The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright Part 1: Tom Brady & NFL on FOX, Luka a “Better Melo”? Bad Actors Online

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

Colin Cowherd is joined by 'First Things First' host Nick Wright to discuss Tom Brady's appearance on The Herd today and how he will fare as an NFL broadcaster at FOX (4:00). Luka Doncic and the Mavericks lost the NBA Finals to the Boston Celtics but will Luka ever be able to improve his defense and lead the Mavs to an NBA Championship (13:00)?  Finally, they discuss bad actors on the internet farming for engagement and why it’s degraded online discourse in both sports and life (25:00).. (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's just start talking about me and Tom Brady. Let's just start. You know what? Can we, I have a confession to make and then you do whatever you want to do. I did something wholly unprofessional today. The guy under the guise of complimenting and congratulating my friend, which is the moment Colin's show went to break. When I knew for a fact he was within arms distance.

Tom Brady and I assumed all of our bosses, I made the most opportunistic FaceTime call of my life. Which was a FaceTime to Colin, because I knew he was with Brady, and I'm like, this might be my best chance. Because if I'm being honest, you know,

you said you, you know, you had a few cameos in one of Brady's documents. I damn near deserve royalties for how often I was featured in saying, oh, the end is nigh, and then he'd win a championship. And so I was hoping to maybe be like, hi, Tom, we'd love to have you on the show sometime, but either way, glad you're a teammate. And Colin graciously answered the call while he was basking in the afterglow of 30

minutes with Tom, but I didn't get that chance. But now go ahead, Ned, I've made that confession. go ahead and say what you, you know, your day was, no. Well, it was funny because, you know, I've said before the only time, not that I got nervous, but when I was doing Barack Obama twice, I came in really prepared. Like, I, if he threw me a curveball, even political, like, I prepped for that for two days. Yeah. And with Brady, I didn't feel I had to, but I knew the bosses would be watching. So the day starts, and all of a sudden I'm seeing management all over the studio. I'm like, I got this.

Don't forget to do. And remember, and I'm like, I started laughing at him, I'm like, you guys come down here for one reason. You're firing me or I've got like somebody important. I've been doing this 30 years. I'm good. It's Tom Brady. Tommy talks.

We're all good. But it was funny to watch. You know, I mean, because Brady's important for the company. And, you know, they, it's a big move. He's Tom Brady. It's Fox. It's the NFL. You know, Greg Olson was terrific.

So you want to make sure he's good. I think they'll both. be great, but there's just a lot of things going on here. So it was kind of a funny, strangely tense day. But the great part about it is Tom, for all that hovers around him, is just about as normal as you're going to get. Jeans, tennis shoes, you know, just comes in. He's like, hey, it's great to meet you. Just Tom's like a nice guy. He really, you can, you know how you've met people for and you think more they must have good parents? Sure. Right? Like, you can tell he's just very, very, very, very grounded. I mean, everywhere Tom goes, people are reaching at him and he just, he's,

he just couldn't be more normal. Nice. So here's, so I, I, you know, my experience with the interviews obviously exponentially different than yours. You're doing it. I'm watching it. But my takeaway was different. And I think that you and I both have enough credibility with the audience built up to know, like, we're not shills for anybody. We're going to be honest about, what we think. But I found myself, edge of my seat is probably a touch too strong, but leaning in to every time he was

even coming close to breaking down how he thought about football. And it made me really excited for how he's going to call games. Because I, there is this school of thought. And Tom said it in a kind of kind way. But a lot of people are, there is a school of thought among some people that think the play-by-play and the color commentator is almost an overstated importance job because people are watching the game.

