The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Cowboys A “Dak Injury” Away From Disaster, Winning Season For Bears? LIV Tour’s Top Golfers

Episode Date: August 23, 2025

Colin’s top takes of the week. First, he’s joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and Out” to talk about the potential for a disastrous season looming for the Dallas Cowboys (2:45), the potential expansion of the college football playoff to 24 teams (10:45) and their expected win total for Caleb Willams and the Chicago Bears in Ben Johnson’s first season as head coach (15:15). Then, he’s joined by LIV Tour professional golfer Cam Smith about the LIV Tour vs the PGA (27:00), and his thoughts on what makes golfers like Jon Rahm, Phil Mickelson and Rory McIlroy truly special (34:00). (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look at this cowboy thing we were talking about on the show. So John Middilkoff is going to be on FS1 all week. And one of the rants I did today was about Mike McCarthy. I think the cowboys are going to shit the bad. Week one, I think it's going to be a disastrous season. I don't like their defensive personnel. They've got two or three things that get in the way of winning. One, their division's gotten better. Two, their offensive line is really in flux, and they don't have elite running backs to begin with.

So it's going to be very Dak Prescott dependent, which is not good. I mean, he's not the kind of quarterback that it can carry a franchise. He needs help. No run game, O line, work and progress, and the defense was terrible last year. But if you go back and look at the game, he's not. at Mike McCarthy. And this happens all the time. It's a big brand and you run people out of town.

I mean, the Lakers have run through a lot of coaches. And a lot of those coaches have gotten good gigs. But Mike McCarthy went 12 and 5, 12 and 5, 12 and 5, and then Dakot hurt. He won more games that he lost with Cooper Rush. They had the second best offense in the league behind Josh Allen and the Bills in his tenure in Dallas. And I think if the cowboys are awful and I think they would. will be this year. I think Mike McCarthy is going to go from the Packers to the Cowboys. I think he's going to get another job in an offensive league. Am I not saying that? Well, why do you think

he wasn't a bigger candidate this offseason? Because I thought, you know, those three straight years of 12 wins, what he did last year, I mean, most, an average to below average coach last year with DAC being injured, they end up winning two or three games. But they went seven and 10 and Cooper Rush was good. There's a branding issue with Mike, right? Kind of bigger guy, kind of goofy guy. When he got fired from the Packers, it felt like his relationship with Aaron had deteriorated. Aaron's kind of pivoted and is like a supporter of him now. Sometimes a year away with coaches will do him well.

You could argue, I mean, the Giants are going to match up really well against the Cowboys, right? Because they have a really good defensive line. And if that offensive line. Well, they have a dominant defense. They have second best D lines arguably in the son. So, yeah. I mean, it could, it's really, I thought it was a little premature a couple years ago, but the Al Davis comps.

I mean, the Al Davis thing, it got ugly because he started hiring coaches that had no business being the head coach. And that's what Brian Schott-Nimer feels like right now. And what's going on there? I mean, if they're an injury or two away from being a disaster. And unlike Mike McCarthy that knows what he's doing, who's to say that it couldn't just unravel? I mean, what if Dak rolled an ankle?

All of a sudden, you're like, oh, my God, here we go. And Brian's acting tough. Here's the other thing. Like with Al Davis, the players know that, Jerry's in charge. So it's like, why am I going to listen to Brian? And that Mike Lombardi talked about this forever, once everyone realized, like, the coach doesn't matter here.

Just go to Al. You know, like, you do that. You know how he's the boss. You know McVeigh's the boss or Kyle's the boss. Obviously, they don't sign the checks, but the owners deal with, even Jimmy Haslam was like, Miles Garrett was like, I want to trade. He's like, deal with the GM. Talk to him.

He's in charge of football. That is not the way it works with the Cowboys. And when you get one thing, Mike had a pelt on the wall, right? had coached Aaron Rogers, had won a Super Bowl. You're like, the Brian Schottonheimer guy, some of these young coaches had never heard of his dad. So it's not like he's this famous coach's dad. I mean, he is to me and you. But if you're 22 years old, you don't remember Marty Schottenheimer coaching the Browns, right?

