The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - MNF Reaction, Fields Auditioning For Another Job, Winning Didn’t Help Bears, Frank Reich Fired
Episode Date: November 28, 2023Colin reacts to an ugly win for the Bears over the Vikings on Monday Night Football! He reiterates that the Bears need to move on from Justin Fields, why Fields could still find success with another t...eam, and suggests a potential suitor in the NFC South (3:00). He also looks at the Bears options with the likely #1 pick and another potential top 10 pick (5:30). He also weighs in on the Carolina Panthers firing Frank Reich, why the uber-rich owners in the NFL are far less patient when it comes to coaching staffs and how it will stunt the growth of Bryce Young (8:45). (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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mess between the Vikings and the Bears. Well, there is a direct correlation between quality of
quarterback play and quality of game. Trevor Lawrence against C.J. Stroud. Pretty damn entertaining.
Joshua Dobbs and Justin Fields. Drek. At this point, Justin Fields is auditioning for another job.
So he's not consistently productive enough, doesn't consistently win enough, isn't consistent enough, isn't consistent enough.
isn't consistently healthy enough to pass on Caleb Williams, who is a better prospect than
Justin Fields is or was. And you also get to restart the clock. It's not hard. There's no reason to
continually capitulate those two fumbles by Justin Fields. Almost every pass, you know, he had one
big pass, maybe two, the entire game down the field. Everything's like near the line of scrimmage.
I think, you know, one of the things my takeaway is I don't consider Minnesota to have
you know, a world-class defense. I don't think he sees the field terribly well. And by this time,
you need to. You know, some guys walk into this league and they have it figured out very quickly,
and some don't. And C.J. Stroud is a great example of you got it or you don't. And he has a
very shaky run game, a rookie defensive coach, a first-time play caller, a pretty average,
the below-average roster. And he sees the field, lets it rip and delivers the ball accurately. Some
have it, some don't. So I think Justin Fields is talented enough.
to garner or like a second or a third round pick, put him on an offensive staff with some weapons
like Atlanta. You know, he's from Georgia. I think it'd be fun to watch. I'd watch. This is more
of a defensive culture. I mean, Matt Eber Fluse may not be your favorite coach or mine, but the
Bears have the number one run defense in the league. I don't think they have the best run personnel
in the league. I don't think they have as good a defensive personnel as Baltimore, San Francisco,
Philadelphia. But they're the number one run defense in the league. That goes on Matt Eber
of Luce's resume, whether they keep him or not, he's a defensive coach and has shown some stride,
some real growth on the defensive side of the ball. I do think Justin Fields would be better
served with an offensive coach and an offensive leaning culture. Atlanta with Bijon Robinson,
Drake, London, Kyle Pitts. Pretty good old line. A weaker division, perhaps. But, you know,
Justin Fields is auditioning. There's no reason to capitulate. There's only two types of
quarterbacks who usually end up raising trophies. Stars. Justin Fields is not that. Or very,
very, very talented rookie quarterbacks or very, very, very talented young quarterbacks on a rookie
deal. And you've got to make a decision here pretty quick if you're going to pay Justin Fields or not.
And again, there's just not consistent enough, doesn't throw the ball down the field accurately,
consistently enough. No reason to argue about it. But good enough, talented enough to get a second shot.
There's nine, ten teams every year that are looking for a quarterback.
Never forget those numbers.
Over 50 quarterbacks on average playing the NFL now.
You need quarterbacks.
You need talent in the building.
And he's a big kid that runs well, can make plays.
But, you know, in a strange way, winning to Chicago's going nowhere, does them no favors tonight.
You know, they want to have, they're going to get Carolina's pick.
So they're going to take Caleb Williams.
And you'd like that other pick, you know, to be somewhere in the five, six range.
so you can get, they don't need a left tackle.
They could probably use, there's one great rush end.
You know, Matt Eber Fluse, I could see them if he retains his job and the GM retains his job
going after a defensive player.
But we know there's three or four quarterbacks that are going to go early.
Marvin Harrison's going to go early.
There's two offensive tackles that are going to go early.
And one or two defensive players.
So he's auditioning.
That's fine.
But there's no reason to go back and forth.
on it, right? At this point, consistency,
health, production, wins, just not enough of it. It's okay. It's okay. The average
NFL draft gives us one big-time quarterback annually. That's about it. You have the occasional,
rare, you know, two guys hit. There's been a few historically, three do, and there's been several
where none hit. But it's about one a year. And that's, now, you would think it would be more,
And I do think the bow necks, Caleb Williams, Drake May, Michael Pennix, Jaden Daniels, LSU class.
It's pretty good.
That's a pretty good class.