People want to see the game. And I understand that in a lot of instances. In a lot of instances, I think it doesn't matter who's calling the game. We're watching the game. But I found myself just in this interview being like, oh, I really. want to learn about how he processed and how his mind works when it comes to playing the quarterback position. And the stuff he was saying about how he would react to a different defensive look and the

pregame prep that it took all of that. And it made me super excited for to hear him in real time to watch a football game and get to see because this is, and now I'm going to be self-important, you're going to laugh at I think I really, I think I am an elite football watcher. And by that I mean, I think I am top 1% in the world at watching a game and noticing things. Like, oh, I think that guy might have just tweaked something. Oh, I think they misspotted all of it. And to be able to see watch a game that Tom's watching and commenting on,

and see how many times, like, what he said, like, oh, I was thinking something similar or I had that wrong. I'm really excited for it. Like, I am, I do think it is a massive, it is having, you know, we've had, we had Magic Johnson call NBA games, but it wasn't really his strength. Like having someone like that, and I'm going to add one other thing. I also think a uniqueness of it is so much. of his superpower was his processing.

So it's less about I was able to do it because, like, I'll use Terry. I know Terry doesn't call games. Anyone that's ever been in a room with Terry Bradshaw, it's like, oh, a lot of the reason you're Terry Bradshaw is because I don't know how old he is, but even at this age, you could kick everybody's ass in this room except for Howie Long. Like you are a big, strong. and you know, but so much of Tom is I outthought out prepared. So I, and I, that came across in the 30 minutes you spent with him.

I was worried you were going to take the interview into the first hour, first things first. I didn't think you were ever going to break. I was like, we might not be on the air today, boys. Yeah, no, it's like, I kind of feel like, this sounds weird, but every time I interview Tom, I feel it's a chapter. So I tried to stay today, because I'm going to interview him several more times. I tried to stay in his, I talked a lot about process today, about broadcasting number one receivers, offensive lines. So I wanted him to talk about process today.

As the season comes upon us, it'll be more about the game, the moment. But like today, today, all I thought about was, I want to, I want to enter. introduce Tom how he thinks to the audience. This is a process day. And he just tends to be the best processed athlete, have we, have we ever had. Yeah. So you know how you said you're a 1% football watcher? Yeah. So football is such a collaboration sport that it is hard. That's why excellent GMs can struggle on quarterbacks, first round wide receivers, first round tight ends. I mean, Have you ever noticed the position that rarely misses in the first round? It's guard center. Because if you have a weakness, you're protected. It's a strong unit. But a quarterback, a wide receiver, you're often doing your own thing, a corner. And so in football, even though I love the sport, it is hard to project how quarterbacks will work within the collaboration and the system. Are they smart enough? Are they coachable? Are they defable? Are they defecable? Are they defund?

offensive, insecure, are they confident, but not cocky? I think in basketball, though it's my second favorite sport to all footballs, I am pretty accurate on something, is that because it's an more independent sport, I really pay attention to personality and interviews and how you respond to questions. And a European player, just because the culture is different than a domestic player, It's just different. The way they're taught, the way they grow up, they drink wine, they smoke more often. You know, it's a different culture. They, they, they tend to come in speaking multiple languages, you know, the European Union. It's your kind of, it's a collective. Whereas in America, it's the South is different than the West is different than the Northeast. It's the French school system. There's a lot of, there's different. So I look at personalities. And I've been right on a lot of players very early. whereas I didn't buy Westbrook. I was very much,

don't buy into Mello as a winning player, or Derek Rose. And the avalanche of criticism comes down that you don't know the sport, you don't watch it. But I think personality matters more in basketball because the individual matters so much more. It's not as big a collective. The Celtics are very unique.

It's a collection more than it is a star. And this is where you and I disagree with, I think you can coach people out of virtually anything except indifference. And I believe he is such an offensive prodigy. He is indifferent to defense and it will never be great. Now, you say, well, well, well, Kobe became a very good defensive player. Kobe's idol was Michael Jordan, who is a great defensive player. So players that idolized Michael all played defense.

