The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - NBA Finals Bets, Early NFL O/U’s with Chad Millman, Fake Q’s
Episode Date: June 2, 2022First, Fake Questions, Real Answers (3:00), including if the Celtics should be the Finals favorites, how Steph winning 4 titles would differ from LeBron’s 4, the most underrated Finals of all-ti...me. Then, The Action Network's Chad Millman and Colin discuss the best single bet for the Finals (12:00), which team the sharps are loading up on to win the series (15:00), if Steph could win Finals MVP (26:00). Then, Millman tells Colin if he’s Sharp or Square with his NFL Over/Unders for the Vikings (31:00), Cowboys (38:00), and Chiefs (40:00). Make sure you follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #herd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, everybody, and welcome in to our Thursday.
Day Morning podcast. Now, Chad Milman, the best props, the best bets of the NBA finals is joining
us in 10 minutes. But first, it's time for another edition of fake questions, real answers.
There's stuff I want to talk about, but don't want to wait for you to ask me.
Dear Colin, ESPN has metrics that say the Celtics have an 86% chance of beating the Warriors
in the finals. What say you? Well,
I said before the playoffs, there are no great teams, and that health could be the deciding factor.
If Robert Williams, the center for the Celtic, stays healthy, that's a huge edge because he has not been healthy on a consistent basis.
Remember, he missed a game against Miami and Bam, Otabayu, averaging 10 points, scored 31.
But the Warriors are not a team that scores a lot of points inside.
No player averages on the Warriors currently over seven points a game inside while the Celtics have three players averaging eight.
Translation, Boston will get more easy baskets in this series than the Warriors.
That's why I think many of the games will be close.
If Robert Williams is healthy, they'll get even fewer.
So I think the size and the health of Robert Williams are two huge factors.
I'll take Warriors in six.
I don't foresee any blowouts.
It's hard to blow out a great defensive team like Boston.
Dear Colin, if Steph wins four titles,
is that the same as LeBron winning four titles?
Well, I mean, I guess historically, that would be true.
But these are two different arguments.
LeBron is being argued as the greatest player ever.
I think with Steph, you're arguing he could.
created the best basketball culture ever. Offball movement, three-ball shooting, constant in-motion
offensively. LeBron has created briefly some cultures and then left them. Miami, Cleveland,
twice. That's not what Steph's about. Steph has built the greatest basketball culture
in the last, what, 20 years. And they both matter. Talent.
with no culture is the Brooklyn Nets.
Out in the first round the last two years.
Good solid talent with great cultures, the Miami Heat.
Got to a Game 7 and a Jimmy Butler jumper of getting to the NBA finals.
You need both.
There's an argument, though.
Culture trumps talent overall.
And that's what Steph's all about.
Dear Colin, what was the most underrated NBA final?
of all time. Well, I'll give you two teams and two finals, the Chicago Bulls and the Utah Jazz
in 1997 and 98. I think people sometimes forget how close those games were and often how Michael
Jordan struggled to get his 30 plus points. Listen, the Bulls and the Jazz were both super
successful. I think Utah's arguably the best team to never win a championship, but the games
were tight and low scoring. There were three games decided by four points or less. And then the
1998 finals were even closer. Five of the six games decided by five points or less. And a majority of
games in both finals were simply decided by Michael Jordan hitting a big shot with one to two
minutes left. The Utah Jazz in back-to-back finals, especially the second, gave the great
Michael Jordan and that bull's offense
fits.
His shooting percentage dropped,
his efficiency dropped.
And I think it was viewed
as potentially a disaster
for NBC.
Small market, Utah Jazz,
not a lot of glamour.
It ended up being the highest-rated
NBA finals ever.
David against Goliath, and if
you asked Jordan privately,
he would probably acknowledge
the toughest finals are
his life were those. Utah, Stockton, T. Bailey, the coach Jerry Sloan, Carl Malone, Brian Russell,
a deep bench. They were a handful, much more than people romanticized this series to be about
Michael in the shot. Back-to-back years, the Jazz gave the Bulls fits offensively.
Dear Colin, what do you make of Aaron Donald saying he's at peace with possibly retiring
for the Rams. He's got three years left. He's not retiring. When people say publicly,
this issue is not about the money. It's about the money. People say publicly, I am not bothered at all
by criticism. They're bothered by criticism. And when they say, I could retire tomorrow. They don't
really want to retire tomorrow. Aaron Donald's best year was four years ago. And Interior
your linemen age much quicker than quarterbacks.