Or coaching the Chargers. And so some of his credibility with that name doesn't resonate like it does for an older person. Or even Jerry, who I've heard Jerry say part of the reason he loved, I think he thought maybe I'm getting a Kyle Shanahan or a McVeigh, you know, from a football family. I think that's what he's thinking. It's like, Jerry, that's, it ain't quite the same. No, I think, I was talking to Matt Mosley on one of my pods, and he said, like, Jerry doesn't respect coaches.

And it's very, there's a very clear line. He hires coaches who will be indebted to him. I like Jason Garrett. Didn't think he was great, thought he was good. Jason Garrett would not have gotten another head coaching job. Mike McCarthy was on the beach. Chan Daly, Jan Galey was not a hot prospect. nobody was even offering a top OC job to Brian Schottenheimer.

The coaches, Jerry doesn't respect the coaching position, which is really weird considering Jerry usually has a pretty good sense of valuations, of properties. He's a very, very good businessman. And I think Jerry overvalues his football IQ and feels like, by and large, we could win 12 games with Mike McCarthy. I can win 10 to 11 games if DAC comes back healthy. It's just remarkable to me that in the most important sport for coaching football, where the league has gotten much more sophisticated and intelligent with its offensive coaching,

Jerry's going the other way, which is coaches don't matter. It's really remarkable to me. Everybody, I mean, now, maybe it's this. He looks at Nick Seriani and thinks, they won a Super Bowl with Nick Seriani. Maybe he looks in his own division and says that. I mean, Seriani, to me, is a bit of an outlier where I understand Dan Campbell, who I wasn't initially a fan of. I don't really get Seriani still, but it works.

He's got Howie Roseman. I mean, he's got a guy that's going to. be probably a first bout hall famer one day as a general manager. I think Jerry is just, he had an opportunity. Sean Payton worked for him. Dan Campbell played for him. You could argue a couple years ago,

Dan Quinn, who was this rising star, if you're going to get rid of Mike McCarthy, just fire him then and hire Dan Quinn. I think a mistake he made is two years ago when Mike lost to the Packers and everyone freaked out and he got his ass kicked, he'd let him coach on that year where his contract ran out.

He probably should have just given Mike like a three-year contract extension after that year. Wouldn't it had to be crazy money. But Jerry, prideful, wasn't going to do that after they lost. And now he's in a position where Brian shot in Imer's his head coach. I'm not as down on the Cowboys roster of being some joke like two, three win team. But the way they're built, I mean, they are an injury to a way. And if the coach is over his head, this is a sport where it's like, it can get ugly and it can get ugly fast.

And if Dak were to get injured and he has a history now, who's to say they can't end up like a four-win team. be the last place in that division. If the Giants just, the quarterback play stabilized a little bit and their defense is solid. We know Washington, the Eagles are good. Well, I think you nailed it. I think the New York Giants are, say what you want about the Giants. That defensive line, now, again, Philadelphia's O line is good enough to keep it at bay. I think the Giants D line could overwhelm the Cowboys. I think Abdul Carter, Thebado on the other side, Dexter Lawrence. I'm trying to think defensive lines I like more than the New York Giants. There's not a lot of them.

There are some individual players that are great. I think the Rams defensive line is really, really good in getting better. Philadelphia is obviously. But I, you know, there's some teams in this league in the Giants are one of those teams. I actually think they're a quarterback away. I think if you gave them the right quarterback, you'd look up in the Giants. They wouldn't be flashy if Malik neighbors could stay healthy. They could actually win 11 games.

That's why, you know, Dable, I think, it works a little bit with this franchise because he is good at taking average B quarterbacks and making them a half grade higher. But I don't know. I just, I, history repeats itself. And I think we're going into a really dark cowboy stage. I just heard a story yesterday from a very good network source that there is a lot of momentum to have like a 24 or 28 team. playoff. And my loyalty has always been to more big games. And you just can't get me worked up. Auburn, Alabama, it's great, but it's regional. And the highest rated game last year, I think it was Texas, Georgia. That's not a rivalry. It wasn't Texas, Oklahoma. So I don't, I'm not,

when I heard everybody say, well, you're going to kill the rivalries. Listen, if you're a Michigan fan in Ohio State, did that game feel smaller last year? to you when Michigan upstead Ohio State. It didn't feel smaller to me. You know, so, I mean, the reality is when the Rams play the Niners, it's intense. They could play three times a year. Years ago when the Steelers and Ravens and Ray Lewis was around and so was Big Ben, they play one year three times.

