was a stock, you'd essentially be buying self-awareness, that you get an honest set of eyes and ears on your personality and your problems. And my wife's very good at that. She does a lot of therapy. is that because most of us, even successful people who have good lives, what initially helps us becomes a burden or a hindrance. And Westbrook's a prime example of this. Westbrook was always hyper athletic.

And though a lot of people doubted him, he never doubted himself. He had this single-mindedness and this belief in himself. And it's why he's going to end up a Hall of Famer. he's really one of the most willful players in the league i mean ucla couldn't figure out how to use him people couldn't figure out is he a two guard no he can't shoot is he a a point guard yeah but he's not he's not naturally a great ball handler he doesn't have as you well know if you watch him he didn't have great hands but he's a great athlete and he willed himself to a hall of fame career but now it's hurting him magic johnson said this on a recent interview with shannon sharp of fs one

Magic said, you got to own your stuff. You can't keep blaming the media and the fans. I don't think it's in him. I don't think it's within Russell Westbrook's personality. Is that what made him a Hall of Fame level player is now a hindrance, is that he is so singular minded that and his belief in himself is so strong, he can't acknowledge weakness. And listen, I loved Kobe Bryant. but he was the most driven human being arguably in the league's history. And in the end, he broke up Shaq and Lakers and Kobe and Phil.

He pissed everybody off. And I think it's a really valuable lesson. By the way, I love LeBron. But the greatest stat with LeBron ever is that from his junior year to his senior year in high school, he only averaged one more point a game. Now think about that. LeBron averaged like 24 points a game as a junior and 25 as a senior. I think those are the numbers. You don't think he could have averaged 50.

But LeBron has always been about elevating others. That's why he's a great teammate. But he's also never been confrontational. He's never swung a punch. He's never gotten involved in a fight. He's the ultimate peacemaker. And it actually hurts him now. He's not confrontational with Westbrook.

Kobe would be, Michael would be, Bird would be. It's not magic would be. It's not in LeBron's makeup. And so it's why you need people to push back. I mean, look at Tom Brady. He is so driven that it's now blowing up his marriage. You know, he's 45.

There's nothing to accomplish. I mean, I like success too. I'd call it a day. I'd be very satisfied with it, leaving as the goat. But I just think. I think it's Westbrook's kind of a cautionary tale of you get rich, something that elevates you actually later becomes a bit of a problem. And it's why it's really important to surround yourself with people that ask tough questions,

that hold you accountable, that don't say yes all the time. Second thought, so when the name, image, likeness, law was passed. And you could pay college athletes. It was a bit of a mess because of the lack of leader. ship by the NCAA. And, you know, this happens in technology. It happens in a lot of different sectors where something's introduced to the market. The market's not quite ready for it.

It's an avalanche. It's out of control. So the NIL, it wasn't intended to buy high school players, but that's what happened. Texas A&M was at the forefront of that. Buying, I trust my sources, multiple high school players for seven figures. Now the program's blowing up. that you have multiple freshmen, reportedly they were smoking pot in the locker room before a game. Whether or not that's true and that's all over the internet, the program now is a loose,

undisciplined mess. And that's why there is a process to things. I've always said about the name image likeness legislation and rules. I would never pay high schoolers. It should be only for players who have been. in your program for at least a calendar year. High schoolers don't get it and freshmen don't get it. That a player has to put 12 months in your program, any sport,

and then their final two, three, or four years at school, they can be compensated. Okay. So that means even if you want to be sneaky to a high schooler, you still can't pay them for over half a year or over a year. If you want to be sneaky with a high schooler, you can't pay them for over a year. year and a half from the day he signs or orally or verbally commits. So the Texas A&M issues are not

profound, nor are they unexpected. You pay high schoolers seven figures. You think you may have an issue. You think you may have some entitlement or egos. Eventually, the name image likeness will settle down just like the transfer portal and college football will be fine. But it was a very obvious problem, the NCAA, although they had a 10-year start to put a fence around it because it was the discussion for the last decade about paying athletes that didn't have the right leadership. All of a sudden it's introduced and legalized and they can't get their arms around it. but slowly and surely, as we predicted, the borders will close a little bit. There'll be limitations, rules, caps.

And NIL should be for people that have already put at least a year on your campus, man, woman, any sport. And they become productive members of your athletic department. Then pay them for as long as you want and pay them as much as you want. Pay them $10 million a year for three years. I don't care. I wouldn't put limitations on the amount. I would put restrictions on the timeline. Right.