Most of them played the guys, the Kobe's. Michael played defense. That was part of his aura was he was a hard ass. Who is Luca? Who is his idol? I think he has much more in common with Mello that he is so gifted offensively. Mello was better than LeBron offensively initially. He was just more gifted.

Better shooter. Yeah, better score. Yeah, yeah, that I'm not sure that you'll ever convince Luca that defense matters. So here's where I'm going to push back. So Luca is on the record when he came into the league that he grew up idolizing LeBron. LeBron is who he modeled his game after and you see it. Now he then signed with Jordan Brand and all of a sudden he's an MJ acolyte. It's amazing how that works out.

But when Luca was unsullied by endorsement, he was a big LeBron guy. Now, Luke is never going to be the athlete Lebronist. Like I really, and by the way, nobody is. I encourage anyone, Heralabob Vulgaris, who now owns a talk about the Golden Life man, Guy was a professional gambler, greatest NBA better of all time, made maybe a billion. That's probably overstating him, but close to it in crypto from his gambling winnings, bought a Spanish soccer team, and now they've moved up multiple divisions. What a life.

But he also helped run the Mavs when they drafted Luca. Heralabab tweeted out a clip a few days ago of 25-year-old LeBron James, like a four-minute clip of his blocks and dunks and everything, like reminding everyone, like, guys, what this guy was at his peak athleticism. It was just, it was unfathomable, and we haven't seen it like it since. Yeah. LeBron is the only guarantee in American sports history. Let's just do basketball football.

That there is no question that if he has chosen football, he would have been a multiple-time pro-ball. Oh, yeah. No question. No question. Not even debatable. he would have been one of the best tight ends of all time. Let's stop debating it. 6-8-250, fast with great hands and vision.

And seemingly indestructible for 15, for 17 years. But, okay. Yeah. So there are obviously things LeBron could do that Luca never will be able to do because of the athleticism. But stylistically, they're very similar as far as, I'm going to have the ball in my hands. I am going to control an offense.

I will try to pick on people in a pick and roll. I will spoon feed players, open threes and lob dunks, like all of it. He's not going to be the defender of LeBron was. There was a five-year period with LeBron was one of the, every year was top five defensive player of the year voting, and I think twice or three times second place, he's not going to be that guy. My argument is he doesn't need to be. Can Luca be Steph Curry defensively, obviously?

Can he be Magic Johnson defensively? Obviously. Has he already shown improvement for where it was a few years ago? Yes. So I think that, so here's what I think about Luca. I think that his bad defensive moments are so glaring and obvious because he just not running down the court. he is just standing there, he's angry, he's, and I also think every game he walks a fine line between, I am going to get so enraged with every fan, every ref that I end up playing my best basketball,

and I am going to get so enraged with every fan, every ref that it takes me out of my game, and I'm like almost playing in protest. He's got to mature in that regard. but I the part of the Mello thing that I the reason I push back so much on that comp is is that Luca already has done more winning than Mello did Luca made the Mello made a conference finals once Luca did that in year four Mel Lucas already made an NBA finals and he is a willing passer of the ball and a guy who and a guy who has on it is a guy who has on it is people bring up Hardin because Hardin was a willing passer of the ball.

The Hardin, though, every single year of his career got worse in the playoffs. Luca, every year of his career, except for this one, his numbers have gotten better in the playoffs. So I just think that there was never a moment where Mello was credibly a consensus top three player. Luca is right now. And so I just, I disagree with you on Luke. Yeah.

And, by the way, I've said, I think Luca's a much better Carmelo Anthony. By the way, Michael was a better Kobe, not always much better, but better. Kobe had better range. I thought Kobe was a really clever passer when he decided to, a very good ball handler. Michael was a better Kobe. I think Luke is a much better Carmelo. But there are traits and indifference to certain things like being in shape and defense The being in shape thing he has to grow up on.