The third game felt bigger than the first two because it was a playoff game. So there's just certain things in 2025 I can't get worked up over. somebody having pot in their car, same-sex marriage, NCAA coming down on payments to players or any kind of scandal. Like, we've just graduated to just understanding the world we live in. I said it today, unless you're like a cop from Reno 911, you got a roach in your car. Nobody cares. That mattered in the 70s.

And I just, if you can buy high school players, I don't give two shits. about somebody with an iPhone in the crowd. I don't care if you have 40 of them. I don't care. I do think the 24-28 team college football playoff, that's where I might get a little worked up. You know, we saw the 12th team. That first round was a blowout. You know, there have been arguments about 16, 24.

And again, I love football as much as the next guy. But does that feel a little extreme? And we get a lot of average to below-average teams in the dance in that situation. It's been your argument for March Madden. forever. We always scream over first in, last out, or whatever. Those teams never matter, right? Who are your one and two seats? They usually determine the tournament. So I think you'd have to make it half the size of March Madness because football is a sport of attrition. So the little guy, it has no chance in a 2018 tournament to ever win like a third straight game against the bigger,

deeper roster. I think, but I've said, I think the perfect number is about 16. I wouldn't be bothered by 20. I think if you get to 28, you'd have to give the top like four seeds. You know, I don't want, I don't want Georgia playing Liberty. I'm just not interested in that at all. I mean, Notre Dame played Indiana, and that was kind of embarrassing for the Hoosiers, I thought. It was very, I mean, Boise State, Penn State had a guy drafted in the top 10 at running back, and he had no chance. You know why? Because the offensive lineman had no chance to block the Penn State guys. And that's always going to be the big problem. You get a 2018 team playoff. But here's the other thing. It's like, it's one thing at the fourth or fifth team from

the Big Ten and the SEC get in. But when you're taking the third and fourth team from the Big 12 and the ACC, that's when it could get really ugly. And that's, we don't need to see those teams play. Now, I get, it's all about television ratings and football. I was thinking today, watching Sunday night football with Caleb Williams, what do you think the first 30 minutes of that football game did? I mean, it just had to blow everything out of the water on Sunday night. on Fox, right? So the advantage, I never argue against more of these games. I completely

understand or argue against the people that want more football in terms of working at the networks or part of the revenue generation because it's only going to bring in more eyeballs. It's like, listen, I hate the double header on Monday night. I think a huge part of playing Monday night

football or Sunday night football is getting the solo game, but their argument is you put the double header, it accumulates millions upon millions of more people watching football. And that's the business, Roger and ESPN or Fox or whoever's in. But sometimes the product does get worse when I get a doubleheader on Monday night. I don't know who's asking for it besides we're just going to get more people.

We can sell more ads and make more money. Okay, I want to play a game. I'm going to go through the bearer schedule because I did this flying back Boston to L.A. yesterday and I was surprised at what I landed at. Okay, I'm going to give you the game and just your kind of gut instinct, win or lose for the Bears.

Minnesota Vikings come to Chicago on September 8th. Brian Flores against Caleb Williams. Win or a loss? Win. Okay, you have a win. Bears then go to Detroit in one of the louder environments

against Dan Campbell and two new coordinators. Loss. Okay. They get a host of Dallas Cowboys and Brian Schottenheimer. Win. I think that's one of my favorite wins. Then they go on the road to face Pete Carroll,

Aston, Jenny, Brock Bowers, and the Raiders. That's a tough game going to be loud. Seattle's going to have a fast start. Raiders. Oh, Pete, oh, never mind. Win, win. Okay, so you have a win. win. I think it's a really good game. Bears then go to the commanders.

Side of the crime last year, right? The Hail Mary. It's a late NBC level game. It's a 515 start, so that's a big Washington at home, late game. I'll go L. That's what I did. Okay. Saints go to Chicago. Is that a W? Win. Win. Bears at the Ravens, Yes. Bears at the Bengals. Win. I think the Bengals could just be not as good as people think. Okay. Giants at the Bears. That's one of those sneaky tough matchups where I think most fans would give the Bears a W. I could see an upset city. They're going to get upset where they might start feeling themselves, you know?

Okay. You give them an L. Okay. This is getting interesting. Now the Bears are at the Vikings. L. Okay. Steelers at the Bears. Win for the Bears. Okay. Bears at the Eagles, probably a loss.