Even the NFL's got trading deadlines and salary caps. It's okay if they don't get paid as juniors or seniors in high school. So Aaron Rogers came out on his weekly guest spot on the Pat McAfee YouTube show and called out. It's not what I would do. I don't think it's what young receivers and teammates need called out young players making too many mistakes. He said, quote, we should cut reps. It's not one or two. It's 10 or 12 a game.

Here's the thing about Aaron Rogers. I can't beat him up too much for this because I'm always praying pro athletes are honest. He had no problems sharing his opinions right or wrong on the vaccine. he's been honest about taking a psychedelic tea. He's honest about how pisty is at his teammates. And at some point, I'm begging for everybody in sports to be this honest. I mean, I would be more political. If I was a quarterback of a football team and I had young players struggling with confidence,

I would not call them out. I would fall on the sword. You know, I'd blame myself. I think that's the better way. way to grow. But that's not who Aaron is. You know, he doesn't sacrifice a lot in his life. He's 38 rich, never married, no kids, doesn't walk the dog or pick up crap. Right? Like, Aaron's going to do what Aaron wants to do. And I will say this. Quarterbacks come in all different shapes and sizes and styles and opinions. Aaron does a wonderful job of providing content for shows

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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. All right, let's bring him on. You know, I am America's most trusted journalist. That goes without saying. But I got to be honest with you. I'm not supposed to root for people.

But shit, when Joe took a 21-0 lead, I'm like, boom, going to be a good podcast on Tuesday. Joe's going to be in a good mood. I got to be honest. I'm sitting there thinking, yeah, I like what I'm seeing. Joe's going to be, Joe can get a little ticked off if he doesn't have. Did you know, did you know, though, week prep pregame? Do you ever sense, man, all this stuff on film works?

Did you have a sense it was going to be a big early performance? Yeah, Jamar and I had talked about it the day before. We kind of felt like it was going to be an opportunity, one of those games that we had a chance to put up some good numbers. And so we had talked about that the day before. We kind of had a feeling it was going to happen. When you have a huge lead in the game at half, what does Zach say at half?

What do you say? Yeah, I mean, we really treated the same way as a halftime that we're losing. There's not a lot of motivation. We're only in there for, I think it's like seven minutes. And so, you know, you're going to the bathroom. You're eating your bananas or whatever. you know, everybody eats something at halftime, then you're hydrating. And the coaches are going over adjustments.

And then you sit down and you go over those adjustments, then it's time to go back out. So there's not a lot of time for that. The, you know, it's interesting. I said, because you do the podcast and Draymond Green does, whenever I say something nice about you or Draymond Green, people are always like, oh, it's just because it's part of your business. And I'm like, yeah, because Draymond Green's terrible and Joe Burrell's terrible. Give me a break.

But it is interesting. I asked somebody in my family. I've got three girls in my family. And they were like, oh, my God, Joe Burroughs so cute. And I was like, oh, bro, slow down. So do you sense your popularity like growing? Do you, I mean, obviously in your hometown, but do you kind of sense you're becoming a thing here now?

You know, fortunately for me, I have people around me that keep me kind of out of that. And like I said, I don't get out much, so I don't really like to experience that part of it. I'm more of a homebody that just likes to play football.

I'm a homebody. So I started a movie on Netflix the other day or a series that was awful. I quit. I won't give anything. Like, I'm a 15-minute guy. If it's bad after 15 minutes on Netflix, I'm wiping it. In your

television viewing, Are you patient guy, impatient guy? Very patient. You'll go like five in, even if it's average? Yeah. Oh, you're my wife. Yeah. Really?

Yeah, you never know. Really? Yeah. So the other day I watched something called The Watcher. Have you heard that? Yeah. You watched that. Yeah, I did.

40 minutes in, out, bored the hell out of me. You watched the whole thing. Yeah. I watched the whole thing. Okay. did you make of the ending? Disappointed. That's what everybody's saying. I want to watch it just to get the crappy ending. I don't really want to watch it. But I hear it's a weird ending. So I want to talk about Albert Breer was on my show on FS1. And he said he talked to your dad and your dad tells a story he

has video of when you were eight years old and you did some quarterback sneak and it went for a touchdown. And your dad had this sense very early that you had a certain quality that you, you know, you just kind of, Breer and I talked about this, whereas Josh Allen walks into a room and just looks different. And Mahomes has got this goofy sidearm crazy, flashy style. You are not as physically gigantic. And a lot of your throws are, you know, I've seen before. There's a guy in the pocket.