I don't think he's the most important ram.
I think McVeigh's 1, Stafford 2, Cooper Cup 3,
Aaron Donald and the GM less sneed, probably 4.
But there's a price on what I'd pay for Aaron Donald.
He doesn't want to quit.
Just signed a deal for shoes with Kanye West,
hard to sell shoes as a retired athlete.
He'll play and he'll get paid.
Dear Colin, you are very much in favor of people wearing masks and now you've backed off.
What's wrong with you?
Well, I'm glad you asked.
Listen, I never try to go too deep or get too embedded in anything.
Sports opinions, life opinions.
Because if new information arrives, I'm going to pivot to the right side.
Initially, I thought masks mattered.
But if you look at data, it suggests that mandates with masks have not.
I just got back, as many of you know, a week vacation in Europe, Italy.
On the airlines, both there and back, you didn't have to wear the mask if you were having a cocktail or drinking water or going to the bathroom or eating.
that constituted roughly 40 to 50% of my trip.
It felt like to me, and my wife and I talked about this at length,
it was mostly cosmetic theater.
I'm not somebody willing to stubbornly stay on a side
if new information presents itself.
What's the point?
Don't you want to be on the right side?
There's a lot of things about COVID initially.
Even epidemiologists were guessing on.
Now, there's also people out there that are overly cautious.
We've all worked with them.
We have them in the family.
There's some people that are going to wear masks forever.
That is certainly they're right, and they shouldn't be mocked.
I just don't happen to be one of those people.
Dear Colin, listening to Adam Carolla and Bill Marr talking about Elon Musk going from a Democrat to a conservative.
And Bill Maher says, how can we stop brilliant people?
from flipping sides. Mars a liberal. My takeaway is a lot of people over the course of a lifetime
change sides. Now, for instance, in California, almost all my friends, in fact, all of them are
social liberals. But it's a highly regulated state, and they make it hard for small business.
So they tend to be fiscal conservatives and have from time to time voted for conservatives.
Generally speaking, I agree with Democrats on important things to me like,
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Because he doesn't demonize wealth. That's a big deal for me. Don't tell me I'm bad for society.
Doesn't mean I'm great every day. I'm certainly not hurting it. I'm flexible. Based on the candidate.
You go too far left or right? I'll go to the other side. And I think there's more people,
though you'll never see it on social media,
like me and like that,
then you think.
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All right, so I'm just going to,
I'm not going to waste any time here
because I'm going to tell you
the single best bet in the finals,
NBA finals right now.
And I feel so good about it.
I may bet some of my real estate on this,
and I am a bit of a tycoon.
when it comes to that. So here we go. Celtics plus one and a half in the first half of game one.
If you look at overly rested teams, which the Warriors are, and they're inserting Peyton returns,
Otto Porter returns, Andre Igwadala returns. So they add three players. They have this extended
period off. I'm not betting the game. Boston will come in. Boston got enough day. Boston.
off. It's mostly a young team, guys going into their prime. Boston leaves at half game one.
Strongest bet of the entire finals, I will not hear any dissension on this, but what's your thought?
I love that you and I did not discuss this before we started the podcast. I have made two bets
on the finals so far, and both of them will give you an indication of which way I am leaning,
which, by the way, is the opposite of what a lot of model.
are doing right now. I have made a bet on Steph Curry at plus 420 on Fandual to lead the series
in average points and threes. And I have made a bet on the Golden State Warriors minus one and a
half in the first half of game one. Not great.
Not great? Well, it depends. Like, you could be right or I could be right. You. You
You're a real estate tycoon.
You're a media tycoon.
You are ascendant.
I'm a guy who, you know, has already sold his business that is based in sports betting and, you know, spent my life doing this.
So we can let the listeners decide which way to go.
But I feel like I like the, look, I like the Warriors in game one overall at minus three and a half.
I do worry late in the game.
There is too much foul shooting variance.
Whereas in the first half, I like the Warriors to win.
in this game. There is less foul shooting variance in the first half. You're just not getting the
fouls at the end of the first half. It's playing sort of the way the game is supposed to play out.
I like the Warriors coming out strong, having had the rest, knowing the experience, knowing the
importance of getting out early in games like this, also knowing that what they do in the third
quarter dictates how they do in a game. And I know they don't want to go into the third quarter,
needing to have a massive burst the way they have had in other games because the Celtics are a better team.