Yes. Bears at the Packers. They've beat them once in like 30 years, right? Yeah. Going out. Loss. Okay, now get near the end, and we'll see what this means. Browns at the Bears, that's probably a W.

Yes. Packers at Chicago now. I'll go split here. Win. Bears at Niners. win for the Niners, lost for the Bears. And finally, Lions at the Bears. Win.

Okay. What do you think their record is? What have you predicted? Nine and eight or ten and seven? Nine and eight. I got to eight and nine. And so I went through it last night and I said, instead of predicting, I'm going to go every win.

And I was like you, they're going to split with Green Bay. I think I had them losing on the road. I think I had them like losing to a giant's. I thought the commanders was a loss. So here's my thing is they're a nine and eight football team and they're out of the playoffs. And my question to you is, will you deem that a success at nine and eight if Ben Johnson and Caleb cut the sacks in half? He does make mistakes.

He ad-libs. But they're a nine and eight football team. and Caleb looks like a top 12 quarterback, maybe number 12. Do you think it's a successful season? 1,000 percent. They just fired the entire coaching staff. They drafted 10th overall. They have been losing for years straight, 9 and 8 in that division.

Even if you missed the playoffs, which I would think the last couple of years you've had a decent chance in the NFC. It's a last weekend determination. That means you play important football the entire season. that is one million percent a win. Okay, I don't think people in Chicago agree, but I agree with you. I got to eight and nine, and I was like, wow, and I feel pretty good about it. You won the games at home, you should win. I would say this, eight and nine and nine and eight might be the difference of a fumble,

bouncing your way or bouncing in someone else's arms, so it really might not be that big of a difference over the course of a season. But that number, it feels pretty big when you say it out loud. I do think going over 500. I also think 8 and 9 with the 17 games is kind of the old 7 and 9. Like 7 and 9, a lot of people got fired, 7 and 9. And 8 and 8 was actually much more respectable. It was like, oh, 500.

They were solid football team. Or 7 and 9 felt like, oh, that kind of sucked. Even though, again, it might have been one tipped ball that landed in another guy's hand of pick 6. But I do think going 9 and 8 is 100% of success. where 8 and 9, I think people would be a little, just because the hype on Ben Johnson. I mean, let's face it, he's considered immediately

the next Shanahan, McVeigh, Kevin O'Connell. Like, he's very highly regarded by fans and football circles. I mean, he's just impressive. I've been impressed. He's not just some pushover. He's kind of a hard ass, and he even talks. Like, I've been hard on Caleb, and he hasn't liked it all. I was like, I kind of respect that.

You know, he's been very, I mean, you're back there seeing his local press conferences. He's pretty candid about, like, it's not, he's not running some, it's a pretty tight ship, I would say. He's got some Dan Campbell qualities, which I did not expect from an offensive guy. The rivalries, the marching bans, the upsets. All right, folks, college football's here. It's back. If you think you know the game, put your college football knowledge to the test with Draft King Sportsbook, big payouts, live betting, rivalry week odds boosts. so much more. Draft King Sportsbook has everything you need to stand on the action. Texas, Ohio State. That's interesting. So whether you're betting on your go-to team or making some

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the Live Tour is more global than the PGA tour, which I like. I think golf's an individual sport. As somebody born in Australia, and now live is global, so it fits. But how did you view the PGA when you were 14, 50, did you view the PGA, or would you have been happy being Australia's, you were first or second best golfer? Like, did you immediately at eight years old look at Amering and say, that's where I'm going to

play? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that was, you know, growing up, I'm watching guys like Jason Day and Adam Scott and Tiger, of course. That's where I wanted to be. But that was because all the best players were playing there and it was really the only place you could play. Yeah, so absolutely, I wanted to be in the US, play on the PGA tour and, you know, be the best golfer I could be. But like I mentioned, it was the only option at that point. Who is the first American golf star in an event you played with and what was the experience like?

Were you nervous? Was it like, oh, I've watched him on TV for years. Go to your first event that you played with a star. Jeez, I can't even remember. Oh, geez. I think one of my first PGA tour events was maybe the Pebble Beach Pro Am. I can't remember who I played with. you know I knew Jason a fair bit by then he was probably you know Jason Day yeah Jason

day he was probably the first guy that I spent a fair bit of time around and went wow this guy is so much better than me I've got so much work to them but I was I was probably only 21 22 years old and he was at kind of the peak of his career he was playing some amazing golf when I come on tour um yeah Yeah, but he was probably the first guy that I really got kind of starstruck around. And then, you know, as time went on, you play with different guys and, you know, you've grown up your whole life watching him. Yeah, but Jason was definitely the first guy. I was like, holy shit, I'm so bad at golf.