You have a certain style. A lot of people talk about, oh, I could sense it with Joe. But I'm like, well, Ohio State he moved on. And the first year at LSU, you know, it was. choppy. So when did you self-identify? Like, I can remember going to college and knowing that I cared way more about broadcasting than even the juniors and seniors. I was addicted to it. I was taping crap at night. When did you self-identify and go, I, this means more to me. I'm good at it. Was it eight, 12, 18?

I kind of was just always a very competitive person. And, you know, whether it was football, baseball, or basketball, I always kind of roused the challenge of being the guy at the plate, hitting the final free throws to win the game. And I was always just kind of good in those moments. I'm not quite sure what it was, but I just feel like the game slows down to me. in those crunch time moments, whatever it happened to be. Do you get nervous?

Before the games, for sure. I do. But then, you know, when you're out there, you're just relying on your training. There's no time to sit back and think about whether you're nervous or not. There's 40 seconds on the game clock, sometimes 25, and you're just out there relying on muscle memory and the reps that you got in practice. What do you get nervous about? Not about anything in particular. It's just the energy and the excitement in your stomach that you're feeling leading up to game day.

When early in this year, teams were taking things from you. And we say this on our show, Monday is overreaction day. And it's all a process. You come into the season. You're trying to get your body right, your O line right. you get it right. They take stuff away. It's a chess match.

Do you feel the defense you saw this weekend is different than the defense you saw in week one, two, three? Tell me what you're seeing at the line. Is it changing it all week to week? You know, every team has their own little spin on it. But for the most part, teams are still playing us the way they have been. The difference in our wins is that, you know, we jump out to an early lead. or we're hanging in there, moving the ball, and then the defenses have to be a little more aggressive.

And so then we're able to take our shots in those moments. One of the things, I think the NFL is really good at changing stuff. The catch rule. It was just too, it was too confusing to me. I had Roger Goodell on. I said, I don't even understand what a catch is, and I'm a gigantic football fan. I don't like the preseason. College kids have 17 hours.

They have midterms. They don't have a preseason. And I've watched teams Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Oregon. I've seen teams be great in their first game. The preseason is a chance for you to get hurt. And frankly, nobody's playing starters. We have three games left. But by not playing in preseason, you had a pretty rough opener.

If you ran the league, I asked Brady this once. If you ran the league, I'm going to ask you two questions. What would you do to preseason? I would continue to just make it shorter, like one or two games. But it is a great chance for young guys to go out there and give an opportunity. So you got to take that into account too. I think three is a pretty good number. And usually how starters have been doing it is they play a little bit in game one,

they play a little bit more game two, and then game three, they're not playing at all. I would subscribe to that, probably, now that I'm thinking about it. But every team has their own way of doing it. And I can completely see why we don't play players in the preseason. A lot of teams across the league aren't. It's a great chance to get injured. I mean, the more you're out there playing,

the better chance you're going to get injured in a game that doesn't count towards your record. So, you know, it's a tough balance. Second question. If you were commissioner and could change one rule, that you just, I already know mine, I'll let you go first, you could change one rule. Offensive and defensive holding would be the same penalty. Defensive holding is only five yards.

Offensive holding is 10 yards. I just think it should be the same. Okay. I think college does a better job with pass interference. I don't think it should be like a spot foul where, oh, it's a four, a guy gets his leg tangled. You're running, the receivers are the best athletes in the world. The corners could be first or second best.

You're both running a 4-4. You go down the sideline, you trip, and it's a 49-yard penalty. Spoken like a true defensive guy. You like it? I like it. Because, I mean, if you're throwing a go-ball and Jamar Chase is about to break free 40 yards down the field and you just tackle him, but people are going to do that every time. It's only a 15-yard penalty, and it's a, you know, he's going to go and get that ball.

So it's been several weeks since you had your media sign-off. How's that going for you? Is it hard? No, it's great. It's a little harder to answer interview questions because I don't really know what's going on in the world of sports other than what people tell me at the facility. But I've been enjoying it. So I used to live in a town called Manhattan Beach, California. Halloween is a big deal. A big deal.

So you're from Athens. I am told Ohio there is a legendary Halloween celebration. Explain. It's a college, just like a college block party for Halloween. Everyone gets dressed up. It's a good time. Oh, come on. That's it.