They're their teams they've played, so it will be harder to make that comeback.
So I like the Warriors in the first half minus one and a half.
Yeah, you know, Celtic fans are saying, listen, we won back-to-back game sevens.
But Milwaukee and Miami, essentially, you defended one guy.
There was one elite score on both teams.
I was talking to, who was it the other day, an executive in the NBA,
and he said, you know, the problem facing Golden State is that because of their ball movement
and players off the ball, a lot of your defensive strategies just don't work.
So, and he said, Jordan Poole, Steph Curry, you know, Peyton, Wiggins, they have a lot of guys
that can have quick first steps that can beat you off the dribble.
He says, so they're hard to trap because they have a lot of guys.
I mean, God, Draymond.
average is six assists a game. He's a catalyst. And he was just saying, you know, a lot of things
that work against everybody else, you know, and his point was, look at the gap between Golden State
and Phoenix. And we thought Phoenix was excellent. And you can really defend them. And there's
real limitations. And Phoenix doesn't play well from behind because they don't shoot threes. He's like,
it's hard to marginalize the warriors. They do everything well. They're experienced. They
manipulate the refs. They manipulate your traps.
And that to me is the series.
I said this.
I think Boston could out play the Warriors in four games, and the Warriors win the series in five games.
I have, I like the Warriors in six.
I liked the Warriors, and I said this on the Favorites podcast and the Volume Podcast Network.
I had two guys on, Jason Timph, who hosts a podcast on your network and one of our action analysts for the
NBA, and they were both on the podcast telling me about why they thought the Dallas Warriors series
could be more competitive than it was.
All great logic, great reasoning.
And when it was over, I'm like, this is great.
It's Warriors and Five.
And as soon as the series for the Celtics and Warriors was settled, I thought to myself,
Warriors and Six.
And what you're getting a lot of chatter about right now is that a lot of models like the Celtics,
I've spoken to two or three guys, professional betters who have the models like in the Celtics.
I've spoken to more professional betters who are looking at the Warriors at minus 160 to win the series and loading up.
Just thinking, how are people, how are the Warriors not minus 200 in this?
Because if you look at the Celtics offense, it's not as coordinated as you would think.
And it's a lot of bull rush the basket.
It's a lot of perimeter shooting around, you know, perimeter shooting from the three.
And while defensively, they're amazing, what you just said holds true.
It's really hard to adjust against a constantly fluid warriors offense.
But also, like, I think there's recency bias on the Celtics winning game sevens and people
giving them more credit for that.
Instead of recognizing, dudes, if not for a Jason Tatum miracle last second layup against
the nets, you might.
not perform so well in that series. If not for Chris Middleton going out, you might not win
that series. If not for Jimmy Butler getting hurt, you might not steal a couple games. So
I am not looking at the Celtics thinking what you did in these multiple game seven wins
is heroic. I'm thinking you kind of let these teams stick around and didn't do what you
needed you to close them out and might have gotten some lucky breaks. So that's why I like the
Warriors. Yeah. You know, they also, Steph went to college three years, Clay three, pool two,
Draymon four, Wiseman played three college games. He struggled to adapt, is that when you look at
the college and pro experience, Steve Kerr is able to do so many things on both ends of the
floor. The IQ of this team for the Warriors, it like, it rivals all-time teams. I always thought the
Heedles between Bosch and Badiye and Allen and Wade and LeBron and Edanus Haslam and you're like,
that's a pretty smart team. There's a lot of games there.
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A win is a win.
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When I look at Golden State,
it's very rare that a dynasty is underappreciated.
But if not for falling apart physically against the Raptors,
and if not for one jumper by Kyrie,
what does this dynasty look like?
Now, the Patriots dynasty,
you can argue they could have lost every Super Bowl except the Rams.
Or they could have won every Super Bowl.
The Warriors have actually gotten terrible breaks in the finals.
Bogot gets hurt.
Draymond suspended.
Curry hurt.
Caves win.
I mean, I've never seen a team in a series fall apart like they did against the Raptors.
So I think sometimes we look at this team and I mean, they really invented the three ball avalanche, small ball.
Intellectually, they're kind not to be, it sounds so California smug, but they're kind of way ahead of everybody.