Well, I mean, I always tell my kids life's about reaction, not action. So you obviously, you know, you have to kind of go home and not. soul can kind of figure it out. Are there courses for you, you know, as you travel around the world, and I've asked live players this before, I'm just now becoming addicted to golf. Is there a country, I know, it's tormenting. Is there, is there a country that you look at and think is underrated, that you look at the courses and you look at the young players? Is there a place in this globe that maybe is fairly new to you and you think it has an incredibly promising future in the sport?

I would say, I would say Asia. You know, Asia is a continent. I don't think there's one kind of country that really stands out. You know, every golf course that we've gone to in Asia has been phenomenal. That's right. That's what I hear. Yeah, not only the design and stuff like that, but just, their practice facilities,

you know, they're so excited as well to have you there. It's such a cool place, but I would say, I would say for sure in the next, you know, 10, 20 years, that's the place I'd look to to,

where I think the most good golf is going to come out of, you know, there's a fair few in Australia as well. South Africa, we're going on there next year. I'm looking forward to getting there. You know, there are places where,

Good golfers have come kind of regularly, but I think we'll see the biggest influx in Asia for sure. I'm going to give you a golfer, and you give me a sentence as if I've never seen him play. I've never seen him play, and I want you to describe their greatness. John Ron. Oh, he's incredible. It feels like when you're playing against him, when you're up near the lead, when you're in contention with him, it feels like you have to do everything perfect to beat him. That's drive the ball, chip the ball, you know, approach everything.

It feels like he doesn't let up. He doesn't miss a shot. He's so consistent. You know, like out here he's had, I think every start he's had like a top 10, you know, which is a crazy thing. People might not think that that's hard, but it's hard. I would say it's just incredibly consistent, persistent. as well, like doesn't let up.

And he's, and he's a fighter too. You know, when he's, when he's on his heels, you know, more often than not, he comes out on top. An older guy, but one of my favorite players ever, Phil Mickelson. I've never seen him play. Describe Phil Mickelson. Um,

a crazy golfer, to be honest. I've played with Phil a lot, particularly the last, you know, five or six years. I've played with him when he stripes the ball, hits everything perfect, does all the right stuff. And I've played with him where he hits it offline, he sees miraculous shots and gets up and down and kind of keeps the momentum going.

He's definitely a momentum guy. Once he gets on a string of birdies, it seems like he's not going to stop. But a completely different golfer to John Rahm in that. Yeah, he, kind of hits it everywhere and like gets it done. He's the great chef that spills a few things,

but he's still great. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Rory McElroy. Rory's the most impressive driver of the golf ball I've ever seen. I don't think I'll ever see. I don't think anyone could ever be better than him off the tea. Again,

right stuff. It's it in the right places. A very, a very, he can be very dominant when he's, when he's on, I feel like he's, he's very, very tough to be. You know, Bryson DeShambo is, he looks like a football player and he's got kind of a crazy personality. I didn't like him when he initially came on the tour.

I thought he was obnoxious. And then something happened. And two years later, I, you know, I was always a Brooks Kepka guy. And now I love them both. And reportedly, they've mended fences, which makes me happy because I think they're really great. That's what I've heard. So first of all, can you confirm that they now speak? They're okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, they're okay.

Okay, they're okay. Okay, Cam's reporting that. But is Bryson intimidating just because of a sheer stature and size when you golf with them? What is it like to golf with him? Yeah, he can be intimidating. Again, he can get the driver going as well. For me, I would say I'm a kind of average kind of length guy. I don't hit the ball too short.

I don't hit it too far. He can just overpower golf courses like no one else can. And it can be quite intimidating. But I don't think there's a golf course he can play that necessarily I can't play, if that makes sense. Sure. But yeah, he can get that driver going. It's pretty crazy.

You know, sometimes he's, you know, 70, 80, 90 yards ahead of you. And it's pretty demoralized things. The volume. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.

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help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer street or Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be?

I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to futas to scheduling, Sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turn, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know, I love you, dog.

You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.