That part, that part, so here's the deal. I think that there is, I think it is very, very difficult for people who have succeeded at every step. I mean, this guy's playing in the second biggest league in the world at 16 and won MVP of it at 18. and won the championship at 18, not in some small league, in the second best basketball league in the world to the NBA. He then gets to the NBA wins rookie of the year and then succeed,

succeeds, carries a team to a conference finals. Last year they fail, but it feels more about the team was weird that he and Kyrie didn't gel. This year, they make it all the way to the finals. And yes, he was banged up, but he also knows he was a little out of gas. I think it is very hard for if anyone has a bad habit that they are succeeding despite. I don't think they ever kick it until that bad habit bites them. Yep, I've said before.

The only way you quit smoking is if your doctor says you're going to die. Right. And there's a lot of people who, I'm going to again use, we were using dark analogies. there are a lot of people listening who were, what I'm sure, what I would call very regular tipsy drivers. It was just, I, you know,

never, didn't call cabs, whatever he's like, oh, my buddies have a few drinks, drive home and did it hundreds of times and never were, and people were like, ah, you shouldn't drive, and only stopped because they got pulled over

and they got a DUI. Like there is, and again, that's a dark analogy, but the point is, if someone says to you, you've got to be in better shape, you've got to be in better shape. And you're like, oh, really? Because I keep averaging 35 points a game in the playoffs

and being first team all NBA. But this year, and this year, I know they made the finals, but he did seem out of gas at times. And so in order to be able to play 100 game seasons, which is what he's got to do, he does have to be in better shape. That part's fair. and he can't always be mad at the refs, that part.

But I just think the reason I thought the focus on the defense was overstated was that Mavs didn't lose this finals because of the defense. The Mavs, this craziest stat of the NBA season is the worst five-game stretch Boston had all year as far as points scored was the NBA. NBA finals. They didn't have another five-game stretch all year where they scored four points. And they kicked the Maverick's ass. And they killed them.

The Mavs didn't lose because of their defense. They lost because they couldn't score, which was because of Boston's defense. It wasn't that Dallas's defense was a problem. It was that Boston's defense was a plus for four of those five games and strangled the Mavs offense. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not. not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. So I'm going to throw this at you. There's so many bad actors on the internet. It's so bad. Sweet Christ, man. Can I tell you what happened before you even throw it at me? Because I don't think people know what happened. Because there's always been bad actors,

but it seems like out of nowhere, it has gotten way worse quickly. And I, it, so I have, I think, a very credible theory here. So remember how Elon, made it so you can get paid off your tweets. So I don't think people really paid a lot of attention to that because people were like, I'm not paying for that $8 a month checkmark, whatever.

So some of us a few months ago just got the checkmark. It's like you're a notable account. We want you to have one, whatever it is. So I didn't, I just got it. I got a notification a week ago. saying you earned $810 last month. Like, huh? So, and I just tweet clips from the show and my takes.

Same here. But because I got grandfathered into this program or whatever, I'm like its monetization is available. So I, I guess, if I give them my bank account info, which I don't know that I will do, but if I have $800 from my tweets in May. Okay, so why don't bring that up? That didn't used to be a thing.

It used to be you could grow a following and then maybe sell ads, whatever it is. But now it is direct deposit into your account based on interactions of your tweets. So now you have the worst actors in America who are incentivized to say the shittiest things or dishonest things or like the whole. Totally harmless version of it is, oh, man, people forget Peyton Pritchard is a problem, like saying things just to get dunked on. Like people, oh, people said Steph Curry can't shoot. But the worst version of it is, I am going to try to stoke racial tension in America through this video that will go viral because I'm literally going to make a thousand bucks off it.

So I think that's what's happened. That's not, yeah, that's not a theory. that's exactly what's happening. Yes. That that's not, listen, I'm not, you know me, I make fun of conspiracy theorists. I have a theory on conspiracy theories that as the world get, AI is just going to enhance this. We're going to get more and more conspiracy theories. Because, and there's been an explosion of them.