And I think when you go into a series, I mean, they completely discombobulated Dallas's offense.
And Dallas at the end of that series felt significantly better than Phoenix.
And Dallas felt lost to me.
I don't think Dallas ever figured out Golden State.
I felt, I thought, I thought they could have swept them.
And Dallas is mostly young.
So I just think there's a bandwidth with the Warriors.
It's very New England.
You could literally, you know, Damien Woody always tells the story.
When he was in New England, we practice a trick play for 14 weeks.
He was every effing week at practice.
And then we used it in week 14.
And it was one of those, oh, he's like, a lot of teams practice it.
They can't shelve it for two weeks.
Like they got to use it.
And he's like, we were just playing.
He goes, we were just playing a different level.
He goes, we had card tricks.
Other teams didn't have and we could use them at any time because our team was so smart.
And that's a long winded way of saying, I think if these games are close, I don't think
it's close.
I think one team has the ability to really limit the other.
trick the other and manipulate the other.
So you and I both agree, it sounds like, we like the Warriors to win this series.
So here's a couple things to think about as a better.
If you like the Warriors to win the series, then you got to think about, do you think
Steph has the best opportunity to be the MVP. He's never won it before. The MVP, as much as
anything, is a narrative award. It's a great topic, right? You talk about this, like, you are better
than anybody at creating a tree of what a topic is going to be and then letting branches come
off it. MVP in the NBA is a narrative award. People love to talk about it.
And really smart people think about who the voters are, right?
There's the TV contingent.
There's the West Coast contingent.
There's the beat writing contingent.
There's the people who have social media following.
There's the people who are hardcore beatwriters.
There's, you know, all of that kind of stuff.
So a lot of sort of MVP watchers think about the voting blocks when they're thinking about MVP.
Same holds true for NBA finals.
It's a narrative award.
Steph has yet to win the award.
Now, the truth is, Steph in the finals has.
had a really hard time, right? Because people key on him defensively. And look, Draymond on the podcast
has with you, has talked about like how important Steph is and the double teams he would get
that allowed, you know, Kevin Durant to sort of blossom in the finals. If you believe the
Warriors are going to win, then you have to believe Steph will have a dominant series and that he
wins the MVP. Steph's odds unfandle right now to be the MVP. They were at plus 120. Now they're
about plus 105. So if you like the Warriors to win the finals, you could just as easily bet on
Steph at plus 105 to win MVP and get better odds than bet in the Warriors at minus 160.
What do you think of that? No, I think you're right. I also, who would he compete against in that
space? Let's say Jason Tatum. But what the Warriors can do is send Draymond and Wiggins at Tatum.
Marcus Smarts to inconsistent of a score. So I think the Warriors think let Jalen Brown beat
us. We know Horford's not going to beat us. Marcus Smart's not consistent enough to beat us.
Tatum, if you lower his efficiency, like Lucas shot 48% against the Suns, 41 against the Warriors.
So Spencer Dinwiddie, had he shot well in the series, could have been a problem.
So I think the Celtics are like, Jalen Brown's going to have a really good series, and that will take some of the steam out of Jason Tatum.
because I think Wiggins is so undervalued because he's really the rare number one talent.
I mean, really is an incredibly twitchy athlete.
But in this culture, he's not an essential core player.
But yet, he was very disruptive to Luca because he can just go, you can put him right on Tatum and just say, he's such a twitchy athlete.
He doesn't buy your pump fakes because he's so quick.
He's so quick vertically.
He doesn't buy your fakes.
And so he just, he's in your face when you shoot. He lowers your shooting percentage. And so the other thing that helps Steph is his primary rival in the MVP, Williams doesn't score, smarts inconsistent. Man, up being Jalen Brown. And if it's close, nobody's giving it to Jalen Brown. Steph's going to win it because we want Steph to win it.
But also you got to like, it's also two different teams, right? If the Celtics win it, Jalen Brown could be a good bet. If the Celtics, it's going to be the whoever,
wins it, the player from that team is going to win. If the Celtics are going to win the series,
Marcus Smart has to be perfect because he will, for the most part, the Celtics do switch a lot
and the Warriors will try to get him into switches, but he will have to be on Steph. And if the
Celtics win the series, it's going to be because they stop Steph from getting hot, right? And that's
Mark is smart. So you could see a Mark is smart at something like 30 to 1. It's dropped from
45 to 1 because people are coming in and playing a little bit of the narrative game and sort of
the matchup game that you and I are doing right now. I think on the warrior side, if it's not
going to be Steph, the other guy to think about is Draymond. Because A, there's a great narrative.