It's just there's nothing special? I mean, it's Ohio University is kind of known as a school that people like to go to to have an alcoholic beverage or two. Oh, yeah. And the block parties are pretty fun. Yeah, it's a drunk fest. So is Chico State. Listen, there are colleges that are known for drinking. Arizona State.

Yeah. They drink. Brady doesn't drink in the season. Would you have, you know, you're playing Sunday, Tuesday, you're hanging out. Would you have a beer? No, I don't particularly enjoy drinking at all. I do it maybe once, twice a year. Wow.

But definitely not during the season. How did you live in Baton Rouge? Wow. My God. Yeah. I just really don't like that. like how it makes me feel, to be honest, so I don't partake in it usually. Are you, I remember one time being in a drive-thru, and Andre Agassi had just won, like,

the U.S. Open or some big tennis tournament. And he was in the Taco Bell drive-thru in Las Vegas. And I'm in a Hummer, I think he had a Hummer. I remember thinking, that's how Andre Agassi eats? I was just like totally taken back by it. He'd like, and I mean, he got a tray of food. And at this point in your life, you could eat poorly. Like, what's the line between like caring about it and not being neurotic about it? Like, give me your, Joe, give me your average day of eating. Lay it out. I eat four times a day.

I have a chef that prepares my meals. I usually have one day a week where I kind of eat what I want. You know, chicken wings. all that good stuff. But, you know, six days a week, I'm pretty regimented. And nobody had to teach you that. Like, you just got it. Well, I really made the change after my knee injury, my rookie year, and really helped in the recovery process, took out all the inflammation in my knee, all the swelling, made it feel better. And so that's kind of when I understood the power of diet.

Yeah. So you play the Browns on Monday Night Football, which it's a division game. It'll be close. It always is. I really like Cleveland's corners. I think they're great. Denzel was in my class at Ohio State. He's a great dude, great player. When did you know he was going to be great? Freshman sophomore year? Yeah. Our true freshman year at Ohio State, they had him on kickoff and he was running like 22 and a half miles per year. hour down there and making tackle after tackle. And we kind of figured he was going to be a pretty good player. He's a smaller player. When you attack Cleveland, Miles Garrett may be the best defensive player in the league. They have great corners. Take me through without giving up game plan secrets in the games against Cleveland.

When a team has elite corners, and I think they're really good. Are you a stayaway guy, a challenge guy? Where do you go on that? I mean, the duo that they have on the outside is one of the best in the league. They got Judeavian Clowny and Miles Garrett both on each side. So those guys have been, you know, top pass rushes in the league for the last five years. And so you always have to be aware that those guys are going to wreck the game at some point if you let them. And so you got to chip them.

You got to get the ball out quickly. But, you know, the guys I have on offense, I'm not going to be afraid to challenge any corner in the league on the out. side. This week's gold medal performance goes to a team who's making moves in the NFC. San Francisco picked up another weapon, a toy Christian McCaffrey, headed to the Niners. The Niners are all in. San Francisco has no idea what the future holds with quarterback Trey Lance, but they clearly think they can win a Super Bowl with Jimmy G in this roster. With Brady and Rogers struggling and aging, the NFC's wide open and now the Niners might be on top. This week's goal. This week's Gold medal performance is sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals.

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I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

So here we are. We're seven weeks in. You played your best football game. Your defense is the most underrated in the league because you don't have a ton of pro bowlers but everybody can ball, everybody can play. Like, you face that, how often do you face your defense in practice ones on ones? During the season, not at all, but training camp is always

a battle. Okay, explain that. Not at all. No, not during the season. On the bi-week, I think we get some seven-on-seven, but you don't want to, you only get a certain amount of reps during the week because it's such a long season. going to keep your bodies fresh. And so you don't want to, I don't want to say waste, but you don't want to waste reps

that you could be getting against a scout team who's running the defense you're going to be facing on Sunday when you're going against your defense so you're not going to be facing on Sunday. And so you never want to want to waste those reps. Do you guys, what's the rule in the NBA on physical contact and pads during the season? You can have one padded practice a week. and then I think starting week 12 or 13, there's no more padded practices, something like that.

Go back 15 years in football, it was completely different. Do you feel like the league takes better care of you? Absolutely. And I mean, my body, Zach and our coaching staff and our strength staff do a great job of, you know, using the data, using the science and, you know, altering practice here and there for, for certain reasons if guys have played a ton of stabs on Sunday, maybe we'll have an extra walkthrough period here or there. And so they do a great job of that.