Why? Because the fluidity and the changes that technology are doing to our life. And people want answers. And so when people don't have answers, they lose their job, inflation. people are seeking stability and foundational truths, and they don't have answers. So conspiracy theories give people answers as their life gets more filled with anxiety. Psychologists have talked about this. So as technology is enhanced and dominates our society, you're going to get a more conspiracy-driven and science.

But this is not conspiracy theory. This is what's happening. No, this is just, yeah, this is what's happening is, as AI is going to put a lot of people out of work, social media is going to become a real income for a lot of people. I'll be as, you know, I make a massive TV income, radio income, volume income, draft kings. Like, I don't need social media. There's no value in it for me other than to promote my companies.

Right, exactly right. Right, right. So there's no, I don't even care about it. It doesn't matter to me. But for a lot of people that, you know, even successful people, they don't have a radio show, a TV show. They make six figures on social media. Colin, I thought about it.

If I could make a thousand bucks in a month by accident, right? Then I'm like, oh, that I was like, so just think, I was like what the average, the average income in this country is like around 50. I'm like, so then yeah, of course there are going to be people out there that are just going to all the and what what do we know gets interaction and reaction and reaction. And because I don't know if you were taking this to Caitlin and Angel. I don't know where you were taking this initially. But what I know, what we know will make waves on Twitter in particular is anything to

doing with racial tension or racial dis or in either direction. And I just, I see people tweeting. videos of clearly, like, obvious, like, skits, like old skits or scenes from an old, not Chappelle show, but something less famous, and presenting it as if this was a real life thing that happened, purely because idiots will believe it, people who aren't full-blown idiots will think, oh, I'm going to dunk on this person. Meanwhile, they're just like, I just made 40 bucks. I do 10 of these in a day and I make more money than I was going to make at my job. And it is just flooded.

They have flooded the zone with nonsense and bullshit. By the way, there are people in our industry who have credible jobs who are using YouTube to the same degree, making $30,000 on a YouTube clip talking about their sex life, politics, all sorts of stuff. So at some point, your soul can't, your foundational belief system can't be about the dollar sign. Like you have to care about, and I'm not lecturing. You folks do what you want to do. But here's where I was going. Yeah, sorry.

I took you. No, no, don't be sorry. This is, this is why I do a podcast. Is that there's so many bad actors on the internet that will just dunk on the end, they don't care. They got their money. When I hear people criticize Howard Stern, Howard makes $120 million a year at Sirius XM. Do you think he gives a shit that he doesn't have the water cooler currency? He's got a $70 to $90 million home on the beach. I've seen it. In Boca Raton, the highest, he's got the two highest real estate properties in the east,

the Hampton, Sag Harbor, and Boka. Howard owns arguably the nicest home in both. He doesn't give an F. And people are like, Howard doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And I think about this. Like, the NBA got the bag. They're going to get a, they're doing basically what the NFL did.

They're going to get a fourth network to arguably overpay for it. They don't care. The ratings are up to the. people who pay for the money. That's up to NBC ESPN. The owners in the league and the players don't give a shit. Don't watch it. They don't care.

So there were a lot of people highly invested in the idea that any company that pays even just lip service to the idea that, you know, black folks spend money to and gay folks spend money to that that business model will fucking ruin them and they even came up with a super unique original 150 IQ slogan go woke go broke meanwhile we're at zero broke we're at zero companies that previously were rolling that are now like goddamn you know what we put black lives matter on the court and now no one will put no nobody's going to games and they then try to twist themselves and knocks and act like that um oh they they're not doing it or oh it caught no it didn't there is i now again because i am not a bad faith actor i will acknowledge i do think there was a time

and I do think it hurt the ratings in multiple sports where people felt there was too much like we had overcorrected and there was too much whether you want to call it politics, social justice, anything in our sports and people got annoyed by it. I do think that happened. But it was presented as if it's going to be a death knell

when it was a paper cut. And it was the same folks that when Nike signed Kaepernick, we're like, oh, check out Nike's stock today. It's like, oh, can we get an update on that? Hey, can we get a good. Did Nike all of a sudden the last four years start flying magaflags or are they still pretty much as woke of a company as there is? I think they are.