There's nobody more accessible than Draymond. Dremon during the finals will come on his podcast,
We'll come on your podcast.
We'll go on the TNT show.
We'll say something in a post-game press conference that will elevate his status and make him a centerpiece of a conversation that complemented with the way he controls the pivot and gets the Warriors in the right position with his passes plus his defense and rebounding.
If the Warriors win and it's not Steph, I would put your money on Drayman.
I want to pivot to something, Millman.
I want to do some over-unders.
Now, I love over-unders.
Love them.
And it's not, some of these I would wait a little while based on injuries in camp.
But I have my favorite over of the NFL season.
So what the Miami Dolphins did in the off season was as a franchise pivot to the offensive side of the ball.
They spent their money on offense.
They got rid of a defensive coach who didn't get along with two.
So my first takeaway is I have, and I use that as an example with Tua, who I don't think is as good as Kirk Cousins.
So Mike Zimmer did not get along.
Flores and Zimmer were essentially fired because they didn't get along with their quarterback.
We know that Flores can coach and we know that Mike Zimmer can coach.
The Vikings over under is eight and a half and here's my sales job.
Detroit's Detroit actually has some nice.
offensive pieces, but with Kirk Cousins, let's say he has a 10 to 15% elevation in numbers,
reasonable considering they have now the McVeigh system.
The Packers, by the way, they open with the Packers.
Aaron not at OTAs has struggled with rookie receivers and new parts for years,
and they have four new wide receivers, either drafted or acquired.
I think it's five.
So that opening week game for Minnesota is one of my favorite.
It's my favorite bat in the opening weekend, take the Vikings.
Green Bay started slow last year.
Green Bay's had some ugly September games.
Aaron Rogers, brand new pieces offensively, a new right tackle.
It's like, interesting.
So Minnesota, offensive coach, Packers kind of guessing what the Vikings are doing offensively,
cousins elevated.
They're over under is eight and a half.
I think they'll be the most improved team in the league.
We still don't know what Chicago is.
We kind of know what Dan Campbell is.
The laundry coaches, the limitations become clear.
Minnesota, over eight and a half.
I'm generally an under better.
I have four other unders.
The one over I love is the Vikings over eight and a half.
Milman, what do you got?
I don't hate it at all.
I do think that we all go into every season thinking the Vikings are undervalued.
We love in years past, we've loved what Mike Zimmer can do with the defense.
We've loved how Mike Zimmer, in theory, can make his defense better as the season goes on.
We've loved how they would always end a year.
And so we're excited about what they can do in the next year.
So I think we're all sort of have a bias to the Viking because I think also in the media,
a lot of us believe Kirk Cousins is a good enough quarterback that he doesn't, he gets,
he gets too little credit for being good and too much blame for not being great in the highest
profile moments when everyone sees him.
But if you're betting, you know week to week he can deliver and he can put this team
in a position to win.
So I don't hate it.
The Vikings for what it's worth, according to our.
projections have the eighth easiest schedule in the NFL next year. So I don't hate it at all.
Would you like to guess on the team that started getting the most, the most overaction on their
season win totals? You know what I'm going to guess? Bears.
Right. It's the right, say, cohort of really terrible teams. But, uh,
New York Jets.
Oh, God.
I don't think Salah can coach.
I don't think he's a head coach.
The Jets are number one in tickets and money at Fandual and several other books.
We reported a few weeks ago, less than two weeks ago, the market is all about the Jets, said Fandual spokesman, Kevin Hennessey.
It's not close.
But this is why sort of, it's why the over-under totals, the wind totals have become such public markets.
This is entirely based on people deciding Zach Wilson is ascendant.
They've decided that the Jets, because they did the right thing and drafted talent and players in positions of need, and they fell into their laps in the draft because they were so bad they had high draft picks, they're going to be amazing because rookies always turn out great because that's what happens every time, right?
And so people love betting the over on the Jets right now.
Half their games last year, they looked unprepared.
Unprepared.
Not a single time in McVeigh's first year that I think that team's unprepared.
I think solid, listen, we know 75% of coordinators don't work.
I think he's over his skis.
I think he's a great DC.
I think he's over his skis.
It's interesting.