All right. Finally, you're pretty good on style. I'm not. I'm from Seattle. I hate the Seahawks bright green uniforms. I'm a blue guy. I think they're classy.

I think they're traditional. But I like the Bengals all whites. Yeah. If I said to you, give me three uniforms. in the NFL you think are tight. You can't use the Bengals, but you literally think that's a good looking, that's a good looking setup.

Well, obviously, I have to say our new uniforms are awesome. I've always liked the 49ers uniforms. Those are just classic Saints uniforms. I was a Saints fan growing up. Those are sick. And I've been liking the dolphins lately.

The dolphin blue. Yeah, pretty good. Now, there's got to be one you're not into. I'll just say it right now. Jaguars doesn't work for me. I'm sorry, I apologize. I agree with that. I can agree with that. You know what it feels like to me? Like an alternative league. Like it should have, it would have been great in the USFL, right? It just feels alternative. I like their old uniforms. What were those? Back with David Gerard and those guys. do you ever think you know Aaron Rogers California guy like there's not a lot of New Yorkers

that become great NFL quarterbacks it's a lot of regular kids do you ever think to yourself God what if I'd have grown up a surfing in Malibu or some wall I mean I think it's your upbringing has everything to do with your character and a lot to do with your mental toughness I think the the more adversity and the more structured and the more discipline your life has the better you're going to turn out in the long run

and I think it really has a correlation with quarterbacks because that's I mean that's what the position is it's leadership it's being able to bring people together it's taking care of your own business and it's not being a distraction off the field and so that's you got to have all your your peas and cues and

all that real tight because otherwise it's going to end up showing up on the field. You know, Brady barks and Brady's been barked at. You're not a big barker. How do you deal with being barked at? I just think that, I mean, I can deal with it. I'm a, I'm a person that doesn't mind being coached that way, but I think there's a more effective way to coach and there's more effective ways to get information across than yelling. So I've never been one. To do that, you know, as a quarterback, you got to understand all of your guys that are on the team and in the locker room and understand, you know, how you talk to one person.

You might not be able to talk like that to another person in the locker room. And you got to really understand the people so you can bring the most out of them. How do you learn that? You just got to spend time with them. You got to sit with different people in the lunchroom, talk to different people on the field. and a byproduct of doing that is become very close and create a lot of new friends that you wouldn't have before

and make the locker room a much more friendly and closer environment. How does Jamar respond? What's the best way to talk to him? You just talk. I mean, he's a really smart football player, so you just go and, I mean, we're really good friends. We're not, what's understood doesn't need to be said between us.

We give each other a look. like hey, that was my bad, and we both know the look. If he thinks he needs to get the ball a little bit more, he'll give me a little look. We trust each other enough that if we need to say something to each other, we definitely will. And there's been multiple times he comes up to me, he's like, hey, give me the ball a little bit. And we have that trust that never goes the wrong way. Do you, I think about this. Do you ever feel like during a game?

Wow. A tease. I'm not giving him looks. Do you, not that you would force it, not that maybe guilt, but are you ever in a game thinking, God, I've just literally ignored him for two quarters? No, not really. And that's what's great about. I mean, we have three number ones receivers and none of them really care about that.

I mean, at the end of the day, they want some touches in their yards, but they never show. it on their face. They never, you know, say anything about it because I think that they know that they have the trust in me to read the defense to get the ball where it's supposed to go. And in the end, it's going to even out. You know, one game, Jamar's going to have a big game. And then maybe the next game, the defense is trying to take that away. And so T will have a big game. And then maybe another, the middle of the field is open because they're worried about those two guys on the outside. And TB will have a big game. Like last one, one. And so they have that trust in me that they know the ball's going to go where it's supposed to.

Do you feel that Zach Taylor doesn't have to coach you as much now? It's three years together. Do you feel like sometimes you look at him and go, I got this. I know what you're going to say? Yeah, we know each other well enough by now. You know, he's great at understanding that, you know, I put a lot of work in and I go out there and make a check. Maybe it doesn't work. And we come off and talk about it. like men and understand where we could get better than next time. And so he does a great job of communicating the information in a professional way. Give me the similarity or biggest difference, your dad to Zach as a coach. You know, I really don't know how my dad was as a coach.

He didn't really bring that home. He was a dad first. And, you know, I didn't really see that side of him much. I was around the program, but I didn't see that side too much. Joe Burrell, good seeing you. Congrats. Good luck against the brownies. Yes, sir.

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