I think they're doing just fine. And it is, and this is where the people making that. those arguments were either bad faith actors or morons. And I am, that one I'm comfortable with. The people making the argument of the NBA is killing big trouble. In big trouble. Like buddy,

you could, were the ratings for this specific finals down? Yeah. In the midst of it being down, did they get $75 billion? Did they triple their, TV deal. Was it was it extortion? No. In fact, you have you have company, you have major corporations who might end up making changes at the top of the company because they screwed up by not

getting the NBA. So it was always bad faith. It was just always bad faith actors that don't ever, that are very, very invested in the idea that everyone thinks like them. That's the, that is the, that's the, so I'm aware, like I, and I try to be self-aware of it, and I try to be, um, conscious of it. I'm aware that a lot of people who watch the TV show have very different politics than I do, which is why I think I keep it out of it. almost entirely. As I've said to you before, I don't think talking about race is talking politics.

So I will talk race. I don't talk any politics. When you and I are talking, even though I understand there are people listening that are very even politics than me, I feel like, you know what, you are opting into a Nick Wright, Colin Cowherd conversation.

I am going to respect that and give you my true authentic thoughts on everything and hope we can understand that even if we disagree, we can, you know, agree on other certain things. But I know that how I feel is not how the whole world feels. There is a, there is a segment of the population that is really invested in trying to convince people that the, that 80% of the country plus agrees with them and this tiny minority that doesn't somehow, oddly, weirdly, controls everything, controls all these major corporations, the sports leagues,

the media, everything. And it's like, no, I just think Target has, like, done the market research. It's like, hey, we're going to sell more T-shirts if people think were nice. Like, I don't think they're trying to do some social engineering. I think they're trying to sell as many things as possible. And so that's, yeah, that's my answer. Listen, even left-leaning, I would say, Saturday Night Live tends to lean more left than right. They've made fun of woke.

Bill Mars made fun of woke. Like, there are things that go too far is that, you know, my theory on America is that in the end, the more change you have in technology and the more change you have in the culture, the more people want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, macaroni and cheese and hang out with their dog. We seek simplicity as the world gets more complex. So I think to me, one of the things I think about constantly on my show is simplifying complicated things. Right. That's literally what I think about, you know, whatever you think about, I think about that constantly. Which is why, which is a very smart way to go about it. But so that's where, so I have, I hope, the self-awareness.

and the honesty to be able to be like, yeah, there are things that people that are in my political tribe, if you will, that they say or espouse that I'm like, yeah, I actually, I'm not with that. Like, it doesn't kill me, but I, you know, it's not where I would go. what I what I feel like fundamentally though most people most people are more

bothered by people that intentionally err on the side of mean than people that go out of their way to be nice even if the way they're going out of their way to be nice it's like okay that's a little much

you know what I mean like and and that's to me that's why so I that's why so much of the so much of the complaints about the NBA stuff was to me people telling on themselves where I'm like you're really are you you're writing on Twitter

you saw end racism on the baseline where there used to be a YouTube TV ad and now you're like I'm turning the game off like shut up Like if it was, if at half time of the game, you know, Jason Tatum came out and was like, now I want to, you know, give you a history lesson about this. That'd be one thing.

But I'm like, I just think you are, you are bothered by an idea that you can't quite explain and it pisses you off. You don't know why. And I think the smartest corporations and companies have been like, eh, that's actually just a loud contingent on the internet. And the majority of people are either support us

or like, eh, not my thing, but not enough for me to change the channel or not enough for me to drive to the store down the street when this one, you know, oh, they're flying a pride flag. Okay, well, I actually, they also have the cheapest diapers. So I just think I'm going to go there.

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