Look, I've heard your rant of.
about Sala before, don't disagree with it entirely.
I think it's a little early to tell on him.
What I disagree with you is Dan Campbell, where maybe I'm being blind or maybe I'm
just being emotional because I love the way he coaches.
I think he can turn this team into winners.
Not this year, but I think eventually.
I'm a buyer on the lines.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm a buyer at six and a half on Detroit.
First of all, their offensive personnel,
Hawkinson, D'Andre Swift,
Penaiseul left tackle,
cough's good enough,
Amaran St. Brown.
I think their offensive personnel,
it's pretty solid.
Now, their problem is a lot of stuff over the top,
give up a lot of big yards in the back end.
But I think in that division,
we don't know what Chicago is.
I've said, I think Minnesota wins their division.
I have real reservations about Green Bay.
I mean, to give you an example of Aaron Rogers' trust issues, Amari Rogers, the slot receiver from Clemson, had four catches last year.
I mean, this is a guy that had family trust issues, personnel trust issues, executive front office trust issues.
That's Aaron's personality.
He struggles with that, right?
Like, he really does.
So, okay, so let me give you my favorite under.
So the Cowboys are at 10 and a half.
I love the under here.
So the early schedule, what do we know about Dallas?
Season ended on a very iffy play call, quarterback draw, can't get up in time.
So Mike McCarthy enters the season on the hot seat.
They open with Brady and Burrow.
Then they've got to go on the road and face Philadelphia and the Rams.
So right now that tells you these are better teams and teams with momentum at the end of last year.
There's a chance they have three or four or five early losses in the first eight games,
and you're going to have a completely divided locker room.
Now, the schedule's got the Giants twice, and it's got Washington twice.
But I think Washington and Philadelphia are absolutely better.
And frankly, because Daibel and Daniel Jones, the Giants will be better.
Not great, but better.
They had a pretty good offseason.
So 10 and a half to me, you could almost bank in coaching disadvantages
throughout the early portions of the season.
McCarthy's getting ripped.
We know the edge rush, run game,
an O line isn't as special as two years ago.
Dallas under 10 and a half on a team that's always over bet
feels like a really solid play.
A hundred percent with you,
for everything you just said,
plus pull back and look at sort of the macro perspective,
the cowboys are, their win total is always inflated because they're the cowboys.
So the bookmakers know they can take a Cowboys team that shouldn't have more than nine
wins on the board that they might not see as being better than nine wins in a season.
They can make them 10.
They can make them 10 and a half because they know there are so many Cowboys fans out there.
They're just going to bet the over no matter what the line is.
So it's a great way for them to bank against some.
liability on the other side because there's a lot of public sentiment in the favor of the Cowboys.
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Any of these other over-unders in front of you?
I'm close to betting under on Kansas City 10.5.
I think it's going to be hard to win 11 in that division.
I don't.
To me, that's the most interesting one.
I'm glad you mentioned it because I'm looking at it right now.
that is a terribly hard division. Chargers,
chiefs, Raiders, Broncos,
like any one of those quarterbacks can win a game
no matter what the score is in the first half,
no matter what the position is for them in the final two minutes.
All these teams, Raiders elevated their pass rush.
Khalil Mack, Chargers elevated their pass rush.
Randy Gregory.
Totally.
So they will face three elite pass rushes.
You could go, I mean, if you go three and three in that division in your Kansas City,
I think everybody's going to do it.
I think this is the first time that I remember liking the Raiders.
I couldn't tell you the last time I liked the Raiders.
I think they're actually, Jesus, Hunter Renfro is arguably the most talented slot in the league.
Devante Adams, top two to three sideline receiver, Darren Waller after Travis Kelsey,
top six running back.
I've always loved car, solid left tackle, Colton Miller.
It's like two edge rushers.
What they have is they have the right, the important positions in 2022 football, left tackle quarterback, two receivers, edge rushers.
I mean, the Rams and Bengals had bad linebacking cores.
Rams had injuries at safety.
The interior of the O line for the Bengals wasn't good in the Super Bowl.
like there are positions now that matter a lot
and the Raiders have a lot of them covered
for the first time since I can remember
I think Denver's the best team in the division
I think Kansas City is a wild card team
I know it's it just goes against everything we believe
but I don't love their defense
I think Tyreek Hill
is kind of a field tilter
I'm not sure if you can replace that
I don't think they're quite as dynamic
I think you can defend them differently
and I don't think they can make,
I think they have the weakest pass rush in the division.