I can see two guys hitting.
But very rarely do you have a player.
And I think Caleb Williams could be the exception.
Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, good enough to overcome some early chaos.
I don't think Justin's there.
And I think we all know it.
So he's auditioning.
Caleb Williams will be the guy.
And Kayla's a better player.
sees the field better, just as athletic, more accurate thrower on a consistent level.
We'll see.
But I don't trust Chicago to do the right thing.
I mean, if there's, I've said this before, they've been around for 100 years of franchise.
They've never had one great consistent quarterback for any duration, which is, you can't even get your arms around that.
They've never done it.
I mean, at least the Lions had Matt Stafford for over a decade.
I mean, you look at Washington.
They had Sonny Jurgensen, had Joe Thysman.
Washington's won multiple Super Bowls, multiple quarterbacks with Joe Gibbs.
You know, Doug Williams, what a Super Bowl.
Chicago just, I mean, it was Rex Grossman for five minutes, Jay Cutler for a few years.
They don't do quarterbacks very well.
It's a defensive culture.
They're still living off the 85 Bears.
But I do think maybe in the 70s, 80s, Justin Fields would get another year in Chicago,
but that's not the way the world works anymore.
And that's my second topic, David Tepper firing Frank Reich.
I have talked about this and about the low hit rate on quarterbacks in the NFL.
And I think a lot of it is the business side of the NFL.
All these owners are now billionaires.
So they look at a coaching contract where they owe a coach $70 million, $60 million, $50 million.
It's a rounding error.
It wasn't when owners were making, you know, $25 million a year and had a net worth of $400 million.
They would not just write off a coach after 12 games, 13 games.
But now these guys are all worth $6 billion, $14 billion, $20 billion.
David Teper is, I think, first or second, third richest owner.
He's just going to write it off.
And so what happens is Bryce Young now gets another coordinator, another staff, another system.
And that will stunt the growth of Bryce Young.
And I think part of why all these young quarterbacks, Tom Brady talked about the league, football's not as good as it was years ago, because there was more stability.
It's hard enough to be a quarterback in this league.
I mean, Bryce Young, he got a new coach, new system, new coordinator, new quarterback coach.
He's not even through year one.
They already got rid of their guy.
And so I think when something is hard to do, franchise quarterback play in the NFL, and then you add chaos and change.
change to it makes it twice as tough. So, you know, Tom and Tom Brady said, you know,
quality of play in the NFL's worse, ownership is richer, more impatient, more meddling,
more impulsive, more willing to make radical and quick changes, which makes it harder to
quarterback. It doesn't make it harder to be a good running back or a good corner or a talented
left tackle. The quarterback is all about coaching and system and momentum and protection and
chemistry and choreography. And if you're constantly changing coordinators, I've said this about Justin
Herbert. He's on his third coordinator and his second head coach. What is he in year five? There's a lot of
change. And it just makes it really difficult. So I don't think, I think there's a direct correlation
to quality of quarterback play and quality of football. You know, in a great example, I mean,
I think a really great example of this is C.J. Stroud. Nobody wanted to watch the Texans, the last seven or
eight years, six or seven years. C.J. Stroud, now, they play Jacksonville this weekend. Highly
entertaining. Highly entertaining. I mean, Russell Wilson gets the right coach. I like watch the Denver
Broncos now. Young, tough defense. They can throw the ball. They run. They power run it. They've got
Mims. They've got Jerry Judy. They got Cortland Sutton. They have capable tight ends. I like their
running backs. Denver all of a sudden, same roster as last year. But the quality of quarterback
efficiency has gone up. Broncos are now a fun watch.
Broncos were like, okay, they can move the chains.
They've won five straight.
It's all the same players six weeks ago.
It's all the same players last year, except the left tackles here and healthy.
But I don't think the quality of plays worse in the NFL.
I think the impatience of owners and the constant influx of change has made it harder to be a franchise quarterback as a young quarterback.
And that's what it looks like.
Drek, uneven, inefficient.
It's not good.
But when you get good quarterback play, Jalen hurts Josh Allen, it's great television. It's fantastic television. You know, I went to watch Bonix, Oregon, play Michael Pennix Washington. It's one of the best college games I've ever been to. I watched Matt Leiner at USC play Vince Young, Texas years ago, years and years and years ago. It's one of the best college games I've ever seen. So, you know, you can have the world's greatest athletes. New England with Brady, defensive culture, couldn't turn them off. Mac Jones, Bailey, unwatchable.
Simple as that. Football's not worse. Impatience is at an all-time high, top-down.
Put pressure on the coach, the quarterback, the coordinators. It's not good. Carolina, embarrassing, not good.
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