Feels like a 10 and 17.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I like the Chiefs under.
Incredibly hard schedule.
I don't know if I like the Raiders better than,
I don't know if I like the Broncos better than the Chargers.
If you're betting on someone to win that division that isn't the Chiefs,
because I do think the Chargers
have a little bit,
higher ceiling in terms of talent. Their defensive line is just better than the Broncos. I think they
match up receiver-wise with anybody else in the division. And I think Justin Herbert, just by virtue of
having a third year now, is going to be that much smarter and more effective. And I also think
they learned a lot from sort of the very cavalier way. They treated their possessions and not trying to
get points at times when they should have been getting points. And I think that for Brandon Staley,
the coach, who all of a sudden, like last year, you know, we saw it in one of those games against
Kansas City kept going for it on fourth and goal when getting points would have been the smart
thing to do. I think he's going to recalibrate his play calling a little bit, having learned a lot
in that first year and sort of what happens to your detriment if you don't get some points in
specific spots. Yeah, I didn't love all that. You know, I like my analytics.
to a degree, but, you know, I don't know.
And be...
I like my analytics unless it's costing me a side that I need,
either in a total or in a cover.
And in that game, the chargers were by far the right side at like plus three and a half.
And they ended up losing in overtime and nobody covered.
And it was just, it was hurtful.
It was genuinely hurtful.
All right.
So right now we're going into summer in West Hartford, Connecticut for you.
summer in Los Angeles for me. I had a lot of good summers running around the reservoir.
What's on the town for the Millman family this summer? I'm going to Switzerland and in August with my
wife. We are going to Italy for two weeks, which is going to be amazing. Me, my wife, are two kids,
one of whom's in college, and did say, so you're expecting me to go on the trip, right, as if that
was going to be optional because he wants to be with us so little. And then my sister, her husband,
and their three kids. There's going to be nine of us through Florence, a part of Tuscany and Rome.
My wife loves Florence. My wife would absolutely spend springs in Florence, great walking city.
It's amazing. It's truly transcendent. All of Italy will be great.
I'm really excited about that.
Here's something that you would find interesting.
My wife and I had COVID last month.
We have a 15-year-old son who lives with us because the other one's in college.
The 15-year-old son, it's proof of how little your teenagers want to spend time with you and can ignore you.
He never got COVID.
Both of us in the house, full COVID, he found a way to ignore us often enough that he never got COVID.
Yeah, kids
I think my kids like me
But there's no proof of it
Yeah
I think your kids like you too
And they will never show you proof of it
I assume my kids like me
But
They're kind of assholes sometimes
And
you know
They're expectations of what is to be
Like
Of
of how we are supposed to give
to them without them having to give back are very high. Well, my wife said, you will love your kids
more than they will love you. And your kids' kids will love their kids more than they love
them. That's just, you've got to come to terms of that that's the reality of being a parent,
regardless of generation. How many kids will go with you on your trip to Switzerland?
Oh, none. It's just the two of you. Well, now that I've been to Italy with my wife and
I am her Italian lover.
We don't have time for kids.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So the way we look at it is we give them a summer vacation.
We're going to Turks and Kikos this summer, Nantucket next summer.
We always give them one big vacation together.
They can bring friends.
And then we get our vacation, May and then late August.
And we're not guilty about it.
I'm not guilty at all about it.
You shouldn't be guilty about it.
You've earned it.
You're a tycoon.
You vacation where you want a vacation.
when you want a vacation, how you want a vacation.
Thank you.
That's how I feel about it.
And I want to go to Lake Lucerne.
You've earned it.
And I don't want to have some Gen Z brat all over my ass, you know?
You don't want someone who's like, you know, holding their phone up and TikTok in the whole thing or Instagramming the whole thing.
Like, you can do that.
Or telling me they want their job to have meaning.
The hell is that mean?
Meaning.
Don't even get me.
I know.
Don't.
don't even.
You know what I want?
I want for my kids to have a job that pays them.
Yeah.
That's the meaning.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
I'm not even going to get into this.
I'm going to get people in trouble.
That parenting thing is.
People in your family, meaning you?
Me.
Exactly.
That is a lot of work.
All right, Melman.
It is.
It is a lot of work.
All right.
I'll see you later.
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